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Dear All,

Continuing the breakneck pace with which we've set off in 2007, I'd
like to draw your attention to the first ever Baccus Gaming Day.

This will take place on Sunday 25th February at the Wargames Emporium
Gaming Centre in Sheffield, from 10.00am to 4.00pm. The day will give
the opportunity to players of the Polemos rules series to get
together, play games, chat with the rules writers, and take part in
some practical painting and modelling workshops.

Numbers are restricted as the venue itself cannot hold more than 30
people, so you'll have to book in advance. There will also be a
booking system in place for the available tables. The price for the
day is �5.00 which includes lunch. You'll also be able to take the
opportunity to browse the wares available from both the Baccus stand
and the Wargames Emporium itself.

I'll be running a 'dating agency' for any of you out there with an
army looking for a game, and I'll be offering a prize to the the
owner of the best painted army used on the day.

If you're interested in 6mm gaming this promises to be a great day
out!

More details can be found from the Baccus site

Any queries, bookings or requests for 'pairing' to myself at
baccus6@...


Cheers

Peter Berry
Baccus 6mm
www.baccus6mm.com

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#2111

From: Sven Lugar <vikingjarl@...>
Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 8:32 am
Subject: SPAM INTRUDER ALERT in Polemos

svenlugar

Don't open the email, labeled "my pomm" as there appears that there may
be something embedded in it, that my software caught fortunately. Peter
can the moderators do something about limiting initial access so that
spammers & such ilk can't post their pong?
takk,
Sven

#2112

From: baccus6@...
Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 3:52 am
Subject: Re: SPAM INTRUDER ALERT in Polemos

Baccus6mm

In a message dated 05/01/2007 08:39:58 GMT Standard Time, vikingjarl@... writes:

Don't open the email, labeled "my pomm" as there appears that there may
be something embedded in it, that my software caught fortunately. Peter
can the moderators do something about limiting initial access so that
spammers & such ilk can't post their pong?

Hi Sven,

My fault. Pressed the wrong button and instead of sending this pile of manure to spam hell, it slipped through to the group. Won't happen again.

Cheers

Peter

#2113

From: Sven Lugar <vikingjarl@...>
Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: SPAM INTRUDER ALERT in Polemos

svenlugar

Thanks, Peter. I've seen other groups where the Spam got thicker than Mongols on Kumiss & I was concerned we were in for a spam attack.
Will your distributors also be honoring the 10% sale or just your web-store?
Skal!
Sven

baccus6@... wrote:

In a message dated 05/01/2007 08:39:58 GMT Standard Time, vikingjarl@gmail.com writes:

Don't open the email, labeled "my pomm" as there appears that there may
be something embedded in it, that my software caught fortunately. Peter
can the moderators do something about limiting initial access so that
spammers & such ilk can't post their pong?

Hi Sven,

My fault. Pressed the wrong button and instead of sending this pile of manure to spam hell, it slipped through to the group. Won't happen again.

Cheers

Peter

#2114

From: baccus6@...
Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: SPAM INTRUDER ALERT in Polemos

Baccus6mm

Hi Sven,

<<<Thanks, Peter. I've seen other groups where the Spam got thicker than Mongols on Kumiss & I was concerned we were in for a spam attack.<>>>>>

I know just what you mean, which is why I moderate all mails from unknown posters. Spam can kill a group very quickly. I've seen it happen.

<<<<<Will your distributors also be honoring the 10% sale or just your web-store?>>>>

This is purely my initiative. It does not affect any reseller.

Cheers

Peter

#2115

From: "projekt_direktor" <projekt_direktor@...>
Date: Sun Jan 7, 2007 9:10 pm
Subject: The Command Horizon yahoo group

projekt_dire...

Hi Pete & All,

Is this yahoo group up and running yet as it mentions it in the
downloadable set of CH rules.

If so the yahoo search engine can't find it.

Can you let me know?

Thanks
Spencer

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#2116

From: <aldo.ghetti@...>
Date: Mon Jan 8, 2007 6:02 pm
Subject: MDE

aldoghetti52

Dear Chris Grice

Thanks for the punctual answers always much.
The Marechal de l'Empire are splendid.
It compliments!
Two questions please:
(A)
The artillery can fire if placed behind an friendly units (infantry and cavalry), or the artillery must have the free fire line, or to be more up friendly units?
(B)
The chine of an unit is A contact point. The unit A have B on flank (supporting) with the same aligned forehead, B come behind pushed of 1 BW. B comes rear but it remains to contact of the posterior chine of A, for which continuous B the support on A?

