According to this article, she died New Years morning in Johhanesburg, South Africa, which is 7 hours later than U.S. Eastern Time. She was on a list in 2008,...
I guess it depends on what time it was in the eastern time zone. If she died at or before 11:59 p.m. December 31, 2008, it should count as a 2008 hit. If she...
What an ironic end to an otherwise uninspiring team I submitted under "Sweeney Todd's Pie Filling". I had her on my 2008 list. It won't make one iota of...
I had created a yahoo news alert with her name. This is the earliest time stamped reference there was reporting her passing: 84.Obituaries in the news The...
That may be absolutely true so long as she died after midnight local time in South Africa, which would have been 5:00 pm EST on December 31, 2008. Since the AP...
That pretty well settles it. She is the 1st stiff on 2009. Too bad, because I was looking forward to seeing how this would be dealt with. If no definite time...
"Hearse Race" that's a good one! Haven't heard it before. I think someone with a lot of gall should contact Suzman's daughter, who was with her mother when...
If you are only referring to this game, then it appears as though Helen was the last death of 2008 (judged by EST) and Pell may be the first death of 2009...
The Johannesburg 'On-Line' press quotes her daughter as saying her mother died Thursday morning. I don't know where the AP got their information. Here's the...
The local paper is saying she passed away early Thursday Morning, however, from my understanding is that the rules for this game is what time it is on the...
I agree, since Johannesburg is 7 hours later that E.S.T. the time of death is crucial. If she died prior to 7AM local time then she's the last stiff of the...
I have to agree with rigmort. The time of death rule is not just a technicality.  In theory, say Suzman died at 2:00 a.m. Jo'burg time, which was 7 pm...
All I'm going to say is it's a damn shame that I didn't play this year. I probably would have kept MOST of my roster intact... including Pell; so I just lost...
I was going to screw with everyone's head on this point, but unfortunately for me: (a) South Africa doesn't have daylight savings (b) EST in Australia is...
I suppose an interjection is needed here... The time zone in which a person dies will be the basis for the official TOD. Obituaries from South Africa claim Ms....
... Thanks John. You have to keep an eye on those sneaky South Africans. They are notorious for trying to die in different time zones just to become known as...
I am a bit confused John. Â First of all I don't care about the outcome as my team is not in the money. Â However, are you saying that anyone who dies on...
But if they are already dead before you submit your roster, would it not be considered to be an ineligible pick? I would say this is the downside to waiting...
Under your theory then Helen Suzman, and anyone else like her never counts because for the 2008 game she would be deemed to have died in 2009 and for the 2009...
In the Start & End Date portion of the rules it states "the game begins at 12:00 a.m. (EST) 1 January. The game ends 11:59 p.m.(EST) Â 31 December."Â Did the...
The applicable rules are: 1 - eligibility - They must be alive as of the start of the game. 2 - Start and End of the game - You Bet Their Life 2008 begins...
I know I am responding to my own post. I can only conclude that at least one team had Helen Suzman in the 2009 game, otherwise no one would have noticed a...
OK. First, Helen Suzman died on 01/01/09. Sure, the ball hadn't dropped in Times Square, but the South Africans get to fire off their champagne corks a few...
Thanks for clearing that up John. That sure sounds like the right result. Are we still looking for our first 2009 hit or did someone have the esteemed Senator...
Don't forget to move people from your taxi list to active when someone dies. I Lost 15 points bye not moving George Carlin up in 08. He would have put me...
I guess we now have the Helen Suzman rule on time of death. At least it has been clarified and we can hopefully all live with it. So for any foreign...
...a real tragedy to kick off the new year. http://sugarmob.com/2009/01/04/giselle-salandy-21/ ________________________________ Now with a new friend-happy...
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