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#109405 From: "Paul" <nylanfs@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Can't interact with spells
nylanfs
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When you double click the Oracle on the Known Spells does it not drop down and
show different levels of spells?

If you double click spells in those levels they become known spells and you can
prepare them.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Timothy Reaves <treaves@...> wrote:
>
>  I'm running 6.0.0 on a Mac, running OS X 10.8.2 .  When I open my character,
an Oracle using the Pathfinder rules, and go to the Spells/Known Spells tab, I
can see Oracle and a disclosure triangle, but, nothing else.  I can not open the
Oracle to see any spells.  The same for the Prepared Spells tab.
>
>  Is this a general bug, a Mac bug, or am I doing something incorrectly?
>
>  Thanks.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#109406 From: Timothy Reaves <treaves@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:15 am
Subject: Re: Re: Can't interact with spells
silverfields1
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No, that does not happen.  Nothing does.


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Paul <nylanfs@...> wrote:

> When you double click the Oracle on the Known Spells does it not drop down
> and show different levels of spells?
>
> If you double click spells in those levels they become known spells and
> you can prepare them.
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Timothy Reaves <treaves@...> wrote:
> >
> >       I'm running 6.0.0 on a Mac, running OS X 10.8.2 .  When I open my
> character, an Oracle using the Pathfinder rules, and go to the Spells/Known
> Spells tab, I can see Oracle and a disclosure triangle, but, nothing else.
>  I can not open the Oracle to see any spells.  The same for the Prepared
> Spells tab.
> >
> >       Is this a general bug, a Mac bug, or am I doing something
> incorrectly?
> >
> >       Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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#109407 From: "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:17 am
Subject: Re: Can't interact with spells
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Well, Oracles do not prepare spells so you wont' see anything on the
prepared spells tab. You should be able to open the "triangle" and
select oracle spells on the spells known tab.

Otherwise, it might be a mac bug and I am on windows.

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On 12/7/2012 7:47 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote:
>  I'm running 6.0.0 on a Mac, running OS X 10.8.2 .  When I open my character,
an Oracle using the Pathfinder rules, and go to the Spells/Known Spells tab, I
can see Oracle and a disclosure triangle, but, nothing else.  I can not open the
Oracle to see any spells.  The same for the Prepared Spells tab.
>
>  Is this a general bug, a Mac bug, or am I doing something incorrectly?
>
>  Thanks.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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#109408 From: Timothy Reaves <treaves@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:20 am
Subject: Re: Can't interact with spells
silverfields1
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As I stated, this is on Known Spells tab, and the others too.


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:17 PM, David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:

> Well, Oracles do not prepare spells so you wont' see anything on the
> prepared spells tab. You should be able to open the "triangle" and
> select oracle spells on the spells known tab.
>
> Otherwise, it might be a mac bug and I am on windows.
>
> -- david
> Papa.DRB
>
> My better half and me (jpg)
> <
>
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0114610
> >
>
> Love Me If You Can by Toby Keith (video)
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhcfFekSbHQ&ob=av3e>
>
> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
> On 12/7/2012 7:47 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote:
> >       I'm running 6.0.0 on a Mac, running OS X 10.8.2 .  When I open my
> character, an Oracle using the Pathfinder rules, and go to the Spells/Known
> Spells tab, I can see Oracle and a disclosure triangle, but, nothing else.
>  I can not open the Oracle to see any spells.  The same for the Prepared
> Spells tab.
> >
> >       Is this a general bug, a Mac bug, or am I doing something
> incorrectly?
> >
> >       Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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#109409 From: "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:29 am
Subject: Re: Can't interact with spells
papa_drb
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What version were you running before the upgrade? What level of Java are
you using?

-- david
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Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
On 12/7/2012 8:20 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote:
> As I stated, this is on Known Spells tab, and the others too.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:17 PM, David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:
>
>> Well, Oracles do not prepare spells so you wont' see anything on the
>> prepared spells tab. You should be able to open the "triangle" and
>> select oracle spells on the spells known tab.
>>
>> Otherwise, it might be a mac bug and I am on windows.
>>
>> -- david
>> Papa.DRB
>>
>> My better half and me (jpg)
>> <
>>
https://picasaweb.google.com/102726903532570043857/Family#slideshow/553305694891\
0114610
>> Love Me If You Can by Toby Keith (video)
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhcfFekSbHQ&ob=av3e>
>>
>> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
>> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
>> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
>> On 12/7/2012 7:47 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote:
>>>        I'm running 6.0.0 on a Mac, running OS X 10.8.2 .  When I open my
>> character, an Oracle using the Pathfinder rules, and go to the Spells/Known
>> Spells tab, I can see Oracle and a disclosure triangle, but, nothing else.
>>   I can not open the Oracle to see any spells.  The same for the Prepared
>> Spells tab.
>>>        Is this a general bug, a Mac bug, or am I doing something
>> incorrectly?
>>>        Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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#109410 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:57 am
Subject: Re: Magus & Spell-Blending
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Hi Rob,

Oh you can, but it's the cost vs. benefit. You're doing that for every spell.
Hence my statement
it's possible but not really worth the effort.

