Fellow clanfolk,

I have opened the group archive to public access, and in a few days
time will shut down message posting and refer visitors to the
Stormsteads web page, to the Digest, and to the main HQ list.

It was fun. Thank you for all the creativity and hard work. I still
find myself refering to the data we put together on a regular basis.

http://mythologic.info/stead/stead.html

of course, new technologies such as wikis and group blogs would make
projects such as this much easier in present times.

Bright Blessings to you all for Sacred Time.

Come the Hurricane!

John

At 10:45 AM 12/20/2006, you wrote:
>Bryan asks whether we should shut the group down.
>
>One problem is: what happens to the archive of messages?  It may be useful
>as a source of ideas in the future.  Perhaps we can just kill off the
>ability to send new messages (etc.) and allow public access to
>everything?  It would be nice if we were able to take an archive of the
>entire group and post it in the files section of one of the more enduring
>groups.

Ha, I thought we had shut this list down. I second this suggestion,
assuming anyone is interested.

Peter Larsen

Bryan asks whether we should shut the group down.

One problem is: what happens to the archive of messages?  It may be useful as a
source of ideas in the future.  Perhaps we can just kill off the ability to send
new messages (etc.) and allow public access to everything?  It would be nice if
we were able to take an archive of the entire group and post it in the files
section of one of the more enduring groups.

Chris

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OK thanks
Hope Issaries the Psychopomp will guide this group in the underworld

Alain
Graham, Andrew a écrit :
>
> Yes I am afraid it just ran out of steam .
> Death by committee.
> Close it if you wish.
> Andy
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stormsteads@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:stormsteads%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:stormsteads@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:stormsteads%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Bryan
> > Sent: 19 December 2006 17:14
> > To: stormsteads@yahoogroups.com <mailto:stormsteads%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [stormsteads] Should we shut down this group?
> >
> > If anyone is still getting messages from here?
> >
> > I don't know about anyone else but the number of groups I'm
> > subscribed too keeps growing, so I'm trying to prune those
> > that are no longer active. However I'm one of the moderators
> > on this one, so I probably should not just quit.
> >
> > I think this group was a nice idea, but it did not work out.
> > For that matter we've never updated to take into account the
> > newer copyright rules from Issaries. I propose that we
> > officially call it dead and delete the group. If anyone
> > wants to salvage some of the information and move it
> > elsewhere they would be welcome to do so.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes I am afraid it just ran out of steam .
Death by committee.
Close it if you wish.
Andy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: stormsteads@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:stormsteads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
> Sent: 19 December 2006 17:14
> To: stormsteads@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [stormsteads] Should we shut down this group?
>
> If anyone is still getting messages from here?
>
> I don't know about anyone else but the number of groups I'm
> subscribed too keeps growing, so I'm trying to prune those
> that are no longer active.  However I'm one of the moderators
> on this one, so I probably should not just quit.
>
> I think this group was a nice idea, but it did not work out.
> For that matter we've never updated to take into account the
> newer copyright rules from Issaries.  I propose that we
> officially call it dead and delete the group.  If anyone
> wants to salvage some of the information and move it
> elsewhere they would be welcome to do so.
>
> Comments?
>
> --Bryan
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

If anyone is still getting messages from here?

I don't know about anyone else but the number of groups I'm subscribed
too keeps growing, so I'm trying to prune those that are no longer
active.  However I'm one of the moderators on this one, so I probably
should not just quit.

I think this group was a nice idea, but it did not work out.  For that
matter we've never updated to take into account the newer copyright
rules from Issaries.  I propose that we officially call it dead and
delete the group.  If anyone wants to salvage some of the information
and move it elsewhere they would be welcome to do so.

Comments?

--Bryan

--- In stormsteads@yahoogroups.com, "Bryan" <bethexton@y...> wrote:
> As the chaotic influence known as 'spam' has penetrated even this
> isolated group, I've changed group settings to 'new members
> moderated.'
>

So what went wrong ?  (he asks after discovering that Saturdays Spam
was bounced and caused Yahoo to stop receiving any messages for me
from any groups, and, form the look of things, from posting as
well....)

As the chaotic influence known as 'spam' has penetrated even this
isolated group, I've changed group settings to 'new members
moderated.'

