----- Original Message -----
From: "chris" <waxman80014@...>
To: <pcgen@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: [pcgen] Re: Help with creating a new race


> Yes it is, look for races that are like the one you want to make in
> the data files...

Yep, I was hoping to just use the .lst editor. It doesn't work. Oh well,
back to doing it with pencil & paper.

>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Feller" <martinfeller@s...>
> wrote:
> > Is it possible to create a humanoid race with more than one hit
> die...
> >
> > ...using only the lst editor? I've only got an hour or two to do
> it, and
> > figured it should be pretty simple, but it isn't.

Custom races that I create with bonuses to stat show a stat bonus in the
"Race Adj" column, followed by and equal penalty in the "Other Adj" column.
If I cut-n-paste the race into one of the main lst files, it still does the
same thing.

I have spent the last two hours messing around with this stupid thing, with
nothing to show for it but a headache. What a colossal waste of time. Why
not just gray out the option until it actually works, rather than get us
code-impaired folks' hopes up?

Hi Martin,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Feller" <martinfeller@...>
To: <pcgen@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 4:25 PM
Subject: [pcgen] LST Editor is FUBAR


> Custom races that I create with bonuses to stat show a stat bonus in the
> "Race Adj" column, followed by and equal penalty in the "Other Adj"
column.
> If I cut-n-paste the race into one of the main lst files, it still does
the
> same thing.
>
This behaviour is normally associated with a problem processing the
character, particularly the age settings. What version of PCGen are you
using?

> I have spent the last two hours messing around with this stupid thing,
with
> nothing to show for it but a headache. What a colossal waste of time. Why
> not just gray out the option until it actually works, rather than get us
> code-impaired folks' hopes up?
>
I know that classes don't work for level based benefits (it's on my much
neglected to-do list), but in the 5.6 release, races should work correctly
for most normal things. Please feel free to send me your custom race and
bioset files and I will check out what is wrong.

Cheers,
-------------------------------------------
James Dempsey
JDempsey@...
PCGEN Code Monkey

Hi all. I have just started useing PCGen and am trying to create a
half-elf cleric useing SRD basic 3.0 rules.
I have put in the race and class, but when I go to the domains tab, I
can't work out how to add the deity. I click on the choose button but
nothing happens.
What am I doing wrong????

My newbie question is how does one add their familiar?  I can't figure that one
out.

I did figure out how to add the domains but not any deities.  I entered in the
information on Murlynd but couldn't get him listed as my deity.


David McMahon
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when nobody is looking."
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Brian
   To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:55 AM
   Subject: [pcgen] How do I ??? (Newbie question)


   Hi all. I have just started useing PCGen and am trying to create a
   half-elf cleric useing SRD basic 3.0 rules.
   I have put in the race and class, but when I go to the domains tab, I
   can't work out how to add the deity. I click on the choose button but
   nothing happens.
   What am I doing wrong????



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|ALIGNMENT.SHORT| is listed as a field in the Help but it doesn't "merge"
(is that the term?) when you create the output sheet. You get
ALIGNMENT.SHORT in the output. Is there a field for this?

DMF Todd

I have a question about CMP. Plainly are the data sets working?  I
own boks, but I don't have the time to individually place every bit
of info from them into PCGEn....although it would be fun to try.

SO I was hoping that maybe someone who has purchased a data set or
two cold give me a headsup as to whether opr not I should spend the
money for them.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David McMahon" <dmcmahon1@e...> wrote:
> My newbie question is how does one add their familiar?
> I can't figure that one out.

Familiars are added through the "Resources" tab under Inventory.

> I did figure out how to add the domains but not any deities.
> I entered in the information on Murlynd but couldn't get him
> listed as my deity.

After adding your deity via the "Deity Editor", did you restart
PCGen to see if it appears?

