I'm using an old tooth brush, spraying it, just a litte at the time and
then brush silicone onto the pieces.

Works wery well for both cleaning and lubing, all in one go =)

// Kenneth

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Adam P. Larsen"
<aplarsen@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, this could be a pretty bum deal for us.
>
> My trick is to spray a bunch of the silicone into the cap and use a
> q-tip to apply to the cross inside, as well as the sides of the
> cubies.  It prevents overspray, allows for quick application, and only
> takes a few minutes to dry.  I found that spraying directly into the
> cube wears out my stickers faster, takes forever to dry, and results
> in a temporary "locking" condition where the cube like to freeze in
> the middle of turns.
>
> Adam

which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan knights' z perm.
is that a good alg?


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R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'

DanH

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rabaya
<azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
>
> which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Best? Well, that's a matter of taste =)

Anyway, I'm using this:

M2 U M E2 M (E2+U') M2

Do the (E2+U') as a double layer turn (u') after half the E-move and
it works as one turn.

It is rather tricky t odo the alg if you are not used to it but in
time it get's easy. It's worth practising it until it can be done
fast because there are not many shorter LL-algs out there.

// Kenneth

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rabaya
<azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
>
> which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo!
Travel.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Mine is great for slice lovers...and just about useless in OH.
M2 U M2 U' M E2 M E2

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Dan"
<dan_j_harris@...> wrote:
>
> R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'
>
> DanH
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rabaya
> <azn_invaz1on7@> wrote:
> >
> > which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
> knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Also try:

R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2' U' R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2'

get it right and you can execute it in one big finger-trick.

DanH :)

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rabaya
<azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
>
> which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Arnoud!!

Put me on the list! I surely love to come!

Also, I got in touch with a new cuber who lives in Nijmegen (already
met him there). He would also like to join us. Is that OK?

Cya!

- Joël.

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "arnaudvangalen"
<avgalen@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> On August 12th (sunday) I will have an informal cube meeting at my
> place in Rotterdam. Everyone is welcome from 11 in the morning untill
> late at night. Please let me know if you would like to come so I can
> have enough drinks/food/tables/chairs etc. The address will be
>
> Johannes Meulsteestraat 35
> 3065 HC
> Rotterdam
>

Does anyone still use Jig-A-Loo? Has Anyone switched from Jig-A-Loo to snap? or
vice versa?

I use Jig-A-Loo and love it.

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--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rabaya
<azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
>
> which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
>

Yes, it's a good one. A few other ones that haven't been mentioned yet:

R U R B' R' B U' R' f R U R' U' f'
M2 U M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M' (U2)
M2 u M2 u' S' M2 S

--
Johannes Laire

Do you really use this in a competition ?
That is a hell of a fingertrick. :p

Gilles

2007/8/1, Dan <dan_j_harris@...>:
>
>   Also try:
>
> R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2' U' R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2'
>
> get it right and you can execute it in one big finger-trick.
>
> DanH :)
>
> --- In
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>\
,
> Karl Rabaya
> <azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
> >
> > which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
> knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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As I said, everyone is welcome! I would just like to know how many people will
come. Is this new cuber a hidden talent that will beat all WR's completely
unexpected, or are we allowed to know his name?

I will see the both of you soon,
Arnaud

-------- Original Message --------
> From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:39 PM
> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: SPAM-LOW:  [Speed cubing group] Re: Cube meeting in Rotterdam
(Netherlands)
>
> Hi Arnoud!!
>
> Put me on the list! I surely love to come!
>
> Also, I got in touch with a new cuber who lives in Nijmegen (already
> met him there). He would also like to join us. Is that OK?
>
> Cya!
>
> - Joël.
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "arnaudvangalen"
> <avgalen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > On August 12th (sunday) I will have an informal cube meeting at my
> > place in Rotterdam. Everyone is welcome from 11 in the morning untill
> > late at night. Please let me know if you would like to come so I can
> > have enough drinks/food/tables/chairs etc. The address will be
> >
> > Johannes Meulsteestraat 35
> > 3065 HC
> > Rotterdam
> >

Hello everybody,

I don't know if it's really true, but to me it seems as if the music I
listen to effects my times. The music that is optimal for my cubing is
from a French band called 'Air'; very few lyrics, and relaxing music.

What is your prefered music for cubing? My I am try :).

- Joël.

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran
<perscription_death@...> wrote:
>
> i was just wondering why only gungz is man enough to record the
> amazing averages he claims.

Looks like he lost his manhood.

Cheers!
Stefan

Hi! My name is "Chonlathep Kitsinthopchai".

My country(Thailand) start speedcube for a few year. In this month we
have "http://www.thailandcube.com" is forum and main website(coming
soon).

Thailand hasn't no more people to play but I think we will have Thailand
Open in next year.

