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#107946 From: "Paul" <nylanfs@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:07 am
Subject: [OT]This is a little alarming
nylanfs
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As of last week Monte Cook is terminating his contract with WotC.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/

#107947 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:12 am
Subject: Re: [OT]This is a little alarming
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Hi Paul,

The link is pointing to our group? Was this meant to be to an article?

On 4/25/2012 5:07 PM, Paul wrote:
> As of last week Monte Cook is terminating his contract with WotC.
>
> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Related Lists
> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>
>
> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
>
> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
> (for new official data source development)
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"


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#107948 From: Anestis Kozakis <kenosti@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:15 am
Subject: Re: [OT]This is a little alarming
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Try http://montecook.livejournal.com/251404.html

And it's not really that alarming.  It just means that Monte Cook has
decided not to continue working with WotC on 5th Ed D&D.

Anestis.

On 26 April 2012 10:12, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> The link is pointing to our group? Was this meant to be to an article?
>
> On 4/25/2012 5:07 PM, Paul wrote:
>> As of last week Monte Cook is terminating his contract with WotC.
>>
>> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/

--
Anestis Kozakis | kenosti@... | http://www.akozakis.id.au/

#107949 From: "Paul" <nylanfs@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:54 am
Subject: Re: [OT]This is a little alarming
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Hmm, must have been a C&P error. :)

It's alarming because of everyone involved I "believe" that Monte was one of the
major proponents of the OGL. If he's having "differences of opinion with the
company", and it's NOT with his fellow designers. Then that makes me a little
worried.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Anestis Kozakis <kenosti@...> wrote:
>
> Try http://montecook.livejournal.com/251404.html
>
> And it's not really that alarming.  It just means that Monte Cook has
> decided not to continue working with WotC on 5th Ed D&D.
>
> Anestis.
>
> On 26 April 2012 10:12, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > The link is pointing to our group? Was this meant to be to an article?
> >
> > On 4/25/2012 5:07 PM, Paul wrote:
> >> As of last week Monte Cook is terminating his contract with WotC.
> >>
> >> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/

#107950 From: Andrew Wilson <andrew@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [OT]This is a little alarming
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On Apr 26, 2012 2:54 AM, "Paul" <nylanfs@...> wrote:
> It's alarming because of everyone involved I "believe" that Monte was one
> of the major proponents of the OGL. If he's having "differences of opinion
> with the company", and it's NOT with his fellow designers. Then that makes
> me a little worried.

If you've already given up on WotC, and decided that you're probably not
ever going to buy their role playing output ever again then it's a bit ho
hum.

I don't like 4th edition, I really don't like the way WotC treated their
fan base
during its introduction.  Given that Monte's differences aren't with the
other designers, it looks to me like the company hasn't changed.  Having
said that,
that's pure speculation on my part. We don't really know why Monte's
decided to part ways with them–again!

I'll still look at 5th (Next, whatever) when they release it, but I'm going
to be
difficult to convince.  There are lots of other companies I'd rather give my
money/mind share to.

I don't think this is publisher bashing and I don't want to start that, so
I'll
say no more. Apologies if it comes over that way.

andrew


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#107951 From: "Kenneth Teague" <vilyasar@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: Error in the Custome object
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Andrew,

thank you, I moved it over and created the bug issue.

