Anyone else having problems accessing this site?
I note that the weekend tourney at spiders web.
I hope to get to play in one soon.
Merry Christmas to all!!!

Our team at Gameknot.com is alive and well...
Of our last seven completed matches:
4 Wins
2 Losses
1 Draw
Great Job!!

I have been a bit remiss lately on setting up matches.  But I have gotten us
back in the groove.
If anyone from the65thsquare is interested in joining our team on Gameknot.com
just let me know-the more the merrier!
Thanks to all
Nan

Hello:

For years I look for Bohatirchuk's biography, in Russian or English language.
If someone member of this group has a digital copy or photocopy of the book,
request contact with me.

Best regards from Gijón - Asturias - Spain
Luis Méndez Castedo
http://comentariosdeajedrez.blogspot.com

Hello to all the friends chess-players.

We have news in our blog,
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1. Steinitz v. Blackburne
2. The modern chess instructor
3. El GM más veterano

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Best regards from Spain
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Pedro  MC

here is a game between the teacher and the student that was played in 1981 in
the USSR Team Tournament of Pioneers Palaces.

Teacher - GM Panchenko
Student - Yuri Piskov


Piskov-Panchenko
Baku 1981
Sicilian Defense

  1.   e4    c5                (1) - In the given position this move
  2.  Nf3    e6                      is rarely played, and indeed it
  3.   d4   cxd                      looks rather too forceful. The
  4. Nxd4   Nf6                      grandmaster decides to punish his
  5.  Nc3    d6                      schoolboy opponent for his ex-
  6.  Be3    a6                      cessive activity, and...falls into
  7.   g4(1) e5                      a well masked trap, It turns out
  8.  Nf5    g6                      that Yuri Piskov had analysed
  9.   g5!  gxf                      this entire variation at a
10.  exf!   d5                      training session before the
11.  Qf3    d4                      tournament.
12.0-0-0!  Qa5
13.  gxf   dxc
14.  Bc4!  Qc7
15.  Qd5   Nc6
16.  Bb6   Qd7
17.  Qg2   Bd6
18. Rxd6! Qxd6
19. Bxf7+  Kd7
20.  Be6+  Ke8
21.   f7+  .....

In view of the variation
21. ...... Ke7
22.  Qg5+  Kf8
23.  Qg8+  black resigned

enjoy the game as I did, I found this game in the chess book
"40 Lessons for the club player" by Aleksander Kostyev.

Best to all my friends whom I have missed recently,

Bill

Hi Ania,

Thanks for the info about the iPhone applet. This group is a free-and-easy type
and you can initiate or continue a discussion as you wish.

Cheers,
65

--- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, Ania Veillet <ania.thechessy@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am new in this group. I have learnd chess at the age seven and I am about 30
now. I need to discuss some openings and variations time by time. But, I first
want to say "Hello" to everyone and I want to ask, do you arrange discussion
topics on openings? Or you just send notations and ask whatever your question
is??
>
> And a news from a curious investigator ;)
> I am bored sitting in front of the computer to play chess. Yesterday I have
downloaded a chess clock application to my iphone. It is the best I've
seen, since it has a powersave option. It doesn't make the phone run out of
battery quickly and I can even finish a 60:60 game :) Playing in a cafe while
drinking is nice if you have a clock like
this:)                                                                  
> [If you are interested, the name of the app is "The Chess Clock" You can check
it out from this site. This is not the official site, but you can understand
what I am trying to say from here: http://www.apptism. com/apps/ the-chess-
clock  ]
>
> I'll be thankful if you accept me as a friend to discuss chess... 
>
>
> Ania
>

Hi Una. It's been a long while.

--- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, "Una" <unacanta@...> wrote:
>
> I didn't think the Ol' 65 club was still here!!
>
> Una
>

A Yardstick of Chess Ability

After only playing chess for a few months every kid wants to know how well they are doing and how long it will be before they are the world current chess champion. It is natural enough to want to be good and what one loves doing, and even though it does not always pan out that way. Those who hold chess together as a sport/bobby are not the world champions but rather the millions of wood-pushers like myself, and no doubt you too. They play it for the love of the game, and even though most modern day chess computers (and PC algorithms) can take them in, chew them up, and spit them out again in short measure. But no matter. For the human mind can do things which computers cannot do; and even though they crunch data quicker than we can.

