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Re: Steers

--- In whitewall@yahoogroups.com, "Roderick and Ellen Robertson"
<rjremr@s...> wrote:

> Steer = young castrated bull destined to be turned into meat early
on (or an
[etc...]

Ho hum, interesting. Thanks. Used to be veggy, so all this sort of
thing was Baaaad, then I lived in Brazil where this sort of thing
was Goooood (ooh, the beef! [Licks chops]).

So, you might well raise steers specifically for sacrifice; an Uroxi
who does so on a large scale, going around buying them up, say,
could well acquire the name "Steer", with the (hilarious)
consequences prophecied on this list. So, ya boo sucks to the
mockers, not that I knew any better. But, such activities are
feasible.

> Ballocks = Balls! An exclamation of dismay.
Or German football player of Turkish ancestry (almost) - you really
use an "a" not an "o"? The things you learn.

> A cattle herd will produce 50-50 cows and bull-calves (unless you
have some
> funky magic working!).

Heh heh, bet you it's slightly skewed towards females. As it is in
humans. For evolutionary reasons you see...

> built back up to strength. There may be attempts by the tribes
bordering
> Prax to steal herd animals to use as a substitue. Catte raiding
into Tarsh
> is always a possibility.

Q: are there abundant cactuses and palm trees in Prax? In NE Brazil,
these are the key to cattle surviving droughts.

So, in my Whitewall (should I ever play it), some time before the
Bat, a load of Uroxi of a placid, bovine nature pitch up, with a
load of Uraldan priestesses and a load of cows. How? Well, that's
one of the mysteries of life. probably via some big juju trip
through the Storm Realm. Why? Well, they don't tell anyone, and
everyone is upset when they can't eat the cows (of whatever of the
genders) and when the Uroxi don't fight. Potentially, the Uroxi all
castrate themselves (or eachother?) just as the Bat rumours start,
in some massive ceremony, adding to the fun (any National Geographic
photographers present having a field day) and the wonder, and to
justify the name oh-so-mocked in this forum. Then they persuade the
bat to come to them (they also make themselves deaf, somehow), to
eat the big fourlegged animals, the Uroxi chop at the tongues and
so on, to keep the bat busy, while Broyan (that spelling is sooo
Monty Python - intentional?) goes BatBoarding a la Legolas. There.




Sat May 29, 2004 7:14 pm

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... You use them for heavy hauling. They're called Oxen, then. Steer = young castrated bull destined to be turned into meat early on (or an ox that's too young...
Roderick and Ellen Ro...
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May 29, 2004
5:18 pm

... on (or an [etc...] Ho hum, interesting. Thanks. Used to be veggy, so all this sort of thing was Baaaad, then I lived in Brazil where this sort of thing was...
Sam Elliot
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May 29, 2004
7:15 pm

... Steer is an American word, in England it would be "bullock". Now, we have a unit in the Dragon Pass game which is called something Bullocks, so if they can...
Simon Phipp
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May 29, 2004
8:01 pm

... similarly. By the way, from cowboy movies, I knew that a steer was some kind ... name "Steer" ... Well I'm glad you said that. The word, to me, just...
Sam Elliot
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May 29, 2004
8:24 pm

... I did, but the idea came in just as I was trying to do ten things at once, one of which was packing to go away for the weekend. So let me answer now - love...
Jane Williams
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May 31, 2004
3:02 pm

... at once, ... answer now - ... it's about ... Actually pigeons make even more sense since they'd be naturally drawn to a site like WW to nest and would need...
Oliver D. Bernuetz
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May 31, 2004
5:16 pm

... Nice idea. And introduces the use of homing pigeons for sending messages back to Whitewall (don't eat them!). Do they nest in holes in a cliff somewhere,...
Jane Williams
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May 31, 2004
5:32 pm

... Somehow message pigeons don't seem Orlanthi; Rinliddi, maybe, since they are a Birdy culture, but Orlanthi would probably send a message on the wind or via...
Roderick and Ellen Ro...
rjremr1
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May 31, 2004
6:24 pm