--Bryan

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I posted this on stormsteads, if you dont want to be a member anymore just email
stormsteads-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

vroom_933340@... wrote:

> hi just wanted to invite group members to a new forum about florida
> vacations.
>
> check it outhere <http://www.floridamigration.com/forum/>
>
> drop by and share your stories and tips, there is also a contest,
> whoever makes the most posts this month gets $50 paypal!

I hope it get eaten by a freakin' huge dragon.

Guy (Hoyle)

Hey John,

I would love to put something together for Thunder Brothers although, at the
moment (4am Eastern Time), I am preparing to leave for Baltimore (about ten
hours' drive southeast of my hometown, Ann Arbor) for the massive Tales of
Pendragon LARP taking place this weekend. I will give the matter consideration
after I return home.





--
Michael Schwartz
raconteurx@...

Gedday Michael

The idea of doing a storm steads background article was first mooted
when the Thunder Brothers project arose last year. A lot of the
material on the website is ripe for picking, esp. the resource
tables and age distribution whatsis. Thunder Brothers already has
two potential clan backgrounds in the pipe - one Kheldon and one
Colymar - so I'd be more interested in the general resources and
population stuff.

I'm ccing this to the old storm steads list - do contributors have
any objections do our collective explorations being summarised for
publication?

And Michael, are you interested in pulling an article together? Its
on my 'possible' list, but as you'd appreciate, I have a few pokers
in this particular bonfire already.

Cheers

John

___________________________________________
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Centre for Aboriginal Economic Policy Research
Australian National University
Canberra ACT 2600

Phone (02) 6125 0649
Visit CAEPR on the web at http://www.anu.edu.au/caepr/

Hey folks,

Way back at the beginning of this project I posted a number of Clan
Creation Questionnaires (representing the evolution of said document
from Robin's original to its eventual published form). Due to a drive
crash last week, I lost all those files, and I was hoping someone here
might still have them and could forward them to me. I need the RTFs if
at all possible, as I am using an antiquated version of Microsoft Word
which cannot read current Word docs.

Thanks in advance,


Michael Richard Schwartz | Language is my playground,
<raconteurx@...> | and words, its slides and
Ann Arbor, Michigan  USA | swingsets. -- yours truly

Gedday Bob

I'd suggest you have a look at the Stormsteads website, and the work done to
date on Swenstead.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/pipnjim/stead/stead.html

You will notice that many sections have simply 'EXPAND' written after the
heading. If one attracts your interest, drop a line to the list and go for
it. :)

Cheers

John

____________________________________________
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Questlines: http://home.iprimus.com.au/pipnjim/questlines/

You want to climb the ladder
You want to see forever
You want to go out Friday
And you want to go forever.
And you want to cross your dna
To cross your dna with something reptile.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Slaughter" <rslau@...>
To: <stormsteads@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [stormsteads] Digest Number 78


>
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 21:11:39 +1000
> >    From: "John Hughes" <nysalor@...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Another lurker delurks
> >
> > Gedday to Andy and all of our new members
> >
> > As you have probably noticed, the stormsteads project is pretty much in
> > abeyance at the moment, though individual work is continuing and there
is a
> > strong possibility that some of the group's work will feature in
'Thunder
> > Brothers' later this year.
>
> I'd like to actually help do some 'Stormsteads' work. Is there a 'to-do'
list
> somewhere?
>
> I'm reading "Thunder Rebels" (again), and having an example stead or three
> would be most helpful.
>
>
> --
> Bob Slaughter, rslau@...     http://www.mindspring.com/~rslau/
> North Georgia Modurail: http://www.mindspring.com/~rslau/ngm/
> In which language of the world does the word 'taxi' mean "I cannot drive"?
> e'osai ko sarji la lojban fo lonu pilno -- http://www.lojban.org/
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 21:11:39 +1000
>    From: "John Hughes" <nysalor@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Another lurker delurks
>
> Gedday to Andy and all of our new members
>
> As you have probably noticed, the stormsteads project is pretty much in
> abeyance at the moment, though individual work is continuing and there is a
> strong possibility that some of the group's work will feature in 'Thunder
> Brothers' later this year.

