Heya!

   New England was proud to host the 2002 Northeast Regional Qualifier
   and to crown Peter Bakija as champion.  We're coming back for more!

   On Saturday, February 22 at TotalCon in Mansfield, MA, Methuselahs
   we're hosting the 2003 Northeast Regional Qualifier.  The top 10
   finishers will earn the right to compete at the 2003 North American
   Championships at GenCon.


   The event:

   Return to Gehenna: Northeast Regional Qualifier
   Saturday, February 22
   12pm - midnight
   Standard Constructed Deck Tournament
   3 rounds plus final round
   2 hours per round (including finals)
   Top 10 finishers qualify for the 2003 NAC
   $3.00 event ticket required ($2.50 if purchased in advance)
   (Note that you must also pay to attend TotalCon - prices to follow)

   To help speed up the registration process, email your name and
   V:EKN number to fudjo@... with the subject "Northeast
   Regional Qualiifer".  In theory, we'll have you already entered
   into the Archon (with a random player number), and you'll only
   need to give us your event ticket when you arrive.


   The location:

   Holiday Inn
   31 Hampshire St.
   Mansfield, MA 02048
   (508) 339-2200

   Mansfield, MA is at the intersection of I-95 and I-495 south of
   Boston.  Hotel rates for TotalCon are $72 per night, plus
   applicable tax.  Be must ask for TotalCon's convention rates
   when making your reservation.


   The cost:

   TotalCon pre-registration
     Friday $10
     Saturday $10
     Sunday $10
     All weekend $30
     Event tickets $2.50

   TotalCon registration at-the-door
     Friday $12
     Saturday $12
     Sunday $12
     All weekend $40
     Event tickets $3


   Other events:

   Beneath the Howling Stars
   Friday, February 21
   6pm - midnight
   Standard Constructed Deck Tournament
   2 rounds plus finals
   2 hours per round
   No event ticket required

   Clio's Kiss
   Sunday, February 23
   9am - 5pm
   Limited Booster Draft
   5 Bloodlines boosters, 4 Camarilla Edition boosters
   3 rounds plus finals
   2 hours per round
   $15.00 (no event ticket required)

   Note that these additional events do not appear in the
   TotalCon booklet.  Do not panic!  They are, in fact,
   happening.  We'll have a pack of Anarchs spreading
   propaganda about the event at TotalCon so that you won't
   forget.


   Summary of events:

   Friday, 6pm: 2 round Constructed
   Saturday, noon: Northeast Regional Qualifier
   Sunday, 9am: Booster Draft


   For more of the same information:

   Qualifier website
   www.rustwurk.net/qualifier2k3

   TotalCon website
   www.totalcon.com

   White Wolf V:TES website
   www.white-wolf.com/vtes


   For further information:

   www.rodent.demon.co.uk/gerbils/wild.htm


   We look forward to seeing you there!


   - Grant Garvin, Ben Peal, and Todd Richter

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Burnett <burnt65@y...>"
<burnt65@y...> wrote:
> I tap "Anson, Price of Seattle" to play a political action.  During
> the referendum, Anson gets no votes because he is tapped.
> Is this correct?

No.

All "ready titled vampires" grant their controllers the number of
votes represented by their titles.  A "ready" vampire is one that is
not in torpor.  Being tapped has nothing to do with it.

See 6.3.3. Gaining Votes in the online rulebook, here:

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/

"For each ready titled vampire a Methuselah controls, she gains extra
votes."

and the glossary for the defintion of a ready vampire.

"A vampire in torpor is not ready but is still considered controlled."



Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.thelasombra.com/vtes_faq.htm

Thanks for all the quick answers.

I have another.

Does a press (used to end combat) cancel the automatic press
from "Trap"?  I assume it does as the "Trap" press is just like any
other.  If the "trapper" them plays another press (to cancel the
cancel) is the "Trap" still in effect?

Thanks

Keith

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, bi529 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Burnett <burnt65@y...>"
> <burnt65@y...> wrote:
> > I tap "Anson, Price of Seattle" to play a political action.
During
> > the referendum, Anson gets no votes because he is tapped.
> > Is this correct?
>
> No.
>
> All "ready titled vampires" grant their controllers the number of
> votes represented by their titles.  A "ready" vampire is one that
is
> not in torpor.  Being tapped has nothing to do with it.
>
> See 6.3.3. Gaining Votes in the online rulebook, here:
>
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/
>
> "For each ready titled vampire a Methuselah controls, she gains
extra
> votes."
>
> and the glossary for the defintion of a ready vampire.
>
> "A vampire in torpor is not ready but is still considered
controlled."
>
>
>
> Carpe noctem.
>
> Lasombra
>
> http://www.thelasombra.com/vtes_faq.htm

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Burnett" wrote:
> Does a press (used to end combat) cancel the automatic press
> from "Trap"?

Trap presses to continue.
Either player may press to end.
Unless a press to continue is played, combat will end.



> I assume it does as the "Trap" press is just like any
> other.

Right.


> If the "trapper" them plays another press (to cancel the
> cancel) is the "Trap" still in effect?

Yes.


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

I thought trap presses were automatic presses to continue as long as any card
was played for 3 rounds.  Or am I wrong?
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bi529
   To: vtes@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:38 PM
   Subject: [VTES] Re: Another question


   --- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Burnett" wrote:
   > Does a press (used to end combat) cancel the automatic press
   > from "Trap"?

   Trap presses to continue.
   Either player may press to end.
   Unless a press to continue is played, combat will end.



   > I assume it does as the "Trap" press is just like any
   > other.

   Right.


