> I saw that tracker.  Nice laugh...

Glad you got a laugh.

> Small group for the BoD meeting... Not exactly a Quorum, eh? :p

Pretty much.

Paul W. King
TM SB, OGL/PL Chimp, Data Gibbon, BoD

<snip>
--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Sergio Bruno Fedi de Oro" <sfedi@y...>
wrote:
> When listing the possesions of a character, in a Statblock1, it
> doesn't show the quantity of items of a given king (e.g. 2 Scrolls of
> Cure Light Wounds)
>
> Is that a problem with the sheet definition?
> How can I do it?
> (I'm aware that quantities DO show in other html formats)

Statblock1 does not show quantity. That is by design, it's a very simple
type of statblock. Statblock2 and Statblock3 both do show the quantity.
So look at Statblock2 or Statblock3, if you want to make a modified
Statblock1 that shows quantity.

Chuck
OS Chimp
</snip>

Chuck I noticed that statblock2 doesn't list SR

Paul G.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Grosse" <paul.grosse@m...> wrote:
> Chuck I noticed that statblock2 doesn't list SR
>
> Paul G.

That's another FREQ. See tracker #1159515. I've been busy trying to
help get 5.8, so it hasn't gotten to the top of my list just yet. But
it will get done.

Chuck
OS Chimp

Morning all,

This may seem like a basic question, but I cannot figure out from the
docs how to select this or if it's being properly created in the
expected directory.

I have a Monte Cook Sorceror in a 3E game.  I do have the CMP 3E files.
I am trying to create a pcc that will allow me to load the lst files
from CMP along with the permissioned files from PCGen release.  I have
created several PCC files, have not found a single place where I can
select the file I've created and they don't show up in my souce
selection window.

Please help.

Thanks, Michael

Hi,

I just tried out the Battlemind class from the msrd and saw that it doesn't
raise the power points. You get 2 power points at first level and stay there
at the higher ones.

I looked up msrd_classes_fx.lst and I saw that the power point raising was
done the exactly same way as in the Telepath class, where it works without
problems.

After a lot of testing and frustration I found out, that when I renamed the
class from "Battlemind" to "Herbert" everything worked OK. (No, this is not
an April Fools joke).

In debug mode when I tried to display the variables and entered
var("CL=Battlemind") I was corrected sometimes with BATTLEMIN instead of
Battlemind, so I assume that BATTLEMIN might be an internal variable and
that causes the problem.

Cheerio,

Frank Kliewe
PCGen Data Lemur

On 4/4/05 4:07 PM, "Frank Kliewe" <fkliewe@...> wrote:

> In debug mode when I tried to display the variables and entered
> var("CL=Battlemind") I was corrected sometimes with BATTLEMIN instead of
> Battlemind, so I assume that BATTLEMIN might be an internal variable and
> that causes the problem.

This issue popped up a few months back, I thought it had been dealt with.

If its the same issue PCGen is trying to parse the MIN in Battlemind as a
math operator making the assumption the "Battle" & "d" are VARs to compare.

If this is all contained in class lines we can fix this simply by changing
CL=Battlemind" to "CL" and be done with it. If its used outside of the class
lines like in hidden feats and such we have a more difficult problem.
--
~ Eddy Anthony (MoSaT)
~ PCGen Content Silverback

I made a search for the term "Battlemind" using Filehand Search and found the
term in the following files:
     - msrd_fx_powers.lst (only in the CLASSES tags, and I think these work)
     - msrd_fx.lst (this is obviously an old file that was split later into a
powers and a spells file, I don't know why it is still there, it isn't called in
the pcc)
     - msrd_classes_fx.lst (well, that one was obvious since it caused the
problem)
     - msrd_feats.lst (only in TYPE tags and these are working, too)

and in a comment in a cityscape file. So it looks like there are no hidden feats
involved.

Cheerio,

Frank Kliewe
PCGen Data Lemur

----- Original Message -----
   From: Eddy Anthony
   To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:32 PM
   Subject: Re: [pcgen] MSRD Battlemind Class doesn't raise power points


   On 4/4/05 4:07 PM, "Frank Kliewe" <fkliewe@...> wrote:

   > In debug mode when I tried to display the variables and entered
   > var("CL=Battlemind") I was corrected sometimes with BATTLEMIN instead of
   > Battlemind, so I assume that BATTLEMIN might be an internal variable and
   > that causes the problem.