Nice to meet ALL Cuber.

I agree.  Listening to music does affect my times.  I prefer listening to
music with no lyrics, or a real slow song.  I seem to get distracted when I
play a song that I know very well, because I want to sing it and it ruins my
concentration.

On 8/1/07, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote:
>
>   Hello everybody,
>
> I don't know if it's really true, but to me it seems as if the music I
> listen to effects my times. The music that is optimal for my cubing is
> from a French band called 'Air'; very few lyrics, and relaxing music.
>
> What is your prefered music for cubing? My I am try :).
>
> - Joël.
>
>
>



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Haha, Stefan, you dog.

On 8/1/07, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote:
>
>   --- In
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>\
,
> Clancy Cochran
> <perscription_death@...> wrote:
> >
> > i was just wondering why only gungz is man enough to record the
> > amazing averages he claims.
>
> Looks like he lost his manhood.
>
> Cheers!
> Stefan
>
>
>



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R' U' R' F R F' U R F' U' L' U L F
Is 2 oll.  I hate z perms.  I'm pretty bad at the others, but this one seems
to be fastest for me.


>From: "Dan" <dan_j_harris@...>
>Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
>To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Z-Permutation
>Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:24:59 -0000
>
>Also try:
>
>R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2' U' R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2'
>
>get it right and you can execute it in one big finger-trick.
>
>DanH :)
>
>--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rabaya
><azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
> >
> > which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
>knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

_________________________________________________________________
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Someone want to explain the difference between these two?
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(qu0b1245oco1wa550wyw1h45)/ProductDetails.aspx?\
SKU=80876
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/snap-silicone-lubricant-11-oz-p-67163.html?\
ref=42

Besides the blatant difference in price...

Jon Choi

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tyson Mao"
<tyson.mao@...> wrote:
>
> I'm going to do some research, maybe write to the manufacturer.
I'll admit,
> I haven't tried much out there, but I will be very sad if I cannot
find SNAP
> anymore.  I bought four cans of gunk, and it sucks.
>
> -Tyson
>
> On 7/31/07, Kevin Nguyen <nerdalicious123@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Why would you want to taste lube?
> > You can die from it!
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Dan <dan_j_harris@... <dan_j_harris%40ntlworld.com>>
> > To:
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:36:16 AM
> > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: SNAP Silicone Lubricant
> >
> > Tyson,
> >
> > It's also possible to identify the SNAP lubricant by taste, just
> > squirt a little on your tongue and it tastes of strawberries and
> > chocolate.
> >
> > Dan :)
> >
> > --- In speedsolvingrubiksc ube@yahoogroups. com, "Tyson Mao"
> > <tyson.mao@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been a loyal fan of SNAP Silicon Lubricant for Rubik's Cube for
> > awhile,
> > > and I was really scared to discover the familiar blue can
unavailable in
> > > stores. I went onto www.acehardwareoutl et.com and found the
> > product, and
> > > ordered four cans.
> > >
> > > I got "Gunk" Liquid Wrench Silicone Lubricant, in a yellow can. I'm
> > told
> > > that this is the same product, but repackaged. Does anyone know
> > anything
> > > about this?
> > >
> > > I haven't had a chance to test out the spray yet, but I know I can
> > identify
> > > the lubricant by the smell. Of course, I would like to avoid doing
> > this if
> > > someone knows the answer.
> > >
> > > -Tyson
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Air is good music to listen to while cubing - both the band and the gas.


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You should practice the one Dan provided.  Very nice.
There are a couple good M-slice Z-perms as well that are extremely fast.
Your alg looks like it would get slow around here...

R' U' R' F R F' U R ((( F' U' ))) L' U L F

... not as smooth as a 2-gen.
and [R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'] is only 1 move more with no
awkwardness.


On 8/1/07, john wardle <fognus@...> wrote:
>
>   R' U' R' F R F' U R F' U' L' U L F
> Is 2 oll. I hate z perms. I'm pretty bad at the others, but this one seems
>
> to be fastest for me.
>
> >From: "Dan" <dan_j_harris@... <dan_j_harris%40ntlworld.com>>
> >Reply-To:
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To:
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Z-Permutation
> >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:24:59 -0000
> >
> >Also try:
> >
> >R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2' U' R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2'
> >
> >get it right and you can execute it in one big finger-trick.
> >
> >DanH :)
> >
> >--- In
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>\
,
> Karl Rabaya
> ><azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
> >knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
> __________________________________________________________
> http://liveearth.msn.com
>
>
>


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Interestingly, while cubing is the only time I enjoy techno music.  I
find fast paced, up beat music with few or no lyrics works well for
me.  Some songs are also nearly impossible to solve cubes by though.

I'm curious how music affects others as well.