   > If the "trapper" them plays another press (to cancel the
   > cancel) is the "Trap" still in effect?

   Yes.


   Carpe noctem.

   Lasombra

   http://www.TheLasombra.com


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--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, Brad Griffie <bradgriffie@c...> wrote:
> I thought trap presses were automatic presses to continue as long
as any card was played for 3 rounds.  Or am I wrong?

Trap grants 1 press to continue if a card was played within the last
three rounds.

Either player can press to end, and the combat will end, just like
every other press to continue card is defeated by a press to end.


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com/vtes_faq.htm

I'm looking for these cards in the original Jyhad format not VTES:

Aaron's Feeding Razor
Charnas the Imp
Conquer the Beast
Curse of Nitocris
Flesh of Marble
Ghoul Retainer
Kindred Society Games
The Knights
Madness Network
Malkavian Time Auction
Millicent Smith, Puritan Vampire Hunter
Monocle of Clarity
Praxis Seizure: Miami
Ritual Challenge
Ritual of the Bitter Rose
Rowan Ring
Sengir Dagger
Society of Leopold
Talbot's Chainsaw
Tasha Morgan
Temptation of Greater Power
Toreador Justicar


I have these cards in the original Jyhad format not Vtes:
 	  Brujah
Angel 5
Anvil 2
Appolonius 3
Bianca 1
Black Cat 1
Crusher 1
Don Cruez, The Idealist 1
Dre, Leader of the Cold Dawn 1
Hector Sosa 1
Lupo 1
Miranda Sanova 2
Rake 1
Tura Vaughn 1
Uma Hatch 1
Yuri, The Talon 1
 	  Caitiff
Hasina Kesi 2
Igo the Hungry 1
Navar McClaren 1
Nik 1
Smudge the Ignored 1
Uriah Winter 2
 	  Gangrel
Anastasia Grey 2
Angus the Unruled 2
Badger 4
Basilia 1
Bear Paw 1
Camille Devereux 2
Gitane St. Claire 2
Giuliano Vincenzi 1
Gunther, Beast Lord 1
Quinton McDonnell 2
Ricki Van Demsy (Demsi) 2
Roman Alexander 2
Vliam Andor 1
Wynn 1
Zack North 3
 	  Malkavian
Aleph 1
Brazil 1
Dancin' Dana 1
Didi Meyers 2
Gilbert Duane 2
Lucian 1
Mariel, Lady Thunder 2
Normal 5
Ozmo 2
Roland Bishop 1
Roxanne, Rectrix of the 13th Floor 1
Sylvester Simms 1
Zebulon 1
 	  Nosferatu

Agrippina 2
Chester DuBois 1
Duck 2
Ebanezer Roush 2
Grendel - the Worm Eaten 1
KoKo 1
Marty Lechtansi 1
Sebastian Marley 1
Selma the Repugnant 1
Sheldon, Lord of the Clog 1
Tiberius - Scandalmonger 1
Tusk - Talebearer 3

 	  Toreador
Adrianne 2
Andreas - Bard of Crete 1
Anson 2
Colin Flynn 2
Delilah Easton 1
Demetrius Slater 2
Dieter Kleist 3
Dorian Strack 3
Eliott Sinclair, Virtuoso Thespian 1
Felicia Mostrom 3
Kallista, Master Sculptor 1
Masika 1
Ramiel DuPre 1
Tatiana Romanov 2
 	  Tremere
Astrid Thomas 1
Cardano 1
Cassandra, Magus Prime 2
Dr. John Casey 2
Ignatius 1
Jing Wei 3
Justine, Elder of Dallas 1
Lazarus 2
Lydia Van Cuelen 2
Merrill Molitor 2
Roreca Quaid 2
Sabine Lafitte 1
Sarah Cobbler 1
Thomas Thorne 1
Ulugh Beg, The Watcher 2
 	  Ventrue
Courtland Leighton 2
Democritus 1
Emerson Bridges 1
Gideon Fontaine 2
Heather Florent, The Opportunist 1
Helena Casimir 2
Jazz Wentworth 2
Lucia Pacciola (Luccia Paciola) 1
Melissa Barton 1
Natasha Volfchek 1
Roland Loussarian 1
Rufina Soledad1
Sir Walter Nash 2
Timothy Crowley 1


