My resolution is to get sub-20 and to participate to at least one
competition.

Happy New Year!

Sven

My resolution is to attend every 2006 Rubik's competition.  HA! Just
kidding, I would be poor(er).  I did just book my flight to San Fran
though. :)  ZBF2L mastery is my goal (all cases from all angles). :)

~ Bob

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> Happy new year everyone! I hope 2006 brings new puzzles and records to
> you!
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> Happy New Year!!
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Happy new year everyone! I want to be consistently sub-20, maybe do some sub-18
or sub-17 averages...

   Pedro

Bob Burton <bob@...> escreveu:
   My resolution is to attend every 2006 Rubik's competition.  HA! Just
kidding, I would be poor(er).  I did just book my flight to San Fran
though. :)  ZBF2L mastery is my goal (all cases from all angles). :)

~ Bob

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I am back after x'mas holidays. I had a nice time.

   WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY CUBING YEAR-2006.

   My results of 2005.
    3*3*3 avg:-Sub 20 sec was the set target. End result is 21.10 sec
    4*4*4 avg:- sub 90 sec was the set target. End result is 92.xx sec
    5*5*5 avg:- sub 210 sec was the set target. End result is 245 sec.
   Thanks to Mr.Ron and Mr.Stefan and for all the others for their contribution.

   New target for 2006 is sub 15 sec, sub 1 min and sub 2 min 30 sec.
   I would like to compete in all the open championship in 2006.
   I am longing to learn from you all.
   Thanks in advance
   J.BERNETT ORLANDO


Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote:
   Happy new year everyone! I want to be consistently sub-20, maybe do some
sub-18 or sub-17 averages...

   Pedro

Bob Burton <bob@...> escreveu:
   My resolution is to attend every 2006 Rubik's competition.  HA! Just
kidding, I would be poor(er).  I did just book my flight to San Fran
though. :)  ZBF2L mastery is my goal (all cases from all angles). :)

~ Bob

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My goal for 2006 is to get a sub-120 average on the 4x4x4.

Good luck to everyone else!

Peter Greenwood

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis
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>
> I am back after x'mas holidays. I had a nice time.
>
>   WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY CUBING YEAR-2006.
>
>   My results of 2005.
>    3*3*3 avg:-Sub 20 sec was the set target. End result is 21.10 sec
>    4*4*4 avg:- sub 90 sec was the set target. End result is 92.xx sec
>    5*5*5 avg:- sub 210 sec was the set target. End result is 245 sec.
>   Thanks to Mr.Ron and Mr.Stefan and for all the others for their
contribution.
>
>   New target for 2006 is sub 15 sec, sub 1 min and sub 2 min 30 sec.
>   I would like to compete in all the open championship in 2006.
>   I am longing to learn from you all.
>   Thanks in advance
>   J.BERNETT ORLANDO
>
>
> Pedro <pedrosino1@y...> wrote:
>   Happy new year everyone! I want to be consistently sub-20, maybe
do some sub-18 or sub-17 averages...
>
>   Pedro
>
> Bob Burton <bob@c...> escreveu:
>   My resolution is to attend every 2006 Rubik's competition.  HA! Just
> kidding, I would be poor(er).  I did just book my flight to San Fran
> though. :)  ZBF2L mastery is my goal (all cases from all angles). :)
>
> ~ Bob
>
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Hi, new here, but been speedcubing a year or so.

I did the following guide originally while learning Guimond's
method. It is basically a clarified edition, with some added
algorithms and some left away. I haven't gone through all
mostly optimized solutions from the french version of his guide yet.
I hope this helps those who are having hard time learning this
particular method.

After I get sub-30 sec with this I propably start learning
ZB-method. Very attractive due to its 40 move average count.
http://www.zborowski.republika.pl/expert3x3x3method.html

Attached is the guide itself in a text format. Anyone with
cubing sites may publish, add to it and transform to whatever
formats necessary. ie. with visuals etc if needed.
Original guide is located at

http://www.rubikscuberecord.com

For those who don't know, Guimond's method is perhaps one
of the easiest and fastest way to learn to solve rubik's cube,
while getting pretty easy under 1 minutes. And only a handful
of algorithms to remember too.