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort
<joel_vn@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I don't know if it's really true, but to me it seems as if the music I
> listen to effects my times. The music that is optimal for my cubing is
> from a French band called 'Air'; very few lyrics, and relaxing music.
>
> What is your prefered music for cubing? My I am try :).
>
> - Joël.
>

I'll see.  I keep switching around.  I do the F' that you said might slow
down with my ring finger or pinky with right hand.  It doesn't slow down
much.


>From: "Alexander Goldberg" <ajgold04@...>
>Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
>To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Z-Permutation
>Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:38:30 -0500
>
>You should practice the one Dan provided.  Very nice.
>There are a couple good M-slice Z-perms as well that are extremely fast.
>Your alg looks like it would get slow around here...
>
>R' U' R' F R F' U R ((( F' U' ))) L' U L F
>
>... not as smooth as a 2-gen.
>and [R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'] is only 1 move more with no
>awkwardness.
>
>
>On 8/1/07, john wardle <fognus@...> wrote:
> >
> >   R' U' R' F R F' U R F' U' L' U L F
> > Is 2 oll. I hate z perms. I'm pretty bad at the others, but this one
>seems
> >
> > to be fastest for me.
> >
> > >From: "Dan" <dan_j_harris@... <dan_j_harris%40ntlworld.com>>
> > >Reply-To:
>speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com\
>
> > >To:
>speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com\
>
> > >Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Z-Permutation
> > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:24:59 -0000
> > >
> > >Also try:
> > >
> > >R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2' U' R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2'
> > >
> > >get it right and you can execute it in one big finger-trick.
> > >
> > >DanH :)
> > >
> > >--- In
>speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com\
>,
> > Karl Rabaya
> > ><azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
> > >knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > http://liveearth.msn.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>

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Hi "Chonlathep Kitsinthopchai",
            Thailand is a great place. Happy cubing.
            I am J.Bernett Orlando from India. I am in Bangkok from 31st july to
3rd aug. I am just back from Japan open 2007 in Tokyo where I won 333 bld 2nd
place and 444 speed 2nd place and 555 speed 4th place.I am rightnow staying in
Bangkok.
           If you are interested in meeting me plz call my dad's friend
Mr.Gowriswaran hand phone 0819020760 after 6 pm today.
           My flight back to India is at 11 am on 3rd aug.

   J.Bernett Orlando

unlimitia_ball <unlimitia@...> wrote:
           Hi! My name is "Chonlathep Kitsinthopchai".

My country(Thailand) start speedcube for a few year. In this month we
have "http://www.thailandcube.com" is forum and main website(coming
soon).

Thailand hasn't no more people to play but I think we will have Thailand
Open in next year.

Nice to meet ALL Cuber.






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I use:
x' F R U' R' U D R' U' D R' U R D2

On 8/1/07, john wardle <fognus@...> wrote:
>
>   I'll see. I keep switching around. I do the F' that you said might slow
> down with my ring finger or pinky with right hand. It doesn't slow down
> much.
>
> >From: "Alexander Goldberg" <ajgold04@... <ajgold04%40gmail.com>>
> >Reply-To:
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To:
speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Z-Permutation
> >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:38:30 -0500
>
> >
> >You should practice the one Dan provided. Very nice.
> >There are a couple good M-slice Z-perms as well that are extremely fast.
> >Your alg looks like it would get slow around here...
> >
> >R' U' R' F R F' U R ((( F' U' ))) L' U L F
> >
> >... not as smooth as a 2-gen.
> >and [R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'] is only 1 move more with no
> >awkwardness.
> >
> >
> >On 8/1/07, john wardle <fognus@... <fognus%40hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > R' U' R' F R F' U R F' U' L' U L F
> > > Is 2 oll. I hate z perms. I'm pretty bad at the others, but this one
> >seems
> > >
> > > to be fastest for me.
> > >
> > > >From: "Dan" <dan_j_harris@...
<dan_j_harris%40ntlworld.com><dan_j_harris%40ntlworld.com>>
> > > >Reply-To:
>
>speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com\
>
> <speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >To:
>
>speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com\
>
> <speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Z-Permutation
> > > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:24:59 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Also try:
> > > >
> > > >R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2' U' R2 U R2' U2' R2 U R2'
> > > >
> > > >get it right and you can execute it in one big finger-trick.
> > > >
> > > >DanH :)
> > > >
> > > >--- In
>
>speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com\
>
> <speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Karl Rabaya
> > > ><azn_invaz1on7@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > which is the best algorithms for the Z- perm??? i've tried dan
> > > >knights' z perm. is that a good alg?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo!
> Travel.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > http://liveearth.msn.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort
<joel_vn@...> wrote:
>
> What is your prefered music for cubing?

Same music I get at competitions so that I'm prepared for that.

> My I am try :).

