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#235 From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu May 2, 2002 11:02 pm
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#236 From: rknapton
Date: Fri May 3, 2002 2:13 am
Subject: F2L pages suggestion
rknapton
 
UGH, workin 60 hrs. a week sucks. picked up the cube today... felt
real fast but everything was 40 seconds plus. still gotta learn F2L.
WELL... I see on speedcubing.com it refers to the F2L and says "You
can also use only parts of this system, which takes less memorizing,
but more moves". If any F2L page included a section of the least
amount of algs to learn I think it could be a huge stepping stone for
those who want to learn it.
Happy Cubing To All Of Course!
K     N     A    P     T     O     N

#237 From: "cal_meechum" <iron_goat@...>
Date: Fri May 3, 2002 6:08 am
Subject: Re: F2L pages suggestion
cal_meechum
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there is a way where all you have to learn is 20 F2L algs

what I do is put the corner piece in the U layer, with the D layer
color in either the F or R faces.  This is with the cross on the
bottom.  When you have that D color in either the F or R faces
there is only 20 algs to remember.
This is similar to doing the LL in 3 looks by first making a cross
on the top then only memorizing 9 orientation algs.
So yeah you only have to know 20 algs but it takes about 3-6
more moves per pair to get them into position.
I think this is what they mean when they say you can use only
part of this system.
But so far its so hard to practice the F2L algs because its hard to
put the pairs into position to practice the move.  You just have to
keep solving the cube over and over and use the F2L algs.

#238 From: "cubist3x3only" <cubist3x3only@...>
Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:32 am
Subject: whats the best way to look at the cube
cubist3x3only
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whats the best way to locate the pieces???? rotate? look at an angle?

#239 From: j_rueth
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 1:50 am
Subject: Re: whats the best way to look at the cube
j_rueth
 
I was also going to ask this question because i am currently
switching from a layer by layer method to the f2l and ll methods.  I
don't know how to spped myself up,  i cant locate peices and
sequences fast enough.  Althoug i have been improving.. from a min
and a half down to a min, still it is nothing like the 40s i was
getting before.
Jake

#240 From: smoothcuber
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: whats the best way to look at the cube
smoothcuber
 
A few tips on this:  First, it may help you to use moves that involve
just two faces, like R and U, avoiding moves that use more than 3
faces.  This may make it easier to spot the pieces.  Second, have the
moves down cold, so you don't have to think about them.  That way,
while you're doing a move, you can actively look for the next pair,
rather than watching the pair you are inserting.  Third, don't do a
move so fast that the other pieces are flying around and you can't at
least have a general idea of where they are ending up.  Fourth, I
think knowing how to insert pairs from various angles may help
(rather
than rotating the cube all the time), but I'm still experimenting
with
that.  The ugly truth is whatever you do, it takes time.  In my case
years and counting.  But stick with it, and good luck.

Dave


--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "cubist3x3only"
<cubist3x3only@y...> wrote:
> whats the best way to locate the pieces???? rotate? look at an
angle?

#241 From: j_rueth
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 8:39 pm
Subject: skewbers
j_rueth
 
Any skewbers out there?  I have a pb of 15sec,  I had to stop speed
skewbing though because i wore mine out.  It was my only one.  I have
to find another one some day.  Just wonderin if anyone had a thing
with this puzzle.
Jake

#242 From: Tyler Robbins <sum1else@...>
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 8:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] skewbers
moocowbob2000
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I cant even solve it.
My "centers" are always wrong, but the corners I can do.
Any tips?


-Tyler Robbins
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Specializing in Custom Sequential movement puzzles
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:40 PM
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] skewbers

Any skewbers out there?  I have a pb of 15sec,  I had to stop speed
skewbing though because i wore mine out.  It was my only one.  I have
to find another one some day.  Just wonderin if anyone had a thing
with this puzzle.
Jake





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#243 From: Tyler Robbins <sum1else@...>
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 8:51 pm
Subject: RE: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] skewbers
moocowbob2000
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You can buy a new skewb @ http://www.mefferts.com
<http://www.mefferts.com/>  for something like $15


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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:40 PM
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] skewbers

Any skewbers out there?  I have a pb of 15sec,  I had to stop speed
skewbing though because i wore mine out.  It was my only one.  I have
to find another one some day.  Just wonderin if anyone had a thing
with this puzzle.
Jake





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#244 From: "uvwarning" <uvwarning@...>
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 11:46 pm
Subject: what grade sandpaper should I use?
uvwarning
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I just went to the hardware store today to buy some fine grit
sandpaper and some silicone spray for my cube hoping I could make it a
bit faster.  I bought the highest grade that I saw which was 1200.  I
sanded a couple of pieces, but they seem to be less smooth after
sanding them.  Do I need to use higher grade sandpaper, or am I just
imagining things?

