Cliff, I would go to Weird Realms where you can find a list of everything
Tekumel and how many at what time.

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, camcleod2001 <cmcleod@...> wrote:


From: camcleod2001 <cmcleod@...>
Subject: [tekumel] The Imperial Military Journal
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:13 PM


 



Noticed these two documents on e-bay:
http://cgi.ebay. com/LOT-009- Tekumel-The- Imperial- Military- Journal-v-
II-n-1_W0QQitemZ 310182257134QQcm dZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_
0?hash=item48384 da1ee

http://cgi.ebay. com/LOT-010- Tekumel-The- Imperial- Military- Journal-v-
II-n-2_W0QQitemZ 310182257372QQcm dZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_
0?hash=item48384 da2dc

Can anyone tell me more about them??
Are they the results of the Professor's gaming sessions??
How many 'issues' were there?
What time period do they cover?
Are they archived anywhere?

Thanks for any info.
Cliff











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True to a point as one would naturally want to get out of the way of one's
social superiors if for no other reason than not to be flogged.

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Bruce Hubbell <hubbell_bruce@...> wrote:


From: Bruce Hubbell <hubbell_bruce@...>
Subject: Re: [tekumel] Re: Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 11:54 PM


 



The Sakbe have three levels based on status. Given it's Tekumel I would suspect
that relative status even within the same level would determine right of way.
After all, taking up most of the room and forcing your social inferiors to wait
by the side would demonstrate who's who visually and convincingly.

Bruce

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Alva Hardison <alvahardison@ yahoo.com>
To: tekumel@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 5:08:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tekumel] Re: Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?

 
probably true but people tend to be herd animals in situations like that so they
would tend to group themselves into streams for no other reason than to keep
from being run down by the lumbering Chlen-beast pulling 6 tons of Dna grain in
a cart. Having studied group behavior for years I can say the above with 100%
certainty.

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Carl Brodt <carlbrodt@grouply. com> wrote:

From: Carl Brodt <carlbrodt@grouply. com>
Subject: [tekumel] Re: Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:18 PM

 

From what I can tell, formal lanes of traffic do not exist on most Sakbe Roads.

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the tekumel
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You are correct about status often determining right of way. Please see my
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Noticed these two documents on e-bay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-009-Tekumel-The-Imperial-Military-Journal-v-II-n-1_W0QQi\
temZ310182257134QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384da1ee

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-010-Tekumel-The-Imperial-Military-Journal-v-II-n-2_W0QQi\
temZ310182257372QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384da2dc

Can anyone tell me more about them??
Are they the results of the Professor's gaming sessions??
How many 'issues' were there?
What time period do they cover?
Are they archived anywhere?

Thanks for any info.
Cliff

How many versions are there of this game??

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-005-Original-War-of-Wizards-by-M-A-R-Barker-1975_W0QQite\
mZ310182254492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384d979c
http://tinyurl.com/yh5cck9

http://cgi.ebay.com/War-of-Wizards-Fantasy-Fighting-Game-boxed-TSR-used_W0QQitem\
Z220508349418QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33575263ea
http://tinyurl.com/ykpjsuh

http://cgi.ebay.com/War-of-Wizards-1st-print-ziplock-TSR-new-Board-Game_W0QQitem\
Z270472863228QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef9705dfc
http://tinyurl.com/yj7e68l

http://cgi.ebay.com/War-of-Wizards_W0QQitemZ250256828776QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De\
faultDomain_0?hash=item3a44782968
http://tinyurl.com/yfbt7sh

http://cgi.ebay.com/War-of-Wizards-1st-print-ziplock-TSR-used-fine-Board_W0QQite\
mZ270481810870QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef9f8e5b6
http://tinyurl.com/yjlogsv

I count at least three different covers in the above.
Cliff

Then I won't bind on that, Howard, but I am going
to bid on the miniatures and the Realms of Wonder stuff.


At 08:27 PM 11/17/2009, Howard wrote:
>
>
>Yes. That War of the Wizards has different art
>from the version I currently own. (I've already started bidding!)
>
>Howard
>
>--- In
><mailto:tekumel%40yahoogroups.com>tekumel@yahoogroups.com,
>Kenneth Oswald <nastydm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Some incredible looking stuff there! I love pieces of gaming history and
> > there definitely looks to be some little gems in that.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM, fschiff <fschiff@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI
> > >
> > > This user currently has some early rpg
> rarities (Complete Strategist, early
> > > TSR and Dragon) including some Tekumel stuff.
> > >
> > >
>
<http://shop.ebay.com/the_collectors_trove>http://shop.ebay.com/the_collectors_t\
rove
> > >
> > > Besides, an original War of Wizards, and EPT,
> > > this looks like the most unique thing:
> > >
> > > LOT 007 Empire of the Petal Throne RARE Errata & Notes
> > > Prof. MAR Barker's Orig. Ditto Player Handouts 1975-76
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
<http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-007-Empire-of-the-Petal-Throne-RARE-Errata-Notes_W0QQit\
emZ310182255951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384d9d4f>http://\
cgi.ebay.com/LOT-007-Empire-of-the-Petal-Throne-RARE-Errata-Notes_W0QQitemZ31018\
2255951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384d9d4f
> > >
> > > Fred
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Continually hopeful there's an elegant line between egotism and cynicism...
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

Yes. That War of the Wizards has different art from the version I currently own.
(I've already started bidding!)