I'd like to actually help do some 'Stormsteads' work. Is there a 'to-do' list
somewhere?

I'm reading "Thunder Rebels" (again), and having an example stead or three
would be most helpful.


--
Bob Slaughter, rslau@...     http://www.mindspring.com/~rslau/
North Georgia Modurail: http://www.mindspring.com/~rslau/ngm/
In which language of the world does the word 'taxi' mean "I cannot drive"?
e'osai ko sarji la lojban fo lonu pilno -- http://www.lojban.org/

Gedday to Andy and all of our new members

As you have probably noticed, the stormsteads project is pretty much in
abeyance at the moment, though individual work is continuing and there is a
strong possibility that some of the group's work will feature in 'Thunder
Brothers' later this year.

If you'd like to discuss Heortling adultery, or indeed any other aspect of a
Heortling campaign, might I suggest you sign on to the Heroquest RPG mailing
list at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeroQuest-RPG/?yguid=111176732


Most members of this list - and many other Gloranthan gamers - are active
members of  that lively and informative list.

Cheers

John

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Argrath, Iron-quester,
    First among heroes,
Slew with the sword edge,
          the spear point, the spell.
Vanquished the Red Ones, brake we their life-wall,
Hacked through the crescent ring,
hewed through the shield.

- The Ten Sorrows of Alda Chur.




----- Original Message -----
From: "aweill2002" <aweill@...>
To: <stormsteads@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:41 AM
Subject: [stormsteads] Re: Another lurker delurks


--- In stormsteads@yahoogroups.com, Olle Jonsson <olleolleolle@h...>
wrote:
>
> I have only one question about Heortling life just now. My
character is
> rather naïve and can't handle the concept that his wife might be
> unfaithful to him. It just won't compute, "naaah, she wouldn't do
that,
> she likes me". As a player I am interested in a subplot about
jealousy
> (which Wordnet defines as "zealous vigilance", hehe). How is
Heortling
> fidelity handled in your campaign? Are there social penalties? For
whom
> is it OK to sleep in his neighbor's bed?
>
In my campaigns, it depends on many things, particularly the level
of the marriage contract.  Infidelity has many possible
ramifications.  A major issue is whether the infidelity predated the
marriage, which can cause all sorts of problems, since perhaps the
wedding was improper in the first place, and the gifts may be
demanded back.  The sexual aspect is much less important than other
aspects.  Thus, a host who seduces a guest's wife has violated
hospitality, which is much more a wrong than the seduction itself.
Also, the risk of pregnancy and the issues of bloodline must be
considered.  As I play it, Orlanthi are lusty and occasional
infidelity is not seen as threatening the social order.  And many
Orlanthi stories are about amorous adventures -- usually about the
successful Orlanthi wooing and conquest of the daughter of some
disliked outsider's wife.

Andy Weill

--- In stormsteads@yahoogroups.com, Olle Jonsson <olleolleolle@h...>
wrote:
>
> I have only one question about Heortling life just now. My
character is
> rather naïve and can't handle the concept that his wife might be
> unfaithful to him. It just won't compute, "naaah, she wouldn't do
that,
> she likes me". As a player I am interested in a subplot about
jealousy
> (which Wordnet defines as "zealous vigilance", hehe). How is
Heortling
> fidelity handled in your campaign? Are there social penalties? For
whom
> is it OK to sleep in his neighbor's bed?
>
In my campaigns, it depends on many things, particularly the level
of the marriage contract.  Infidelity has many possible
ramifications.  A major issue is whether the infidelity predated the
marriage, which can cause all sorts of problems, since perhaps the
wedding was improper in the first place, and the gifts may be
demanded back.  The sexual aspect is much less important than other
aspects.  Thus, a host who seduces a guest's wife has violated
hospitality, which is much more a wrong than the seduction itself.
Also, the risk of pregnancy and the issues of bloodline must be
considered.  As I play it, Orlanthi are lusty and occasional
infidelity is not seen as threatening the social order.  And many
Orlanthi stories are about amorous adventures -- usually about the
successful Orlanthi wooing and conquest of the daughter of some
disliked outsider's wife.