-Nathan

#246 From: wolfheat16
Date: Sat May 4, 2002 11:59 pm
Subject: Tactic on the F2L???
wolfheat16
 
Whats the first thing you 17-23´sec speedsolvers does in the F2L? Do
you use pieces from the opposite side of the cross first or do you
connect the ones that are allready in place but not oriented? Please
describe youre steps in youre solutions!

/Mike H

#247 From: "angela.hayden" <angela.hayden@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 12:05 am
Subject: Re: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] what grade sandpaper should I use?
stiff_hands
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Nathan,

I use low grade sandpaper for the big nodules sticking out, then go over the
pieces with the finest grade I can find and that seems to work fine.
Alternatively I finish it with emery cloth which is very good.
Using an old piece of sandpaper seems to help, as once it is worn it is a little
less abrasive.

- stiff_hands
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: uvwarning
   To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:46 AM
   Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] what grade sandpaper should I use?


   I just went to the hardware store today to buy some fine grit
   sandpaper and some silicone spray for my cube hoping I could make it a
   bit faster.  I bought the highest grade that I saw which was 1200.  I
   sanded a couple of pieces, but they seem to be less smooth after
   sanding them.  Do I need to use higher grade sandpaper, or am I just
   imagining things?

   -Nathan


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#248 From: "angela.hayden" <angela.hayden@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 12:08 am
Subject: Re: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] Tactic on the F2L???
stiff_hands
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Mike,
not quite sure what you are on about here. Please elaborate. Are you on about
doing the cross, or are you on about choosing which edge-corner pairs to solve.
Or both? I am about that range, so if you can phrase it in a way I understand I
will respond to your question.
- stiff_hands
   ----- Original Message -----
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   Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:59 AM
   Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] Tactic on the F2L???


   Whats the first thing you 17-23´sec speedsolvers does in the F2L? Do
   you use pieces from the opposite side of the cross first or do you
   connect the ones that are allready in place but not oriented? Please
   describe youre steps in youre solutions!

   /Mike H


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#249 From: wolfheat16
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] Tactic on the F2L???
wolfheat16
 
Ok sorry!!!

Its the edge corner pairs I mean! When you have done the cross and
starts with the pairs, what are the first kind of structure (relation
between egde-corner) you looking for?

I seem to want to begin finding one "free" corner in the bottom layer
(cross on top) and then find the related edge.

Hope you´ll understand what I,m trying to explain!

/Mike H

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "angela.hayden"
<angela.hayden@n...> wrote:
> Mike,
> not quite sure what you are on about here. Please elaborate. Are
you on about doing the cross, or are you on about choosing which edge-
corner pairs to solve. Or both? I am about that range, so if you can
phrase it in a way I understand I will respond to your question.
> - stiff_hands

#250 From: "angela.hayden" <angela.hayden@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 2:37 am
Subject: Re: Tactics on the F2L???
stiff_hands
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Mike,

I guess people will tackle this problem in many different ways, and many of the
ways would be equally valid. What I do is exactly what you describe (except that
I have cross on bottom); I find a corner in the U layer and then search for the
corresponding edge. Sometimes whilst searching for the corresponging edge I spot
a corner-edge pair and do that first instead, but more often the first pair I
know the location of will be the one with the corner in the U layer that I
originally spotted. Or if I did spot another pair first and didn't like it I
would keep searching for that edge.
If I can't spot a corner that is in the U layer (D layer for you) I simply bang
the first corner that I find into the U layer whilst looking for the edge. If I
know where the edge is already then I might use a more elegant solution, but if
I don't then I just bang the corner into that layer as that means I am doing
moves and thus am solving the cube. Sometimes I know where the edge is and
instead of wasting time deciding what the elegant move is I just bang the corner
up anyway as it works out well most of the time and thus on average is quicker
for me.
For the subsequent pairs I hope that I have worked out the algs for the next
pair before I start on it - generally I try to find a corner that will be in the
U layer when I have finished the current corner-edge pair I am placing. If I
can't find one, I just bang any old corner that needs solving up into the U
layer whilst hunting for its corresponding edge. There may be more elegant and
shorter moves that don't involve this, but I am familiar with the situations
that occur when the corner is in the U layer, and thus am able to devote my
attentions to finding the next pair better.
Most of the time I have the next pair spotted before I finish the current pair.
On occassions I don't. You have a choice of various strategies in that
situation: you could keep looking until you spot a pair, you could place a
single edge, you could place a single corner, you could put a corner into the U
layer. If you just keep looking until you spot a pair you may just remain blind
to where the cube you are looking for is for ages - normally you spot almost
instantly or it takes forever. The other options have the benefit of moving you
nearer to completing the cube, and also have the benefit of moving pieces around
so that the piece you couldn't find springs into view.