Howard


--- In tekumel@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Oswald <nastydm@...> wrote:
>
> Some incredible looking stuff there!  I love pieces of gaming history and
> there definitely looks to be some little gems in that.
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM, fschiff <fschiff@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > FYI
> >
> > This user currently has some early rpg rarities (Complete Strategist, early
> > TSR and Dragon) including some Tekumel stuff.
> >
> > http://shop.ebay.com/the_collectors_trove
> >
> > Besides, an original War of Wizards, and EPT,
> > this looks like the most unique thing:
> >
> > LOT 007 Empire of the Petal Throne RARE Errata & Notes
> > Prof. MAR Barker's Orig. Ditto Player Handouts 1975-76
> >
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-007-Empire-of-the-Petal-Throne-RARE-Errata-Notes_W0QQite\
mZ310182255951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384d9d4f
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Continually hopeful there's an elegant line between egotism and cynicism...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Some incredible looking stuff there!  I love pieces of gaming history and
there definitely looks to be some little gems in that.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM, fschiff <fschiff@...> wrote:

>
>
> FYI
>
> This user currently has some early rpg rarities (Complete Strategist, early
> TSR and Dragon) including some Tekumel stuff.
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/the_collectors_trove
>
> Besides, an original War of Wizards, and EPT,
> this looks like the most unique thing:
>
> LOT 007 Empire of the Petal Throne RARE Errata & Notes
> Prof. MAR Barker's Orig. Ditto Player Handouts 1975-76
>
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-007-Empire-of-the-Petal-Throne-RARE-Errata-Notes_W0QQite\
mZ310182255951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384d9d4f
>
> Fred
>
>
>



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Of course the three levels of Sakbe road is the ideal and may not occur
everywhere. The one described in Man of Gold consisting of a wide wooden
platform over the swamps for example, and with the food of the Ssu within pike
range of the platform too.

The Sakbe have three levels based on status. Given it's Tekumel I would suspect
that relative status even within the same level would determine right of way.
After all, taking up most of the room and forcing your social inferiors to wait
by the side would demonstrate who's who visually and convincingly.

Bruce

The Sakbe have three levels based on status. Given it's Tekumel I would suspect
that relative status even within the same level would determine right of way.
After all, taking up most of the room and forcing your social inferiors to wait
by the side would demonstrate who's who visually and convincingly.

Bruce




________________________________
From: Alva Hardison <alvahardison@...>
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 5:08:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tekumel] Re: Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?

 
probably true but people tend to be herd animals in situations like that so they
would tend to group themselves into streams for no other reason than to keep
from being run down by the lumbering Chlen-beast pulling 6 tons of Dna grain in
a cart. Having studied group behavior for years I can say the above with 100%
certainty.

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Carl Brodt <carlbrodt@grouply. com> wrote:

From: Carl Brodt <carlbrodt@grouply. com>
Subject: [tekumel] Re: Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups .com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:18 PM

 

From what I can tell, formal lanes of traffic do not exist on most Sakbe Roads.

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probably true but people tend to be herd animals in situations like that so they
would tend to group themselves into streams for no other reason than to keep
from being run down by the lumbering Chlen-beast pulling 6 tons of Dna grain in
a cart. Having studied group behavior for years I can say the above with 100%
certainty.

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Carl Brodt <carlbrodt@...> wrote:


From: Carl Brodt <carlbrodt@...>
Subject: [tekumel] Re: Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:18 PM


 



From what I can tell, formal lanes of traffic do not exist on most Sakbe Roads.

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the discription in the Sourcebook records that their size and colors are less
than males.

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Mark A. Siefert <siefertma@...> wrote:


From: Mark A. Siefert <siefertma@...>
Subject: Re: [tekumel] Re: Shen civilians - what poses?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 4:21 PM


 



Alva Hardison wrote:
>
>
> ... a female, and an egg-fertilizer.
>
I hate to ask, but... how can you tell on a Shen?