Andy Weill

> I just wanted to post a quick "hello, I'm here" rather than just
> silently lurking.
Well, why don't I just do the same.

I am Olle, son of Anders, son of Nathanael[1]. I reside in Malmö, Sweden
and play a poetic Destor-devoted weaponthane in Hero Wars on a fairly
regular basis. (Yesterday I tried some King of Dragon Pass with my GM,
and it seemed great. He has restricted us players from learning about
Heortling life outside roleplaying sessions, so that our experience and
attitude would be shaped in-game, not from reading someone else's words
in some book. Or even, Orlanth forbid, a computer game.)

I am interested in the Stormsteads project as a Heortling player and
(for what it's worth) I think it looks good.

I have only one question about Heortling life just now. My character is
rather naïve and can't handle the concept that his wife might be
unfaithful to him. It just won't compute, "naaah, she wouldn't do that,
she likes me". As a player I am interested in a subplot about jealousy
(which Wordnet defines as "zealous vigilance", hehe). How is Heortling
fidelity handled in your campaign? Are there social penalties? For whom
is it OK to sleep in his neighbor's bed?

cheers,
    and thanks in advance
    Olle
    Malmö, Sweden

Note:
[1] How many generations can you spit out at moment's notice? I tried,
but failed to even remember more than my own grandfather. Sad, that.

I just wanted to post a quick "hello, I'm here" rather than just
silently lurking.  I've been doing Glorantha gaming for awhile and
some of you might have seen posts from me on other lists.

Gerald Bosch

--- In stormsteads@yahoogroups.com, Bryan Thexton <bethexton@y...>
wrote:
> More specifically, very little has happened that was particularly
>aimed towards publication.
>

This is true...

> In addition, the more useful chunks are already up on the web,
> albeit not at Issaries site.

As is this - I certainly don't think it is worth duplicating the
information on the II site - Maybe a link from the "Sartarite Tribe"
pages to attract anyone looking for more information ?

>
> The people who came were almost all just wondering what it was all
> about

I turned up to see what the "presentation" was all about myself!

> I did put a fair bit of thought into what the stormsteads project
> was all about, and I will try and put together a post to see if
> others agree, but I need to re-connect with those thoughts and
> write it out when I have more time than during lunch at work (where
> I am now).

Possibly a (short  ~ 1page) Moonrites2 article could be constructed
out of this?  Giving our aims, and maybe a broad overview of what we
have achieved, together with the address for this goup and the url
for John's Stormsteads web pages, together with an invitation for
anyone who feels they can add anything to pitch in with what they've
got to offer...

Ummm, maybe.  More likely not quite yet.  Not much has happened in the
last five months.

More specifically, very little has happened that was particularly aimed
towards publication.

In addition, the more useful chunks are already up on the web, albeit
not at Issaries site.

As for the talk at Gloranthacon, the first surprise was that some
people came, which I hadn't actually expected.  In the spirit of
stormsteads I didn't have a formal presentation, but did it more off
the cuff (in a voice somewhat raspy from having just gone through five
hours of yacking in the freeform).

The people who came were almost all just wondering what it was all
about, so I don't have much useful to report back to the group--i.e. it
was not a brainstorming presentation.  I did extend invitations to
people to joint the group.

I did put a fair bit of thought into what the stormsteads project was
all about, and I will try and put together a post to see if others
agree, but I need to re-connect with those thoughts and write it out
when I have more time than during lunch at work (where I am now).

--Bryan
--- "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...> wrote:
> Folks;
>
> We've been talking and discussing for over a year now.
>
> Do we think that there's something that could be put together for
> either
> the Issaries website or for MoonRites II - especially in light of the
> StormStead talk at the convention. Bryan, could you report on this?
>
> I think I'd like to see all the discussion put to fruitful work.
>
> Jeff
>
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Folks;

We've been talking and discussing for over a year now.

Do we think that there's something that could be put together for either
the Issaries website or for MoonRites II - especially in light of the
StormStead talk at the convention. Bryan, could you report on this?

I think I'd like to see all the discussion put to fruitful work.