In summary, I think I am saying get the corner into the U layer first, and if
you can't spot the associated edge then simply place the corner in its correct
slot. (You can always use a working edge later on to place the edge when you
finally spot it). Other people will have other ideas, so try this out and make
your own mind up.

Somebody else I was in email correspondence with thought that your question
meant:
"after the cross has been done, do you go for F2L positions that have both
pieces in the layer opposite the cross first or for one that have at least
one piece in the correct place (but perhaps not correctly oriented) (if the
choice of the two options is open)?"
This is another good question. I should think there is a lot of variation here
between the faster cubers.

As stated above, I am looking for corners first, and I look in the U layer. If I
don't find one there then I look in the D layer. So I (almost) always go for the
situation where one corner is in the U layer and the the edge is anywhere (but
preferably in the U layer too). If pieces are in the correct slot but orientated
incorrectly it means nothing to me except that I will know where to find the
piece later - which is very pleasing. If an edge or corner is in the correct
slot and orientated correctly then that is where the "almost" earlier applies.
Depending on my mood (very scientific!), and also upon cube specifics (like
where the other piece is) I will do one of the following: I will find the other
piece and place it using a working corner or edge, I will look to see if there
if an edge from one slot solved and a corner from another slot solved and solve
the corresponding 2 slots in one go using "non-matching pairs" (see my site if
you don't know what I mean), I will place an easy pair that I have spotted, I
will find another pair and try to organise it so that I disturb another slot
whilst doing that pair in the hope that I will solve a corner or edge in that
slot leaving me able to solve 2 slots in one go yet again using "non-matching
pairs". Often this means I leave the slot to the end and thus haven't taken
advantage of one of the pieces being accidently solved. Something for me to wok
on I guess.

Somebody else who I was in chat with thought your question was something about
how to you form the cross.
Since it wasn't I won't mention any specifics on doing the cross except to say
that you should be able to spot at least a corner before the cross is completed.
Also, it is possible to work out where a pair of pieces will be when the cross
is completed by tracking their movement before you start doing the cube. I have
tried this but cannot do anywhere near the 15 seconds preinspection I give
myself except in really easy cases.

I hope this post has given you something to think about and that you find some
of this suits you. .

- stiff_hands


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#252 From: "uvwarning" <uvwarning@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 3:29 pm
Subject: cube lube
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Does anyone know what kind of silicone based lube they sell at
rubiks.com?  I bought a cube kit from them and the lube was really
nice.  It's this oderless white substance that you inject with a
syringe.  The problem is that they don't give you very much.  I tried
getting some silicone spray from the hardware store to replace it and
I don't like it.  My hands and cube now smell like WD-40.

-Nathan

#253 From: Tyler Robbins <sum1else@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 3:37 pm
Subject: RE: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] cube lube
moocowbob2000
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They give you wax, not silicone


-Tyler Robbins
  <http://www.thepuzzlestore.com/> www.thepuzzlestore.com
Specializing in Custom Sequential movement puzzles
Ebay UserID: Sum1else
-----Original Message-----
From: uvwarning [mailto:uvwarning@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 11:30 AM
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] cube lube

Does anyone know what kind of silicone based lube they sell at
rubiks.com?  I bought a cube kit from them and the lube was really
nice.  It's this oderless white substance that you inject with a
syringe.  The problem is that they don't give you very much.  I tried
getting some silicone spray from the hardware store to replace it and
I don't like it.  My hands and cube now smell like WD-40.