On 12/7/2012 2:05 PM, Maredudd wrote:
> Oh, hi Rob!  :-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Maredudd <maredudd@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks!
>>
>> Kar wrote:
>>
>>> It lives ;-)
>>>
>> Took the words right out of my mouth! :-)
>>> mynex wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
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#109411 From: "Rob" <mynex@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 2:04 am
Subject: RE: Magus & Spell-Blending
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Is there some reason it couldn't be done by TYPE (Or Descriptor) with a
bunch of PRExxx tags?

W. Robert Reed III
Mynex

-----Original Message-----
From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:57 PM
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending

Hi Rob,

Oh you can, but it's the cost vs. benefit. You're doing that for every
spell. Hence my statement it's possible but not really worth the effort.

#109412 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 2:15 am
Subject: Re: Magus & Spell-Blending
Drew0500
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Hi,

The question presented is Choosing a Spell, and Adding the spell to the
Spellbook.

We can easily do the first part with a simple choose. CHOOSE:SPELLS is quite
versatile.
It's the second part that can't be done easily (Well, actually we can't add
anything to a spell book
today, we can add it to your known list).

You can easily set up pairings like this:

ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Grant Magus Spell ~
Foo|PREABILITY:1,CATEGORY=Special
Ability,Chooser Ability(Foo)
Now, you'll get the Grant Magus Spell ~ Foo if the chooser has selected spell
Foo. Easy to do. Now,
rinse and repeat for every spell. Labor intense and doesn't cover any additional
source books that
increase the Magus's spell list.

I don't see an easy method for an automatic method to handle that today with any
other set up. For
today, you can mainly add the spell to the ability to note it. And then the user
needs to manually
add it themselves. (You can do a Bonus for a Known spell easily enough, if
that's what you were
alluding to before, doesn't cover what the OP wanted, but does allow the end
user the additional
spell in a legit manner).


On 12/8/2012 6:04 PM, Rob wrote:
> Is there some reason it couldn't be done by TYPE (Or Descriptor) with a
> bunch of PRExxx tags?
>
> W. Robert Reed III
> Mynex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:57 PM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Oh you can, but it's the cost vs. benefit. You're doing that for every
> spell. Hence my statement it's possible but not really worth the effort.
>
>
>
>
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#109413 From: "Rob" <mynex@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 2:43 am
Subject: RE: Magus & Spell-Blending
mynex2k1
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I guess I'm missing something in the understanding here... why can't we do a
TYPE=Arcane rather than setting up for each spell?  We can do this with
skills and feats - Weapon focus being a an example that comes to mind...  or
an 'ability' example... ranger's favored X ability chain...

If we can set it up to choose and put it on/in the known spells, then the
user can put it in the spell book themselves...

W. Robert Reed III
Mynex

-----Original Message-----
From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:15 PM
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending

Hi,

The question presented is Choosing a Spell, and Adding the spell to the
Spellbook.

We can easily do the first part with a simple choose. CHOOSE:SPELLS is quite
versatile.
It's the second part that can't be done easily (Well, actually we can't add
anything to a spell book today, we can add it to your known list).

You can easily set up pairings like this:

ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Grant Magus Spell ~
Foo|PREABILITY:1,CATEGORY=Special Ability,Chooser Ability(Foo) Now, you'll
get the Grant Magus Spell ~ Foo if the chooser has selected spell Foo. Easy
to do. Now, rinse and repeat for every spell. Labor intense and doesn't
cover any additional source books that increase the Magus's spell list.

I don't see an easy method for an automatic method to handle that today with
any other set up. For today, you can mainly add the spell to the ability to
note it. And then the user needs to manually add it themselves. (You can do
a Bonus for a Known spell easily enough, if that's what you were alluding to
before, doesn't cover what the OP wanted, but does allow the end user the
additional spell in a legit manner).


On 12/8/2012 6:04 PM, Rob wrote:
> Is there some reason it couldn't be done by TYPE (Or Descriptor) with
> a bunch of PRExxx tags?
>
> W. Robert Reed III
> Mynex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andrew
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:57 PM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Oh you can, but it's the cost vs. benefit. You're doing that for every
> spell. Hence my statement it's possible but not really worth the effort.
>
>

#109414 From: "Paul" <nylanfs@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 3:02 am
Subject: Download statistics for 6.0.0
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#109415 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 3:46 am
Subject: Re: Magus & Spell-Blending
Drew0500
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Hi,

The main reason is AUTO tags and Bonus tags.

CHOOSE:WEAPONPROFICIENCY coupled with BONUS:WEAPONPROF=%LIST|TOHIT|1 or
AUTO:WEAPONPROF|%LIST

Spells don't have the proper AUTO and Bonus tags to be used the same way. You
have SPELLLEVEL and
SPELLKNOWN and those do NOT take '%LIST' without that it's an arduous process of
coding each spell
by hand. We need Code Support.

I'll break it down further if you need later.... have a game tonight, and have
the players showing
up now.



