Ok, here is another property: all the records for N<27 are multiple of 3. Does that mean that the tops should alway be multiple of 3 ? JC [Non-text portions of...
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Marcin Mucha
marcin_mucha
Jan 4, 2010 12:50 am
I don't think so, but I don't have a proof here. However, if you consider smaller values of C (the number of colors) the property you suggest breaks at some...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 7, 2010 7:02 am
Thank you James. I really like this problem! Just wondering, were you at all inspired by Gasarch's $289 puzzle? ...
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James J Youlton Jr
youjaes
Jan 7, 2010 12:58 pm
The spark for this puzzle came from Paul Cleary using squares. I morphed it quite a bit in to it's current state over a period of about a week. This is the...
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Al Zimmermann
azimmermann
Jan 9, 2010 5:16 pm
It just occurred to me. If I set up a Contest of Contests at AZsPCS, then James and I could collaborate and set up a Contest of Contest of Contests. Al, who...
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Marcin Mucha
marcin_mucha
Jan 9, 2010 5:22 pm
I think two Contests of Contests are good enough :) Yours could have a different name though. In many competitive activities there are more than one major ...
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Al Zimmermann
azimmermann
Jan 10, 2010 8:10 pm
Interestingly, Pyramid Power is like the AZsPCs Squares contest from 2003, with the following differences: Pyramid Power uses a triangular board. Squares used...
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Mark
mmammel8
Jan 11, 2010 2:48 pm
Hmmm, this is a hard one, the best I can do using my standard simulated annealing approach is to leave 8 rectangles with the same color corners. I guess I'd...
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Jean-Charles Meyrignac
jcmeyrignac
Jan 11, 2010 3:02 pm
The current record is 1 left rectangle: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gasarch/BLOGPAPERS/17x17almost.txt It's probably possible to do an exhaustive search, because we...
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Kevin Burfitt
zaph_torps
Jan 11, 2010 8:04 pm
Actually, I don't think that is '1 left rectangle' - for each of 0,1,2,3 I can see multiple squares created (thats just looking manually) - it is probably...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 11, 2010 11:24 pm
It seems that the contest of contests is biased towards people who compete a lot, rather than those who do well. The top is likely to consist of people who...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 11, 2010 11:29 pm
You are correct. 17x17almost.txt is a 4-coloring of 288 locations, the last location (+) cannot be colored without giving forbidden rectangles. I think the...
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James J Youlton Jr
youjaes
Jan 11, 2010 11:58 pm
Let's say for example that someone participates in one contest and scores 100%. Should they be the CoC leader forever? James * From:...
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Marcin Mucha
marcin_mucha
Jan 11, 2010 11:59 pm
I believe topcoder ranking is really bad for "recreational" contests like this. I take part in TC marathons and have some friends who do as well. The thing is...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 12, 2010 12:43 am
Not quite, because the ratings continue to change after every contest. Consider the following example. Contest1 PersonA 100 PersonB 90 PersonC 80 Contest2 ...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 12, 2010 12:54 am
I had a feeling that you are a TCer :) I agree completely with you. TC rating is not entirely suitable for these contests. In these contests, one might start...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 12, 2010 12:54 am
Oops. Contest2 should be PersonB 95 PersonC 85 PersonD 85...
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Marcin Mucha
marcin_mucha
Jan 12, 2010 1:01 am
Sure, nothing wrong with that. All I was trying to say is that I would hate it if participating in a contest could decrease your rating... ... -- Dwell not on...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 12, 2010 1:38 am
I agree. The only solution I see: before the contest starts (before seeing the problem) each contestant chooses whether he wants to get rated for that contest....
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Al Zimmermann
azimmermann
Jan 12, 2010 5:15 am
... Unfortunately, then any unscrupulous person could boost his rating in the CoC by creating bogus accounts and entering a single poor entry for each account...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 12, 2010 5:22 am
... But wouldn't that boost everyone's rating not just his? Creating bogus accounts should be illegal anyway and such people should be banned from the...
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Al Zimmermann
azimmermann
Jan 12, 2010 5:33 am
It would only boost the ratings of those who'd entered the same contests he had. Also, I think (I haven't done the math) that if the 1st-ranked person in a...
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Jean-Charles Meyrignac
jcmeyrignac
Jan 12, 2010 8:58 am
I think the current system is fair. I participated in 2 contests and got the top score for both of them, but I don't feel that I should be the first in the...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 12, 2010 12:30 pm
... If the 1st ranked person does this cheating in a single contest where he came 1st then his CoC score does not change, while the CoC score of the 2nd person...
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Paul Cleary
paul2cleary
Jan 12, 2010 3:09 pm
There is another approach to this that would solve the cheating aspect and could also solve the rankings taking into account how many contests you enter. ...
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Paul Cleary
paul2cleary
Jan 12, 2010 3:13 pm
Sorry about the look of the list, it was in a table when i posted it including boxes. ________________________________ From: Paul Cleary...
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Marcin Mucha
marcin_mucha
Jan 12, 2010 4:05 pm
They sure do look similar :) So what you're saying is that it is still profitable to submit dummy entries to those contests that you're actually going to...
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Paul Cleary
paul2cleary
Jan 12, 2010 6:12 pm
There are those who have taken a drop in the rankings and those that have gone up, It is biased towards those that have participated in more contests,...
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Dmitry.Kamenetsky@...
dimkadimon
Jan 13, 2010 2:20 am
That seems to work. The only thing I don't like is that your CoC score is an average over all contest scores. This is bad, because one could compete once and...
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Paul Cleary
paul2cleary
Jan 13, 2010 10:19 am
I placed a 'Once Only Guy' into the mix in the 3rd contest with a score of 100 and ran the numbers, his place in the CoC was Ranked 33rd place, his Normalised...