Jeff

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Phone: (416) 215-7683
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Ian Cooper wrote:
>
> Dragon Pass is littered with gods bones so probably
> has a range of deposits. But note, when I last checked
> with Greg for Kerofinela, there is no iron in Dragon
> Pass.
>

No iron, Hmmm, not even at Dwarf Mine?
so where is the nearest source of iron
or is the only heortling source heroquesting?

Cheers,
Mick

Mick asked John:

>> (I've explored Humakt and yew trees (a traditional
>> 'death' tree) a little in Helden).

> is this on your web page?

Helden - Fires of Mist & Wind-blown Snow is on Questlines:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/pipnjim/questlines/helden.html

and on Issaries' website:
http://www.issaries.com/tribes/helden.html

Cheers, Nick

--- "palashee <mickrowe.ygmv@...>"
<mickrowe.ygmv@...> wrote:
> John wrote:
> >> Perhaps you'd like to do a full 'translation' and suggest how the
> >> Heortlings view their own trees, >
> Ok, I'll give it a try.

Great!
>
> >> * Tree lore will probably be filtered through Ernaldan and Odaylan
> >> prisms.

I doubt it is just those cults.  After all, you have orlanthi
carpenters and hunters, Yinkini hunters, and many cults will use wood
in various ways.  I agree that Enalda will probably have the strongest
relationships however.

> >> * There will be god's associations with trees, and with tree
> >> powers, that we have little mythic knowledge of at present.
> >> You'll have to make them up. :)

I agree that mythic association with trees will probably be the most
common thing.  I.E. most trees everywhere are "mundane," part of the
normal world, with no inherent magical powers.  Almost all magic flows
from various otherworlds, however.  So there probably isn't much "the
leaves of the oak cure the purple pox."  but rather more, "When the
purple pox struck the pigs, Ernalda made a paste of Oak leaves which
she applied to the pigs, easing their madness.  When the paste fell off
three days later the pigs were healed.  Now when the purple pox strikes
we do the same thing and pray to Ernalda for her blessing."  Similarly
particular cults and sub-cults may prefer to make certain things out of
certain woods (or refuse to use others), or will burn certain woods
during their ceremonies.  "Durev put a knocker of knotted apple-wood at
his door, and it wouldn't sound for anyone not wearing their true face,
and so we still use apple wood to reveal illusion."  "When Orlanth made
his first axe and started clearing land, he made the handle out of Elm
and the head out of aluminum.  However when he went to cut down the
water-birches, the handle broke, and the axe-head flew into the stream,
which stole it.  Ever since the water powers have held power over
aluminum, and we never make axe handles out of Elm."  Type thing (but
lined up with traditional uses and aversions, to give more resonance).


> >> * Most trees will have attendant powers, naiads, spirits or (ahem)
> >> 'tree-shepherds'.

Just about every tree will be in the domain of some power (daimone,
spirit, essence).  However in many cases I don't think specific trees
attract much attention.  For example, the trees on a clan's tula are in
the domaine of its wyter, and it will notice if someone else cuts some
down, but it won't particularly care about the fate of any given tree.
Of course there are exceptions, magical trees, highly powered groves,
jealous guardians.....but I don't think that every time you cut down a
tree it becomes a great magical adventure.  (quick aside to note that
for firewood you want trees (or branches of them at least) that are
already dead, if possible, as this makes both cutting and drying
easier.  And with just bronze axes to work with, you want every edge
that you can get when it comes to cutting wood.  Those who need live
trees seem more likely to have to deal with guardians, and indeed there
is magic to help them).

--Bryan


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John wrote:
>> Perhaps you'd like to do a full 'translation' and suggest how the
>> Heortlings view their own trees, based on your knowledge of
>> British tree lore. It won't be a one-to one translation.

Ok, I'll give it a try.

>> * Tree lore will probably be filtered through Ernaldan and Odaylan
>> prisms.
>> * There will be god's associations with trees, and with tree
>> powers, that we have little mythic knowledge of at present.
>> You'll have to make them up. :)
>> (I've explored Humakt and yew trees (a traditional 'death' tree) a
>> little in Helden).

is this on your web page?