On 12/8/2012 6:43 PM, Rob wrote:
> I guess I'm missing something in the understanding here... why can't we do a
> TYPE=Arcane rather than setting up for each spell?  We can do this with
> skills and feats - Weapon focus being a an example that comes to mind...  or
> an 'ability' example... ranger's favored X ability chain...
>
> If we can set it up to choose and put it on/in the known spells, then the
> user can put it in the spell book themselves...
>
> W. Robert Reed III
> Mynex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:15 PM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending
>
> Hi,
>
> The question presented is Choosing a Spell, and Adding the spell to the
> Spellbook.
>
> We can easily do the first part with a simple choose. CHOOSE:SPELLS is quite
> versatile.
> It's the second part that can't be done easily (Well, actually we can't add
> anything to a spell book today, we can add it to your known list).
>
> You can easily set up pairings like this:
>
> ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Grant Magus Spell ~
> Foo|PREABILITY:1,CATEGORY=Special Ability,Chooser Ability(Foo) Now, you'll
> get the Grant Magus Spell ~ Foo if the chooser has selected spell Foo. Easy
> to do. Now, rinse and repeat for every spell. Labor intense and doesn't
> cover any additional source books that increase the Magus's spell list.
>
> I don't see an easy method for an automatic method to handle that today with
> any other set up. For today, you can mainly add the spell to the ability to
> note it. And then the user needs to manually add it themselves. (You can do
> a Bonus for a Known spell easily enough, if that's what you were alluding to
> before, doesn't cover what the OP wanted, but does allow the end user the
> additional spell in a legit manner).
>
>
> On 12/8/2012 6:04 PM, Rob wrote:
>> Is there some reason it couldn't be done by TYPE (Or Descriptor) with
>> a bunch of PRExxx tags?
>>
>> W. Robert Reed III
>> Mynex
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Andrew
>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:57 PM
>> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Oh you can, but it's the cost vs. benefit. You're doing that for every
>> spell. Hence my statement it's possible but not really worth the effort.
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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#109416 From: "draelvik" <smrt_mchl@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 1:48 am
Subject: How do I load other Pathfinder source books onto PCGen?
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I'd like to make more use of PCGen now that it's seen improvement, but I need it
to be able to access the UC, UM, and other such books. APG and ARG would be nice
too. Is there any way to get them onto the PCGen database?

#109417 From: "Dana" <dana.reale@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 2:33 am
Subject: Finding the Starchild (Desna) Trait?
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Good evening!

I am having difficulty finding the Starchid (Desna) trait from the Advanced
Players Guide:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/starchild

If the trait is in the current build (I am running v6.00.0), perhaps there is a
certain order I need to select things in before it becomes visible?

I am a human druid, neutral good alignment, and I have chosen Desna as my Deity.

I have made sure that "Advanced Players Guide" has been selected as my source.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give!

#109418 From: "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:06 am
Subject: Re: How do I load other Pathfinder source books onto PCGen?
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APG is there, UC & UM are there but very alpha. ARG is not available yet.

To access them, use the "advanced" data set loader, not basic.

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On 12/7/2012 8:48 PM, draelvik wrote:
> I'd like to make more use of PCGen now that it's seen improvement, but I need
it to be able to access the UC, UM, and other such books. APG and ARG would be
nice too. Is there any way to get them onto the PCGen database?

#109419 From: "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:10 am
Subject: Re: Finding the Starchild (Desna) Trait?
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Are you looking under the "religion" traits on the traits tab? Itis there.

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On 12/7/2012 9:33 PM, Dana wrote:
> Good evening!
>
> I am having difficulty finding the Starchid (Desna) trait from the Advanced
Players Guide:
> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/starchild
>
> If the trait is in the current build (I am running v6.00.0), perhaps there is
a certain order I need to select things in before it becomes visible?
>
> I am a human druid, neutral good alignment, and I have chosen Desna as my
Deity.
>
> I have made sure that "Advanced Players Guide" has been selected as my source.
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give!

#109421 From: "draelvik" <smrt_mchl@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:18 am
Subject: Re: How do I load other Pathfinder source books onto PCGen?
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Thank you. I noticed while loading them that some selections are colored in red
text. Does that mean they don't work or something else?

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:
>
> APG is there, UC & UM are there but very alpha. ARG is not available yet.
>
> To access them, use the "advanced" data set loader, not basic.
>
> -- david
> Papa.DRB
>
> My better half and me (jpg)
>
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>
> Love Me If You Can by Toby Keith (video)
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhcfFekSbHQ&ob=av3e>
>
> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
> On 12/7/2012 8:48 PM, draelvik wrote:
> > I'd like to make more use of PCGen now that it's seen improvement, but I
need it to be able to access the UC, UM, and other such books. APG and ARG would
be nice too. Is there any way to get them onto the PCGen database?
>

#109422 From: "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:29 am
Subject: Re: Re: How do I load other Pathfinder source books onto PCGen?
papa_drb
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that means that they have a dependency on something else,for instance
you must load the core rulebook before the apg will not be red, etc.

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On 12/7/2012 11:18 PM, draelvik wrote:
> Thank you. I noticed while loading them that some selections are colored in
red text. Does that mean they don't work or something else?
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:
>> APG is there, UC & UM are there but very alpha. ARG is not available yet.
>>
>> To access them, use the "advanced" data set loader, not basic.
>>
>> -- david
>> Papa.DRB
>>
>> My better half and me (jpg)
>>
<https://picasaweb.google.com/102726903532570043857/Family#slideshow/55330569489\
10114610>
>>
>> Love Me If You Can by Toby Keith (video)
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhcfFekSbHQ&ob=av3e>
>>
>> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
>> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
>> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
>> On 12/7/2012 8:48 PM, draelvik wrote:
>>> I'd like to make more use of PCGen now that it's seen improvement, but I
need it to be able to access the UC, UM, and other such books. APG and ARG would
be nice too. Is there any way to get them onto the PCGen database?
>
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#109423 From: James Dempsey <jdempsey@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:30 am
Subject: Re: Re: How do I load other Pathfinder source books onto PCGen?
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Hi,

For the ones in red, click on them and the description at the bottom
will show why they can't be loaded yet. Normally it is because they need
another book (or type of book) loaded first. e.g. You need the core
rules selected before you can add the APG.