> David McMahon
> dmcmahon1@e...
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> when nobody is looking."
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>   Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:55 AM
>   Subject: [pcgen] How do I ??? (Newbie question)
>
>
>   Hi all. I have just started useing PCGen and am trying to create
a
>   half-elf cleric useing SRD basic 3.0 rules.
>   I have put in the race and class, but when I go to the domains
tab, I
>   can't work out how to add the deity. I click on the choose
button but
>   nothing happens.
>   What am I doing wrong????
>
>
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No, I didn't try to restart it.  Will try that next.  thanks  :-)

David McMahon
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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Sigurdur H. Olafsson
   To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:34 PM
   Subject: [pcgen] Re: How do I ??? (Newbie question)


   --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David McMahon" <dmcmahon1@e...> wrote:
   > My newbie question is how does one add their familiar?
   > I can't figure that one out.

   Familiars are added through the "Resources" tab under Inventory.

   > I did figure out how to add the domains but not any deities.
   > I entered in the information on Murlynd but couldn't get him
   > listed as my deity.

   After adding your deity via the "Deity Editor", did you restart
   PCGen to see if it appears?

   > David McMahon
   > dmcmahon1@e...
   > "Character is doing the right thing
   > when nobody is looking."
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Brian
   >   To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
   >   Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:55 AM
   >   Subject: [pcgen] How do I ??? (Newbie question)
   >
   >
   >   Hi all. I have just started useing PCGen and am trying to create
   a
   >   half-elf cleric useing SRD basic 3.0 rules.
   >   I have put in the race and class, but when I go to the domains
   tab, I
   >   can't work out how to add the deity. I click on the choose
   button but
   >   nothing happens.
   >   What am I doing wrong????
   >
   >
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I bought most of the data sets and would have to say that yes, they work as
advertised, and if you are like me, lazy, well worth the 5 bucks or so a
pop.

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mat cauthon [mailto:sith_polynikes@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:32 PM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pcgen] Data sets?
>
>
> I have a question about CMP. Plainly are the data sets working?  I
> own boks, but I don't have the time to individually place every bit
> of info from them into PCGEn....although it would be fun to try.
>
> SO I was hoping that maybe someone who has purchased a data set or
> two cold give me a headsup as to whether opr not I should spend the
> money for them.
>
>
>
>
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Ok last night I created my first character and saved it. Today I go
back to finish it up and it has been opening the character for over
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--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Jayme Cox <jayme@r...> wrote:
> dlm1065 wrote:
> > The wiki
> >
> > http://pcgendm.sourceforge.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DLM/WorkingFolder
>
> There are things like:
>
> Calc(MIN(Max Dex,Stat.Dex Mod))</value>
>
> Why is "Max Dex" not prefaced with something like the "Stat.Dex
Mod" is?
> Is "Max Dex" an absolute value calculated somewhere else? Is it a
> property of the armor you are wearing or the load you are carrying?
>
> It's even more confusing when you have ones like:
>
> Calc(Arm B+Shld B+Size M+Nat AC+Defl M+Misc M)</value>
>
> What is "Misc M"? Shouldn't that be "AC.Misc M"?


MaxDex is a "defined" var not a modifier so therefore I handled it
differently. Look under the stat dex see the <define></define>. I did
it differently purposely. MaxDex is a global var that is associated
with a stat so it made sense to define it within the stat but it is
not a stat modifier.

All the values in the Calc are within the AC object. Since there were
no external references I did not add the "<object>." it seemed to
make the formulas extremely bulky to add explicit references when the
values where all internal to the object, so I just added the explicit
reference to point to values outside of the object.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, David Finch <david.finch@i...> wrote:
> Jayme Cox wrote:
> > dlm1065 wrote:
> >>The wiki
> >>http://pcgendm.sourceforge.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DLM/WorkingFolder
> > Calc(Arm B+Shld B+Size M+Nat AC+Defl M+Misc M)</value>
> > What is "Misc M"? Shouldn't that be "AC.Misc M"?
>
> I know that this is XML and all but why do variables have to have
spaces.
> "Arm B+Shld B" does not read well in whatever programming language
or
> algebra you are used to.
>
> --
> David Allan Finch - Unix/X/C++/Java Programmer, and Sys/Mail/DB/Net
Admin
> Sun(tm) Certified System Administrator for Solaris(tm) 2.6
> Development Department - IPA Systems Ltd - Salfords England EU
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Other than a lack of feedbackt he reason I  U/L the files here on Y!
is in part the issues the WIKI formating is causing to the xml
samples. If you pull the xml files in the folder here you will see
there are no spaces inside the names. The wiki thought the names were
wiki words and therefore it formatted them as wikiwords. Example

    AbcD
becomes formated
    Abc D?

take a look at the xml in the files here and give me a responce to
them thanks

> I bought most of the data sets and would have to say that yes, they work as
> advertised, and if you are like me, lazy, well worth the 5 bucks or so a
> pop.