-Nathan





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#255 From: j_rueth
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: skewbers
j_rueth
 
Meffets solution has nice algs to switch the centers.  ($15!!! I
remember getting mine at Kay Be Toys for $2 on clearance.. hehehehe
times have changed)

#256 From: j_rueth
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 9:55 pm
Subject: 5x5x5 speed cubing
j_rueth
 
Since my 4x4x4 is currently busted (weak center pieces consperacy) I
thought i would try jumpin up and speed solve the 5x5x5. I don't have
a good speedy solution and was wonderin if anyone could help or share
there solutions.  My times are in the 15 min range but its a start at
least, right!?!  I use the centers first method and than i complete
layer by layer, in case if you wondering what solution i use.  Thanks
much
Jake

#257 From: wolfheat16
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: Tactics on the F2L???
wolfheat16
 
Hi!!

Thanks for youre descriptions on the F2L!

I didn´t mean the cross ok, you described the right stuff, Ok!

I start by finding eather an edge or a corner in the U-layer(youre
way) then I try to find the corresponding edge or corner by searching
the cube counterclockwise until I find it, while doing this I find
the next cubies to connect. And so it goes until F2L is solved,
perhaps a bit timeconsuming? what do you think? What should I work on
to improve my F2L times?


I avg tot. about 28´, but my weakness are the F2L it takes about 18-
20sec, and the last layer takes about 9-10sec. I think it depends on
the fact that I recently begun learning the F2L system, but that
seems to improving to. Before using it I had times at 37´and to start
with it became 48´ now I,ve worked myselfe down to 28´(tot). I think
practise is the thing I have to do, but it is interesting knowing how
faster people are doing.
/Mike H


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--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "angela.hayden"
<angela.hayden@n...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I guess people will tackle this problem in many different ways, and
many of the ways would be equally valid. What I do is exactly what
you describe (except that I have cross on bottom); I find a corner in
the U layer and then search for the corresponding edge. Sometimes
whilst searching for the corresponging edge I spot a corner-edge pair
and do that first instead, but more often the first pair I know the
location of will be the one with the corner in the U layer that I
originally spotted. Or if I did spot another pair first and didn't
like it I would keep searching for that edge.
> If I can't spot a corner that is in the U layer (D layer for you) I
simply bang the first corner that I find into the U layer whilst
looking for the edge. If I know where the edge is already then I
might use a more elegant solution, but if I don't then I just bang
the corner into that layer as that means I am doing moves and thus am
solving the cube. Sometimes I know where the edge is and instead of
wasting time deciding what the elegant move is I just bang the corner
up anyway as it works out well most of the time and thus on average
is quicker for me.
> For the subsequent pairs I hope that I have worked out the algs for
the next pair before I start on it - generally I try to find a corner
that will be in the U layer when I have finished the current corner-
edge pair I am placing. If I can't find one, I just bang any old
corner that needs solving up into the U layer whilst hunting for its
corresponding edge. There may be more elegant and shorter moves that
don't involve this, but I am familiar with the situations that occur
when the corner is in the U layer, and thus am able to devote my
attentions to finding the next pair better.
> Most of the time I have the next pair spotted before I finish the
current pair. On occassions I don't. You have a choice of various
strategies in that situation: you could keep looking until you spot a
pair, you could place a single edge, you could place a single corner,
you could put a corner into the U layer. If you just keep looking
until you spot a pair you may just remain blind to where the cube you
are looking for is for ages - normally you spot almost instantly or
it takes forever. The other options have the benefit of moving you
nearer to completing the cube, and also have the benefit of moving
pieces around so that the piece you couldn't find springs into view.
>
> In summary, I think I am saying get the corner into the U layer
first, and if you can't spot the associated edge then simply place
the corner in its correct slot. (You can always use a working edge
later on to place the edge when you finally spot it). Other people
will have other ideas, so try this out and make your own mind up.
>
> Somebody else I was in email correspondence with thought that your
question meant:
> "after the cross has been done, do you go for F2L positions that
have both
> pieces in the layer opposite the cross first or for one that have
at least
> one piece in the correct place (but perhaps not correctly oriented)
(if the
> choice of the two options is open)?"
> This is another good question. I should think there is a lot of
variation here between the faster cubers.
>
> As stated above, I am looking for corners first, and I look in the
U layer. If I don't find one there then I look in the D layer. So I
(almost) always go for the situation where one corner is in the U
layer and the the edge is anywhere (but preferably in the U layer
too). If pieces are in the correct slot but orientated incorrectly it
means nothing to me except that I will know where to find the piece
later - which is very pleasing. If an edge or corner is in the
correct slot and orientated correctly then that is where the "almost"
earlier applies. Depending on my mood (very scientific!), and also
upon cube specifics (like where the other piece is) I will do one of
the following: I will find the other piece and place it using a
working corner or edge, I will look to see if there if an edge from
one slot solved and a corner from another slot solved and solve the
corresponding 2 slots in one go using "non-matching pairs" (see my
site if you don't know what I mean), I will place an easy pair that I
have spotted, I will find another pair and try to organise it so that
I disturb another slot whilst doing that pair in the hope that I will
solve a corner or edge in that slot leaving me able to solve 2 slots
in one go yet again using "non-matching pairs". Often this means I
leave the slot to the end and thus haven't taken advantage of one of
the pieces being accidently solved. Something for me to wok on I
guess.
>
> Somebody else who I was in chat with thought your question was
something about how to you form the cross.
> Since it wasn't I won't mention any specifics on doing the cross
except to say that you should be able to spot at least a corner
before the cross is completed. Also, it is possible to work out where
a pair of pieces will be when the cross is completed by tracking
their movement before you start doing the cube. I have tried this but
cannot do anywhere near the 15 seconds preinspection I give myself
except in really easy cases.
>
> I hope this post has given you something to think about and that
you find some of this suits you. .
>
> - stiff_hands
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#258 From: Tyler Robbins <sum1else@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 11:34 pm
Subject: RE: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] 5x5x5 speed cubing
moocowbob2000
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I have spare centers,
Email me
Sum1else@...