Cheers,
James.

On 8/12/2012 3:18 PM draelvik wrote
> Thank you. I noticed while loading them that some selections are colored in
red text. Does that mean they don't work or something else?
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Bender"<Papa.DRB@...>  wrote:
>> APG is there, UC&  UM are there but very alpha. ARG is not available yet.
>>
>> To access them, use the "advanced" data set loader, not basic.
>>
>> -- david
>> Papa.DRB
>>
>> On 12/7/2012 8:48 PM, draelvik wrote:
>>> I'd like to make more use of PCGen now that it's seen improvement, but I
need it to be able to access the UC, UM, and other such books. APG and ARG would
be nice too. Is there any

#109424 From: "Dana" <dana.reale@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 6:12 am
Subject: Re: Finding the Starchild (Desna) Trait?
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I was finally able to load it. I am not sure if this is a bug or just me not
understanding the software.

I first created a PC with the standard guide, and realized I needed to load the
advanced source. I went to Source> Load> and chose Advanced. I realized that it
didn't switch my already-created character, so I trashed her and started over,
ensuring that Source> Load had a symbol next to "Advanced". I clicked on it
anyway to make sure, and it didn't do anything, so I assumed that the symbol and
no extra actions after clicking on it meant that it was loaded.

Turns out that they weren't, I had to go to Source> Unload. This still left the
symbol next to Advanced, though. So I went to Source> Select Sources, which
finally seemed to load everything I need.

Would anyone else mind giving the above steps a try to see if I goofed something
up with my install, or if it might be a bug? I'm a relatively new P&P player, so
I might have done things in a different order than is expected!

~Dana

#109425 From: James Dempsey <jdempsey@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 7:29 am
Subject: Re: Re: Finding the Starchild (Desna) Trait?
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Hi Dana,

Yes that sounds like a bug. The dot in the Sources > Load Sources menu
should reflect the currently loaded sources. As you noted if it gets out
of sync it doesn't work as expected.

If you'd like to track the fix please raise it in jira
<http://jira.pcgen.org>otherwise I'll raise it later today.

Cheers,
James.

On 8/12/2012 5:12 PM Dana wrote
> I was finally able to load it. I am not sure if this is a bug or just me not
understanding the software.
>
> I first created a PC with the standard guide, and realized I needed to load
the advanced source. I went to Source>  Load>  and chose Advanced. I realized
that it didn't switch my already-created character, so I trashed her and started
over, ensuring that Source>  Load had a symbol next to "Advanced". I clicked on
it anyway to make sure, and it didn't do anything, so I assumed that the symbol
and no extra actions after clicking on it meant that it was loaded.
>
> Turns out that they weren't, I had to go to Source>  Unload. This still left
the symbol next to Advanced, though. So I went to Source>  Select Sources, which
finally seemed to load everything I need.
>
> Would anyone else mind giving the above steps a try to see if I goofed
something up with my install, or if it might be a bug? I'm a relatively new P&P
player, so I might have done things in a different order than is expected!
>
> ~Dana
>



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#109426 From: "Rob" <mynex@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:47 pm
Subject: RE: Magus & Spell-Blending
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Okay, this finally clicked in my brain (amazing what sleep can do!)...  So
getting and selecting a spell is not the issue;

CHOOSE:SPELLS|CLASSLIST=Magus[KNOWN=NO]|SPELLTYPE=Magus[LEVELMAX=MAXCASTABLE
]

Would give a list of all the magus spells not currently known that they can
cast at their highest level for selection of a spell (Which does work, I
just tested it)

  BUT not put it in their spells known list (which it does not from my
test)...  nor does it list it on the output sheet.

So what's the point of the choose:spells tag if it doesn't do anything (and
choose:spelllevel for that matter)?  Or am I missing some syntax to get it
to actually do something...???

Did some code get left undone for displaying back when this tag was
introduced maybe?


W. Robert Reed III
Mynex

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To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending

Hi,

The main reason is AUTO tags and Bonus tags.

CHOOSE:WEAPONPROFICIENCY coupled with BONUS:WEAPONPROF=%LIST|TOHIT|1 or
AUTO:WEAPONPROF|%LIST

Spells don't have the proper AUTO and Bonus tags to be used the same way.
You have SPELLLEVEL and SPELLKNOWN and those do NOT take '%LIST' without
that it's an arduous process of coding each spell by hand. We need Code
Support.

I'll break it down further if you need later.... have a game tonight, and
have the players showing up now.