>> * Sartar's forests reflect the Euro-Siberian landscape, having
>> trees not common in Britain and indeed some species for which
>> there is no Terran counterpart. I have a list at:
>> http://home.iprimus.com.au/pipnjim/questlines/florafauna.html#trees

i don't know how i managed to miss this but i don't think i've not
seen this page before, very informative.

>> * Most trees will have attendant powers, naiads, spirits or (ahem)
>> 'tree-shepherds'.

If anyone has any mythlets and powers for the common trees listed on
drop us a line and i'll add them in.

Cheers
Mick

Mick:

> Would you like me to compile a complete list of the traditional uses
> and beliefs surrounding the more common british trees and post it the
> group.

Perhaps you'd like to do a full 'translation' and suggest how the Heortlings
view their own trees, based on your knowledge of British tree lore. It won't
be a one-to one translation.

* Tree lore will probably be filtered through Ernaldan and Odaylan prisms.

* There will be god's associations with trees, and with tree powers, that we
have little mythic knowledge of at present. You'll have to make them up. :)
(I've explored Humakt and yew trees (a traditional 'death' tree) a little in
Helden).

* Sartar's forests reflect the Euro-Siberian landscape, having trees not
common in Britain and indeed some species for which there is no Terran
counterpart. I have a list at:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/pipnjim/questlines/florafauna.html#trees

* Most trees will have attendant powers, naiads, spirits or (ahem)
'tree-shepherds'.

Cheers

John

I had a slight expansion on the Asella and Torkal for
IWs which had Asella's worshippers not just as waiting
for the menfolk to return but also as the jewelry
makers. There is also a miner keyword there though
given the Exiles acceptance of slavery I saw the miner
as an engineer and overseer, not a digger.

Dragon Pass is littered with gods bones so probably
has a range of deposits. But note, when I last checked
with Greg for Kerofinela, there is no iron in Dragon
Pass.

  --- Darran <darransims@...> wrote: >
Greetings and Salutations
> 2003-02-24-1710.
>
> I did raise this point up back in September 2001 as
> you can see at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeroWars/message/8076
>
> and I have stuck some of the responses below.
>
> From:  "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@c...>
> Date:  Wed Sep 26, 2001  2:40 pm
> Subject:  Re: [HeroWars] Miners & Mine workers
>
> No there isn't and I'd commented on this before.
> However most of the
> 'mining' among the Heorltings seems to be taken from
> small pockets or
> deposits known only to the local smith who uses
> them. Mostali also may
> be sitting on many of the good deposits.
>
> There was an okay mining cult in UW #1 as I recall
> but no mining
> keyword. The cult was of a son and daughter of
> Asrelia and Gustbran,
> IIRC. The men did the mining and the women ran the
> extraction and
> appeasement side.
>
> Mining seems to be a thread that keeps showing up
> here. Maybe Issaries
> could do a spotlight on mining practices among
> various non-Mostali.
>
> Were I in need of such a cult, I'd look at something
> along the lines of
> a shared subcult or minor cult between Gustbran and
> Asrelia. Or a local
> godling. Most deposits are the site of major battles
> and perhaps that
> generates some sort of magical entitty that would
> have to be
> propitiated.
>
> Jeff
>
> Darran wrote:
> >
> > Greetings and Salutations
> > 2001-09-26-0110.
> >
> > I was wondering why there wasn't an occupation for
> miners, someone has
> > to
> > get the metal for the redsmiths to work?
> > On top of that, what god/aspect would they
> worship?
> > Mostal seems okay but not very Heortling-like.
> Asrelia the goddess of
> > the
> > Earth's Wealth seems more apropriate but comes
> across as strictly
> > female
> > worshipped goddess not one for big, burly miners
> (at least to me
> > anyway).
> > Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > DARRAN SIMS.
>
> From:  "Mark Galeotti" <hia15@h...>
> Date:  Wed Sep 26, 2001  8:06 am
> Subject:  Re: Miners & Mine workers
>
>  In Unspoken Word 1, Simon Bray came up with the
> linked cults of
> Asella (grand-daughter of Asrelia, who fell in love
> with Gustbran)
> and Torkal (her son), as mining deities -
> essentially Asella's magic
> is about finding the best place to mine, blessing
> the mineshaft,
> appeasing the earth, while Torkal is the burly
> miner.
>
> Mark
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