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Re: [uk-scrabble] Re: The Hunting Of The Frivolous Challenge

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From: "Phil Robertshaw" <philrobertshaw@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:41 AM
Subject: [uk-scrabble] Re: The Hunting Of The Frivolous Challenge


The anti-argument is a series of preconceptions led by
> people who mostly haven't. At least base opposition on experience, not
> preconceived ideas.
>
> Phil R.
>

Please don't state as if fact something that is not fact.

Please name those who are leading the argument against penalty challenges
who have not tried it.

I'll give you 3 to be going on with who have tried it and still prefer free
challenge:

Matthew Pinner
Jackie McLeod
Sandie Simonis

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Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:18 pm

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When asked to describe what exactly a "snark" is? Lewis Carroll is reputed to have given at least 5 different descriptions on different separate occasions,... 		paulthomson1389
Offline Send Email 		Jan 13, 2009
4:00 pm

... Because you would be met with the response: "prove it". And this is something it's impossible to do. "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds...
Phil Robertshaw
philrobertsh...
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5:37 pm

... Is the rest of the case in favour of 5 pts penalty challenges really so goddamned weak that it needs to be backed up by something [in "frivolous...
paulthomson1389
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11:16 am

Talking of goddamned and taking your statement as read: There are many things that cannot be proven to exist but billions of people believe, in one form or...
hels
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11:35 am

Talking of goddamned and taking your statement as read: There are many things that cannot be proven to exist but billions of people believe, in one form or...
hels
helenrgipson
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11:37 am

... Paul, Please just try it. The pro-argument is being led by people who've played it. The anti-argument is a series of preconceptions led by people who...
Phil Robertshaw
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SNIPPED MESSAGE ... From: "Phil Robertshaw" <philrobertshaw@...> To: <uk-scrabble@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:41 AM Subject:...
Sandie Simonis
sandie7s
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12:18 pm

... add Karl Kwiatkowskii - that makes 4. Signed, Paul (Tranmere) Thomson...
paulthomson1389
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1:07 pm

Please add me to the list of anti -5ppc games. I've tried it too. Sandie Simonis Matthew Pinner Jackie Macleod Karl Kwiatowski Cheers Pauline Johnson ...
Pauline Johnson
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5:54 pm

... Can I ask what the point of this list is? Isn't this all getting a bit silly? As far as I know Phil Robertshaw has said he intends to put forward a motion...
Evan Simpson
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6:24 pm

Evan wrote ... The point of the list is to refute the suggestion by Phil that only those who hadn't tried it were objecting to the 5ppc. Also by making the...
Pauline Johnson
posheruk
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6:50 pm

... wrote: The point of the list is to refute the suggestion by Phil that only those who hadn't tried it were objecting to the 5ppc. Yet again, you misquote...
Phil Robertshaw
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6:55 pm

Ev, I think this was simply an example of people who have tried 5ppc and not liked it. This was to answer the explicit point made by Phil (on numerous...
matthewpinner
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2:01 am

... Unfortunately I also appear to have to correct people on numerous occasions who make this statement. I acknowledge that some people have tried it and don't...
Phil Robertshaw
philrobertsh...
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8:23 am

... case is that MOST of those against it haven't tried it in a tournament situation. I know this has been flogged to death but I did mean to reply to this! ...
matthewpinner
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1:35 pm

I know of at least 2 people who HAVE been to PC tournaments and did NOT like it, one from my old club. As from my earlier memo, I have tried it - admittedly...
matthewpinner
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1:43 am

In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:38:25 PM GMT Standard Time, philrobertshaw@... writes: As has been argued on many occasions, frivolous challenges are...
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ajsonwords
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7:59 pm

Paul (Tranmere) Thomson wrote ... SNIPPED. One man's snark is another man's rattle. Harshan...
harshanl
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9:26 pm

... Harshan, I'll warrant you not to make personal comments like that against me via a public arena like UK-Scrabble. If you must make negative and/or...
paulthomson1389
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5:41 am

Sorry to be picky - and to keep this malodorous debate malingering on - but I'm sure Matthew Pinner said he'd never actually tried penalty challenge so he...
M&NO'Rourke
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Message snipped ... From: M&NO'Rourke To: me@... ; Pauline Johnson Cc: sandie7s@... ; uk-scrabble@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday,...
Sandie Simonis
sandie7s
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11:12 am

I would like to conduct an informal straw poll on UK Scrabble with respect to the 5 point penalty challenge (5PPC). Here's how it works: would people reply...
harshanl
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11:35 am

... included in those who had tried and preferred free challenge. I couldn't see how Phil could claim those against 'mostly hadn't tried it' when there were 3...
Phil Robertshaw
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1:16 pm

Dunno why this message was so late in arriving - it's totally obsolete now of course. ... From: M&NO'Rourke To: me@... ; Pauline Johnson Cc:...
M&NO'Rourke
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