I agree, though only from the perspective of a two-set-purchase :)


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04/04/2004 9:21:13 PM

I don't want to output the Known Spells spellbook for my Cleric NPCs,
but instead want to output the "Memorized Spells" spellbook, which I
have added to it.  Can this be done?  IIRC, there used to be a dropdown
to let me set that, but it's not there in 5.6

Thanks.

-Greg G


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I don't want to output the Known Spells spellbook for my Cleric NPCs,
but instead want to output the "Memorized Spells" spellbook, which I
have added to it.  Can this be done?  IIRC, there used to be a dropdown
to let me set that, but it's not there in 5.6

Thanks.

-Greg G


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dlm1065 wrote:
> Other than a lack of feedbackt he reason I  U/L the files here on Y!
> is in part the issues the WIKI formating is causing to the xml
> samples. If you pull the xml files in the folder here you will see
> there are no spaces inside the names. The wiki thought the names were
> wiki words and therefore it formatted them as wikiwords. Example

IC thanks. Shame that the wiki does not have a 'not a wiki word' operator :(

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On 4/5/04 2:47 PM, "David Finch" <david.finch@...> wrote:

> dlm1065 wrote:
>> Other than a lack of feedbackt he reason I  U/L the files here on Y!
>> is in part the issues the WIKI formating is causing to the xml
>> samples. If you pull the xml files in the folder here you will see
>> there are no spaces inside the names. The wiki thought the names were
>> wiki words and therefore it formatted them as wikiwords. Example
>
> IC thanks. Shame that the wiki does not have a 'not a wiki word' operator :(

But there is, from the Wiki documentation:

Escape sequence

Anything placed between [= and =] is not interpreted by PmWiki. This makes
it possible to easily do WikiWords that are not links and turn off other
special formatting interpretation. The [= and =] can span multiple input
lines, allowing effects to be applied to multiple input lines. For example,
space+[= at the beginning of a line will cause the text up to the next =] to
be monospace and uninterpreted by PmWiki (useful for program listings).
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On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 07:47:00PM +0100, David Finch wrote:
> dlm1065 wrote:
> > Other than a lack of feedbackt he reason I  U/L the files here on Y!
> > is in part the issues the WIKI formating is causing to the xml
> > samples. If you pull the xml files in the folder here you will see
> > there are no spaces inside the names. The wiki thought the names were
> > wiki words and therefore it formatted them as wikiwords. Example
>
> IC thanks. Shame that the wiki does not have a 'not a wiki word'
> operator :(

Actually, I think it does.  I forget offhand what it is, though.


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"it is not regonized as an internal or external command"
  yet i can browse through and find the file and its comtents
ps thanks for the reply






--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Paul W. King" <paulking.rhochi@v...>
wrote:
> What do you get when you type this at the command prompt:
>
> java -version
>
> Paul W. King
> OGL SB, PL Chimp, Data Tamarin, TM Lemur, BoD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ragingpc [mailto:ragingpc@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:02 PM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pcgen] pcgen RE: running java
>
>
> ok i have java loaded into the system but for some reason the
blasted
> PCgen WONT freeking run my brother has ran over it and he and i
both
> cant figure  out  where its messing up at note:: my windows 2000 is
> not registering  the java application even though is is there  and
> its showing on my pc i so anyone have an answer or idea let me know
> any suggestion would be help ful.

In other words it's not in the system path. Looks like someone did a
private installation. Copy the java.exe file to the winnt\system32\ directory.

