Thanks to Horizon Darts for inviting us down to put on a Stiletto Dart
exhibition prior to their tournament in Kansas City.  Everything went
well.  The feedback I've gotten is that there has been a lot of talk
about Stiletto Darts, and that one thrower actually used the darts we
gave away to go and win a tournament.

Steve Massman
www.stilettodarts.com

Scott,

I've been considering selling my dart tips and maybe dart boards on
my web site.  After reading your post, I think I will renew my
efforts.  If you have experienced this issue, I imagine others have
too.

I agree that the tips I ship with the darts seem to work the best.
I have offered them for sale in my booth when I've had one.  They
were priced as follows:
  -Bag of 100- $5.00
  -Bag of 1000- $20.00
Although I don't know yet what pricing will be on the web site, I do
have them in stock and would be happy to sell some to you at the
above prices, or work out another trade for advertising.

Sincerely,
Steve

--- In stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Gracia" <sgracia@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Sorry for the delay. To be honest I haven't been able to throw
knives for quite some time (over a year) so i wouldn't call myself
an avid thrower. But when I think I am sticking about 70% of the
time too.
>
> I've bought the 2BA tips twice so far and neither of the bags I
bought worked very well. More bounce outs than sticks so I am still
searching for the best ones to buy. The ones that came with the
darts worked the best by far. Do you sell the tips?
>
> There were a few nights I was easily sticking 85-90% of my throws
and it felt great! But once the original tips were gone everything
went to heck!
>
> Picking them up after every throw just isn't so impressive when
everyone is watching :-) (Just like knife throwing :-)
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: blue_light_specials
>   To: stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:14 PM
>   Subject: [stilettodarts] Stick Ratio
>
>
>   Scott,
>
>   I'm kinda curious what kind of stick to throw ratio an avid
knife
>   thrower such as yourself gets with your Stiletto Darts.
>
>   Actually, I'm interested to know what everyone is getting on
their
>   stick ratios.
>
>   Currently, I am probably sticking about 70% of my throws, but
when I
>   was throwing more, I think I was up in the 90% range.
>
>   Sincerly,
>   Steve
>   www.stilettodarts.com
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: blue_light_specials

To: stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:14 PM

Subject: [stilettodarts] Stick Ratio

Scott,

I'm kinda curious what kind of stick to throw ratio an avid knife
thrower such as yourself gets with your Stiletto Darts.

Actually, I'm interested to know what everyone is getting on their
stick ratios.

Currently, I am probably sticking about 70% of my throws, but when I
was throwing more, I think I was up in the 90% range.

Sincerly,
Steve
www.stilettodarts.com

Can Stiletto Darts be used with Bristle Board dart boards?

I've used Stiletto Darts & other soft tipped darts with a Bristle
Board before, although I was not certain that the bristle boards were
designed with soft tipped darts in mind.

The things I like about the bristle board are:
1) They are much more quite than plastic/electronic boards.
2) They hold up well to any abuse from under or over rotated darts.

The bad thing I've seen with the bristle board is that I get more
bounce outs near the center ring on cheaper bristle boards.

I have see conflicting information on internet sites whether or not
bristle boards are intended to be used with both soft and steel
tipped darts, so I decided to get an answer right from the horses
mouth.

I wrote to Winmau Dartboard Co to ask what their stance was on this.
The following was the response I got:
Thank you for your recent query.  The soft tip darts you are
referring to are not made to be used regularly in a bristle
dartboard, the plastic tipped darts are designed to be used in an
electronic soft tip board.  The bristle board can be too tough for
the plastic tips and cause them to snap.

Now, I can't say that I noticed the issue with the tips snapping, but
I guess their stance is that they don't recommend using the soft tips
on their boards (although that won't necessarily stop me).

If someone wants to use a bristle board with their Stiletto Darts,
and would prefer not to use the plastic tips, 2BA conversion points
are readily available in many dart stores that will thread into the
Stiletto Dart and basically convert them to steel tipped darts.

