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Re: Turning point / Greece bailout, the economic meltdown and securi   Message List  
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Re: Turning point / Greece bailout, the economic meltdown and security threats to the US


>'Securitizing' mortgages made the hustle easier, because people no
>longer even had to pretend they knew what the hell they were buying.

Which has sharply limited my sympathy for the investors who bought
that stuff: 'caveat $uckwit', or somesuch.

> it just happened that the market, in this case, was founded on the
> delusion that real estate could only keep going up.

FWIW, Gilliland's _Rosinante..._ SF novels start with trans-Mars
habs being sold almost for scrap when their builder collapses :>

>The reference is to the Dutch tulip mania of the 1630s, commonly
>regarded as the first great economic bubble of the capitalist age.

Of course, though I find 18th C. French financial history to be
richer (e.g., "never trust a helpful Scotsman"). OTOH, ISTR that the
Dutch Indies Coy had elements of a scam, which has to have consim applications.





Mon Jul 5, 2010 8:46 pm

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