Here's the link to the textfile

http://f5.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oBi4Q8aYoeeG-8wzBPG0h0uuk_jf3QNEZk-
fPFHRU6PaKfpfbwbEEd9WBP1qMTgiR_GHnuILyPwRODY4EGv9TuJu8ndjHNA/Ga%80%A0%
A0%E9tan%20Guimond's%20Corner%20Method%20revised%20by%20Rikhard%
20Dukes.txt

Haha, i know its lame but i just pulled down my second sub-5 minute
5x5 (yay for a good start to a new year)!  Guess practice is starting
to pull off.  Now i just need to get an average under 5 minutes...
Happy new year everyone!

~John~

Attempt at speedsolving with an old webcam I found. 62 or 63 seconds..
I forgot. I was using a beginner method. It is an average time for me.
I'm tryign to learn the Petrus method now.

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2Y9SI8EMQN0LV0U4O0FRE3RLU6

1.86 mb

Thats a good time for a beginners method. You should try and learn
finger tricks so that you can turn the sides faster. I suggest you
learn that too. Good luck learning petrus!

Peter Greenwood

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thebunze"
<thebunze@g...> wrote:
>
> Attempt at speedsolving with an old webcam I found. 62 or 63 seconds..
> I forgot. I was using a beginner method. It is an average time for me.
> I'm tryign to learn the Petrus method now.
>
> http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2Y9SI8EMQN0LV0U4O0FRE3RLU6
>
> 1.86 mb
>

Thanks. My best time is 57 seconds, so not much faster than that. Even
with finger tricks and faster recognition, without more algorythms I
am very close to the limits of this system. I am eager to learn Petrus
and can get the 2x2x2 block in a horrid 30 seconds.

Can anyone tell me what times are possible using the Petrus method? I
know Mr. Petrus can get sub 20 but he has been at it for years. I hope
to get sub 50 seconds within a month. Is that reasonable?

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann"
<pochmann@g...> wrote:
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, giraffeboy13
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks,  I just went out and bought some softer springs so i'll see
> > how those work out first, if not, i may buy some from you later on.
> > Thanks for all the advice guys!
>
> Can you tell where you got them, how many you bought and how much you
> paid?
>
> Cheers!
> Stefan
>

I just went to a local hardware store (I think it's called town and
country hardware, not sure though).  I bought 8 springs total (at
$.60) but the catch was they are waaay longer than i needed them to
be, so I had to cut them down, I also bought 24 nylon washers yet I
only ended up using 12.  I was able to change out three megaminx
springs to every spring that i bought.  the whole process of cutting
the springs and changing them took about 2 hours total, but it was
worth it, my megaminx works sooo much better.  Thanks guys!

~John~

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thebunze"
<thebunze@g...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. My best time is 57 seconds, so not much faster than that. Even
> with finger tricks and faster recognition, without more algorythms I
> am very close to the limits of this system. I am eager to learn Petrus
> and can get the 2x2x2 block in a horrid 30 seconds.
>
> Can anyone tell me what times are possible using the Petrus method? I
> know Mr. Petrus can get sub 20 but he has been at it for years. I hope
> to get sub 50 seconds within a month. Is that reasonable?
>


I'm pretty sure it's possible, you and i are in exactly the same boat.
  I'm in the process of learning the petrus method too.  Last night i
was able to get a time of 1:02, and i've been using the petrus method
for about one and a half weeks.  So, in a week and a half, my times
have dropped about 30-35 seconds, and granted, they won't drop that
fast in the future, I would bet that sub-50 in a month is totally
possible, but i guess we'll see!  Good luck!

~John~

"Even with finger tricks and faster recognition, without more
algorythms I bam very close to the limits of this system."