   This issue popped up a few months back, I thought it had been dealt with.

   If its the same issue PCGen is trying to parse the MIN in Battlemind as a
   math operator making the assumption the "Battle" & "d" are VARs to compare.

   If this is all contained in class lines we can fix this simply by changing
   CL=Battlemind" to "CL" and be done with it. If its used outside of the class
   lines like in hidden feats and such we have a more difficult problem.
   --
   ~ Eddy Anthony (MoSaT)
   ~ PCGen Content Silverback




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I am working on some datasets for Living Greyhawk and ran across an
anomly (I believe).  PREREGION takes only 1 value which makes coding
Feat that may be from many regions a arduous process.

I would like to ask that PREREGION be treated the same as PRERACE,
where there is a comma seperated list of regions, and any one of them
statisfies the PREREGION requirement.

Discussion?

http://www.petitiononline.com/kham2087/petition.html

let yahoo know thru this online petition... 25k sigs so far.

At 01:36 2005.04.04, thoron-tir-gwaith@... wrote:
>I saw that tracker.  Nice laugh...
>
>Small group for the BoD meeting... Not exactly a Quorum, eh? :p
>
>Tir Gwaith
>LST Chimp

Well since me and Paul were both prime and second, we were "controling" two
votes each so we had a quorum :-).


-----------------------------------------------------------
Éric "Space Monkey" Beaudoin
Founding Member of the Hidden-in-the-Trench Club
Release Monkey and Syntax Watchdog
>> In space, no one can hear you sleep.
>> Camels to can climb trees (and sometime eat them).
<mailto:beaudoer@...>

Dave wrote:

>http://www.petitiononline.com/kham2087/petition.html
>
>let yahoo know thru this online petition... 25k sigs so far.
>
>
>
>
Just use greasemonkey (with firefox): http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/

There are already scripts in the script repository for Y! groups:
http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScripts

Greasemonkey allows firefox to run arbitrary javascript on a page as
it's loaded, allowing you the user to completely alter the content if
the page if you want to.  It's one of the most fundamentally cool (and
scary - if you are a business who depends on controlling how people use
things) to appear on the web in the past year.

Devon

============================================================
From: "lonbarnett1957" <lonbarnett@...>
Date: 2005/04/04 må PM 11:41:13 GMT+02:00
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Ämne: [pcgen] FREQ - PREREGION

I am working on some datasets for Living Greyhawk and ran across an
anomly (I believe).  PREREGION takes only 1 value which makes coding
Feat that may be from many regions a arduous process.

I would like to ask that PREREGION be treated the same as PRERACE,
where there is a comma seperated list of regions, and any one of them
statisfies the PREREGION requirement.

Discussion?
============================================================
Hi!

I already made a FREQ for this issue, when I came across this snag.

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1026709&group_id=25576&atid=384\
722

[TM]Ravgaon


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:15, Devon Jones wrote:

> Dave wrote:
>
>> http://www.petitiononline.com/kham2087/petition.html
>>
>> let yahoo know thru this online petition... 25k sigs so far.
>>
> Just use greasemonkey (with firefox): http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/
>
> There are already scripts in the script repository for Y! groups:
> http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScripts
>
> Greasemonkey allows firefox to run arbitrary javascript on a page as
> it's loaded, allowing you the user to completely alter the content if
> the page if you want to.  It's one of the most fundamentally cool (and
> scary - if you are a business who depends on controlling how people use
> things) to appear on the web in the past year.
>

Does it allow you to add content that's not there?

My biggest gripe with the new look isn't the look itself.  It's that
the "mygroups" page used to tell me how many pending messages and
pending memberships each group I moderate had ... and now it doesn't.
So I have to visit each group to find out.  That's a major reduction in
usability.

John Rudd wrote:

>Does it allow you to add content that's not there?
>
>
Yes.  Some of the scripts that work with allmusic aggregate the
information from multiple pages into one.

>My biggest gripe with the new look isn't the look itself.  It's that
>the "mygroups" page used to tell me how many pending messages and
>pending memberships each group I moderate had ... and now it doesn't.
>So I have to visit each group to find out.  That's a major reduction in
>usability.
>
>
>
None of the existing scripts do that, but it should be easy, because you
can grab content from other pages using greasemonkey - they have a place
where people can request additions to the scripts.

Devon

Priority escalated per request.