On 12/8/2012 6:43 PM, Rob wrote:
> I guess I'm missing something in the understanding here... why can't
> we do a TYPE=Arcane rather than setting up for each spell?  We can do
> this with skills and feats - Weapon focus being a an example that
> comes to mind...  or an 'ability' example... ranger's favored X ability
chain...
>
> If we can set it up to choose and put it on/in the known spells, then
> the user can put it in the spell book themselves...
>
> W. Robert Reed III
> Mynex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pcgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andrew
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:15 PM
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending
>
> Hi,
>
> The question presented is Choosing a Spell, and Adding the spell to
> the Spellbook.
>
> We can easily do the first part with a simple choose. CHOOSE:SPELLS is
> quite versatile.
> It's the second part that can't be done easily (Well, actually we
> can't add anything to a spell book today, we can add it to your known
list).
>
> You can easily set up pairings like this:
>
> ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Grant Magus Spell ~
> Foo|PREABILITY:1,CATEGORY=Special Ability,Chooser Ability(Foo) Now,
> Foo|you'll
> get the Grant Magus Spell ~ Foo if the chooser has selected spell Foo.
> Easy to do. Now, rinse and repeat for every spell. Labor intense and
> doesn't cover any additional source books that increase the Magus's spell
list.
>
> I don't see an easy method for an automatic method to handle that
> today with any other set up. For today, you can mainly add the spell
> to the ability to note it. And then the user needs to manually add it
> themselves. (You can do a Bonus for a Known spell easily enough, if
> that's what you were alluding to before, doesn't cover what the OP
> wanted, but does allow the end user the additional spell in a legit
manner).
>
>
> On 12/8/2012 6:04 PM, Rob wrote:
>> Is there some reason it couldn't be done by TYPE (Or Descriptor) with
>> a bunch of PRExxx tags?
>>
>> W. Robert Reed III
>> Mynex
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Of Andrew
>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:57 PM
>> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Oh you can, but it's the cost vs. benefit. You're doing that for
>> every spell. Hence my statement it's possible but not really worth the
effort.
>>
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#109427 From: Timothy Reaves <treaves@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Can't interact with spells
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Well, I've resolved the issue.  Silly me was actually double (or single)
clicking on the disclosure triangle.  But that is not the correct place.  You
have to double-click the label.

Is this the intended behavior?

Thanks



On Dec 7, 2012, at 8:29 PM, David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:

> What version were you running before the upgrade? What level of Java are
> you using?
>
> -- david
> Papa.DRB
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> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
> On 12/7/2012 8:20 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote:
>> As I stated, this is on Known Spells tab, and the others too.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:17 PM, David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Oracles do not prepare spells so you wont' see anything on the
>>> prepared spells tab. You should be able to open the "triangle" and
>>> select oracle spells on the spells known tab.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, it might be a mac bug and I am on windows.
>>>
>>> -- david
>>> Papa.DRB
>>>
>>> My better half and me (jpg)
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>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhcfFekSbHQ&ob=av3e>
>>>
>>> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
>>> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
>>> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
>>> On 12/7/2012 7:47 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote:
>>>>       I'm running 6.0.0 on a Mac, running OS X 10.8.2 .  When I open my
>>> character, an Oracle using the Pathfinder rules, and go to the Spells/Known
>>> Spells tab, I can see Oracle and a disclosure triangle, but, nothing else.
>>>  I can not open the Oracle to see any spells.  The same for the Prepared
>>> Spells tab.
>>>>       Is this a general bug, a Mac bug, or am I doing something
>>> incorrectly?
>>>>       Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
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#109428 From: "Barak" <barako@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 3:11 pm
Subject: RE: Magus & Spell-Blending
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> So what's the point of the choose:spells tag if it doesn't do anything
(and
> choose:spelllevel for that matter)? Or am I missing some syntax to get it
> to actually do something...???

> Did some code get left undone for displaying back when this tag was
> introduced maybe?

Hey Rob!

Actually, it is as designed.  Push was made a while ago (couple/three years
now?) to keep tag functions separate and get rid of the "magic" ones that
were doing double duty.  I don't recall the exact reasoning, I think it had
to do with making the maintenance of the code easier as well as making it
obvious what a tags scope was.

CHOOSERs choose things and that's all they are supposed to do.  Other tags
(usually BONUS) implement things.  This one never got the code work done
necessary to implement it looks like.

Barak

#109429 From: "Rob" <mynex@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: Magus & Spell-Blending
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Ah, okay... Well I tried.  Figured I could display my ignorance of the new
stuff for the whole world to see!  XD

And Chris *innocent smile*  Just the monkey I was looking for... hit me
offlist if you dare! ;)


W. Robert Reed III
Mynex


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To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [pcgen] Magus & Spell-Blending

> So what's the point of the choose:spells tag if it doesn't do anything
(and
> choose:spelllevel for that matter)? Or am I missing some syntax to get
> it to actually do something...???

> Did some code get left undone for displaying back when this tag was
> introduced maybe?

Hey Rob!

Actually, it is as designed.  Push was made a while ago (couple/three years
now?) to keep tag functions separate and get rid of the "magic" ones that
were doing double duty.  I don't recall the exact reasoning, I think it had
to do with making the maintenance of the code easier as well as making it
obvious what a tags scope was.

CHOOSERs choose things and that's all they are supposed to do.  Other tags
(usually BONUS) implement things.  This one never got the code work done
necessary to implement it looks like.

Barak



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#109430 From: Alessandro Goelzer Fraga <alessandro.fraga@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2012 9:41 pm
Subject: Loremaster bug (and fix) - PCGen 6000
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Hi all.