 	  Library

.44 Magnum 6 C
Aching Beauty 1 U
Acrobatics 7 C
Aid from Bats 4 C
Amaranth 2 U
Ancient Influence 5 C
Ancilla Empowerment 6 C
Animalism 2 C
Archon 1 V
Army of Rats 5 C
Arson 6 C
Art Museum 1 R
Ascendance 7 C
Asylum Hunting Ground 2 U
Auspex 5 C
Autarkis Persecution 5 C
The Barrens 4 C
Behind You! 1 R2
Bewitching Oration 6 C
Blood Doll 5 C
Blood Fury 5 C
Bloodhunt 2 U
Blood Rage 7 C
Blur 5 C
Bonding 8 C
Boxed In 6 C
Brainwash 5 C
Bribes 5 C
Brujah Frenzy 2 U
Bum's Rush 6 C
Burst of Sunlight 1 R2
Camarilla Exemplary 7 C
Canine Horde 10 C
Cat's Guidance 4 C
Cauldron of Blood 5 C
Celerity 6 C
Chainsaw 6 U2
Change of Target 2 U
Charming Lobby 2 U
Claws of the Dead 6 C
Cloak the Gathering 5 C
Computer Hacking 7 C
Concealed Weapon 5 C
Conditioning 5 C
Consanguineous Boon 4 C
Consanguineous Condemnation 8 C
Conservative Agitation 5 C
Cryptic Mission 8 C
Cultivated Blood Shortage 2 U
Cunctator Motion 1 R2
Dead-End Alley 4 C
Deal with the Devil 5 C
Deer Rifle 2 C
Deflection 6 C
Delaying Tactics 1 U
Disguised Weapon 8 C
Disputed Territory 5 C
Distraction 1 R2
Dodge 6 C
Domain Challenge 6 C
Dominate 5 C
Dramatic Upheaval 1 V
Drawing Out the Beast 3 C
Dread Gaze 5 C
Eagle's Sight 2 U
Earth Control 6 C
Earth Meld 5 C
Effective Management 5 C
Elder Kindred Network 2 U
Elder Library 3 C
Elysium: The Arboretum 1 U
The Embrace 2 R2
Enchant Kindred 7 C
Enhanced Senses 4 C
Faceless Night 9 C
Fake Out 4 C
Far Mastery 2 R2
Fast Hands 1 U
Fast Reaction 6 C
Flak Jacket 8 C
Flash 6 C
Form of the Ghost 5 C
Fortitude 3 C
Frenzy 5 C
Gangrel De-evolution (Gangrel Atavism) 1 U
Gird Minions 5 C
Gleam of Red Eyes 6 C
Govern the Unaligned 8 C
Grenade 4 U2
Growing Fury 5 C
Gypsies 2 U
Haven Uncovered 6 C
Hawg 7 C
Hell Hound 2 R2
Hidden Lurker 3 C
Homunculus 1 U
Hostile Takeover 1 R
Illegal Search and Seizure 8 C
Immortal Grapple 1 R2
Indomitability 7 C
Infernal Pursuit 1 U2
Information Highway 2 U
IR Goggles 4 U2
Kindred Restructure 2 V
Kindred Segregation 1 V
Kine Resources Contested 4 C
KRCG News Radio 2 U
Laptop Computer 5 C
Legal Manipulations 8 C
Letter from Vienna 2 U
Lextalionis 1 V
Lost in Crowds 6 C
Loyal Street Gang 2 U
Lucky Blow 10 C
Majesty 4 C
Malkavian Prank 1 R2
Manstopper Rounds 3 U2
Mask of a Thousand Faces 1 U
Masquerade Endangered 1 U
Metro Underground 3 U
Mighty Grapple 5 C
Minion Tap 5 C
Misdirection 5 C
Mob Connections 1 U
Movement of the Mind 5 C
Mr. Winthrop 1 R2
Muddled Vampire Hunter 2 U
Night Moves 2 U2
Nimble Feet 5 C
Nosferatu Justicar 1 R
Nosferatu Putrescence 1 U
Obedience 4 U
Obfuscate 6 C
Open Grate 3 C
Parity Shift 4 V
Peace Treaty 8 C
Police Department 2 U
Political Backlash 5 C
Political Flux 5 C
Potence 5 C
Powerbase: Chicago 2 U
Powerbase: Washington, D.C. 2 U
Praxis Seizure: Boston 1 U
Praxis Seizure: Washington, D.C. 2 R
Praxis Solomon 3 V
Presence 5 C
Protean 5 C
Protracted Investment 5 C
Psyche 3 U
Psychic Projection 1 R2
Pulled Fangs 1 R2
Pulling Strings 3 U2
Pulse of the Canaille 2 U
The Rack 2 U
Rampage 5 U2
Rapid Healing 7 C
Rats' Warning 8 C
Raven Spy 2 U
Read Intentions 7 C
Regaining the Upper Hand 5 C
Renegade Garou 1 R2
Resplendent Protector 1 R2
Restoration 6 C
Reversal of Fortunes 1 V
Rumors of Gehenna 1 R2
Sabbat Threat 4 R2
Saturday-Night Special 5 V
Sawed-Off Shotgun 6 C
Scorn of Adonis 2 C
The Second Tradition: Domain 3 U
Seduction 6 U
Shattering Blow 8 C
Short-Term Investment 6 C
Sideslip 6 C
Skin of Night 1 U
Skin of Rock 6 C
Skin of Steel 3 C
Slum Hunting Ground 1 U
Smiling Jack, The Anarch 1 R
Social Charm 6 C
Soul Gem of Etrius 1 R
The Spirit's Touch 5 C
Sport Bike 4 U2
Spying Mission 2 U
Stake (Wooden Stake) 1 U
Sudden Reversal 2 U
Surprise Influence 5 C
Taste of Vitae 3 U
Telepathic Counter 5 C
Telepathic Misdirection 7 C
Thaumaturgy 7 C
Theft of Vitae 3 C
The Third Tradition: Progeny 1 U
Threats 5 C
Thrown Gate 4 C
Thrown Sewer Lid 4 C
Toreador Justicar 1 R
Tragic Love Affair 1 U
Trap 5 C
Undead Persistence 4 U2
Undead Strength 5 C
Unflinching Persistence 8 C
Unnatural Disaster 7 C
Uptown Hunting Ground 1 U
Vampiric Speed 5 C
Vanish from the Mind's Eye 5 C
Voter Captivation 4 U2
Wake with Evening's Freshness 7 C
Walk of Flame 4 U2
Warzone Hunting Ground 2 U
Weather Control 3 U
Well-Aimed Car 2 U
Wolf Claws 6 C
Wolf Companion 3 U2
Zip Gun 2 U2

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Ronn Robinson <buggerinp@h...>"
<buggerinp@h...> wrote:
> I'm looking for these cards in the original Jyhad format not VTES:

Ronn,

There is a mailing list dedicated solely to trading for this fine
game.  You can find it and its 150+ members here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VTES_Trading/

You might get a better response if you repost your request to that
mailing list as well.  I wish you luck in finding what you seek.