Thanks

ALDO
Faenza - RA
Italy

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#2117

From: "Derek Rogillio" <drogillio@...>
Date: Mon Jan 8, 2007 7:32 pm
Subject: War of Spanish Succession - references and basing options

derek_rogillio

Hello everyone,

I just purchased the Polemos WSS starter kit.  I have my rules,
figures, flags, and bases in front of me and am ready to go.  However,
I've got a few questions that I was hoping some of you could answer
before I get started.

The WSS is a completely new period for me.  I wanted to try Baccus 6mm
figures and the Polemos rules, so I decided to try something new.
Consequently, I know very little about the historical period.  I've
read "Blenheim" by Charles Spencer.  Are there other references that
you might recommend?  Where do the real afficianados go for order of
battle and colors/painting advice?  I'm particularly interested in the
battles on the peninsula, as well as the colors and flags of the
Spanish units fighting with the French.

The other question I had relates more to Polemos than the WSS.  I'd
like to label my bases such that they are easily identifiable on the
table top.  My preference would be for permanent labels as opposed to
paper tabs.  Does anyone have some examples of how they have labeled
their bases for Polemos?

Thanks in advance!

-Derek

#2118

From: Sven Lugar <vikingjarl@...>
Date: Mon Jan 8, 2007 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: War of Spanish Succession - references and basing options

svenlugar

What I did was the Kartika font (a very small True-type font in MS-Word) at 10pt or even 8pt write the name of the unit & usual value. Each label I would space by 2 lines for ease of cutting. I would print out all the labels I need for the army & cut them carefully into individual labels This I would glue (using white "Elmers" glue) to the top of the base along the back edge so it was minimally intrusive. Then I place the minis & flock the base leaving the label barely exposed. It detracts very little from the appearance & does what I need. By preference I use "Fox magnetic bases" for their non-warping, sturdiness, & ease.
Good Luck Derek, it's a great period to game.
Skal!
Sven

Derek Rogillio wrote:

...snip...

The other question I had relates more to Polemos than the WSS. I'd
like to label my bases such that they are easily identifiable on the
table top. My preference would be for permanent labels as opposed to
paper tabs. Does anyone have some examples of how they have labeled
their bases for Polemos?

Thanks in advance!

-Derek

#2119

From: "Kevin" <kdonovanasocs@...>
Date: Tue Jan 9, 2007 4:11 am
Subject: Re: War of Spanish Succession - references and basing options

kdonovanasocs

Hi:

--- In polemos@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Rogillio" <drogillio@...> wrote:

> The other question I had relates more to Polemos than the WSS.  I'd
> like to label my bases such that they are easily identifiable on the
> table top.  My preference would be for permanent labels as opposed to
> paper tabs.  Does anyone have some examples of how they have labeled
> their bases for Polemos?

     Although not based for Polemos I base 6mm WSS units (Bn or Sqdn)
on a thick base (3mm + magnet for a height of about 4mm) and mark 3
sides black (using a magic marker on front and sides) while I paint
the rear of the base a distinctive color for each nationality.  I then
write the unit's name on the rear colored part.  I like it because it
is not too obtrusive but it allows people unfamiliar with the
intricacies of the period to easily keep track of units while playing.

     Kevin

#2120

From: "Nick and Nina" <nick@...>
Date: Tue Jan 9, 2007 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: War of Spanish Succession - references and basing options

hwiccee

Hi Derek.

Labelling: For my bases I leave a section a strip about of about 6mm at the back of the base. I paint this the same colour as the base but I also write/paint on to this part the bases 'normal' designation in a cream/buff type colour - i.e. so it can be seen but not be too bright. But I also make up other labels on the PC and put these on top of the 'normal' designations when I am using the units as something else. So say I have a base painted as Hanoverians (red coats). I will write on to the base the 'normal' designation say 3 1/Rantzow T - i.e 3rd brigade, 1st Battalion of Rantzow's regiment, T = Trained. But maybe I am doing a battle in Spain and I need extra British units or some scenario or something in which I need the unit to be different. I when make up a label with what ever new designation I need. So the Hanoverians could be British or any other unit in red coats. OK the flags are wrong but....

Sources: This is obviously quite a big subject area. So I will give you a few pointers but I don't have time for too much detail. I would say that the classic (but a little dated now) sources on the war are by David Chandler (put 'Marlborough David Chandler' into your search engine or somewhere like Amazon). James Faulkner is more modern and a good read. He has a series of books on the war as well (search as above). Unfortunately these, and most other easily available material, do not cover the war in Spain/Portugal very well.