The Loremaster entry in "rsrd_classes_prestige.lst" file is like that:

1 BONUS:ABILITYPOOL|Loremaster Secret|(CL+1)/2 BONUS:VAR|*SecretLore*|CL+INT
DEFINE:*SecretLore*|0 ADD:SPELLCASTER|ANY ABILITY:Special
Ability|AUTOMATIC|Secret ~ Loremaster

And it should be:

1 BONUS:ABILITYPOOL|Loremaster Secret|(CL+1)/2 BONUS:VAR|*LoremasterSecrets*
|CL+INT DEFINE:*LoremasterSecrets*|0 ADD:SPELLCASTER|ANY ABILITY:Special
Ability|AUTOMATIC|Secret ~ Loremaster

If not, I can't assign the Loremaster Secrets in PCGen 6000. (it has
connection with the corresponding abilities file)

(I am not experienced in PCGen stuff, so I advise confirmation on the
experienced guys before changing it yourself)

Alessandro.


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#109431 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:23 am
Subject: Re: Loremaster bug (and fix) - PCGen 6000
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Hi,

It is already fixed. It'll be part of the next release.

On 12/8/2012 1:41 PM, Alessandro Goelzer Fraga wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> The Loremaster entry in "rsrd_classes_prestige.lst" file is like that:
>
> 1 BONUS:ABILITYPOOL|Loremaster Secret|(CL+1)/2 BONUS:VAR|*SecretLore*|CL+INT
> DEFINE:*SecretLore*|0 ADD:SPELLCASTER|ANY ABILITY:Special
> Ability|AUTOMATIC|Secret ~ Loremaster
>
> And it should be:
>
> 1 BONUS:ABILITYPOOL|Loremaster Secret|(CL+1)/2 BONUS:VAR|*LoremasterSecrets*
> |CL+INT DEFINE:*LoremasterSecrets*|0 ADD:SPELLCASTER|ANY ABILITY:Special
> Ability|AUTOMATIC|Secret ~ Loremaster
>
> If not, I can't assign the Loremaster Secrets in PCGen 6000. (it has
> connection with the corresponding abilities file)
>
> (I am not experienced in PCGen stuff, so I advise confirmation on the
> experienced guys before changing it yourself)
>
> Alessandro.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>
>
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#109432 From: "murdoctor" <murdoctor@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 4:52 am
Subject: Need help selecting Psionic class
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I just downloaded PCGen 6.00.0 from SourceForge.  The release notes say that
Psionics Unleashed has been added, and I want to create a Psion Telepath. 
Unfortunately, the Psionic classes are not appearing in the list of Classes that
can be selected.  How can I get the Psionic classes to appear in the selection
list?

#109433 From: Eric C Smith <maredudd@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 5:17 am
Subject: Re: Need help selecting Psionic class
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Hi!

What gamemode and data sets do you have loaded?

If you have loaded sets from the Basic tab you will need to change to the
Advanced tab and load the Psionics Unleashed sets, which can be found under the
Dreamscarred Press title.

Maredudd

On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:52 PM, murdoctor wrote:

> I just downloaded PCGen 6.00.0 from SourceForge. The release notes say that
Psionics Unleashed has been added, and I want to create a Psion Telepath.
Unfortunately, the Psionic classes are not appearing in the list of Classes that
can be selected. How can I get the Psionic classes to appear in the selection
list?
>
>

#109434 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 4:17 pm
Subject: File - MonkeyTeamsExplained
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PCGen - Who does what?
Last Edited: Aug 19th, 2009

Please see http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Explanation_of_Teams for the
latest version of this document

Introduction
------------

You'll quickly notice the PCGen has a Monkey theme. Bryan McRoberts chose "Chief
Code Monkey" as his title when he first made PCGen available to the public, and
later adopted the title of Benevolent Dictator. Other teams formed to focus on
different aspects of PCGen, and all have taken to referring to themselves as
Monkeys. In the Documentation provided with PCGen and in the About box of the
actual software we try to list everyone who has contributed to PCGen in
chronological order.

Ranks
-----

In keeping with the Monkey theme a ranking system has evolved as a way to
express appreciation and confer status to those who have contributed their time
and energy to the project. The highest rank is that of Silverback, the
Silverbacks are the leaders of the teams that make up the PCGen project and hold
seats on the Board of Directors. The Silverbacks have a 2nd for each sub team.
Promoting Monkeys is generally the privilege of the teams Silverback. The ranks
are (in decreasing order) 2nd, Chimp, Gibbon, Tamarin, Lemur. The rank of Lemur
is conferred when a volunteer first contributes something useful (whether it be
large or small to the project).

Joining the project
-------------------

PCGen is an Open Source Software Initiative and as such relies entirely on the
efforts of many volunteers. The project is always in need of more volunteers, if
you would like to join we would love to have you. The easiest way to join is to
post a message to the pcgen message board with the subject of "I want to help"
and you will be contacted by a Tracker Monkey and asked what area you would like
to contribute to. You may also contact the Silverback of a team you are
interested in joining directly. A list of the Silverbacks can be found in the
BoD

Board of Directors
------------------

The Board of Directors (BoD) is the steering committee of PCGen, its members
consist of the Team Leads from each team. It had overall governance of the
project and is lead by the Chair Monkey.

Architecture
------------

This team works on the medium and long term gnarly architectural issues for
PCGen, dealing with things such as Internationalization, replacing the data
layer etc.