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Ronn Robinson <buggerinp@h...>"
<buggerinp@h...> wrote:
> I'm looking for these cards in the original Jyhad format not VTES:
>
<snippet the rest of the letter>

There's also a web site that I've seen called "Communal Haven".  I
think that's been tossed around this group once or twice.
http://www.communal-haven.com/vtes/communal_haven/home.php3 will send
you straight to the site.  You may have to copy the link and paste it
in the address bar, but it's well worth the effort.  ;o)

Red Wolf

For Immediate Release
January 20, 2003

Chad Brown
White Wolf Inc.
404-292-1819 ext. 254
chadb@...

White Wolf Announces 2003 European Vampire CCG Championship in
Barcelona

Atlanta, GA‹White Wolf Publishing, Inc. announces that the 2003
Vampire: The Eternal Struggle® European Championship will be held in
Barcelona, Spain this October.

Players from throughout Europe who qualify in 2003 National
Championship events will be invited to attend the European
Championship in Barcelona and pit their skills against fellow
champions. All players are invited to attend, however, because those
not yet qualified in National Championships will still have a chance
to qualify in one final Qualifier Tournament held the day before the
European Championship. A complete list of Qualifier Tournaments will
be available at www.white-wolf.com/vtes later this month.

The 2003 Barcelona Championship will be hosted by Distrimagen, the
Vampire Elder Kindred Network (the official Vampire CCG player
organization), the Hispanic Conclave and White Wolf. Specific
information on the tournament (including registration, accommodations
and public transportation info) will be made available when the
official 2003 European Championship website goes online later this
year. In the meantime, you can contact the president of the Hispanic
Conclave, Ginés Quiñonero, via email at (damnansVTES@...) and
check www.white-wolf.com/vtes for updates. The registration fee will
be a modest 10 euro, and the qualifying event and many other side
events are open to all players. Make plans to visit beautiful
Barcelona and match wits with the world¹s best players.

White Wolf has also announced that the 2004 European Championship
will be held in Germany.

Vampire: The Eternal Struggle (or V:TES) is White Wolf¹s signature
collectible card game (or CCG) based on its Vampire: The Masquerade
storytelling game. First published by Wizards of the Coast and more
recently by White Wolf itself, V:TES is the second-oldest active card
game next to Magic: the Gathering. Acclaimed for its high level of
strategy and social gaming, V:TES enjoys world-wide popularity among
mature gamers. This European Championship is a sister event to
similar continental championships in North America and Australia.

White Wolf Publishing (www.white-wolf.com) is a company dedicated to
redefining the art of storytelling. Since its birth in 1991, White
Wolf has consistently stretched the boundaries of familiar modes of
artistic entertainment, introducing new realms to the horror, science
fiction and fantasy genres. We began our journey with our now highly
popular role-playing lines, and then ventured into the realm of mass-
market fiction publishing. Now, we are involved in the electronic
entertainment and television industries.

--
LSJ (vtesrep@...) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament
calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

I recently moved and found these old cards and they
were used once that is it.  they are in mint condition
dated 1994 not sure if maybe there is a good pricelist
somewhere or where to sell them if they are worth
anything here is a list... also would trade for magic
cards

theft of vitae
lextalionis
delaying tactics
flame thrower
assult rifle
aura reading
voter captivation
bastard sword
game of malkav
storm sewers
academic hunting ground
gilbert duane
zack north
sir walter nash
agrippina
appolonius
koko, dr. john casey, bear paw,roland bishop, roreca
quaid,felicia mostrom, lazarus, anneke, courtland
leighton,dieter kleist,adrainne, badger, elder
library,thaumaturgy, haven uncovered,gird minions,
protean, potence, kine resources contested, political
backlash, skin of rock, social charm, the barrens,
fortitude, ancilla empowerment, .44 magnum, regaining
the upper hand , couldron of blood, deer rifle, army
of rats, enhance senses, skin of steel, lost in
crowds,restoration, saturday night special, telepathic
misdirection, cats guidance, dead end alleybums rush,
blood rage, bribes, flash, indomitability, open grate,
autarkis persecution, concealed weapon, hawg, blood
fury,consanguineous boon, conservative agitation,
undead strength, majesty,boxed in , cloak of
gathering, political flux, thrown gate, aid from bats,
hidden lurker, animalism, effective management,
fortitude, celerity, the barrens, jackie therman,
ivory bow, body of son, praxis solomon, sabbat threat,
metro underground, thorn signpost,chainsaw, zip gun,
rampage, nosferatu putrescence,and vulnerability

Hi, please disregard the previous email I sent you. I misunderstood
(although if you've got any of that stuff I'm interested. I do have almost
everything on your list. The only things I really want from you are the Soul
Gem (Go Jimmy Dunn YEAH)! and the Immortal Grapple. I am Desperate for
Camarilla Vampires and would give 1 rare for every 3 of them. Sorry for the
confusion.