I don't agree with that, with my old beginner method that takes about
100 moves, I got down in the mid 30s before I finally learned the
Fridrich method.

I'll second that...Everyone knows that I used to use a bad beginner
method, and kinda still do, but I am switching methods right now...I
used to hit mid-to-low 30s...but that wasn't with 100% beginner...I
learned a bit extra, like 10 more algs to drop about 20 seconds off my
time...so...it was worth it...

Craig

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, metgorubiks
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
>
> "Even with finger tricks and faster recognition, without more
> algorythms I bam very close to the limits of this system."
>
> I don't agree with that, with my old beginner method that takes about
> 100 moves, I got down in the mid 30s before I finally learned the
> Fridrich method.
>

I must say that sub-1 minute average for 4*4*4 as quite ambitious,
but that's how it should be. My prime goal is to get a sub-15
average for 3*3*3 and a sub-30 average for one-handed solving. I
also hope to be among the finalists at the European championships.

We are a couple of Swedes that are practicing 2*2*2 quite hard now
and I will try to learn the 2-step solution where you first orient
one sida and then fix the rest.

I guess we will see a lot of amazing achievement during 2006. Here
are some of my guesses:

sub-13 average for 3*3*3
A LOT of sub-15 averages.
sub-1 minute average for 4*4*4


/Gunnar

-- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis
<pjlmem@y...> wrote:
>
> I am back after x'mas holidays. I had a nice time.
>
>   WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY CUBING YEAR-2006.
>
>   My results of 2005.
>    3*3*3 avg:-Sub 20 sec was the set target. End result is 21.10
sec
>    4*4*4 avg:- sub 90 sec was the set target. End result is 92.xx
sec
>    5*5*5 avg:- sub 210 sec was the set target. End result is 245
sec.
>   Thanks to Mr.Ron and Mr.Stefan and for all the others for their
contribution.
>
>   New target for 2006 is sub 15 sec, sub 1 min and sub 2 min 30
sec.
>   I would like to compete in all the open championship in 2006.
>   I am longing to learn from you all.
>   Thanks in advance
>   J.BERNETT ORLANDO
>
>
> Pedro <pedrosino1@y...> wrote:
>   Happy new year everyone! I want to be consistently sub-20, maybe
do some sub-18 or sub-17 averages...
>
>   Pedro
>
> Bob Burton <bob@c...> escreveu:
>   My resolution is to attend every 2006 Rubik's competition.  HA!
Just
> kidding, I would be poor(er).  I did just book my flight to San
Fran
> though. :)  ZBF2L mastery is my goal (all cases from all
angles). :)
>
> ~ Bob
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09
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> wrote:
> >
> > Happy new year everyone! I hope 2006 brings new puzzles and
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> > you!
> >
> > Happy New Year!!
> >
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I disagree too...you use a working corner to do the F2L, don't you? I didn't
understand your LL, but I think you can be fast with a 3-look LL: orient edges
(or corners), orient corners (or edges), permute all...Joël van Noort told me
that he averaged 17.xx with a 3 look LL...

   Pedro

metgorubiks <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu:

"Even with finger tricks and faster recognition, without more
algorythms I bam very close to the limits of this system."

I don't agree with that, with my old beginner method that takes about
100 moves, I got down in the mid 30s before I finally learned the
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--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, giraffeboy13
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I just went to a local hardware store (I think it's called town and
> country hardware, not sure though).  I bought 8 springs total (at
> $.60) but the catch was they are waaay longer than i needed them to
> be, so I had to cut them down

Is that 0.60 for each spring or for all of them together? And when you
cut the springs, doesn't that leave very unflat (i.e. scratching)
ends? Or did you find a way to get them nice flat again?

Cheers!
Stefan

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "rikhard_d"
<rikhard_d@y...> wrote:
>
> After I get sub-30 sec with this I propably start learning
> ZB-method. Very attractive due to its 40 move average count.
> http://www.zborowski.republika.pl/expert3x3x3method.html

Though... those 40 moves include 18.5 for F2L minus one corner/edge
pair. Which is surprising, not only because he seems to get 18.5 as
6+3*6.5 which should be 25.5 instead. What am I missing?