Paul W. King
TM SB, OGL/PL Chimp, Data Gibbon, BoD
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

FYI, similar functionality is available for Safari on Mac OS X with
"PithHelmet"

I've not checked out the GreaseMonkey scripts for Yahoo! Groups, but if
anyone cares, let me know, I'll look at them and make a PithHelmet
equivalent.

--plambert

P.S. I don't use the web interface, so I didn't even know it changed.
:-)

On Apr 4, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Devon Jones wrote:

>
> John Rudd wrote:
>
>> Does it allow you to add content that's not there?
>>
>>
> Yes.  Some of the scripts that work with allmusic aggregate the
> information from multiple pages into one.
>
>> My biggest gripe with the new look isn't the look itself.  It's that
>> the "mygroups" page used to tell me how many pending messages and
>> pending memberships each group I moderate had ... and now it doesn't.
>> So I have to visit each group to find out.  That's a major reduction
>> in
>> usability.
>>
>>
>>
> None of the existing scripts do that, but it should be easy, because
> you
> can grab content from other pages using greasemonkey - they have a
> place
> where people can request additions to the scripts.
>
> Devon
>
>
> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
> PCGen's alpha build: http://www.legolas.org/pcgen/autobuilds
> PCGen's FAQ:
> http://www.evilsoft.org/pcgen/docs/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

The story of the release: still a lot of bug fixed, Eddy is taking the doc bull
by the horns and, drum roll please, we have Java 5 compatibility!

As usual, please pay particular attention to all the trackers that have been
closed to make sure the problems were really fixed. Also, if you encounter
problem, be sure to tell us which installation package you are using (full,
partial, alpha, win_install, alpha_win_install, mac_install). There may be
problems with a package that are not present with the other.

***Please note that the alpha data sets will now be included in a separate
package.***

For the complete release notes, see
<http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=27753&group_id=25576>.

You can download the files here:

pcgen580rc5_full.zip:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc5_full.zip?download>
PGP Signature:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc5_full.zip.sig?download>
SHA1 digest: FCAFE85198AA0073CA3949E47CD778AE30068AF1

pcgen580rc5_partial.zip:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc5_partial.zip?download>
PGP Signature:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc5_partial.zip.sig?download>
SHA1 digest: CA0656ED78FE5074C2EDC13188BFDDE7DDA04EE0

pcgen580rc4_alpha.zip:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc4_alpha.zip?download>
PGP Signature:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc4_alpha.zip.sig?download>
SHA1 digest: 8C6CD970D791211B7967A57FF0354A323A8F8C84

pcgen580rc4_win_install.exe:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc4_win_install.exe?download>
PGP Signature:
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgen/pcgen580rc4_win_install.exe.sig?downlo\
ad>
SHA1 digest: BC4C6AC713D36BA6D086BC61131DE0721E0A00B1

The Mac and Windows installers will be available in a day or two.

Best


-----------------------------------------------------------
Éric "Space Monkey" Beaudoin
Founding Member of the Hidden-in-the-Trench Club
Release Monkey and Syntax Watchdog
>> In space, no one can hear you sleep.
>> Camels to can climb trees (and sometime eat them).
<mailto:beaudoer@...>

I must be having trouble seeing the problem.  I see the tracker, but
no followups.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, <ravagon@b...> wrote:
>
>
> ============================================================
> From: "lonbarnett1957" <lonbarnett@a...>
> Date: 2005/04/04 må PM 11:41:13 GMT+02:00
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Ämne: [pcgen] FREQ - PREREGION
>
> I am working on some datasets for Living Greyhawk and ran across an
> anomly (I believe).  PREREGION takes only 1 value which makes
coding
> Feat that may be from many regions a arduous process.
>
> I would like to ask that PREREGION be treated the same as PRERACE,
> where there is a comma seperated list of regions, and any one of
them
> statisfies the PREREGION requirement.
>
> Discussion?
> ============================================================
> Hi!
>
> I already made a FREQ for this issue, when I came across this snag.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?
func=detail&aid=1026709&group_id=25576&atid=384722
>
> [TM]Ravgaon
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,

I was working on some own lst files concerning the Dragonlance
campaign I now play already for several years (we are just moving from
2nd AD&D to 3.5 D&D). We have some custom rules, so the lst files
differ on some points from the official rules and these are in no way
complete. I just created the items I need for building my Solamnic
Knight of the Rose in PCGen.

During this, I was thinking... why not creating the whole setting in
lst files... Some years ago I created the lst files for 'Auran D20',
so I have some experience.