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FYI

This user currently has some early rpg rarities (Complete Strategist, early TSR
and Dragon) including some Tekumel stuff.

http://shop.ebay.com/the_collectors_trove

Besides, an original War of Wizards, and EPT,
this looks like the most unique thing:

LOT 007 Empire of the Petal Throne RARE Errata & Notes
Prof. MAR Barker's Orig. Ditto Player Handouts 1975-76

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-007-Empire-of-the-Petal-Throne-RARE-Errata-Notes_W0QQite\
mZ310182255951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item48384d9d4f


Fred

From what I can tell, formal lanes of traffic do not exist on most Sakbe Roads.

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Here are the final instructions sent re. the civilians:

"Figures 10 & 11 - one from each blank, I think. In a simple harness, with
perhaps a pouch. Open hands. These are meant as generic Shen civilians.
Make one into a merchant – give him a staff assorted round globes/flasks/bundles
depending from it. More can be on his crossbelt. Give him another pouch also
slung across his shoulder and a money pouch for his belt. Imagine a spice
seller, a dealer in gem stones, or some such.
The second can be standing at ease – open hands – provide knobkerrie.
Figure 12 is to be based on a description from the Shen army book which
describes an official in a feathered cloak. Basically another civilian type
wearing a long cloak of feathers.
Figures 13 & 14 - one from each blank, Additional civilians without harness.
One can be at ease as per the one described above (see 10/11), the other at ease
but holding staff in left hand."

Howard - The Tekumel Project

PS. pics of the blanks are probably in the photos section. IIRC.

--- In tekumel@yahoogroups.com, Alva Hardison <alvahardison@...> wrote:
>
> diplomat, merchant, a female, and an egg-fertilizer.
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Peter Huston <hamchuck.1234@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Peter Huston <hamchuck.1234@...>
> Subject: [tekumel] Re: Shen civilians - what poses?
> To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 7:58 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> What should a shen be doing?
>
> Threatening to bite the head off of something in his empty hand.
>
> Gesturing fiercely.
>
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>
>
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That is what I meant - what side do they "drive on".

Aren't all those cultures just following the British?

Somebody told me that the British drive on the left from the old custom of
presenting your sword arm to whomever you meet - though it occurs to me it also
means your shield is facing the sides of the road.

What side did the Romans march on?

Howard

--- In tekumel@yahoogroups.com, Alva Hardison <alvahardison@...> wrote:
>
> how many angles can dance on the head of pin? probably on the right as most of
the cultures the Prof based Tekumel on seem to drive on the left.
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Howard <green27@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Howard <green27@...>
> Subject: [tekumel] Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?
> To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 1:01 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Pass on right or left? Or both/neither?
>
> I can't remember if this has ever been covered.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howard - The Tekumel Project
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Guys,

For those that do not know, Wargames Factory makes digitally sculpted
hard-plastic 28mm figures. The initial releases were so-so qualitywise, but
recent releases have improved dramatically.

They have a "Liberty & Union League" which works like Eureka's 100 club - when
500 sprues have been pre-ordered they start a design, when the level reaches
1000 they ask people to commit a $1 per sprue ordered and start the
manufacturing process. (Final price $4-8 - but will be determined before the
final commitment has to be made.)

I just put large Pre-orders in for the following suggestions as they appear to
have Tekumel uses. Note that I did not make the suggestions - the first is
obviously for Mordhiem, the latter I would guess Wargods of Aegyptus.

Fantasy Amazon Infantry

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/BookingRetrieve.aspx?ID=43520

SIZE/SCALE: 28mm

SET DESCRIPTION: Female infantry with a Mayan or Aztec influence. Models should
be able to be configured with spears, sword and shield, and possibly with dual
swords. Need some kind of option for Standard Bearer, Musician and Champion.

and

Ancient Atlanteans

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/BookingRetrieve.aspx?ID=43012

SIZE/SCALE: 28 mm

SET DESCRIPTION: Fantasy human soldiers with a heavy Ancient / Bronze Age high
civilization feel. I propose a visual style that combines ancient Greek and Inca
influences. Figures would have shields, spears, helmets and either breastplates
or scalemail cuirasses over simple tunics. Possibly also greaves and vambraces.
At least 5 multipart figures per sprue, with optional pieces for assembling a
command group.

In their forums, somebody suggested the latter sprue include a female warrior,
which I think would be a good idea.

I have also put in a suggestion for "Atlantean Slaves and Porters", male and
female, who would have an Aztec/Mayan/Incan flavour. It would include left and
right arms for Palanquin bearers.
This suggestion hasn't been posted yet…

Me ordering 500 (or even 1000 sprues) isn't enough.
They want at least 100 individuals to indicate an interest and order at least
one sprue each. That is an initial commitment of $1 with an ultimate cost of
around $4-8 per sprue. Are there enough Tekumel miniature gamers to do that? Of
course, once in production you can order as you please.