Code
----

This team works on the Java code, fixing Bugs and developing FREQs.

Content
-------

Content encompasses Data, Documentation, Output Sheets and other non-Java code
project files.

   Data
   ----

This team works on the data for all the books you load in PCGen. They help
answer data questions at the PCGenListFileHelp. They have pcgen_experimental
group where they actually work on the different books we're trying to get into
PCGen.

   Documentation
   -------------

This team works on the Documentation, this is a massive effort combing How To
guides, Data and OS tags, FAQ and much, much more.

   OS
   --

This team works on the output sheets which are used to export to character
sheets in PCGen. These templates involve XML, XSL, PDF and HTML/XHTML.

Admin
-----

This is the team that administers the project as a whole. They amongst other
things monitor the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen yahoo site and consist of
two sub teams.

   Tracker
   -------

They also prioritize all Issues and provide assistance to all teams in a
co-ordination role.

   Release
   -------

This team gathers all the elements and compiles the code to create the packages
that are released to the public.

   Website
   -------

This team is the newest formed team; it's first tasked with finding a permanent
website space to call home and building a fully operational website to
facilitate our many needs. Once phase I is completed they will monitor and
maintain the website. They have a tough job currently of merging our many groups
and websites into one unified and professional website with the full
capabilities we already enjoy today, plus more enhancements.

Public Relations
----------------

The PR team covers dealing with the various stakeholders in PCGen's community,
in particular the Publishers.

   Publisher Liaison
   -----------------

This team servers as the contact for all the Publishers. This way all contact
with Publishers can be more easily managed and consistent.

   OGL
   ---

This team is named after the Open Gaming License that made the popularity of
3e/3.5e possible. This team makes sure that all material included in PCGen meets
any license requirements (not just the OGL).

   Advertising
   -----------

This team deals with PCGen's advertising budget and where and when the
advertising should occur.

That should just about cover it!

Karianna
Chair Monkey - BoD, Moderator

#109435 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2012 4:17 pm
Subject: File - Welcome
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Welcome!

Last edited at 26th April 2010 - This document is an amalgamation of existing
documentation we have.

Important Links
---------------

The following links will lead you to a wealth of information on PCGen

Website:  http://pcgen.sf.net
FAQ/Docs: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/index.html
Wiki:     http://wiki.pcgen.org/
Issues:   http://jira.pcgen.org/
SF Site:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/

What is PCGen?
--------------

PCGen is a character generator and maintenance program aimed at supporting any
RPG material we can get our hands on.  Currently our focus is on material
released under the Open Gaming License (OGL). A secondary goal is to support as
many house rules as possible. PCGen is meant to be easy to modify to suit your
own campaign, and users are encouraged to share their creations.

Where are the official releases of PCGen?
-----------------------------------------

Currently PCGen is released at http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/

How often are releases?
-----------------------

We try to put out an alpha release every two weeks.  We put out a production
release whenever we reach a significant milestone in terms of functionality and
we certify that the release is stable after rigorous testing.

Why is book <X> not included in PCGen?
--------------------------------------

There are a few possible causes for this situation and the explanation hold true
for both datasets that have never been in PCGen and some which have been in
PCGen but were removed.

(1) If the book is closed content, then we may not have permission from the
publisher, or may not have permission to include enough data to allow the data
to be useful to our users.

(2) If the book if partially or completely OGL content, then we still require
permission from the publisher because the publisher name and book title are both
trademarks. Under the OGL, we require permission to use those to identify the
source of the data. We believe if we cannot identify the source of the data,
then the value to PCGen users is lost (how do you find the data?), so we will
not include a dataset for that source.

(3) It is possible that PCGen does not have the features to support a sufficient
amount of the data from a given source, and thus is not included in our
production release (or is included as an alpha source)

For more information on what sources are available in PCGen and explanations for
those that are not, please refer to our Publisher Permissions page at:
http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/acknowledgments/publishersand\
sources.html

If you find we are unable to publish data for a source you are interested in,
you may wish to contact the publisher directly to express your interest in
having a dataset for PCGen available (either a free one distributed by PCGen or
a commercial dataset distributed by the publisher or a third party).

Where is WotC's non-SRD material?
---------------------------------

When 3rd edition came out in 2000, Wizards of the Coast (WotC) also created the
Open Gaming License (OGL). This would allow 3rd party publishers to use Open
Game Content (OGC) as long as they followed the rules laid out in the OGL. WotC
took most, but not all, of the material in the PHB, DMG and MM and created the
System Reference Document (SRD). They declared this to be OGC, which is what the
3rd party publishers initially used. At a later date, WotC added material from
the Psionics Handbook to the SRD.

When d20 Modern came out, WotC created the Modern System Reference Document
(MSRD). This contains material from d20 Modern, d20 Future, Menace Manual and
Urban Arcana.

When 3.5 came out, WotC created the Revised System Reference Document (RSRD).
This contains material from the 3.5 PHB, 3.5 DMG, 3.5 MM, Expanded Psionics
Handbook, Deities and Demigods (not everything in this material was converted to
3.5), Epic Level Handbook (as Deities and Demigods) and a little bit from Manual
of the Planes.

Any material that WotC did not place in the various Reference Documents is not
available for 3rd party publishers to use. The Red Wizard of Thay did not make
it into the RSRD, so PCGen can not include that in our distribution.