Steve

Scott,

I'm kinda curious what kind of stick to throw ratio an avid knife
thrower such as yourself gets with your Stiletto Darts.

Actually, I'm interested to know what everyone is getting on their
stick ratios.

Currently, I am probably sticking about 70% of my throws, but when I
was throwing more, I think I was up in the 90% range.

Sincerly,
Steve
www.stilettodarts.com

Good point (no pun intended).  Thanks for the input.

I also believe that a persons height, or more appropriately... the
length of their arm is a factor.  People who have longer arms are
more likely to prefer the tip side grip (less revolutions) than
people with shorter arms.  I won't go into detail right now on the
theory, you might know it better than I do.

Some dart players like to lean in on the board (pros & cons are
again a topic for another conversation).  As you can imagine, this
lessens the effective throw distance and also contributes to some
people liking the tip side grip.

Lastly, I think seasoned dart players sometimes have difficulty
allowing the Stiletto Dart to naturally rotate as it leaves their
grip.  It seems to be an easier transition for some people to use
the half spin because of this.


By the way Scott, I'm glad you are enjoying the darts... sounds like
you are working hard to drum up business :)

Steve Massman
www.stilettodarts.com


--- In stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Gracia" <sgracia@...>
wrote:
>
> "it mentions that a starting guideline would be 6-8 ft for a half
spin, and 11-13 ft for a full spin."
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Just a heads up, those distances are also talking about using a 12-
14" knife, not a 6" spike. Everybody throws differently! The notes
you mentioned are just guidelines and it really depends on the
throwing technique/style of the person throwing the darts!
>
> You might be 6" closer or 6:" further from the target, it all
depends on whose throwing.
>
> Then again, I was out tonight giving lessons and throwing the
darts and got 2 new people throwing the stiletto darts and had 2
other male friends interested in trying!
>
> These things really are a great time once you get them dialed
in! :-)
>
> Beware of flying metal!!! :-)
>
> Scott Gracia
> 101 FREE KNIFE THROWING TIPS
> http://www.throwzini.com
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: blue_light_specials
>   To: stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:17 PM
>   Subject: [stilettodarts] Re: Tip Side vs. Back Side Grip
>
>
>   Following up on the Tip Side vs. Back Side Grip post... I've
been
>   doing some reading on various internet sites.  Of coarse, the
first
>   factor is the distance to the dart board.  The proper throw
distance
>   from the face of the board to the throw line is 8'-0" (for soft
tipped
>   darts).  Next, I checked out some knife throwing sites, looking
for
>   rules of thumb on target distances vs. revolutions.  The best
>   information I found came from the www.throwzini.com website.  In
his
>   free e-mail "101 knife throwing tips" (which has a lot of good
info by
>   the way) it mentions that a starting guideline would be 6-8 ft
for a
>   half spin, and 11-13 ft for a full spin.  Based on this alone,
it is
>   reasonable to see where more people might lean toward the tip
side
>   grip for the 1/2 turn (3/4 actual turns) throw.
>
>   I tried going down to my board last night to see if I could
adjust to
>   use the 1/2 turn throw.  Theoretically, it should be more
consistent
>   once it is mastered.  After using the full turn throw for over a
year
>   now, I am having a difficult time adjusting.  Besides, I think
the
>   full turn throw looks cooler :)
>
>   Steve
>
>   --- In stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com, "blue_light_specials"
>   <s.massman@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Hey,
>   >
>   > I have typically thrown my Stiletto Darts using the back side
grip
>   > (also referred to as the standard grip).  I've noticed however
that
>   a
>   > lot of people are throwing with the tip side grip (3/4
Revolution
>   > before sticking).  Enough people in fact, that I am
questioning
>   whether
>   > or not the back side grip is truly the standard grip.
>   >
>   > Anybody care to comment?
>   >
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: blue_light_specials