Cheers!
Stefan

i recently got a 5x5x5 and 1 piece fell out of place a little and I a
popped it back in. That piece is now loose and pops out occaisonally.
Should i just live with it or is there a way to fix that?
Thanks

Im not an expert at solving 5x5's, but ill try and help. Which piece
is it? Is it broken? Compare it to my pictures:
http://www.geocities.com/pjgat09/misc5b.html

If its not broken, I can't help. Sorry. You could wait for Per to
answer. :)

Peter Greenwood

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076"
<bballkid2076@y...> wrote:
>
> i recently got a 5x5x5 and 1 piece fell out of place a little and I a
> popped it back in. That piece is now loose and pops out occaisonally.
> Should i just live with it or is there a way to fix that?
> Thanks
>

i havnt been speedcubing for too long but i get low 30 averages. ive
been practicing the 4x4x4 solving but cant seem to do better than low
2 minutes solves. i think its b/c it takes me about a 1:15 to solve
the centers and edges. i use 2 pair chain solving for the edges. are
there any tips anyone can give me to help me speed that up? and the
parity algs really slow me down. it takes me about 13 secs to do the
edge flip parity and about 10 to do the edges swap one. so again if
anyone has anything that may help let me know.

I'm taking about the same ammount of time as you are. What alg are you
using for the edge swap? I think 10 sec is quite a bit for that alg.
Heres the alg I (and others) are using: r2 U2 r2 U2u2 r2 u2

Hope that helps!

Peter Greenwood

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "washyourmonkey"
<washyourmonkey@y...> wrote:
>
> i havnt been speedcubing for too long but i get low 30 averages. ive
> been practicing the 4x4x4 solving but cant seem to do better than low
> 2 minutes solves. i think its b/c it takes me about a 1:15 to solve
> the centers and edges. i use 2 pair chain solving for the edges. are
> there any tips anyone can give me to help me speed that up? and the
> parity algs really slow me down. it takes me about 13 secs to do the
> edge flip parity and about 10 to do the edges swap one. so again if
> anyone has anything that may help let me know.
>

I just did 28.21 with one hand for 3*3*3. I'm quite exited right
now!!! I can now perferm ~33 out of 57 OLL algs with one hand. F2L was
absolutely not perfect on this solve but I did a very fast LL in below
10 seconds.

/Gunnar

Soo.. I promised to make a video of this...:

http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/videos/hpermutation.wmv


--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard"
<logitewty@h...> wrote:
>
> I'm not too sure either...right now I do r2 R2, pretty slow, I've
> tried different ways but they feel awkward...
>
> Craig
>
> Stefan, can you jump on yahoo for a few minutes???
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann"
> <pochmann@g...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort
> > <joel_vn@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Stefan!
> > >
> > > Did you also try the M2 trick for the H permutation?
> >
> > Yes of course. But there I haven't decided yet whether I like
Bob's or
> > your way better. What annoys me about this alg is that I'm not
able to
> > do the U2 nicely, usually I do that in one motion with my right
index
> > finger, but that doesn't fit in here for me. And I need my right
> > middle finger for holding the cube, so I can't do index+middle.
> > Instead, I do U twice with index finger.
> >
> > The four-edge-flip alg is now one of my favourite algs. It feels
very
> > nice, and the best thing is that both at start and end, I have
the
> > standard grip. And I both start and end with r'. So I can do it
> > endlessly without stop, and I did that (repeating the alg for
maybe 15
> > minutes) last night. I also did it while reading some new posts,
and
> > sometimes when I looked back at the cube I thought "oh damn you
made a
> > mistake" but then a moment later my hands had restored it again.
Well,
> > of course I only saw it *pass* the solved state, cause my hands
don't
> > know when to break (since there's no stop between two
executions). It
> > feels so natural... it's like I'm just holding the cube and
wiggle L
> > and R a bit back and forth, just throwing in some index finger
pulling
> > at times.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Stefan
> >
>