Also see: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/index.html

When will you support my favorite book?
---------------------------------------

We try to get everything in that we can as quickly as we can.  We've made our
process more formal as our project has matured, so now we have "data monkeys"
who test the data, then send it to the publisher for their approval before it
gets included in our releases.  This takes a bit of time and we only have so
many monkeys working on the data, so if you want to jump in and help out on the
book(s) you're specifically interested in, post a note about it on the message
board and we'll put you to work!

Also see: http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Data_Wishlist

Will PCGen include everything that it can?
------------------------------------------

We sure plan on it!  It takes a lot of time to complete the data for a book, but
it's time well spent. :)  We ask publishers for their permission before we
include anything, and those of you who are familiar with the OGL know that this
formality isn't required.  However, we at PCGen wish to be courteous to the
publishers and respect their wishes - if a publisher doesn't want us to include
their material (or just a specific book) then we won't include it.  As long as
we comply with the OGL we could legally include anything that is OGL without
needing the publisher's permission, but that goes against the long-standing
policy we've had for PCGen.

For D20 and OGL Games Publishers:
---------------------------------

Please read our OpenLetter to all D20 Games Publishers at:

http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/docs/openletter.html

We'd love to convert your material for use with PCGen.  We have a Publisher
Liaison team who are the ones to contact about getting your material into PCGen.
They're also the team that will seek you out about getting your permission, and
will send you the files for your approval before we include it in a production
release.  If you have anything declared as product identity, we can mark it
clearly as such within PCGen or not include it.  This is a free way for your
material to get widespread use without without giving out so much detail that
purchasing the material is no longer necessary. Email us or post on our yahoo
message board if you'd like more information.

Also see: http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Publishers

What does the Board of Directors of PCGen do?
---------------------------------------------

A few people have asked about the Board of Directors (BoD) and their role in
PCGen, so I thought I'd try to come up with a short and sweet explanation.

The BoD is a group that brings together the leaders of every team (Code, Data,
Docs, Publisher Liason, OGL/Licenses, Output Sheets etc) to make sure that
inter-group communications are working. It also decides on general policies to
guide the project in general. One example is that we discussed and decided to
drop d20 compliance for PCGen.  We also discuss what kinds of requirements we
might have on any 3rd party group that would want to claim compliance with
PCGen. Another issue is where to host data - the preferred place is in the
official releases, but there are a couple of situations that would preclude that
from happening: if a publisher wants to host the data themselves and not include
it in an official release (we'd require that the data be free) or if a special
license was required then the publisher or some other site that was compatible
with that license would need to host the data - in all circumstances the data
would be free. The BoD also discusses any key issues for each group - like "What
does the data team need from any of the other teams to finish off book X?". The
BoD does not assign anyone to book X or to fix the bugs/features related to that
book. The BoD simply helps facilitate discussion between the teams so the team
leads can then decide who they want to assign to those tasks. This is a
volunteer project, so someone who is assigned to something doesn't have to do
it, but hopefully the volunteer will tackle it out of a desire to see book X
completed, or out of pity for the team lead! :)

This is an open source project, and as a community project, this means that
everyone is giving their time and talent to improve a product for the entire
PCGen audience. The BoD helps direct the project by providing groundrules and
policies to keep things running smoothly. In return for the volunteer's aid and
compliance with those policies, the BoD promises to make it's policies
transparent and fair as possible. This way there are no surprises for anyone on
any team. The BoD recognizes that it's policies aren't perfect, and is very
willing to accept suggestions!

http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Board_of_Directors

Where can I discuss PCGen and interact with the developers?
-----------------------------------------------------------

Generally speaking you can login to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen

You can check out the PCGen page from which you can view and post Messages. If
you have any questions about PCGen, that's the place to send your question. Most
of the developers hang out there on a regular basis, and a number of other very
involved non-developers are also available to answer any questions you might
have.

Where/How do I report Bugs or request features?
-----------------------------------------------

You can submit a bug either by posting a message to the yahoo group with [BUG]
in its title, or by going to Bug page at the JIRA site and entering a bug there
directly.  We commonly refer to the feature requests as FREQ for short, and you
can either post a message with [FREQ] in the title or enter it directly in the
JIRA site.  In both cases, the more detailed a bug/FREQ is, the more likely it
will be addressed in the near future.  We prefer FREQs be posted at the yahoo
group initially so others can help iron out any details or brainstorm on how to
improve the functionality.

* What do I need to run PCGen?
------------------------------

PCGen 5.10.2 (and above) requires JRE 1.5.0_11 (and above - this can be found at
http://www.java.com), which means it will run on any OS that supports that
version of Java.  Many of our installers now remove the need for you to worry
about installing Java.

What's available at the Yahoo site?
-----------------------------------

In the Files page there are a number of folders you should know about - there's
Campaign+Central folder where lots of user added Campaigns are available.
There's a folder for new character sheet templates that aren't included in the
standard releases, and there's a folder for Character PCG files when users have
problems that they need help diagnosing. Users who want to send in corrections
or updates to anything that's included in the official releases of PCGen should
upload those files to our JIRA system where one of us, including our very own
Portal to the Negative Plane, will make sure it gets included in the next
release.

Thanks, and welcome aboard!

Bryan McRoberts (Benevolent Dictator of PCGen), Karianna (Chair Monkey of the
BoD) and the Moderators

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