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Re: Metal/alloy durability for making weapons?

--- In rpg-create@yahoogroups.com, Peter Knutsen <list@...> wrote:
>
> I've decided that in the Ärth setting, "meteoric iron" is a
> fantastically good weapons alloy, equivalent to advanced steel (+2
> bonus), because it's cool and it simulates many *myths* about the
> material, even though realistically meteoric iron should probably
> be a mere +0, perhaps with a tiny degree of rustproofness relative
> to ordinary "iron".

Meteoric iron is actually a natural alloy of iron and nickel. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_meteorite.

The common meteoric iron-nickle alloy taenite has a hardness of 5-5.5 on the
Mohs scale. For compariosn, iron has 4, simple steel has 4.5, and hardened steel
has about 7.5. Taenite is also magnetic, and IIRC, meteoric 'iron' is often so
free from impurities that it becomes rust-free.

> So that's the scale. Where should I place silver, bronze and copper?
> (Information about other metals and alloys, such as gold, is welcome,
> but not badly needed.)

For hardness, I refer you to the Mohs scale:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness

However, hardness says nothing about how brittle a material is. Glass, for
instance, has a rather high Mohs value of about 7.

Pure gold and silver are very soft (Mohs value 2.5-3), not suitable for weapons.
Silver daggers in history were mainly decorative. The Precolumbian Mesoamericans
had lots of gold, but for weapons they used obsidian. Silver and especially gold
are also very heavy - it would be difficult to wield a gold sword.

- Klaus




Fri Jul 3, 2009 9:07 am

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Hi In Sagatafl, all weapons have a Durability value, derived from the weapon's size (Medium size, equivalent to shortsword, is optimal) and type (sword-like,...
Peter Knutsen
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Jul 2, 2009
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... Bronze is less brittle than iron or pattern-welded steel (which I guess is what you mean with primitive steel), but it holds an edge less well and it bends...
Torben AEgidius Mogen...
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Jul 3, 2009
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... Bronze is not as durable as iron. Bronze swords were almost always short thrusting swords, bronze is incapable of supporting the weight of a longsword and...
Tim
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Jul 4, 2009
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... Yes, I'm not at all convinced that Moh'd Hardness Scale is particularly useful in this context. Perhaps there should be a special rule for materials...
Peter Knutsen
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Jul 8, 2009
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... Meteoric iron is actually a natural alloy of iron and nickel. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_meteorite. The common meteoric iron-nickle alloy...
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... good god.. a solid gold broadsword would probobly weight about 150lbs. Some nimble thief would just shank you and sell it. Heh.. I can just imagine a...
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... Hardly. Gold is "only" about 2.5 times heavier than iron, and an iron broadsword is about 3lbs. A broadsword of gold would be very soft, though, so you...
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... The *really* important question is, how impure can a silver sword be, before it stops being doing full damage to were-creatures? -- Peter Knutsen ...
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I accidentally sent this as a private email, instead of to the list. ... A typical rule in many RPGs would be that weres take half damage from weapons that...
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