Ken

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> That appears to be a code bug. If you submit the report on our JIRA you'll be
able to communicate
> with the coder when they investigate it.
>
> you may sign up and submit the bug here >>> jira.pcgen.org
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 4/25/2012 12:30 PM, Kenneth Teague wrote:
> >
> >
> > I get this error when I copy an existing Spell, and change the name.
> > There is nothing changed or modified in the spell.
> >
> >   Who would be the best person to talk to about this?
> >
> > Just in case to don't  see the error image it states: " There is an
> > error in the data that is preventing your custom object from being
> > saved.  Please check the console  for more information. "
> >
> > Here is the console information
> >
> > -- listing properties --
> > java.runtime.name=Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment
> > sun.boot.library.path=C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin
> > java.vm.version=20.6-b01
> > java.vm.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
> > java.vendor.url=http://java.sun.com/
> > path.separator=;
> > java.vm.name=Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
> > file.encoding.pkg=sun.io
> > java.util.logging.config.file=D:\My Documents\Gaming\PCGen\PCGen516...
> > user.country=US
> > sun.java.launcher=SUN_STANDARD
> > sun.os.patch.level=Service Pack 3
> > java.vm.specification.name=Java Virtual Machine Specification
> > user.dir=D:\My Documents\Gaming\PCGen\PCGen5164
> > java.runtime.version=1.6.0_31-b05
> > java.awt.graphicsenv=sun.awt.Win32GraphicsEnvironment
> > java.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\endorsed
> > os.arch=x86
> > java.io.tmpdir=C:\DOCUME~1\mteague\LOCALS~1\Temp\
> > line.separator=
> >
> > java.vm.specification.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
> > user.variant=
> > os.name=Windows XP
> > sun.jnu.encoding=Cp1252
> > java.library.path=C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin;C:\WIN...
> > java.specification.name=Java Platform API Specification
> > java.class.version=50.0
> > sun.management.compiler=HotSpot Client Compiler
> > os.version=5.1
> > user.home=C:\Documents and Settings\mteague
> > user.timezone=America/Los_Angeles
> > java.awt.printerjob=sun.awt.windows.WPrinterJob
> > file.encoding=Cp1252
> > java.specification.version=1.6
> > user.name=mteague
> > java.class.path=D:\My Documents\Gaming\PCGen\PCGen516...
> > java.vm.specification.version=1.0
> > sun.arch.data.model=32
> > java.home=C:\Program Files\Java\jre6
> > sun.java.command=D:\My Documents\Gaming\PCGen\PCGen516...
> > java.specification.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
> > user.language=en
> > awt.toolkit=sun.awt.windows.WToolkit
> > java.vm.info=mixed mode, sharing
> > java.version=1.6.0_31
> > java.ext.dirs=C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\ext;C:...
> > sun.boot.class.path=C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\resour...
> > java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
> > file.separator=\
> > java.vendor.url.bug=http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport...
> > sun.cpu.endian=little
> > sun.io.unicode.encoding=UnicodeLittle
> > sun.desktop=windows
> > sun.cpu.isalist=
> > Memory: 154,864Kb total, 57,447.008Kb free, 506,816Kb max.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Related Lists
> > PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
> > PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
> > PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
> > PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
> >
> >
> > PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
> > (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
> >
> > PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
> > (for new official data source development)
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#107952 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:44 am
Subject: PCGen Board of Directors Meeting, 4/27/2012, 5:00 pm
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Reminder from:   pcgen Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   PCGen Board of Directors Meeting
 
Date:   Friday April 27, 2012
Time:   5:00 pm - 7:00 pm
Location:   IRC irc.freenode.net channel #pcgen
Street:   http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=pcgen
Notes:   PCGen's Board of Directors open meeting

All are welcome to come and observe.

Meeting is held in channel #pcgen on IRC. You can join via the web at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=pcgen

Please use the link for the correct time for your time zone. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=27&month=04&year=2012&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=179

See http://wiki.pcgen.org/Meeting_Time for the meeting details.

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#107953 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:04 pm
Subject: File - MonkeyTeamsExplained
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PCGen - Who does what?
Last Edited: Aug 19th, 2009

Please see http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Explanation_of_Teams for the
latest version of this document

Introduction
------------

You'll quickly notice the PCGen has a Monkey theme. Bryan McRoberts chose "Chief
Code Monkey" as his title when he first made PCGen available to the public, and
later adopted the title of Benevolent Dictator. Other teams formed to focus on
different aspects of PCGen, and all have taken to referring to themselves as
Monkeys. In the Documentation provided with PCGen and in the About box of the
actual software we try to list everyone who has contributed to PCGen in
chronological order.

Ranks
-----

In keeping with the Monkey theme a ranking system has evolved as a way to
express appreciation and confer status to those who have contributed their time
and energy to the project. The highest rank is that of Silverback, the
Silverbacks are the leaders of the teams that make up the PCGen project and hold
seats on the Board of Directors. The Silverbacks have a 2nd for each sub team.
Promoting Monkeys is generally the privilege of the teams Silverback. The ranks
are (in decreasing order) 2nd, Chimp, Gibbon, Tamarin, Lemur. The rank of Lemur
is conferred when a volunteer first contributes something useful (whether it be
large or small to the project).