Regards,

Jeremy G. Prince of Adelaide

>From: "Ronn Robinson <buggerinp@...>" <buggerinp@...>
>Reply-To: vtes@yahoogroups.com
>To: vtes@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [VTES] Trying to trade Jyhad cards
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:17:55 -0000
>
>I'm looking for these cards in the original Jyhad format not VTES:
>
>Aaron's Feeding Razor
>Charnas the Imp
>Conquer the Beast
>Curse of Nitocris
>Flesh of Marble
>Ghoul Retainer
>Kindred Society Games
>The Knights
>Madness Network
>Malkavian Time Auction
>Millicent Smith, Puritan Vampire Hunter
>Monocle of Clarity
>Praxis Seizure: Miami
>Ritual Challenge
>Ritual of the Bitter Rose
>Rowan Ring
>Sengir Dagger
>Society of Leopold
>Talbot's Chainsaw
>Tasha Morgan
>Temptation of Greater Power
>Toreador Justicar
>
>
>I have these cards in the original Jyhad format not Vtes:
>  	 Brujah
>Angel 5
>Anvil 2
>Appolonius 3
>Bianca 1
>Black Cat 1
>Crusher 1
>Don Cruez, The Idealist 1
>Dre, Leader of the Cold Dawn 1
>Hector Sosa 1
>Lupo 1
>Miranda Sanova 2
>Rake 1
>Tura Vaughn 1
>Uma Hatch 1
>Yuri, The Talon 1
>  	 Caitiff
>Hasina Kesi 2
>Igo the Hungry 1
>Navar McClaren 1
>Nik 1
>Smudge the Ignored 1
>Uriah Winter 2
>  	 Gangrel
>Anastasia Grey 2
>Angus the Unruled 2
>Badger 4
>Basilia 1
>Bear Paw 1
>Camille Devereux 2
>Gitane St. Claire 2
>Giuliano Vincenzi 1
>Gunther, Beast Lord 1
>Quinton McDonnell 2
>Ricki Van Demsy (Demsi) 2
>Roman Alexander 2
>Vliam Andor 1
>Wynn 1
>Zack North 3
>  	 Malkavian
>Aleph 1
>Brazil 1
>Dancin' Dana 1
>Didi Meyers 2
>Gilbert Duane 2
>Lucian 1
>Mariel, Lady Thunder 2
>Normal 5
>Ozmo 2
>Roland Bishop 1
>Roxanne, Rectrix of the 13th Floor 1
>Sylvester Simms 1
>Zebulon 1
>  	 Nosferatu
>
>Agrippina 2
>Chester DuBois 1
>Duck 2
>Ebanezer Roush 2
>Grendel - the Worm Eaten 1
>KoKo 1
>Marty Lechtansi 1
>Sebastian Marley 1
>Selma the Repugnant 1
>Sheldon, Lord of the Clog 1
>Tiberius - Scandalmonger 1
>Tusk - Talebearer 3
>
>  	 Toreador
>Adrianne 2
>Andreas - Bard of Crete 1
>Anson 2
>Colin Flynn 2
>Delilah Easton 1
>Demetrius Slater 2
>Dieter Kleist 3
>Dorian Strack 3
>Eliott Sinclair, Virtuoso Thespian 1
>Felicia Mostrom 3
>Kallista, Master Sculptor 1
>Masika 1
>Ramiel DuPre 1
>Tatiana Romanov 2
>  	 Tremere
>Astrid Thomas 1
>Cardano 1
>Cassandra, Magus Prime 2
>Dr. John Casey 2
>Ignatius 1
>Jing Wei 3
>Justine, Elder of Dallas 1
>Lazarus 2
>Lydia Van Cuelen 2
>Merrill Molitor 2
>Roreca Quaid 2
>Sabine Lafitte 1
>Sarah Cobbler 1
>Thomas Thorne 1
>Ulugh Beg, The Watcher 2
>  	 Ventrue
>Courtland Leighton 2
>Democritus 1
>Emerson Bridges 1
>Gideon Fontaine 2
>Heather Florent, The Opportunist 1
>Helena Casimir 2
>Jazz Wentworth 2
>Lucia Pacciola (Luccia Paciola) 1
>Melissa Barton 1
>Natasha Volfchek 1
>Roland Loussarian 1
>Rufina Soledad1
>Sir Walter Nash 2
>Timothy Crowley 1
>
>
>  	 Library
>
>.44 Magnum 6 C
>Aching Beauty 1 U
>Acrobatics 7 C
>Aid from Bats 4 C
>Amaranth 2 U
>Ancient Influence 5 C
>Ancilla Empowerment 6 C
>Animalism 2 C
>Archon 1 V
>Army of Rats 5 C
>Arson 6 C
>Art Museum 1 R
>Ascendance 7 C
>Asylum Hunting Ground 2 U
>Auspex 5 C
>Autarkis Persecution 5 C
>The Barrens 4 C
>Behind You! 1 R2
>Bewitching Oration 6 C
>Blood Doll 5 C
>Blood Fury 5 C
>Bloodhunt 2 U
>Blood Rage 7 C
>Blur 5 C
>Bonding 8 C
>Boxed In 6 C
>Brainwash 5 C
>Bribes 5 C
>Brujah Frenzy 2 U
>Bum's Rush 6 C
>Burst of Sunlight 1 R2
>Camarilla Exemplary 7 C
>Canine Horde 10 C
>Cat's Guidance 4 C
>Cauldron of Blood 5 C
>Celerity 6 C
>Chainsaw 6 U2
>Change of Target 2 U
>Charming Lobby 2 U
>Claws of the Dead 6 C
>Cloak the Gathering 5 C
>Computer Hacking 7 C
>Concealed Weapon 5 C
>Conditioning 5 C
>Consanguineous Boon 4 C
>Consanguineous Condemnation 8 C