Quote:
"Remember, of course, that we need 100 individuals to sign up, not just 1000
total sprues. That's because we need to know that there's a significant audience
for what we make rather than, say a mad millionaire who orders 1000 of
something."

Regards,

Howard – The Tekumel Project

Alva Hardison wrote:
>
>
> ... a female, and an egg-fertilizer.
>
I hate to ask, but... how can you tell on a Shen?

how many angles can dance on the head of pin? probably on the right as most of
the cultures the Prof based Tekumel on seem to drive on the left.

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Howard <green27@...> wrote:


From: Howard <green27@...>
Subject: [tekumel] Traffic flow on Sakbe roads?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 1:01 PM


 



Pass on right or left? Or both/neither?

I can't remember if this has ever been covered.

Regards,

Howard - The Tekumel Project











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diplomat, merchant, a female, and an egg-fertilizer.

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Peter Huston <hamchuck.1234@...> wrote:


From: Peter Huston <hamchuck.1234@...>
Subject: [tekumel] Re: Shen civilians - what poses?
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 7:58 AM


 




What should a shen be doing?

Threatening to bite the head off of something in his empty hand.

Gesturing fiercely.

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What should a shen be doing?

Threatening to bite the head off of something in his empty hand.

Gesturing fiercely.





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A merchant type would be good as well

-----Original Message-----
From: tekumel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tekumel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Howard
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:59 PM
To: tekumel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tekumel] Shen civilians - what poses?

Our sculptor has started work on the Shen at long last. I have asked for
four "civilians" - two with belt and cross-strap, and two without. I asked
that one have a staff. Today he asked about poses: "what do you want them to
be doing?"

Any ideas or suggestions? Any preferences?

There will also be a "diplomat" in a feathered robe as per the Splendor of
Shenyu article.

Howard - The Tekumel Project



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Yahoo! Groups Links

Pass on right or left? Or both/neither?

I can't remember if this has ever been covered.

Regards,

Howard - The Tekumel Project

Our sculptor has started work on the Shen at long last. I have asked for four
"civilians" - two with belt and cross-strap, and two without. I asked that one
have a staff. Today he asked about poses: "what do you want them to be doing?"

Any ideas or suggestions? Any preferences?

There will also be a "diplomat" in a feathered robe as per the Splendor of
Shenyu article.

Howard - The Tekumel Project

I was just sympathizing, Mark - I'm actually all for simplicity, my own
system has very few rules at all.  And Jeff Dee is, after all, the creator
of TWERPS and Pocket Universe, so I know he eres on the side of the simple
as well.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Mark A. Siefert <siefertma@...> wrote:

>
>
> Whoa! Who's ranting? I merely expressed a preference for simpler rules
> and my opinion that the rules of previous Tekumel-related games (with
> the exception of EPT) were overly-complex for my tastes. That was not in
> anyway intended as a shot at game designers. They choose to create the
> games that suited the idea of how Tekumel games should be run. Fine.
> They're just not my thing.
>
> Personally, I think it would be a good move if the Tekumel Foundation
> make it easy as possible for fans to produce products based on setting.
> Let a million Tekumel game bloom and let the fans (old, and hopefully
> new) decide!
>
> Mark
>
>
> Kenneth Oswald wrote:
> > HAHAHAHA, oh my - I'm going to apologize to Jeff for all this crunch
> > bashing! Mechanics are a labor of true love for designers and its a blow
> > when someone rants on 'em!!! I'm an artist and a game designer, and my
> > players ragging on a mechanic is every bit the blow that going through a
> > critique was in my college and grad school art classes.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:58 AM, uni_games
<unigames@...<unigames%40io.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> "Thomas Worthington" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Fluff is a pejorative term coined by certain types of power
> >>> gamers to emphasise what they see as the important parts of
> >>> gaming: min/maxing which is, of course, regarded as "crunch"
> >>> - ie, important and vital.
> >>>
> >> Huh. I clearly have a higher opinion of game mechanics than you do, but
> I
> >> never saw the term "fluff" as pejorative.
> >>
> >> To me, "fluff" has always meant the "nice" stuff, the "appealing" stuff,
> >> while "crunch" has always meant the cold, hard, mechanical stuff. It's
> >> necessary for my style of play, but it's not the reason why I'm there.
> >>
> >> A good set of game mechanics never convinced me to play in a setting
> that I
> >> didn't like. A BAD set of game mechanics can (and has) gotten in the way
> of
> >> my enjoyment of a good setting, though.
> >>
> >> But yeah, people need to grow up and stop denigrating one another's play
> >> styles. What a trivial issue to get all riled up about!
> >>
> >> -Jeff Dee
> >> UNIgames
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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