-Tyler Robbins
  <http://www.thepuzzlestore.com/> www.thepuzzlestore.com
Specializing in Custom Sequential movement puzzles
Ebay UserID: Sum1else
-----Original Message-----
From: j_rueth [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:56 PM
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] 5x5x5 speed cubing

Since my 4x4x4 is currently busted (weak center pieces consperacy) I
thought i would try jumpin up and speed solve the 5x5x5. I don't have
a good speedy solution and was wonderin if anyone could help or share
there solutions.  My times are in the 15 min range but its a start at
least, right!?!  I use the centers first method and than i complete
layer by layer, in case if you wondering what solution i use.  Thanks
much
Jake





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#259 From: Tyler Robbins <sum1else@...>
Date: Sun May 5, 2002 11:38 pm
Subject: RE: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] 5x5x5 speed cubing
moocowbob2000
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What cube do you plan to use for 5x5 speeding?



-Tyler Robbins
  <http://www.thepuzzlestore.com/> www.thepuzzlestore.com
Specializing in Custom Sequential movement puzzles
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From: j_rueth [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:56 PM
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] 5x5x5 speed cubing

Since my 4x4x4 is currently busted (weak center pieces consperacy) I
thought i would try jumpin up and speed solve the 5x5x5. I don't have
a good speedy solution and was wonderin if anyone could help or share
there solutions.  My times are in the 15 min range but its a start at
least, right!?!  I use the centers first method and than i complete
layer by layer, in case if you wondering what solution i use.  Thanks
much
Jake





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#260 From: cheukyor
Date: Mon May 6, 2002 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: cube lube
cheukyor
 
The best lube to use on a cube is... BABY OIL (personally, I think
it's better than silicon oil).  Seriously, I love it.  It makes the
cube smells good too.

C




--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "uvwarning" <uvwarning@y...>
wrote:
> Does anyone know what kind of silicone based lube they sell at
> rubiks.com?  I bought a cube kit from them and the lube was really
> nice.  It's this oderless white substance that you inject with a
> syringe.  The problem is that they don't give you very much.  I
tried
> getting some silicone spray from the hardware store to replace it
and
> I don't like it.  My hands and cube now smell like WD-40.
>
> -Nathan

#261 From: j_rueth
Date: Tue May 7, 2002 1:19 am
Subject: Re: 5x5x5 speed cubing
j_rueth
 
I only have one 5x5x5 cube if thats what you mean.  I was gonna try
speed solving both 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 but my 4x4x4 is down.  If ur
asking for the make of the 5x5x5, i have no clue.  I got this one off
of ebay as well and i don't remember the seller off hand.  I might
have a print off in my room some where (the HELL zone)!!!
Jake