Joining the project
-------------------

PCGen is an Open Source Software Initiative and as such relies entirely on the
efforts of many volunteers. The project is always in need of more volunteers, if
you would like to join we would love to have you. The easiest way to join is to
post a message to the pcgen message board with the subject of "I want to help"
and you will be contacted by a Tracker Monkey and asked what area you would like
to contribute to. You may also contact the Silverback of a team you are
interested in joining directly. A list of the Silverbacks can be found in the
BoD

Board of Directors
------------------

The Board of Directors (BoD) is the steering committee of PCGen, its members
consist of the Team Leads from each team. It had overall governance of the
project and is lead by the Chair Monkey.

Architecture
------------

This team works on the medium and long term gnarly architectural issues for
PCGen, dealing with things such as Internationalization, replacing the data
layer etc.

Code
----

This team works on the Java code, fixing Bugs and developing FREQs.

Content
-------

Content encompasses Data, Documentation, Output Sheets and other non-Java code
project files.

   Data
   ----

This team works on the data for all the books you load in PCGen. They help
answer data questions at the PCGenListFileHelp. They have pcgen_experimental
group where they actually work on the different books we're trying to get into
PCGen.

   Documentation
   -------------

This team works on the Documentation, this is a massive effort combing How To
guides, Data and OS tags, FAQ and much, much more.

   OS
   --

This team works on the output sheets which are used to export to character
sheets in PCGen. These templates involve XML, XSL, PDF and HTML/XHTML.

Admin
-----

This is the team that administers the project as a whole. They amongst other
things monitor the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen yahoo site and consist of
two sub teams.

   Tracker
   -------

They also prioritize all Issues and provide assistance to all teams in a
co-ordination role.

   Release
   -------

This team gathers all the elements and compiles the code to create the packages
that are released to the public.

   Website
   -------

This team is the newest formed team; it's first tasked with finding a permanent
website space to call home and building a fully operational website to
facilitate our many needs. Once phase I is completed they will monitor and
maintain the website. They have a tough job currently of merging our many groups
and websites into one unified and professional website with the full
capabilities we already enjoy today, plus more enhancements.

Public Relations
----------------

The PR team covers dealing with the various stakeholders in PCGen's community,
in particular the Publishers.

   Publisher Liaison
   -----------------

This team servers as the contact for all the Publishers. This way all contact
with Publishers can be more easily managed and consistent.

   OGL
   ---

This team is named after the Open Gaming License that made the popularity of
3e/3.5e possible. This team makes sure that all material included in PCGen meets
any license requirements (not just the OGL).

   Advertising
   -----------

This team deals with PCGen's advertising budget and where and when the
advertising should occur.

That should just about cover it!

Karianna
Chair Monkey - BoD, Moderator

#107954 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:04 pm
Subject: File - Welcome
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Welcome!

Last edited at 26th April 2010 - This document is an amalgamation of existing
documentation we have.

Important Links
---------------

The following links will lead you to a wealth of information on PCGen

Website:  http://pcgen.sf.net
FAQ/Docs: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/index.html
Wiki:     http://wiki.pcgen.org/
Issues:   http://jira.pcgen.org/
SF Site:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/

What is PCGen?
--------------

PCGen is a character generator and maintenance program aimed at supporting any
RPG material we can get our hands on.  Currently our focus is on material
released under the Open Gaming License (OGL). A secondary goal is to support as
many house rules as possible. PCGen is meant to be easy to modify to suit your
own campaign, and users are encouraged to share their creations.

Where are the official releases of PCGen?
-----------------------------------------

Currently PCGen is released at http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/

How often are releases?
-----------------------

We try to put out an alpha release every two weeks.  We put out a production
release whenever we reach a significant milestone in terms of functionality and
we certify that the release is stable after rigorous testing.

Why is book <X> not included in PCGen?
--------------------------------------

There are a few possible causes for this situation and the explanation hold true
for both datasets that have never been in PCGen and some which have been in
PCGen but were removed.