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig"
<gunkr520@s...> wrote:
>
> I just did 28.21 with one hand for 3*3*3. I'm quite exited right
> now!!! I can now perferm ~33 out of 57 OLL algs with one hand. F2L
was
> absolutely not perfect on this solve but I did a very fast LL in
below
> 10 seconds.
>
> /Gunnar
>

I think I meant excited! :-P

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann"
<pochmann@g...> wrote:
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, giraffeboy13
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I just went to a local hardware store (I think it's called town and
> > country hardware, not sure though).  I bought 8 springs total (at
> > $.60) but the catch was they are waaay longer than i needed them to
> > be, so I had to cut them down
>
> Is that 0.60 for each spring or for all of them together? And when you
> cut the springs, doesn't that leave very unflat (i.e. scratching)
> ends? Or did you find a way to get them nice flat again?
>
> Cheers!
> Stefan
>


It was 0.60 per spring so it wasn't the best deal ever (i was
desperate though! haha) and when i cut the springs i was able to bend
the pointy end so it wouldn't scratch the washers away.  It certainly
isn't as clean as if i had gotten springs that we're actually cut to
the correct length by the manufacturer.  Did you order your springs
online or through the mail or did you buy them at a store?

~John~

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, giraffeboy13
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> It was 0.60 per spring so it wasn't the best deal ever (i was
> desperate though! haha) and when i cut the springs i was able to
bend
> the pointy end so it wouldn't scratch the washers away.  It
certainly
> isn't as clean as if i had gotten springs that we're actually cut to
> the correct length by the manufacturer.  Did you order your springs
> online or through the mail or did you buy them at a store?

Ah, ok... 0.60 for 8 springs would've been a super deal. I ordered
mine through the manufacturer's website. No chance to get good springs
for a good price in a store, at least that's my experience.

Cheers!
Stefan

for the edge swap i use U2u2 R2r2 U2 r2 U2 R2r2 U2u2 i think that right


pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
   I'm taking about the same ammount of time as you are. What alg are you
using for the edge swap? I think 10 sec is quite a bit for that alg.
Heres the alg I (and others) are using: r2 U2 r2 U2u2 r2 u2

Hope that helps!

Peter Greenwood

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "washyourmonkey"
<washyourmonkey@y...> wrote:
>
> i havnt been speedcubing for too long but i get low 30 averages. ive
> been practicing the 4x4x4 solving but cant seem to do better than low
> 2 minutes solves. i think its b/c it takes me about a 1:15 to solve
> the centers and edges. i use 2 pair chain solving for the edges. are
> there any tips anyone can give me to help me speed that up? and the
> parity algs really slow me down. it takes me about 13 secs to do the
> edge flip parity and about 10 to do the edges swap one. so again if
> anyone has anything that may help let me know.
>






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Hi Stefan!
Time ago I ordered some nice 2milimeter washers from Skiffy website, a web you
recommended. I recommend this washers too.
But, where do you buy the springs? which is the website? and the spring
characteristics/requirements?
It is hard to find in stores here in Spain...
Alberto.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Stefan Pochmann
   To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:05 AM
   Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Super stiff Megaminx


   --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, giraffeboy13
   <no_reply@y...> wrote:
   >
   > It was 0.60 per spring so it wasn't the best deal ever (i was
   > desperate though! haha) and when i cut the springs i was able to
   bend
   > the pointy end so it wouldn't scratch the washers away.  It
   certainly
   > isn't as clean as if i had gotten springs that we're actually cut to
   > the correct length by the manufacturer.  Did you order your springs
   > online or through the mail or did you buy them at a store?

   Ah, ok... 0.60 for 8 springs would've been a super deal. I ordered
   mine through the manufacturer's website. No chance to get good springs
   for a good price in a store, at least that's my experience.

   Cheers!
   Stefan






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