>Conservative Agitation 5 C
>Cryptic Mission 8 C
>Cultivated Blood Shortage 2 U
>Cunctator Motion 1 R2
>Dead-End Alley 4 C
>Deal with the Devil 5 C
>Deer Rifle 2 C
>Deflection 6 C
>Delaying Tactics 1 U
>Disguised Weapon 8 C
>Disputed Territory 5 C
>Distraction 1 R2
>Dodge 6 C
>Domain Challenge 6 C
>Dominate 5 C
>Dramatic Upheaval 1 V
>Drawing Out the Beast 3 C
>Dread Gaze 5 C
>Eagle's Sight 2 U
>Earth Control 6 C
>Earth Meld 5 C
>Effective Management 5 C
>Elder Kindred Network 2 U
>Elder Library 3 C
>Elysium: The Arboretum 1 U
>The Embrace 2 R2
>Enchant Kindred 7 C
>Enhanced Senses 4 C
>Faceless Night 9 C
>Fake Out 4 C
>Far Mastery 2 R2
>Fast Hands 1 U
>Fast Reaction 6 C
>Flak Jacket 8 C
>Flash 6 C
>Form of the Ghost 5 C
>Fortitude 3 C
>Frenzy 5 C
>Gangrel De-evolution (Gangrel Atavism) 1 U
>Gird Minions 5 C
>Gleam of Red Eyes 6 C
>Govern the Unaligned 8 C
>Grenade 4 U2
>Growing Fury 5 C
>Gypsies 2 U
>Haven Uncovered 6 C
>Hawg 7 C
>Hell Hound 2 R2
>Hidden Lurker 3 C
>Homunculus 1 U
>Hostile Takeover 1 R
>Illegal Search and Seizure 8 C
>Immortal Grapple 1 R2
>Indomitability 7 C
>Infernal Pursuit 1 U2
>Information Highway 2 U
>IR Goggles 4 U2
>Kindred Restructure 2 V
>Kindred Segregation 1 V
>Kine Resources Contested 4 C
>KRCG News Radio 2 U
>Laptop Computer 5 C
>Legal Manipulations 8 C
>Letter from Vienna 2 U
>Lextalionis 1 V
>Lost in Crowds 6 C
>Loyal Street Gang 2 U
>Lucky Blow 10 C
>Majesty 4 C
>Malkavian Prank 1 R2
>Manstopper Rounds 3 U2
>Mask of a Thousand Faces 1 U
>Masquerade Endangered 1 U
>Metro Underground 3 U
>Mighty Grapple 5 C
>Minion Tap 5 C
>Misdirection 5 C
>Mob Connections 1 U
>Movement of the Mind 5 C
>Mr. Winthrop 1 R2
>Muddled Vampire Hunter 2 U
>Night Moves 2 U2
>Nimble Feet 5 C
>Nosferatu Justicar 1 R
>Nosferatu Putrescence 1 U
>Obedience 4 U
>Obfuscate 6 C
>Open Grate 3 C
>Parity Shift 4 V
>Peace Treaty 8 C
>Police Department 2 U
>Political Backlash 5 C
>Political Flux 5 C
>Potence 5 C
>Powerbase: Chicago 2 U
>Powerbase: Washington, D.C. 2 U
>Praxis Seizure: Boston 1 U
>Praxis Seizure: Washington, D.C. 2 R
>Praxis Solomon 3 V
>Presence 5 C
>Protean 5 C
>Protracted Investment 5 C
>Psyche 3 U
>Psychic Projection 1 R2
>Pulled Fangs 1 R2
>Pulling Strings 3 U2
>Pulse of the Canaille 2 U
>The Rack 2 U
>Rampage 5 U2
>Rapid Healing 7 C
>Rats' Warning 8 C
>Raven Spy 2 U
>Read Intentions 7 C
>Regaining the Upper Hand 5 C
>Renegade Garou 1 R2
>Resplendent Protector 1 R2
>Restoration 6 C
>Reversal of Fortunes 1 V
>Rumors of Gehenna 1 R2
>Sabbat Threat 4 R2
>Saturday-Night Special 5 V
>Sawed-Off Shotgun 6 C
>Scorn of Adonis 2 C
>The Second Tradition: Domain 3 U
>Seduction 6 U
>Shattering Blow 8 C
>Short-Term Investment 6 C
>Sideslip 6 C
>Skin of Night 1 U
>Skin of Rock 6 C
>Skin of Steel 3 C
>Slum Hunting Ground 1 U
>Smiling Jack, The Anarch 1 R
>Social Charm 6 C
>Soul Gem of Etrius 1 R
>The Spirit's Touch 5 C
>Sport Bike 4 U2
>Spying Mission 2 U
>Stake (Wooden Stake) 1 U
>Sudden Reversal 2 U
>Surprise Influence 5 C
>Taste of Vitae 3 U
>Telepathic Counter 5 C
>Telepathic Misdirection 7 C
>Thaumaturgy 7 C
>Theft of Vitae 3 C
>The Third Tradition: Progeny 1 U
>Threats 5 C
>Thrown Gate 4 C
>Thrown Sewer Lid 4 C
>Toreador Justicar 1 R
>Tragic Love Affair 1 U
>Trap 5 C
>Undead Persistence 4 U2
>Undead Strength 5 C
>Unflinching Persistence 8 C
>Unnatural Disaster 7 C
>Uptown Hunting Ground 1 U
>Vampiric Speed 5 C
>Vanish from the Mind's Eye 5 C
>Voter Captivation 4 U2
>Wake with Evening's Freshness 7 C
>Walk of Flame 4 U2
>Warzone Hunting Ground 2 U
>Weather Control 3 U
>Well-Aimed Car 2 U
>Wolf Claws 6 C
>Wolf Companion 3 U2
>Zip Gun 2 U2
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this SPECIAL REPORT from VTES-Baltimore:

Tournament Name: Baltimore Purge
Tournament Date: February 8, 2003
Type of Event: Constructed Deck Tournament
City: Beautiful Downtown Glen Burnie
Start Time: 11:45
Number of rounds: 3+F
Time limit per round: 2hr

Address of Event: Games and Comics...and Stuff
                    7452 Baltimore and Annapolis Blvd
                    Glen Burnie, Maryland 21061
                    (410) 863-7418

Use multi-judge rules: Y
Entry fee: $3.00
Web site: www.gamescomicsstuff.com
Organizer Name: Dan Coleman, Prince of Baltimore
Organizer Email: do30red@...

Comments: Glen Burnie is located 11 miles S of Baltimore, 34 miles NE
of DC, 16 miles NNW of Annapolis, and 685 miles NE of Atlanta, GA.

DIRECTIONS:  http://www.gamescomicsstuff.com/level2.htm

If you let me know beforehand that you're planning to come, I'll
try not to start without you.

Dan Coleman
V:EKN Prince of Baltimore




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hi all,

i set up a little chat for all VTES Players, using the Spinchat
client.

Go here:

http://213.229.19.99/chris/chat.html

and chat with players from around the world.

I know it's a little small yet, but if attendance is high, then I, or
someone who is better at stuff like this, might set up something
bigger.

regards

Chris.QJ

Hello everyone!I made a Baltimore Purge/Graverobbing deck and I have
a specific question regarding who gets sent to torpor and their ages.
My deck is pretty much all Lasombra because I wanted to choose who
goes to torpor.The card says that each meth chooses a younger vampire
than the acting vampire and if I control a Lasombra,I choose instead.
             The question is,I control a ready Lasombra,can I choose
an OLDER vampire or do they still have to be younger?
                                     Thanks in advance,
                                               Ron B. Montreal

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, longarm222 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hello everyone!I made a Baltimore Purge/Graverobbing deck
> and I have a specific question regarding who gets sent to torpor
> and their ages.  My deck is pretty much all Lasombra because I
> wanted to choose who goes to torpor. The card says that each meth
> chooses a younger vampire than the acting vampire and if I control
> a Lasombra,I choose instead. The question is, if I control a ready
> Lasombra,can I choose an OLDER vampire or do they still have to be
> younger?

The card only allows you to target same age or younger vampires.
None of the card text ever allows you to target an older vampire.


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/purge.htm

There was a deck that Wizards had posted on their site for a while
that was an Agg Damage and burn deck based around Muaziz I think.  I
was checking out the old deck archives and never found it. Does
anyone have that deck list or something similar?

Thanks
Mike

Awhile back, TopDeck Magazine, had some Decks posted in them for
Vampire.  one of which was called Aggravation.
If you are interested email me at greywolf31@... and I will
dig up a copy and send it to you.

If there is enough intrest I will post them all to the Deck Archives
Group as well, so LMK if there is interest...

BTW - The Decks posted in those issues were usually decent decks good
for Beginners and Intermediate players.

Also a good starting place for Ideas.

Todd Richter
Prince of Springfield, MA


--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buckley <mykbuckley@y...>"
<mykbuckley@y...> wrote:
> There was a deck that Wizards had posted on their site for a while
> that was an Agg Damage and burn deck based around Muaziz I think.
I
> was checking out the old deck archives and never found it. Does
> anyone have that deck list or something similar?
>
> Thanks
> Mike

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buckley <mykbuckley@y...>"
<mykbuckley@y...> wrote:
> There was a deck that Wizards had posted on their site for a while
> that was an Agg Damage and burn deck based around Muaziz I think.
> I was checking out the old deck archives and never found it. Does
> anyone have that deck list or something similar?

That Top Deck article is here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=81hq5j%24hb9%241%40nnrp1.deja.com


Be sure you realize that a lot of Chris' advice is just plain brown
wrong when it comes to specific cards texts.  Lots of changes have
been made to the game since that article was published.  Some of the
things where he was wrong was all him though.



Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

Sawed-off Shotgun: 3R damage each strike; This weapon is only once
per
combat.

The shotgun is unusable after a press for next the round of combat
(used in first round). However, if an additional strike is played
after the stike on the first round, is the 3R gun damage applicable
for this extra stike: remember- 3R damage EACH stike?

Is celerity wasted on a shotgun?

---
Bum's Rush:
If this action is blocked, is the manuever lost for the ensuing
combat?

=======
flane
-One Does Not Beg The Sun For Mercy -

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, flaney <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Sawed-off Shotgun: 3R damage each strike; This weapon is only once
> per combat.

> The shotgun is unusable after a press for next the round of combat
> (used in first round). However, if an additional strike is played
> after the stike on the first round, is the 3R gun damage applicable
> for this extra stike: remember- 3R damage EACH stike?

No.
It is only usable once each combat.


> Is celerity wasted on a shotgun?

Yes.


> Bum's Rush:
> If this action is blocked, is the manuever lost for the ensuing
> combat?

Yes.
You still will not replace it until the action is complete however.



Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

Hi

Im currently selling the following cards on ebay, all lots start at
60p/$1

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=echasseaud

These auctions end on Monday 3rd February

3x Giants Blood
2x Betrayer
2x Curse of Nitocris
2x Smiling Jack the Anarch
3x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Society of Leopold
Golcanda Inner Peace
XTC Laced Blood
Vampiric Disease
Millicent Smith
2x Fragment of Book Nod
Succubus Club
Protected Resources
3x Blood Puppy
Left for Dead
Tower of London
Creepshow Casino
Week of Nightmares
Visit from Capuchin
Khobar Towers, Al-K
2x Children of Osiris
3x Tomb of Rameses III
2x Redeem the Lost Soul
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
Oath of Loyalty
Shock Troops
Infamous Warlock
2x Vicissitude Poisoning
2x Aggressive Tactics
2x Obsession
2x Detection
2x Out of Control
2x Malkavian Derangement
4x Direct Intervention
2x Slave Auction
3x Unacceptable Appearance
The Coven
Bestial Visage
The Hungry Coyote
2x Mariana Gilbert
2x Dan Murdock

This lot of auctions end on Thursday 6th February

2x Ghoul Escort
2x Tasha Morgan
3x Mr Winthrop
3x J.S. Simmons Esq.
3x Jackie Therman
3x Hell Hound
8x Sports Bike
2x Aaron's Feeding Razor
2x Soul Gem of Etrius
8x Leather Jacket
2x RPG Launcher
2x Ivory Bow
2x Talbot's Chainsaw
2x Sengir Dagger
5x IR Goggles
Hand of Conrad
10x Flak Jacket
Changeling Skin Mask
4x Garou Blood + 4x Elder Vitae
2x The Crimson Sentinel
6x Palatial Estate
Sniper Rifle

Regards

Emile

This is the list of ppl attending the draft
torunament.
Please let me know if your name is missing or wrongly
added.

Ralf: I dont remember if you wanted to play the draft.

Any last minute drop ins?


Anatol
Sacha Neumayr + 3 players
Monica (maybe busy with the clock)
Rui
Falko
Thomas G.
Erwin
Markus
Gregor
Bjoern
Johanes + Andreas N.
Carl P. + Alex W.

to confirm:
Erik (Ramstein) + wife (forgot her name, sorry)


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I've just got back into the game (again). It seems I quit right
before Sabbat War came out.  Right now I am just re-building my sets
(I gotta quit selling these everytime I stop playing) and had a few
questions.

1.  Out of curiosity, why are the Tremere Antitribu not included in
Sabbat War?

2.  I am going to GenCon this summer and might jump in my first VTES
tourney. Whats a decent strategy for a somewhat new player? Metagame
tactics? Anything else I need to know? (I read the updated rules and
errata already) I expect to get trounced, and thats ok cause it's all
about fun. But I'd like to be able to hold my own for a little while.

3.  Do people playing casual games at Gencon aside from the tourneys?

Mike

--- In vtes@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buckley <mykbuckley@y...>"
<mykbuckley@y...> wrote:
> 1.  Out of curiosity, why are the Tremere Antitribu not included in
> Sabbat War?
>
  My take is that some evil writer dude decided to write off the
Tremere Antitribu like a second rate character on Buffy the Vampire
Slayer.

I have made it my mission to try and score wins during Storyline
events. I am getting close. =)

I see others have also taken up the cause as well.

There are others who could give you details why they were excluded,
however, I applaud the WW Efforts to give us !Tre players, some
smatterings with each expansion.

I would love more support, but I think the Evil Writer Dude is
subverting the efforts of this clan's return. =)

Todd Richter
Prince of Springfield, MA
"Staunch Supporter of Clan !Tre"

Hi,
    I've just joined the group and I was hoping to get some feedback
on a little article i've researched.  Your thoughts please.  Thanks.

Mark.


  Discipline wise, the Ventrue Antitribu are somewhat underpowered.
They have four vampires at or above 8 Cap and only two of them have
the full compliment of Clan disciplines at the advanced level.
What's more, the single advanced discipline they are both missing, is
Fortitude, (they both have it at basic).  The other two vampires are
the only ones in the Clan that have all the Clan disciplines at
advanced level; that's two out of sixteen, and they're both at 9 Cap,
or better!  The 5 Cap Ventrue Antitribus are particularly weak.
There are three of them and only one has a single advanced
discipline; the other two have all their Clan disciplines at the
basic level.  Even the 6 Caps are poor; two of them have two Clan
disciplines at advanced level, admittedly, but the third has them all
at basic.  Also, the two 7 Cap Ventrue Antitribus can only muster two
advanced level disciplines each.
  By way of contrast, the Malkavian Antitribus have six vampires with
all the Clan disciplines at advanced level, starting with a 6 Cap and
progressing onwards.  The Brujah Antitribus have four vampires with
all the Clan disciplines at advanced level, starting with a 7 Cap and
progressing onwards.  The Nosferatu Antitribus have a similar amount
of vampires with all the Clan disciplines at advanced level, starting
with a 6 Cap.  The other major Sabbat Clans are all similar to the
above and better than the Ventrue Antitribus.
  As far as titled vampires are concerned, the Ventrue Antitribu are
found wanting once again.  The Brujah Antis, Malkavian Antis and
Tzimisce, all have five titled vampires.  The Toreador Antis have six
titled vampires and the Lasombra and Nosferatu Antis have seven
each.  The Tremere and Gangrel Antitribus are on a par with the
Ventrue Antitribus, with four titled vampires each.
  Additionally, the Ventrue Antitribus only gain titled vampires at 8
Cap, or better.  The Nosferatu Antitribus have two Bishops, both at a
5 Cap!  They then progress through a 7 Cap, an 8 Cap and two 10
Caps.  The Brujah Antis; Gangrel Antis; Lasombra; Toreador Antis,
Tremere Antis and Tzimisce, all have vampires with titles starting at
a 6 Cap.  Finally, for the major Sabbat Clans, the Malkavian Antis
have their titled vampires starting at a 7 Cap.
  So, if you couple the lack of advanced disciplines, with the
relative lack of titled vampires, combined with the fact that those
titled vampires only begin at an 8 Cap, then the Ventrue Antitribus
must be one of, (based on this information), if not the weakest major
Clan in the Sabbat, let alone in the game.