"Private vs. public J2RE - Installing the Java 2 SDK installs a private
Java 2 Runtime Environment and optionally a public copy. The private J2RE
is required to run the tools included with the Java 2 SDK. It has no
registry settings and is contained entirely in a jre directory (typically
at C:\Program Files\j2sdk1.4.2\jre) whose location is known only to the
SDK. On the other hand, the public J2RE can be used by other Java
applications, is contained outside the SDK (typically at C:\Program
Files\Java\j2re1.4.2), is registered with the Windows registry (at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft), can be removed using Add/Remove
Programs, might or might not be registered with browsers, and might or
might not have java.exe copied to the Windows system directory (making it
the default system Java platform or not)."

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At 05:11 AM 6/04/2004, you wrote:

>"it is not regonized as an internal or external command"
>yet i can browse through and find the file and its comtents
>ps thanks for the reply
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Paul W. King" <paulking.rhochi@v...>
>wrote:
> > What do you get when you type this at the command prompt:
> >
> > java -version
> >
> > Paul W. King
> > OGL SB, PL Chimp, Data Tamarin, TM Lemur, BoD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ragingpc [mailto:ragingpc@y...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:02 PM
> > To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pcgen] pcgen RE: running java
> >
> >
> > ok i have java loaded into the system but for some reason the
>blasted
> > PCgen WONT freeking run my brother has ran over it and he and i
>both
> > cant figure  out  where its messing up at note:: my windows 2000 is
> > not registering  the java application even though is is there  and
> > its showing on my pc i so anyone have an answer or idea let me know
> > any suggestion would be help ful.
>
>
>
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In a BONUS:SKILLRANK structure, is there a variable that keeps track of the
ranks in specific skills.
Example: I want to make a seperate skill for Use Magic Device, relating to
scrolls, seeing you get Synergies off of other skills. So in programming theory,
you just set a BONUS:SKILLRANK tag equal to the ranks in Use Magic Device.
Is there an easy way to accomplish this, or am I going to have to define my own
variables? and again, how do you get the file to recognize how many ranks you
have in a skill?

thanks
//john

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John @nderson wrote:

>In a BONUS:SKILLRANK structure, is there a variable that keeps track of the
ranks in specific skills.
>Example: I want to make a seperate skill for Use Magic Device, relating to
scrolls, seeing you get Synergies off of other skills. So in programming theory,
you just set a BONUS:SKILLRANK tag equal to the ranks in Use Magic Device.
>Is there an easy way to accomplish this, or am I going to have to define my own
variables? and again, how do you get the file to recognize how many ranks you
have in a skill?
>

BONUS:SKILLRANK|MyNewSkill|SKILL.Use Magic Device.RANK

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<quote who="John @nderson">
> In a BONUS:SKILLRANK structure, is there a variable that keeps track of
> the ranks in specific skills.
> Example: I want to make a seperate skill for Use Magic Device, relating to
> scrolls, seeing you get Synergies off of other skills. So in programming
> theory, you just set a BONUS:SKILLRANK tag equal to the ranks in Use Magic
> Device.
> Is there an easy way to accomplish this, or am I going to have to define
> my own variables? and again, how do you get the file to recognize how many
> ranks you have in a skill?

In the RSRD (data/d20ogl/srd35/rsrd_skills.lst) "Survival (Underground)"
is based off of "Survival" in the same way:

Survival
     KEYSTAT:WIS
     TYPE:Wisdom
     SOURCEPAGE:SkillsII.rtf

Survival (Underground)
     KEYSTAT:WIS
     EXCLUSIVE:YES
     TYPE:Wisdom
     SOURCEPAGE:SkillsII.rtf
     BONUS:SKILLRANK|Survival (Underground)|Survival.RANK



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Hello,

I'm fairly new to PCGen and I have a question.  I am currently at
work [don't tell anybody :)] and don't have any of my books handy so
I am not sure if this is a bug or something I'm not remembering.  I
am creating a character with a 14 INT (+2 bonus).  When I give him 4
ranks in the Craft(Bowmaking) skill he ends up with a +4 modifier.
The character sheet shows the +4 for ranks and +2 for INT bonus, but
it also shows a -2 for misc. modifier.  I've tried several different
craft skills and this is always the case.  The Craft(untrained)
skill does not show the -2 modifier.