In general the least well documented part of the war is Spain and Portugal. It is difficult to find much information on the battles, OOB's, uniforms, etc - particularly for the actual Spanish and Portuguese armies. I think that probably the best easily accessible source for the campaigns is this website - http://www.spanishsuccession.nl/, look in the timelines.

On the Spanish (and Portuguese) uniform side I am afraid there is not much. I have some uniform material that a Spanish friend sent to me and I would be happy to send it to you (or anyone else). It is not wonderful but it is something (contact me at gamerandr@...). There is also some in the Charles Grant books "From Pike to Shot" (a good starter for uniforms generally).

Easily the best uniform 'books' available are those sold by Baccus (and other 6mm sellers) - check products, publications on www.baccus6mm.com

There are some other OOB's on http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C18/pgnwal.htm. At the moment there are no more Spanish ones but I am working on some more. Unfortunately with only very basic information about the Spanish (and Portuguese). There are also updated Polemos army lists from the rules available. Again contact me as above.

I hope this helps a little.

Nick

#2121

From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:43 pm
Subject: Double ranked bases

pa7mes

Hi All,

The majority of basing I have seen for Polemos games (6mm) have had the
miniatures double or triple ranked (usually).  I was wondering if you
sealed in between the ranks before applying flock, scenic scatter etc?
By that I mean do you apply a filler to level out the bases first?

#2122

From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:39 pm
Subject: Napoleonic Basing

pa7mes

Firstly I whould like to say hello to the group as this is my first
post.

I am planning to start playing polemos Napoleonic and I have a couple
of questions.  For those of you who use the Baccus forum I appologise
if you have seen these before.

I am looking to play games on a table no larger than 4'x4' and sadly
mostly solo (due to lack of players in my area (west midlands).  I was
wondering about the size of battle I could fight on such a table, How
many bases I could use per side and whether or not a smaller base size
may be more appropriate.  I am not too fussed if I only get to fight a
section of a battlefield; if this is the case what would be the ground
scale/size.

#2123

From: baccus6@...
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: Double ranked bases

Baccus6mm

In a message dated 10/01/2007 17:08:52 GMT Standard Time, michaelesims@... writes:

The majority of basing I have seen for Polemos games (6mm) have had the
miniatures double or triple ranked (usually). I was wondering if you
sealed in between the ranks before applying flock, scenic scatter etc?
By that I mean do you apply a filler to level out the bases first?

I paint the bases of the figure strips to match the base colour. It the strips are butted up to each other tightly when you glue them to the base, you don't need to do any flocking or filling or between them.

Cheers

Peter

#2124

From: "gordon5603" <gordon.hazelton@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: Napoleonic Basing

gordon5603

How far are you from Worcester - I have attio conversion with 6 x 4
table set up with battle of Marengo and no-one to play against!!!

-- In polemos@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
wrote:
>
> Firstly I whould like to say hello to the group as this is my first
> post.
>
> I am planning to start playing polemos Napoleonic and I have a
couple
> of questions.  For those of you who use the Baccus forum I
appologise
> if you have seen these before.
>
> I am looking to play games on a table no larger than 4'x4' and
sadly
> mostly solo (due to lack of players in my area (west midlands).  I
was
> wondering about the size of battle I could fight on such a table,
How
> many bases I could use per side and whether or not a smaller base
size
> may be more appropriate.  I am not too fussed if I only get to
fight a
> section of a battlefield; if this is the case what would be the
ground
> scale/size.
>

#2125

From: Steven Gray <sadgig@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Napoleonic Basing

sadgig

There's a club in Stourbridge that meets Friday night
no-one plays Polemos there, yet but you might get some
new players.  There used to be a club in Kiddy- Wyre
Forest Wargamers.

Oktober (B'ham city centre) haved moved, but I don't
know where to.

If you want I can find you details about them.