(1) If the book is closed content, then we may not have permission from the
publisher, or may not have permission to include enough data to allow the data
to be useful to our users.

(2) If the book if partially or completely OGL content, then we still require
permission from the publisher because the publisher name and book title are both
trademarks. Under the OGL, we require permission to use those to identify the
source of the data. We believe if we cannot identify the source of the data,
then the value to PCGen users is lost (how do you find the data?), so we will
not include a dataset for that source.

(3) It is possible that PCGen does not have the features to support a sufficient
amount of the data from a given source, and thus is not included in our
production release (or is included as an alpha source)

For more information on what sources are available in PCGen and explanations for
those that are not, please refer to our Publisher Permissions page at:
http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/acknowledgments/publishersand\
sources.html

If you find we are unable to publish data for a source you are interested in,
you may wish to contact the publisher directly to express your interest in
having a dataset for PCGen available (either a free one distributed by PCGen or
a commercial dataset distributed by the publisher or a third party).

Where is WotC's non-SRD material?
---------------------------------

When 3rd edition came out in 2000, Wizards of the Coast (WotC) also created the
Open Gaming License (OGL). This would allow 3rd party publishers to use Open
Game Content (OGC) as long as they followed the rules laid out in the OGL. WotC
took most, but not all, of the material in the PHB, DMG and MM and created the
System Reference Document (SRD). They declared this to be OGC, which is what the
3rd party publishers initially used. At a later date, WotC added material from
the Psionics Handbook to the SRD.

When d20 Modern came out, WotC created the Modern System Reference Document
(MSRD). This contains material from d20 Modern, d20 Future, Menace Manual and
Urban Arcana.

When 3.5 came out, WotC created the Revised System Reference Document (RSRD).
This contains material from the 3.5 PHB, 3.5 DMG, 3.5 MM, Expanded Psionics
Handbook, Deities and Demigods (not everything in this material was converted to
3.5), Epic Level Handbook (as Deities and Demigods) and a little bit from Manual
of the Planes.

Any material that WotC did not place in the various Reference Documents is not
available for 3rd party publishers to use. The Red Wizard of Thay did not make
it into the RSRD, so PCGen can not include that in our distribution.

Also see: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/index.html

When will you support my favorite book?
---------------------------------------

We try to get everything in that we can as quickly as we can.  We've made our
process more formal as our project has matured, so now we have "data monkeys"
who test the data, then send it to the publisher for their approval before it
gets included in our releases.  This takes a bit of time and we only have so
many monkeys working on the data, so if you want to jump in and help out on the
book(s) you're specifically interested in, post a note about it on the message
board and we'll put you to work!

Also see: http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Data_Wishlist

Will PCGen include everything that it can?
------------------------------------------

We sure plan on it!  It takes a lot of time to complete the data for a book, but
it's time well spent. :)  We ask publishers for their permission before we
include anything, and those of you who are familiar with the OGL know that this
formality isn't required.  However, we at PCGen wish to be courteous to the
publishers and respect their wishes - if a publisher doesn't want us to include
their material (or just a specific book) then we won't include it.  As long as
we comply with the OGL we could legally include anything that is OGL without
needing the publisher's permission, but that goes against the long-standing
policy we've had for PCGen.

For D20 and OGL Games Publishers:
---------------------------------

Please read our OpenLetter to all D20 Games Publishers at:

http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/docs/openletter.html

We'd love to convert your material for use with PCGen.  We have a Publisher
Liaison team who are the ones to contact about getting your material into PCGen.
They're also the team that will seek you out about getting your permission, and
will send you the files for your approval before we include it in a production
release.  If you have anything declared as product identity, we can mark it
clearly as such within PCGen or not include it.  This is a free way for your
material to get widespread use without without giving out so much detail that
purchasing the material is no longer necessary. Email us or post on our yahoo
message board if you'd like more information.

Also see: http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Publishers

What does the Board of Directors of PCGen do?
---------------------------------------------

A few people have asked about the Board of Directors (BoD) and their role in
PCGen, so I thought I'd try to come up with a short and sweet explanation.