Now, I'm wondering:
1) Is this setting already worked on? No point on duplicating the work
I think...
2) Does anybody know if we are allowed to create public lst files for
dragonlance? No point on starting to work on it, if we're not
allowed...

Further notice:

I don't have much free time. I think this work as something for
relaxing and hobbying... so don't expect it will be finished soon.
I'll take my time on it.

Regards,
zifnabbe

1) www.codemonkeypublishing.com has the Dragonlance campaign setting for sale
($7.00) in the Zoo Store.

2) No, you cannot create a public version because Dragonlance is not open
content.

If you wish to create one for yourself, go for it. "Publishing" or putting it on
the web, etc. is not allowed.

-- david
Papa-DRB
LN/E Moderator Monkey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zifnabbe [mailto:tom.deprez@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:02 AM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pcgen] Dragonlance...
>>
> Now, I'm wondering:
> 1) Is this setting already worked on? No point on duplicating
> the work I think...
> 2) Does anybody know if we are allowed to create public lst
> files for dragonlance? No point on starting to work on it, if
> we're not allowed...

Okay,

Thanks for the reply. I was already wondering why nobody started to
work on an official version for PCGEN :-)

Just a question: If I buy the setting. Do I than also buy the other
basic settings of codemonkeypublishing? (ie for compatibility reasons)

Regards,
zifnabbe


--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David" <Papa-DRB@h...> wrote:
> 1) www.codemonkeypublishing.com has the Dragonlance campaign setting
for sale ($7.00) in the Zoo Store.
>
> 2) No, you cannot create a public version because Dragonlance is not
open content.
>
> If you wish to create one for yourself, go for it. "Publishing" or
putting it on the web, etc. is not allowed.
>
> -- david
> Papa-DRB
> LN/E Moderator Monkey
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: zifnabbe [mailto:tom.deprez@v...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:02 AM
> > To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pcgen] Dragonlance...
> >>
> > Now, I'm wondering:
> > 1) Is this setting already worked on? No point on duplicating
> > the work I think...
> > 2) Does anybody know if we are allowed to create public lst
> > files for dragonlance? No point on starting to work on it, if
> > we're not allowed...

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Eddy Anthony <eddyba@m...> wrote:
> On 4/4/05 4:07 PM, "Frank Kliewe" <fkliewe@t...> wrote:
>
> > In debug mode when I tried to display the variables and entered
> > var("CL=Battlemind") I was corrected sometimes with BATTLEMIN
instead of
> > Battlemind, so I assume that BATTLEMIN might be an internal
variable and
> > that causes the problem.
>
> This issue popped up a few months back, I thought it had been dealt
with.
>
> If its the same issue PCGen is trying to parse the MIN in Battlemind
as a
> math operator making the assumption the "Battle" & "d" are VARs to
compare.
>
> If this is all contained in class lines we can fix this simply by
changing
> CL=Battlemind" to "CL" and be done with it. If its used outside of
the class
> lines like in hidden feats and such we have a more difficult problem.

It was a code bug and was fixed.

If it's back the bug is back.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "taluroniscandar" <mhgj@e...> wrote:
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Eddy Anthony <eddyba@m...> wrote:
> > On 4/4/05 4:07 PM, "Frank Kliewe" <fkliewe@t...> wrote:
> >
> > > In debug mode when I tried to display the variables and entered
> > > var("CL=Battlemind") I was corrected sometimes with BATTLEMIN
> instead of
> > > Battlemind, so I assume that BATTLEMIN might be an internal
> variable and
> > > that causes the problem.
> >
> > This issue popped up a few months back, I thought it had been dealt
> with.
> >
> > If its the same issue PCGen is trying to parse the MIN in Battlemind
> as a
> > math operator making the assumption the "Battle" & "d" are VARs to
> compare.
> >
> > If this is all contained in class lines we can fix this simply by
> changing
> > CL=Battlemind" to "CL" and be done with it. If its used outside of
> the class
> > lines like in hidden feats and such we have a more difficult problem.
>
> It was a code bug and was fixed.
>
> If it's back the bug is back.

For reference SF#1108368 closed by Furgal.