--- gordon5603 <gordon.hazelton@...>
wrote:

> How far are you from Worcester - I have attio
> conversion with 6 x 4
> table set up with battle of Marengo and no-one to
> play against!!!
>
> -- In polemos@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E. Sims"
> <michaelesims@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Firstly I whould like to say hello to the group as
> this is my first
> > post.
> >
> > I am planning to start playing polemos Napoleonic
> and I have a
> couple
> > of questions.  For those of you who use the Baccus
> forum I
> appologise
> > if you have seen these before.
> >
> > I am looking to play games on a table no larger
> than 4'x4' and
> sadly
> > mostly solo (due to lack of players in my area
> (west midlands).  I
> was
> > wondering about the size of battle I could fight
> on such a table,
> How
> > many bases I could use per side and whether or not
> a smaller base
> size
> > may be more appropriate.  I am not too fussed if I
> only get to
> fight a
> > section of a battlefield; if this is the case what
> would be the
> ground
> > scale/size.
> >
>
>
>

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#2126

From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: Napoleonic Basing

pa7mes

--- In polemos@yahoogroups.com, "gordon5603" <gordon.hazelton@...>
wrote:
>
> How far are you from Worcester - I have attio conversion with 6 x 4
> table set up with battle of Marengo and no-one to play against!!!

I am in Halesowen, near Dudley. Not too far from Worcester.

#2127

From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: Napoleonic Basing

pa7mes

Stourbridge isnt far, send me some details,

Thanks.

--- In polemos@yahoogroups.com, Steven Gray <sadgig@...> wrote:
>
> There's a club in Stourbridge that meets Friday night
> no-one plays Polemos there, yet but you might get some
> new players.  There used to be a club in Kiddy- Wyre
> Forest Wargamers.
>
> Oktober (B'ham city centre) haved moved, but I don't
> know where to.
>
> If you want I can find you details about them.
>
> --- gordon5603 <gordon.hazelton@...>
> wrote:
>
> > How far are you from Worcester - I have attio
> > conversion with 6 x 4
> > table set up with battle of Marengo and no-one to
> > play against!!!
> >
> > -- In polemos@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E. Sims"
> > <michaelesims@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Firstly I whould like to say hello to the group as
> > this is my first
> > > post.
> > >
> > > I am planning to start playing polemos Napoleonic
> > and I have a
> > couple
> > > of questions.  For those of you who use the Baccus
> > forum I
> > appologise
> > > if you have seen these before.
> > >
> > > I am looking to play games on a table no larger
> > than 4'x4' and
> > sadly
> > > mostly solo (due to lack of players in my area
> > (west midlands).  I
> > was
> > > wondering about the size of battle I could fight
> > on such a table,
> > How
> > > many bases I could use per side and whether or not
> > a smaller base
> > size
> > > may be more appropriate.  I am not too fussed if I
> > only get to
> > fight a
> > > section of a battlefield; if this is the case what
> > would be the
> > ground
> > > scale/size.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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#2128

From: "Glenn Pearce" <GlennRPearce@...>
Date: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:22 am
Subject: RE: Napoleonic Basing

glennrpearce

Hello Michael!

>From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
>
>I am looking to play games on a table no larger than 4'x4' and sadly
>mostly solo (due to lack of players in my area (west midlands).  I was
>wondering about the size of battle I could fight on such a table, How
>many bases I could use per side and whether or not a smaller base size
>may be more appropriate.  I am not too fussed if I only get to fight a
>section of a battlefield; if this is the case what would be the ground
>scale/size.
>
GP: Once you get the hang of Polemos you will see that you can actually
change the scale to
fit the size of the force and table that you have. You can change your
Brigades to Divisions for
PME and your Battalions to Regiments for PGD.  Don't worry too much about
the actual scale.
As long as your table looks good that's all that really matters. Even if you
use the actual scale 4'x4'
can capture a good 50% or more of most battlefields.

I would not recommend using smaller bases as the present size is a perfect
balance for 6mm figures.
Once you use your own size bases you have doomed yourself into only being
able to use your bases.
Your can no longer mix with other Polemos players. You never really know
what the future will bring
and your solo days may be shorter then you think.

Best regards,

Glenn

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#2129

From: "Glenn Pearce" <GlennRPearce@...>
Date: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:39 am
Subject: RE: Double ranked bases

glennrpearce

Hello Michael!

>From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
>
>The majority of basing I have seen for Polemos games (6mm) have had the
>miniatures double or triple ranked (usually).  I was wondering if you
>sealed in between the ranks before applying flock, scenic scatter etc?
>By that I mean do you apply a filler to level out the bases first?
>
GP: I only use two ranks for infantry with 1/4" space between them. I think
this helps create a
little depth to the unit without the need for a third rank. When you cram
three ranks the middle
rank gets lost and actually blocks the colours of the figures in the second
and third rank. Spacing
6mm figures out a bit lets more light in and allows more colour to come out.
I just apply static grass
between the ranks, it's tall enough to fill the gap between the base of the
figures and the unit base.