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., Tyler Robbins <sum1else@o...>
wrote:
> What cube do you plan to use for 5x5 speeding?
>
>
>
> -Tyler Robbins
>  <http://www.thepuzzlestore.com/> www.thepuzzlestore.com
> Specializing in Custom Sequential movement puzzles
> Ebay UserID: Sum1else
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j_rueth [mailto:no_reply@y...]
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:56 PM
> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@y...
> Subject: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] 5x5x5 speed cubing
>
> Since my 4x4x4 is currently busted (weak center pieces consperacy)
I
> thought i would try jumpin up and speed solve the 5x5x5. I don't
have
> a good speedy solution and was wonderin if anyone could help or
share
> there solutions.  My times are in the 15 min range but its a start
at
> least, right!?!  I use the centers first method and than i complete
> layer by layer, in case if you wondering what solution i use.
Thanks
> much
> Jake
>
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#262 From: "cubist3x3only" <cubist3x3only@...>
Date: Tue May 7, 2002 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: cube lube from rubiks.com
cubist3x3only
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i bought 2 kits but i don't use the lube ,i use my own ill send it to
anyone that needs it..
>
> -Nathan

#263 From: "cubist3x3only" <cubist3x3only@...>
Date: Tue May 7, 2002 6:44 pm
Subject: cubist3x3only chat rooms questions
cubist3x3only
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Does everyone use yahoo messenger to chat because nobody use's the
regular chat room

#264 From: "angela.hayden" <angela.hayden@...>
Date: Tue May 7, 2002 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Speed Solving Rubik's Cube] cubist3x3only chat rooms questions
stiff_hands
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Hey thats not true! I go into the club chatroom every Saturday and Sunday
evening my time ie British time (depending on what else I need to do), and
almost always meet up with kyubeman, smoothcuber and ilovemycube. Others also
drop in from time to time. Why not drop in and see who arrives this weekend?

- stiff_hands
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#265 From: "k4sauer" <ksauer@...>
Date: Wed May 8, 2002 1:34 am
Subject: Re: cube lube
k4sauer
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Can anyone confirm that Baby Oil is a good lube???  That sounds...
well, slippery! ;)

Keith

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., cheukyor <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> The best lube to use on a cube is... BABY OIL (personally, I think
> it's better than silicon oil).  Seriously, I love it.  It makes the
> cube smells good too.
>
> C
>
>
>
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "uvwarning" <uvwarning@y...>
> wrote:
> > Does anyone know what kind of silicone based lube they sell at
> > rubiks.com?  I bought a cube kit from them and the lube was really
> > nice.  It's this oderless white substance that you inject with a
> > syringe.  The problem is that they don't give you very much.  I
> tried
> > getting some silicone spray from the hardware store to replace it
> and
> > I don't like it.  My hands and cube now smell like WD-40.
> >
> > -Nathan

#266 From: cheukyor
Date: Wed May 8, 2002 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: cube lube
cheukyor
 
As everything else, don't overuse it.  Just try it, it won't break
your cube!

C


--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "k4sauer" <ksauer@h...> wrote:
> Can anyone confirm that Baby Oil is a good lube???  That sounds...
> well, slippery! ;)
>
> Keith
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., cheukyor <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > The best lube to use on a cube is... BABY OIL (personally, I
think
> > it's better than silicon oil).  Seriously, I love it.  It makes
the
> > cube smells good too.
> >
> > C
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "uvwarning" <uvwarning@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Does anyone know what kind of silicone based lube they sell at
> > > rubiks.com?  I bought a cube kit from them and the lube was
really
> > > nice.  It's this oderless white substance that you inject with a
> > > syringe.  The problem is that they don't give you very much.  I
> > tried
> > > getting some silicone spray from the hardware store to replace
it
> > and
> > > I don't like it.  My hands and cube now smell like WD-40.
> > >
> > > -Nathan

#267 From: krrash
Date: Wed May 8, 2002 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: cube lube
krrash
 
Well, it could break your cube.  I think that it could erode the
plastic.  Vaseline does the same thing.  This could actually improve
how your cube works.  You'll have to try for yourself to find out.
Just don't be surprised if you lube up your cube with baby oil, put
it in a box for a few years, take it out and it is mush.

Silicone spray lubricant won't damage your cube, and most people seem
to like how it works pretty well.

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., cheukyor <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> As everything else, don't overuse it.  Just try it, it won't break
> your cube!
>
> C
>
>
> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@y..., "k4sauer" <ksauer@h...> wrote:
> > Can anyone confirm that Baby Oil is a good lube???  That
sounds...
> > well, slippery! ;)

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