I'm pretty sure you have to buy the Core Set as well.

zifnabbe wrote:

>Okay,
>
>Thanks for the reply. I was already wondering why nobody started to
>work on an official version for PCGEN :-)
>
>Just a question: If I buy the setting. Do I than also buy the other
>basic settings of codemonkeypublishing? (ie for compatibility reasons)
>
>Regards,
>zifnabbe
>
>

--

Steven Gilroy
PCGen OS Lemur
"In a world without fences, who needs GATES?"

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Éric Beaudoin <beaudoer@v...> wrote:
> The Mac and Windows installers will be available in a day or two.

Eric, is the Windows installer going to be updated to Java 1.5?

Chuck

> I'm pretty sure you have to buy the Core Set as well.

Correct. CMP creates their datasets against their version of the core
rules. And their PHB/DMG/MM set is not the same as our SRD/RSRD set.

Paul W. King

TM SB, OGL/PL Chimp, Data Gibbon, BoD

I *think* that you would have to buy the Core Set (ie. PHB, DMG, MM) for 3.5,
but I am not sure. Code Monkey Publishing have their
own forums. You could ask there, or send an email to their customer service id.

-- david
Papa-DRB
LN/E Moderator Monkey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zifnabbe [mailto:tom.deprez@...]
>
> Thanks for the reply. I was already wondering why nobody
> started to work on an official version for PCGEN :-)
>
> Just a question: If I buy the setting. Do I than also buy the
> other basic settings of codemonkeypublishing? (ie for
> compatibility reasons)
>
> Regards,
> zifnabbe
>
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David" <Papa-DRB@h...> wrote:
> > 1) www.codemonkeypublishing.com has the Dragonlance campaign setting
> for sale ($7.00) in the Zoo Store.
> >
> > 2) No, you cannot create a public version because Dragonlance is not
> open content.
> >
> > If you wish to create one for yourself, go for it. "Publishing" or
> putting it on the web, etc. is not allowed.
> >
> > -- david
> > Papa-DRB
> > LN/E Moderator Monkey
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: zifnabbe [mailto:tom.deprez@v...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:02 AM
> > > To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [pcgen] Dragonlance...
> > >>
> > > Now, I'm wondering:
> > > 1) Is this setting already worked on? No point on duplicating
> > > the work I think...
> > > 2) Does anybody know if we are allowed to create public lst
> > > files for dragonlance? No point on starting to work on it, if
> > > we're not allowed...

<snip>
Morning all,

This may seem like a basic question, but I cannot figure out from the
docs how to select this or if it's being properly created in the
expected directory.

I have a Monte Cook Sorceror in a 3E game.  I do have the CMP 3E files.

I am trying to create a pcc that will allow me to load the lst files
from CMP along with the permissioned files from PCGen release.  I have
created several PCC files, have not found a single place where I can
select the file I've created and they don't show up in my souce
selection window.

Please help.

Thanks, Michael
</snip>

Michael I put the tracker in for that last night and James fixed it
already :)

Look at
<https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384719&aid=1176582&gr
oup_id=25576>.

It might have even made it into the newest RC. Not sure about that. It's
definitly in the autobuilds.

Paul G.

That's a pitty...

So because of the fact that Dragonlance isn't OGL and people would
like to use PCGen for creating their Dragonlance characters, you've
either to:

1. Buy the core & dragonlance sets from CMP; but this will make all
other open PCGen lst files unusable.
2. Manage your own custom dragonlance set

This is a sad circumstance.


--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Paul W. King" <paulking.rhochi@v...> wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure you have to buy the Core Set as well.
>
> Correct. CMP creates their datasets against their version of the core
> rules. And their PHB/DMG/MM set is not the same as our SRD/RSRD set.
>
> Paul W. King
>
> TM SB, OGL/PL Chimp, Data Gibbon, BoD

Not true.  All other open PCGen LST files will still work, just not with
the CMP data sets.
It is sad for the end user, but that's business.  Unfortunatelly
publishers believe that if the datasets are given out for free people
won't buy the books and they won't make any money.  But that's a whole
other argument that has happened far to many times and has gotten far to
dirty on these boards.

zifnabbe wrote:

>That's a pitty...
>
>So because of the fact that Dragonlance isn't OGL and people would
>like to use PCGen for creating their Dragonlance characters, you've
>either to:
>
>1. Buy the core & dragonlance sets from CMP; but this will make all
>other open PCGen lst files unusable.
>2. Manage your own custom dragonlance set
>
>This is a sad circumstance.
>
>
>
--

Steven Gilroy
PCGen OS Lemur
"In a world without fences, who needs GATES?"