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Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd

That's mainly because being slow in SF2 doesn't decrease your accuracy
that much as in 1.8

What 1.8 really needed was a differentiation between Attack, Evade and
Block accuracy, the latter because it's logical to assume that blocks
are the main way of defense for slow characters. A system similar to
the one in 2.0 comes in mind ^^

--- In thrash@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Hendricks <notmousse@...> wrote:
>
> 4 is considered average given his modifier was a 0, it could be argued
> that Zangeif is actually less agile than normal, but I thought average
> was about right. So while he may be slower than a thug he was
> otherwise built to PC specs. Anyone that's played SF2 and beyond
> knows that slow characters can compete with fast ones, not being led
> like lambs to the slaughter.
>
> --
> The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested
> in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.
> -1984
>





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I apologizse if this topic has been beaten to death on the list but what are differences between first and second Thrash? Is 2nd an overall improvement and...
Kim Foster
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Jan 25, 2009
10:47 pm

It uses different core mechanics, for one thing. It also strips down the number of basic maneuvers and removes the level-based "style" system; instead, it's...
B.J. Lapham
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Jan 27, 2009
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Also Agility was not supposed to be the godstat it is in 1.8 -- The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others;...
Samuel Hendricks
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Jan 27, 2009
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... From: Samuel Hendricks To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [thrash] 1st Edition vs 2nd Also Agility was not...
Kim Foster
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Jan 27, 2009
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... In Thrash 1.8, Agility was by far the most important and useful stat, affecting near everything (including increasing Option Points, hit chance, dodge, and...
Cathammer
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Jan 27, 2009
6:36 am

A stat measuring your general godliness. Sadly that means Zangeif auto-loses to say Sakura, or E. Honda to Dan. -- The Party seeks power entirely for its own...
Samuel Hendricks
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Jan 27, 2009
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... From: Cathammer To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:36 AM Subject: [thrash] Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd ... In Thrash 1.8, Agility was...
Kim Foster
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Jan 27, 2009
11:30 am

... Well, in a classic RPG, where not all the players are fighters the usual way is that Dex is used for accuracy at fighting (evading and hitting) as you can...
Alejo G. Marello
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Jan 27, 2009
5:51 pm

Thanks for the commentary. I think I'll stick with the 1st Edition method if I used Thrash. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Kim Foster
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Jan 27, 2009
7:22 pm

... method if I used Thrash. ... Fair enough. I prefer systems where Zangief and Balrog aren't useless, but that's me. (Here, there's two Dex-based attack...
Cathammer
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Jan 31, 2009
7:08 am

Fair enough. I prefer systems where Zangief and Balrog aren't useless, but that's me. (Here, there's two Dex-based attack rolls and one non-Dex-based.) ...
Kim Foster
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Jan 31, 2009
11:49 am

One big problem I noticed was that Power Block turned any low Agi character into a non-threat. For instance I made a grappler (Honda and Zangeif mix) while a...
Samuel Hendricks
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Jan 31, 2009
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On a look through it also seems like a lot of manuevers are based on Force+Technique particularly the specials (some of the cooler ones too) which appears to...
Kim Foster
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Jan 31, 2009
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... From: Kim Foster To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [thrash] Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd On a look through it also...
Kim Foster
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Jan 31, 2009
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I've tested the system a little with a couple of friends. I found two issues that seems unbalanced: - Some maneuvers must be tweaked a little, there is a huge...
Alejo G. Marello
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Feb 2, 2009
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... on ... too) ... don't want ... case as ... Proficency. ... contributes to ... nothing ... work out ... One word: Dodge. That said, Finesse definitely needs...
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Feb 2, 2009
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... ones ... -- ... -- ... two "useful" ... a "social" ... might ... we ... Sudden thought on Athletics, though. Why not replace a Jumping Attack's +2 to...
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... From: Samuel Hendricks To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [thrash] Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd One big problem I...
Kim Foster
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Yes, if memory serves he maxed Agi out at 10, gained another 1-2 from style choices, and then upped the maximum from the 'exceptional attribute' trait, which...
Samuel Hendricks
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Feb 1, 2009
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... From: Samuel Hendricks To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [thrash] Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd Yes, if memory...
Kim Foster
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Feb 1, 2009
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4 is considered average given his modifier was a 0, it could be argued that Zangeif is actually less agile than normal, but I thought average was about right....
Samuel Hendricks
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Feb 2, 2009
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That's mainly because being slow in SF2 doesn't decrease your accuracy that much as in 1.8 What 1.8 really needed was a differentiation between Attack, Evade...
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Feb 20, 2009
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... From: Alejo G. Marello To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [thrash] Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd I've tested the...
Kim Foster
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I have a list of maneuvers and the suggested modifications in paper (i made a print of the 2nd adition manual), i need to put it in digital. Later i post in...
Alejo G. Marello
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... From: Alejo G. Marello To: thrash@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [thrash] Re: 1st Edition vs 2nd I have a list of...
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