Is this a bug or am I forgetting about some kind of check penalty?
The character wears +1 Chain shirt (armour check penaly of 1) so I
don't think that is it.  I am using v5.60 on a machine running WinXP
Pro.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

PcGen automatically applies a -2 to all craft skills unless you have the
appropriate craft tools equipped.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "silk156" <silk156@...>
To: <pcgen@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:51 AM
Subject: [pcgen] Craft Skill


> Hello,
>
> I'm fairly new to PCGen and I have a question.  I am currently at
> work [don't tell anybody :)] and don't have any of my books handy so
> I am not sure if this is a bug or something I'm not remembering.  I
> am creating a character with a 14 INT (+2 bonus).  When I give him 4
> ranks in the Craft(Bowmaking) skill he ends up with a +4 modifier.
> The character sheet shows the +4 for ranks and +2 for INT bonus, but
> it also shows a -2 for misc. modifier.  I've tried several different
> craft skills and this is always the case.  The Craft(untrained)
> skill does not show the -2 modifier.
>
> Is this a bug or am I forgetting about some kind of check penalty?
> The character wears +1 Chain shirt (armour check penaly of 1) so I
> don't think that is it.  I am using v5.60 on a machine running WinXP
> Pro.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I've run into that too.  The fix is to load the sources before
loading the character.   On the source tab hit the Load All button
for the soruces, THEN load the character.  Pretty much instant.

I suspect that part of the problem are some old files that I'm still
using, but haven't gone to the trouble to try to isolate it.



--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Dale" <cuddley_eeyore@y...> wrote:
> Ok last night I created my first character and saved it. Today I
go
> back to finish it up and it has been opening the character for
over
> 20 minutes now. Any idea's?

There is a -2 penalty if he doesn't have the craft tools that he needs at
hand.  Equip him with the appropriate tool set and this -2 should go away.

The Cat.Dragon

   _____

From: silk156 [mailto:silk156@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:51 AM
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pcgen] Craft Skill


Hello,

I'm fairly new to PCGen and I have a question.  I am currently at
work [don't tell anybody :)] and don't have any of my books handy so
I am not sure if this is a bug or something I'm not remembering.  I
am creating a character with a 14 INT (+2 bonus).  When I give him 4
ranks in the Craft(Bowmaking) skill he ends up with a +4 modifier.
The character sheet shows the +4 for ranks and +2 for INT bonus, but
it also shows a -2 for misc. modifier.  I've tried several different
craft skills and this is always the case.  The Craft(untrained)
skill does not show the -2 modifier.

Is this a bug or am I forgetting about some kind of check penalty?
The character wears +1 Chain shirt (armour check penaly of 1) so I
don't think that is it.  I am using v5.60 on a machine running WinXP
Pro.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.





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On 4/6/04 10:51 AM, "silk156" <silk156@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm fairly new to PCGen and I have a question.  I am currently at
> work [don't tell anybody :)] and don't have any of my books handy so
> I am not sure if this is a bug or something I'm not remembering.  I
> am creating a character with a 14 INT (+2 bonus).  When I give him 4
> ranks in the Craft(Bowmaking) skill he ends up with a +4 modifier.
> The character sheet shows the +4 for ranks and +2 for INT bonus, but
> it also shows a -2 for misc. modifier.  I've tried several different
> craft skills and this is always the case.  The Craft(untrained)
> skill does not show the -2 modifier.
>
> Is this a bug or am I forgetting about some kind of check penalty?
> The character wears +1 Chain shirt (armour check penaly of 1) so I
> don't think that is it.  I am using v5.60 on a machine running WinXP
> Pro.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Try equiping your character with bowmaking tools. Cuurently there is a
penalty to certain skills (Craft skills, pick lock and ride) unless you have
the nessissary tools for the job.

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~ Eddy
~ Doc Chimp, Data Tamarin
~ PCGen BoD Documentation Second