In times gone by the only way in which one could find out how good (or bad) one was, was to join a local chess club, and play hundreds of games each year and find out. The proof of the pudding is in the results; not in the wishful thinking and the near misses. Then along comes dedicated chess computers, such as Chess Challenger Ten (the first one which I had – back in the seventies); and so well made – mine is still working fine, and even though one never hardly uses it – but it is nice to look at.  Mine was one of those which never castled :- )  But they were a revolution nonetheless, and even though only considered to be an executive toy by all chess club players.  But even then, and even that type of chess computer, could still beat at least eighty percent of all people that knew how to play chess, or at least knew the rules and how the pieces moved and what the object of the game was.

Then of course a decade or so later there came the phenomenon of personal computers, cyberspace, and all that potential for learning and private study (despite it all being about ninety percent dross and ego flag waving). Ten percent of a hell of a lot is worth having. And then along with that of course came some fantastic chess playing and study material, and websites galore. Now, what would a kid have given for that potential back in the 30's 40's and 50's :- )))) Tis often the case, and as within life itself, that one often does not realise the worth of what one has got until one has lost it. But this should also take into account ones own natural intuition and creative ability without computer chess analysis getting in the way of that and hiding it.

Not that I have ever played cyber chess personally (nor ever wanted to, nor ever will) but I would imagine that most chess takes place in cyberspace these days, not at home nor in chess clubs. And how do you know who you are playing against anyway? Are you playing against Fritz, Rybka, Hiarcs, Zapper, Crafty – or are you playing some honest chess player somewhere?  Truly one needs to look them in the eye over a chess board and a ticking clock (or no clock at all, better still). So, how does a kid asses his or her ability this way? If you play one hundred people who are all far inferior to you then you will probably win one hundred games – big deal. If you play one hundred people who are all far better than you are then you will probably lose one hundred games – and that tells you nothing about your chess ability other than that there are at least one hundred people out there who are better at it than you are, at that point in time anyway.

Then of course there is trying to work out how good (or bad) you are by keep playing your PC program rated at about 3000 Elo. No way amigo; that tells you nothing at all, other than that the computer plays better chess than you do – as yet. Also, the strength of which is relative to the PC in question, and as to what else also might be running in the background of that PC, and all is intricacies.

So, how best to find out? There are two ways. And keeping in mind that most people are not the least bit interested in tearing all over the country in chasing tournaments and wining prizes. Chess is not about winning prizes and gaining recognition from an adoring hoard of somnambulists; it is about playing chess; and grabbing what it has to offer and then giving some of it back to chess itself.

So, one could still join a chess club and play a whole range of players for a couple of years (over the board) – and also grabbing the fun which such activity has to offer, and meeting people of all ages and social `status' and chess ability. The other way is to purchase a medium good quality dedicated chess computer (for its strength never alters as does a PC Program determined by other factors) Even chess players are up one day and down the next – the human factor and moods et al.

So, all one needs to know (or work out) is the playing strength of each of its set time levels, say average one minute a move, and three minutes a move, and half a minute a move etc, and then play it about a hundred games and see what your percentage of wins are. And no cheating – even when you make a blunder, which we all do at times.

This, or so it seems to me, is a potential that has never really been exploited in chess computer use. That is to say take half a dozen of the most popular dedicated chess computers and do a realistic rating of all of their set time levels, and measured against other human rated players (not other computers – for that is largely academic nonsense and bulshit anyway).  Moreover, you can watch your strength improving (or deteriorating) this way for sure; no messing. Any modern day dedicated chess computer (plug in or posh wooden set) will do the job – so long as you know what its realistic rating is on these set time levels; and they now come from about £50 - £300 (or about $100 to $600). That cannot be too bad for a lifetimes hobby can it. Get your parents to buy you one, or beg borrow or – well, no I had better not say steal one :- ) Even the second hand market in them must be booming now. Use your tools well – and your head of course ;- ) A ship needs a rudder and a helmsman, lest it be tossed by the waves of chaos.

Dick Richardson

im cesar1012001 hit me up on yahoo for chess

I didn't think the Ol' 65 club was still here!!

