The conflict was between Churchill and Halifax, not Chamberlain who has
gone by then. It was a pretty close shave because Churchill went against
traditional english policy by fighting GE at the expense of economic
bancruptcy. Which they were until helped by the US. Halifax wanted to
start 'normal, traditional' peace talks Chruchill wanted what in effect
the people although perhaps not the political class wanted: to fight
until Hitler was defeated. He succeeded in carrying the country and
parliament with him. But it was not a sure thing.
Not sure how such peace talks would've panned out as I can't quite see
AH giving all that much back. Psychologically they would've been
disastrous for England's further prosecution of the war if they'd broken
down imo.
Modern english - while having plenty of 'german' words - is actually
bastardized french, not german. Of course, AH considered the English
mostly an arian race.
>>> Håkon Fløystad <hakon.floystad@...> 14.01.2009 00:39 >>>
> what would have happened if Germany and Italy
> had stopped there and simply told Churchill "we are done...we
> will fortify our holdings, and if you want to negotiate a
> peace with us, we would be willing to turn over Belgium and
> Netherlands to their governments, Norway to its government,
> and return all of France but the Alsace-Lorraine to France in
> return for a peace with England
It is my impression that this is exactly what Hitler tried to do
directly after France, probably even before France atually fell. I also
seem to recall about this causing a divide within the British
governement, ending with Churchill replacing Chamberlain as prime
minister and holding his famous "we shall fight them on the beaches"
speech. Iirc, it was a rather close call at the time. It's certainly my
impression that the Hitler would be agree to "liberate" most of the
conquered countries to achieve this. In Mein Kampf, he talks of settling
the account with France, usually interprted as removing them as a
military threat, but (except from Alsace/Lorraine of course), he does
not have territorial claims there. Presumably, he considered eastern
Europe and Russia to the Urals to be enough.
Certainly, Hitler had also declared in Mein Kampf that the CW was in
fact his most favoured ally vs Bolshevism, which is kind of obvous if
you look at where the anglo saxons come from, and see that in light of
his racially oriented world view. (Modern English is still considered a
dialect of lowland German by some linguists, together with Saxish,
Flemish and Dutch).
After that point, I don't think it was really realistic again, at least
not without giving up more or less every gain thay had main after
DOW-ing on Poland. England had battled the French for 20 year, and I
think they were prepared to do the same with the Germans, if they had
to.
I have trouble seeing that anything short of crushing Russia or
successfully blockading the CW food supply would shatter the British
morale more than it was shattered when France fell.
Cheers
Hakon