... Could be. Maybe the Elmali, though....? ... Yep! Or some more colourful bird than a pigeon? Canaries? Some parrot-like thing, that can "speak"? ... And...
Jane Williams
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May 31, 2004
6:52 pm

I WAS going to mention the Lunars using pigeons in April but thought all I'd get would be hoots of derision (or is that owls?). Pigeons are flying rats which...
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May 31, 2004
6:33 pm

Priest of the Homing Pigeon Cult, with their ceremonial flat cloth caps and Blood sausage breakfasts... Perhaps it's a British thing. Steve [Non-text portions...
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May 31, 2004
6:51 pm

... drawn ... I think gulls. The connection with the sea is an obvious reason. They could be described as birds with a raucous cry rather than "gulls", so...
Sam Elliot
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May 31, 2004
7:09 pm

... Well, we could always have the "War of Wings" as sub-plot of the general mayhem - Gulls and some hawks and ravens good, Eagles and pigeons (and bats) ...
Roderick and Ellen Ro...
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May 31, 2004
7:25 pm

... Yes, but Thunderous aspect only. Of the animals listed in Storm Tribe as suitable for Divine Companions (page 27) , we get: Elmal: Hawk Eurmal: Raven...
Roderick and Ellen Ro...
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May 31, 2004
7:16 pm

IMO using pigeons could make the settlement more vulnerable to attack from things like disease. A Malia cultist could have a field day. ... From: Roderick and...
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Jun 1, 2004
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... Right, that decides it! The pigeons are being used by the Bad Guys. Now, who are the Bad Guys? :) (I know what *my* knee-jerk assumption is, but we all...
Jane Williams
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Jun 1, 2004
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... biased.) Hey come on have you ever been in a chicken coop? Chickens are pretty disgusting too it's just that they don't live in such close proximity to...
Oliver D. Bernuetz
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Jun 1, 2004
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... They certainly are. And stupid. Just as bad as pigeons. Only they don't fly, so can't spread disease as far. ... Since "pigeon" and "dove" are AFAIK two...
Jane Williams
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Jun 1, 2004
4:18 pm

personally I've not experienced the whole Pigeon Disease Master thing :) but... there is an old Polish folk tale in which a fort was attacked by tempting its...
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Jun 1, 2004
3:14 pm

... to infect a town Spanish flu probably arose in chickens. SARS too (?). They are routinely pumped full of tetracycline to prevent bacterial diseases. When I...
Sam Elliot
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Jun 1, 2004
4:11 pm

... Except that in Glorantha disease is caused by disease spirits not infections as in the RW. Unless you're arguing that pigeons *are* disease spirits... -- ...
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Jun 1, 2004
5:03 pm

... There's a very good article on disease in Glorantha in Lords of Terror. It talks about "countless minute disease spirits" for infectious diseases. (It also...
Jane Williams
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Jun 1, 2004
5:12 pm

Jane: Doves, symbol of peace, being *used* by Malia to spread disease? And when they do, we call them pigeons. - Nice irony but, personally, I prefer to shy...
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morkhelek2000
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Jun 2, 2004
8:14 am

... The parallel is the pigs in the Balazar citadels. ... references to "Chicken Run" we can get in there? (Or is this getting too silly?) Most definitely....
Sam Elliot
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May 31, 2004
7:35 pm

... For "generic" sacrifices a steer might do fine, but remember, the better the animal, the bigger boost it gives your ritual, so a Pure-color Bull or a Cow ...
Roderick and Ellen Ro...
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May 29, 2004
9:08 pm

... a ... they ... named ... kind ... Well, it is a perfectly good Anglo-Saxon word, rather than a pure Americanism. It's probably used in some regional accent...
Roderick and Ellen Ro...
rjremr1
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May 29, 2004
9:12 pm

... I don't think oxen have actually been used in Britain for a long time. When armoured cavelry dropped out of use in the 17th Century the heavy horses became...
donald@...
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May 30, 2004
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... The dictionary I've got describes a steer as an ox or bullock under four years old so that distinction appears in English as well. Both are described as...
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