Una

After looking at the recent messages on the Unorthodox Chess Newsgroup about the
Polish Opening (1.b4) and the Grob Attack (1.g4), I thought that you could play
both moves early in the opening. I remember long ago a player about 1800+ took
down a stronger player rated 2100+. The 2100 player got ambushed by a
combination of b4 & g4 early in the opening. I checked my databases and found 2
games where Black won in 7 moves. I do not believe that such a combination of
moves is necessarily bad in the opening. A lot of chess players believe that you
should not burn your bridges by weakening both flanks of the board at the same
time. But in this opening you need not castle at all and can attack from either
flank. We are trapped by our beliefs and prejudices about chess which holds us
back. There is still much to discover and we have barely touched the surface.

There are 2 possible setups for a Polish Grob attack and they are:

1.b4 e5 2.g4

or

1.b4 d4 2.g4

Listed below is a test game where I had setup the position 1.b4 e5 2.g4 and
played the Polish Grob Attack. I had run an engine match with the Polish Grob
Attack between Aristarch and Pharaon with both chess engines about elo 2600+.
Four games were played and both having White 2 times and Black 2 times. Black
won 4 – 0. After looking at the games while the games were in progress, I
realized that chess engines cannot play gambit positions because their
evaluation is too materialistic. Whomever played White botched the position. So
I decided to play a test game against Firefly (2330). That game was really
strange because Black played a horrendous error dropping its Q on move 17. I did
not understand why Firefly played such a bad move because chess engines do not
miss mate in 2, 3, 4, 5 or even 6 moves. Chess Engine Firefly does not seem to
know the rules of development and playing with open files. The program seems to
be so concerned about protecting its g pawn. It should have sacrificed the g
pawn to get the half open g file to the White kingside. There seems to be a
basic flaw in its programing.

[Event "Blitz:15'"]
[Site "Honolulu"]
[Date "2009.10.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nakamura, Clyde"]
[Black "FireFly v2.2.2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00"]
[PlyCount "41"]

{A00: Irregular Openings} 1. b4 e5 2. g4 {this is like a gambit where the b pawn
is being sacrificed for development} Bxb4 3. Bg2 Nh6 (3... d5 4. c3 Bc5 5. d4
exd4 6. cxd4 {-+}) 4. h3 {have to protect my g pawn} Qf6 {trying to attack my f2
square} (4... Nc6 5. c3 Bc5 6. d3 {-/+}) 5. Bb2 {developing the other B} Qe6 6.
Nf3 Nc6 7. O-O {castle to a safe position and get out the pin on the d pawn} f5
8. g5 {I did not want to open a file to my kingside.} (8. d4 exd4 9. Nxd4 Qg6
10. gxf5 Nxf5 11. Nxf5 Qxf5 {=/+}) 8... Nf7 {-/+} 9. h4 {have to protect the g
pawn} (9. d4 e4 10. d5 Qg6 {-/+}) 9... e4 10. Nd4 Nxd4 11. Bxd4 Bf8 {protecting
the g pawn, probably because of its materialistic evaluation  which is flawed}
12. d3 {putting the pressure on the e pawn} h6 13. g6 {forced because I cannot
play gxh6 because it would open the h file} Qxg6 14. dxe4 fxe4 15. Nc3 {White
has achieved full development  whereas Black is still undeveloped and without
open lines.} d6 (15... Qh5 16. Nxe4 Qxh4 17. Qd3 {-/+}) 16. Nxe4 (16. Nd5 {!? is
an interesting alternative} Kd8 17. Qd2 {=}) 16... Bh3 (16... Be7 17. Qd3 Qg4
18. h5 {-/+}) 17. Ng3 {=/+ again forced to prevent checkmate} Qxg3 {??  ruins a
clearly superior position, I did not understand why Firefly played this lemon
move. Chess engines do not normally miss mate in 2, 3, 4, 5 or even 6 moves.}
({better is} 17... Bxg2 {was necessary} 18. Kxg2 O-O-O {-/+}) 18. fxg3 {+-} Bxg2
19. Kxg2 Nd8 (19... d5 {cannot undo what has already been done} 20. e4 O-O-O 21.
Rxf7 {+-}) 20. Qd3 {Black cannot cover the g6 square because White intends to
play Qg6+} Nc6 21. Qg6+ (21. Qg6+ Kd8 22. Bxg7 {+-}) 1-0

Listed below is the same game without notes.