What does that mean? I first thought it's some English saying, but
google found only two hits and one is titled "Hot Shaved Pussy Pics":
http://tinyurl.com/363kw6

Cheers!
Stefan

> > My I am try :).
>
> What does that mean? I first thought it's some English saying, but
> google found only two hits and one is titled "Hot Shaved Pussy Pics":
> http://tinyurl.com/363kw6
>
> Cheers!
> Stefan


I don't know what that was! I was wanting to say something like "maybe
I can try"... I really don't know where that came from!

Funny how most people prefer music with no or few lyrics :). Lyrics
also distract me sometimes.

- Joël.

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort
<joel_vn@...> wrote:
>
> > > My I am try :).
> >
> > What does that mean? I first thought it's some English saying,
but
> > google found only two hits and one is titled "Hot Shaved Pussy
Pics":
> > http://tinyurl.com/363kw6
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Stefan
>
>
> I don't know what that was! I was wanting to say something like
"maybe
> I can try"... I really don't know where that came from!
>
> Funny how most people prefer music with no or few lyrics :). Lyrics
> also distract me sometimes.
>
> - Joël.
>

I agre, lyrics distract me, but only on blindfold solves, since I
like to say what I'm going to do aloud, so I don't listen to any
music while BLD. During a normal solve, I listen to whatever I have.

-Tim

The first one is a single can..
The second link is a 12 pack...

Also, the title of the webpage for the 2nd one is GUNK Silicone Lube,
even though it shows a picture of SNAP...  So I would stick with the
Ace Hardware Outlet one, for $2.79..


--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Choi"
<quirkcorsair566@...> wrote:
>
> Someone want to explain the difference between these two?
>
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(qu0b1245oco1wa550wyw1h45)/ProductDetails.aspx?\
SKU=80876
>
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/snap-silicone-lubricant-11-oz-p-67163.html?\
ref=42
>
> Besides the blatant difference in price...
>
> Jon Choi
>

OK, I got another one for cubeing for dummies! (that'd be me)
whats a "Z-perm"?

(taken from another thread on this group)


--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "segnet3745117"
<segnet3745117@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah... what HE said
>
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Adam P. Larsen"
> <aplarsen@> wrote:
> >
> > Right, pretty much all you need to know is that 68% of your times
> will
> > fall within +/- one standard deviation of the mean, and 95% are
> within
> > +/- two.  It's just a measure of spread.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > SD = Standard Deviation
> > >
> > > I don't have the formula right now, but you can google it...it's
> > kinda how consistant your times are
> > >
> > > Pedro
> > >
> > > Brian Le <khoale1234567@> escreveu:
> >     What is SD? =D
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message ----
> > >  From: Pedro <pedrosino1@>
> > >  To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
> > >  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:35:00 AM
> > >  Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubeneeze
> > >
> > >  Ok...let's go
> > >
> > >  PLL = Permutation of Last Layer (correctly positioning the last
> > layer pieces)
> > >  OLL = Orientation of Last Layer (making the last layer pieces
> face
> > the "right" way)
> > >  F2L = First 2 Layers
> > >  dedge = the pair of edges on the 4x4x4. You have 24 edges, that
> > form 12 dedges
> > >  tredge = the edges' triplet on the 5x5x5. There are 36 edges,
> that
> > form 12 tredges
> > >
> > >  something else?
> > >
> > >  Pedro
> > >
> > >  segnet3745117 <segnet3745117@ yahoo.com> escreveu: OK, time
for
> Q: 3...
> > >  Ive noticed a lot of abbreviations I don't understand.
> > >  Like PLL, OLL, F2L tredge, dedge etc.
> > >
> > >  I see these a lot in posts, and don't understand their meaning.
> > >  this is just a few of them I've seen, would someone please be
so
> kind
> > >  as to explain them?
> > >
> > >  I know that pll and oll have something to do with parity,
again
> I
> > >  don't really understand that one either, other than it's a
> common
> > >  problem on big cubes.
> > >
> > >  is there a cubeneeze Dictionary?
> > >
> > >  Alertas do Yahoo! Mail em seu celular. Saiba mais.
> > >
> > >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >        Flickr agora em português. Você cria, todo mundo vê.
Saiba
> mais.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

a z-perm is a permutation that switches all 4 edges (usually) on the
last layer.  it can be used to switch other edges, but in regular
cubing it usual is used in Permutation Last layer.  It switches 2 edges
that are adjacent to each other (switched in pairs), but retains the
orientation of the entire cube.  After that poor explanation, here is a
picture of it (thanks to Chris Hardwick for his wonderful site and
speedcubing.com)  http://speedcubing.com/chris/images/p3.gif

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "segnet3745117"
<segnet3745117@...> wrote:
>
> OK, I got another one for cubeing for dummies! (that'd be me)
> whats a "Z-perm"?
>
> (taken from another thread on this group)