Best regards,

Glenn

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#2130

From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: Double ranked bases

pa7mes

> I paint the bases of the figure strips to match the base colour.  It
the
> strips are butted up to each other tightly when you glue them to the
base,  you
> don't need to do any flocking or filling or between them.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
Thanks Peter, That will make things a hwole lot easier.

#2131

From: Charles Kirke <charleskirke@...>
Date: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: Napoleonic Basing

charleskirke

As a side issue - I agree with what Glenn has said
about the problems of making yourself unique - I have
an old pair of 5mm armies (in the era BB - that's
'Before Baccus') which are based on 30 x 15mm bases
for Napoleonic Principles of War.  The result is that
we can use them on a very small table - the base width
and base depths are half of the conventional Polemos
dimensions.

The result is fiddly, but my goodness we can get a lot
of troops into action! (we never actually finish a
game, but the photos are good!).  So, if anybody has
troops already based for Napoleonic Pinciples of War
(30 x 15mm) then it is perfectly possible to try out
Polemos with no rebasing.

Charles





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#2132

From: "teethdolphin" <teethdolphin@...>
Date: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:17 pm
Subject: Ancient rules

teethdolphin

Hi
Would it be possible for me to join the group testing the polemos
ancients rules?

Thanks, Paul

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#2133

From: "Michael E. Sims" <michaelesims@...>
Date: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:10 pm
Subject: Which Napoleonic Armies?

pa7mes

Hi All,

I am in two minds (possibly more) over which two armies to include in
the Napoleonic Polemos box set.  Peter assures me that I can choose
from any of his current armies (French, Austrian, British, Russian,
Prussian and sadly not Bavarian yet).  I will be playing the smaller
battles, but as I have not got (or seen) a copy of the rules I am not
sure about the senarios included.  I am leaning towards French/Austrian
at the moment on the basis that they met quite a few times.

Can anyone lend a hand.

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#2134

From: Ren� Hoevenberg <r.hoevenberg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Ancient rules

rhoevenberg

Hmmm..... Polemos ancients... that sounds good.... compatible with 25mm based DBx?

René
teethdolphin wrote:

Hi
Would it be possible for me to join the group testing the polemos
ancients rules?

Thanks, Paul

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#2135

From: "volt_tare" <stelyn@...>
Date: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:08 am
Subject: Cold Wars

volt_tare

Anyone planning on attending Cold Wars?

I have a small English ECW army that has yet to be in a fight.  I've
never played Polemos either, but read the rules.  Would really like to
try it.



-Steve

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#2136

From: Sven Lugar <vikingjarl@...>
Date: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:12 am
Subject: Re: Ancient rules

svenlugar

No based on 60mm x 30mm bases or like 2 to 1 proportion

René Hoevenberg wrote:

Hmmm..... Polemos ancients... that sounds good.... compatible with 25mm based DBx?

René
teethdolphin wrote:

Hi
Would it be possible for me to join the group testing the polemos
ancients rules?

Thanks, Paul

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#2137

From: "Glenn Pearce" <GlennRPearce@...>
Date: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:26 am
Subject: RE: Re: Napoleonic Basing

glennrpearce

Hello Charles!

>From: Charles Kirke <charleskirke@...>
>
>As a side issue - I agree with what Glenn has said
>about the problems of making yourself unique - I have
>an old pair of 5mm armies (in the era BB - that's
>'Before Baccus') which are based on 30 x 15mm bases
>for Napoleonic Principles of War.  The result is that
>we can use them on a very small table - the base width
>and base depths are half of the conventional Polemos
>dimensions.
>
>The result is fiddly, but my goodness we can get a lot
>of troops into action! (we never actually finish a
>game, but the photos are good!).  So, if anybody has
>troops already based for Napoleonic Pinciples of War
>(30 x 15mm) then it is perfectly possible to try out
>Polemos with no rebasing.
>
GP: Talk about "BB" and fiddly. Our entire collection of over 25,000 6mm was
on 7/8" x 5/8" bases.
They were 1/2 battalions or a squadron. Even though we moved them in
regiments it was still
tedious. We finished all our games as we used a very simple rule system (our
own). I'm now
converting everything over to basic Polemos basing (60x30). Much to my
surprise it's going along
pretty good, but never again. I guess I can't really complain as we used our
original basing for over
25 years! Our Polemos photos look much better then our old ones.

Best regards,

Glenn

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#2138

From: "Glenn Pearce" <GlennRPearce@...>
Date: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:41 am
Subject: RE: Which Napoleonic Armies?

glennrpearce