[Event "Blitz:15'"]
[Site "Honolulu"]
[Date "2009.10.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nakamura, Clyde"]
[Black "FireFly v2.2.2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00"]
[Annotator "Polish Grob Attack"]
[PlyCount "41"]

1. b4 e5 2. g4 Bxb4 3. Bg2 Nh6 4. h3 Qf6 5. Bb2 Qe6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. O-O f5 8. g5
Nf7 9. h4 e4 10. Nd4 Nxd4 11. Bxd4 Bf8 12. d3 h6 13. g6 Qxg6 14. dxe4 fxe4 15.
Nc3 d6 16. Nxe4 Bh3 17. Ng3 Qxg3 18. fxg3 Bxg2 19. Kxg2 Nd8 20. Qd3 Nc6 21. Qg6+
1-0

Thanks for posting this message. Marshall could very well been
sick from the nite before from binge drinking.

Best Regards
Clyde Nakamura


--- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, "Max Jasper" <mxjasper@...> wrote:
>
> Frank                            James Marshall
> vs.
> Carlos Torre
> en route to America from                            Baden-Baden
> Marshall and Torre likely played a large number
> of offhand games. The following game is suggestive of
> how tactically interesting these encounters may have
> been. It was played on their way together across the
> Atlantic by ship (the only way to travel in 1924) on
> their way to the Baden-Baden tournament.
>
> Torre's                            "Two Knights Tango" has invited
> Marshall's                            pawns to advance with the
> potential to weaken his dark                            squares. How did
> Torre begin an attack on those squares                            to
> quickly win?
>
> It appears that aboard the ship during this game, Marshall still had his
> hang-over from the previous night of binge drinking!!
>
>
>
>
> --- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, "Clyde Nakamura" <cjnakamura1@>
> wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > I was quite stunned by this 7 move win by Carlos Torre over Frank J.
> Marshall in 1925.  I could not understand how a Grandmaster strength
> player such as Marshall could lose so quickly in the opening. This game
> seems like a standard trap in the Mexican Defense.
> >
> > [Event "New YorkBremen"]
> > [Site "?"]
> > [Date "1925.??.??"]
> > [Round "?"]
> > [White "Marshall, Frank J"]
> > [Black "Torre, Carlos"]
> > [Result "0-1"]
> > [ECO "A50"]
> > [PlyCount "14"]
> > [EventDate "1925.??.??"]
> >
> > 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 Nc6 3. d5 Ne5 4. b3 e6 5. Bb2 Bb4+ 6. Nd2 Ne4 7. Bc1
> Qf6 0-1
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Clyde Nakamura
> >
>

I am not sure what the latest Fritz program is but Fritz is an excellent chess
program. It has a database capability which can access
databases of over a million chess games in pgn, cbh or compressed cbv
chessbase format. You can get those games free online. Also Fritz has
the capability or loading different chess engines. These engines range in
strength from very weak to very strong (gm strength). These chess engines are
either free or commercial. Fritz comes already loaded with various chess
engines. I like to test my gambit openings
against the chess engines called Firefly (2330) or Drunken Master
(2205) because I have a chance of beating either chess engine.
You can set odds mode against Fritz where you give the program less time than
your time. For chess engines please look at my article on
Chess Engine Update at www.chessville.com under my column called
"The Search for Dragons and Mythical Chess Openings". You could buy
a lower version of Fritz from a computer store for under $30.

Best Regards
Clyde Nakamura

--- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, "agoldman16" <aaron_goldman1@...> wrote:
>
> I am an advanced beginner with limited on time (thanks to work) and enjoy
taking in quick games of chess.  I enjoy Chessmaster, but have found that the
computer opennings for the 1200 rankings are unusual.  I don't think they even
know about the Ruy Lopez.  Has anybody played the newest Fritz?  Is this a good
program to improve my playing?
>
> thank you
>

You are welcome to join in the friendly tournament. I think this is the link:
http://games.yahoo.com/games/ante?room=chess_adv_uk&prof;_id=chat_pf_1

Anyone can confirm attendance?

--- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, daviddixon165@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Is there going to be a tournament on Saturday 5th September? I'd love to
enter, I have not played competative chess for 15 years. I would say I was a
good intermediate player.
>
>
>
> --- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > Reminder from: the65thsquare Yahoo! Group
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> >
> > Weekend Tournament at The Spider's Web
> > Saturday August 1, 2009
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> > (This event repeats every month on the first Saturday.)
> > Location:
http://games.yahoo.com/games/ante?room=chess_adv_uk&prof;_id=chat_pf_1
> >
> > Notes:
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> >
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Is there going to be a tournament on Saturday 5th September? I'd love to enter,
I have not played competative chess for 15 years. I would say I was a good
intermediate player.



--- In the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com, the65thsquare@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: the65thsquare Yahoo! Group
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the65thsquare/cal
>
> Weekend Tournament at The Spider's Web
> Saturday August 1, 2009
> 3:00 pm - 5:00 pm
> (This event repeats every month on the first Saturday.)
> Location:
http://games.yahoo.com/games/ante?room=chess_adv_uk&prof;_id=chat_pf_1
>
> Notes:
> Weekend Tournament at The Spiders Web 3 - 5PM EST
> Spiders Web:
> http://games.yahoo.com/games/ante?room=chess_adv_uk&prof;_id=chat_pf_1
>
> Local Time Zones
> 09:00 Samoa
> 12:00 PDT
> 13:00 MST
> 14:00 CST
> 15:00 EST
> 20:00 GMT
> 21:00 CET
> 08.00 Marshall Islands
>
>
> All Rights Reserved
>  Copyright © 2009
>  Yahoo! Inc.
>  http://www.yahoo.com
>
> Privacy Policy:
>  http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
>
> Terms of Service:
>  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

I am an advanced beginner with limited on time (thanks to work) and enjoy taking
in quick games of chess.  I enjoy Chessmaster, but have found that the computer
opennings for the 1200 rankings are unusual.  I don't think they even know about
the Ruy Lopez.  Has anybody played the newest Fritz?  Is this a good program to
improve my playing?

thank you

Hello to the chess-players:

We have two new articles in our blog.
http://comentariosdeajedrez.blogspot.com

1. Fischer read Steinitz

2. A lesson in defense

We wait for your opinions.

Best regards from Gijón - Asturias - Spain

Luis MC
Pedro MC

Hello:

I need information about the writer of chess Richard Nevil Coles, " Dinamyc
chess ". Biographical information. Can they help me?
Thank you

My wife has applied for a grant from Dell to help with chess coaching for her
classroom.  I thought you all might like to support her.  The recipients are
chosen through an online voting process.  So if you go to:
http://www.weareteachers.com/web/weareteachers/dlvote

You can vote for her chess project on page 15 under the last name Nestor.  She
is also in the top 15 so you can look for her name there. Thanks for your help!

Kale

LatestChess :- Hello Mark, Weare glad to have you on LatestChess. Could you please tell our readers about the2009 SA Open Chess tournament? Did you face any problems while getting approvalfrom FIDE for the online FIDE rated event?
Mark Levitt :- Thanks for the chance to chat to you!

ChessCube does not normally sponsor chess events, but we were very interested totest the concept of multi-location events. When I was at the Fide Congress atDresden 2008, I had the opportunity to propose the concept to Stewart Reuben.Stewart explained that it was not FIDE policy to rate Internet-based games. Heraised a number of issues that we would have to deal with, such as FIDE-mandatedarbiters at each venue; methods to deal with disconnections of players; serverdowntime; touch-move and mouse-slips, amongst many others. Nevertheless, Stewartwas incredibly helpful and introduced us to the key people in FIDE that wouldadvise us.

we were interested in the concept of multi-location events ...

We also had to make a number of changes to oursystems to ensure the success of this event. We changed a number of rules forthese types of game, such as no automatic threefold repetition or 50-move-ruledraws; a call arbiter button that logged the timestamp of any claim for allplayers and spectators to see; controls for arbiters to reset settings such astime during the game. FIDE would have preferred us to integrate into a sensoryboard such as the DGT system, but due to the lack of time we used a standardboard next to a screen where the players first make the move on the board andthen on the screen. In time trouble the players could switch to screen only. Wealso had a few helpers available, under the guidance of the arbiter, to make themoves for any players unwilling or unable to use the Internet system.

Ultimately FIDE agreed to rate the event, but they said that for now such anevent can not be used for any FIDE norms.

Ultimately FIDE agreed to rate the event ...