To: stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:17 PM

Subject: [stilettodarts] Re: Tip Side vs. Back Side Grip

Following up on the Tip Side vs. Back Side Grip post... I've been
doing some reading on various internet sites.  Of coarse, the first
factor is the distance to the dart board.  The proper throw distance
from the face of the board to the throw line is 8'-0" (for soft tipped
darts).  Next, I checked out some knife throwing sites, looking for
rules of thumb on target distances vs. revolutions.  The best
information I found came from the www.throwzini.com website.  In his
free e-mail "101 knife throwing tips" (which has a lot of good info by
the way) it mentions that a starting guideline would be 6-8 ft for a
half spin, and 11-13 ft for a full spin.  Based on this alone, it is
reasonable to see where more people might lean toward the tip side
grip for the 1/2 turn (3/4 actual turns) throw.

I tried going down to my board last night to see if I could adjust to
use the 1/2 turn throw.  Theoretically, it should be more consistent
once it is mastered.  After using the full turn throw for over a year
now, I am having a difficult time adjusting.  Besides, I think the
full turn throw looks cooler :)

Steve

--- In stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com, "blue_light_specials"
<s.massman@...> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I have typically thrown my Stiletto Darts using the back side grip
> (also referred to as the standard grip).  I've noticed however that
a
> lot of people are throwing with the tip side grip (3/4 Revolution
> before sticking).  Enough people in fact, that I am questioning
whether
> or not the back side grip is truly the standard grip.
>
> Anybody care to comment?
>

Following up on the Tip Side vs. Back Side Grip post... I've been
doing some reading on various internet sites.  Of coarse, the first
factor is the distance to the dart board.  The proper throw distance
from the face of the board to the throw line is 8'-0" (for soft tipped
darts).  Next, I checked out some knife throwing sites, looking for
rules of thumb on target distances vs. revolutions.  The best
information I found came from the www.throwzini.com website.  In his
free e-mail "101 knife throwing tips" (which has a lot of good info by
the way) it mentions that a starting guideline would be 6-8 ft for a
half spin, and 11-13 ft for a full spin.  Based on this alone, it is
reasonable to see where more people might lean toward the tip side
grip for the 1/2 turn (3/4 actual turns) throw.

I tried going down to my board last night to see if I could adjust to
use the 1/2 turn throw.  Theoretically, it should be more consistent
once it is mastered.  After using the full turn throw for over a year
now, I am having a difficult time adjusting.  Besides, I think the
full turn throw looks cooler :)

Steve

--- In stilettodarts@yahoogroups.com, "blue_light_specials"
<s.massman@...> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I have typically thrown my Stiletto Darts using the back side grip
> (also referred to as the standard grip).  I've noticed however that
a
> lot of people are throwing with the tip side grip (3/4 Revolution
> before sticking).  Enough people in fact, that I am questioning
whether
> or not the back side grip is truly the standard grip.
>
> Anybody care to comment?
>

There is an article about Stiletto Darts in this months "Bulls Eye
News" magazine (a prominant darting magazine).  You can't read the
article online yet, but you can see it mentioned at
www.bullseyenews.com/print_toc.html

Hey,

I have typically thrown my Stiletto Darts using the back side grip
(also referred to as the standard grip).  I've noticed however that a
lot of people are throwing with the tip side grip (3/4 Revolution
before sticking).  Enough people in fact, that I am questioning whether
or not the back side grip is truly the standard grip.

Anybody care to comment?

Hey,

Check out the article about "Stiletto Darts" posted on the darts411
site.  Here is the link.

http://www.darts411.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=34

The official Stiletto Dart website found at WWW.Stilettodarts.com has
been revised to have information regarding a privacy policy, and a
return policy.

In addition, the method of processing orders has been simplified.  Only
the information needed to process the order is requested.  For existing
PayPal users, much of this information already exists in your account.
For users without active PayPal accounts, there is an option to use the
data collected to create a PayPal account after the order is completed.

Sincerely,
Steve

Stiletto Darts are now available for sale on the official Stiletto
Dart web site at: www.stilettodarts.com

        Sincerely,
        Steve