The BoD is a group that brings together the leaders of every team (Code, Data,
Docs, Publisher Liason, OGL/Licenses, Output Sheets etc) to make sure that
inter-group communications are working. It also decides on general policies to
guide the project in general. One example is that we discussed and decided to
drop d20 compliance for PCGen.  We also discuss what kinds of requirements we
might have on any 3rd party group that would want to claim compliance with
PCGen. Another issue is where to host data - the preferred place is in the
official releases, but there are a couple of situations that would preclude that
from happening: if a publisher wants to host the data themselves and not include
it in an official release (we'd require that the data be free) or if a special
license was required then the publisher or some other site that was compatible
with that license would need to host the data - in all circumstances the data
would be free. The BoD also discusses any key issues for each group - like "What
does the data team need from any of the other teams to finish off book X?". The
BoD does not assign anyone to book X or to fix the bugs/features related to that
book. The BoD simply helps facilitate discussion between the teams so the team
leads can then decide who they want to assign to those tasks. This is a
volunteer project, so someone who is assigned to something doesn't have to do
it, but hopefully the volunteer will tackle it out of a desire to see book X
completed, or out of pity for the team lead! :)

This is an open source project, and as a community project, this means that
everyone is giving their time and talent to improve a product for the entire
PCGen audience. The BoD helps direct the project by providing groundrules and
policies to keep things running smoothly. In return for the volunteer's aid and
compliance with those policies, the BoD promises to make it's policies
transparent and fair as possible. This way there are no surprises for anyone on
any team. The BoD recognizes that it's policies aren't perfect, and is very
willing to accept suggestions!

http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Board_of_Directors

Where can I discuss PCGen and interact with the developers?
-----------------------------------------------------------

Generally speaking you can login to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen

You can check out the PCGen page from which you can view and post Messages. If
you have any questions about PCGen, that's the place to send your question. Most
of the developers hang out there on a regular basis, and a number of other very
involved non-developers are also available to answer any questions you might
have.

Where/How do I report Bugs or request features?
-----------------------------------------------

You can submit a bug either by posting a message to the yahoo group with [BUG]
in its title, or by going to Bug page at the JIRA site and entering a bug there
directly.  We commonly refer to the feature requests as FREQ for short, and you
can either post a message with [FREQ] in the title or enter it directly in the
JIRA site.  In both cases, the more detailed a bug/FREQ is, the more likely it
will be addressed in the near future.  We prefer FREQs be posted at the yahoo
group initially so others can help iron out any details or brainstorm on how to
improve the functionality.

* What do I need to run PCGen?
------------------------------

PCGen 5.10.2 (and above) requires JRE 1.5.0_11 (and above - this can be found at
http://www.java.com), which means it will run on any OS that supports that
version of Java.  Many of our installers now remove the need for you to worry
about installing Java.

What's available at the Yahoo site?
-----------------------------------

In the Files page there are a number of folders you should know about - there's
Campaign+Central folder where lots of user added Campaigns are available.
There's a folder for new character sheet templates that aren't included in the
standard releases, and there's a folder for Character PCG files when users have
problems that they need help diagnosing. Users who want to send in corrections
or updates to anything that's included in the official releases of PCGen should
upload those files to our JIRA system where one of us, including our very own
Portal to the Negative Plane, will make sure it gets included in the next
release.

Thanks, and welcome aboard!

Bryan McRoberts (Benevolent Dictator of PCGen), Karianna (Chair Monkey of the
BoD) and the Moderators

#107955 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:12 pm
Subject: File - MonkeyTeamsExplained
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PCGen - Who does what?
Last Edited: Aug 19th, 2009

Please see http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Explanation_of_Teams for the
latest version of this document

Introduction
------------

You'll quickly notice the PCGen has a Monkey theme. Bryan McRoberts chose "Chief
Code Monkey" as his title when he first made PCGen available to the public, and
later adopted the title of Benevolent Dictator. Other teams formed to focus on
different aspects of PCGen, and all have taken to referring to themselves as
Monkeys. In the Documentation provided with PCGen and in the About box of the
actual software we try to list everyone who has contributed to PCGen in
chronological order.

Ranks
-----

In keeping with the Monkey theme a ranking system has evolved as a way to
express appreciation and confer status to those who have contributed their time
and energy to the project. The highest rank is that of Silverback, the
Silverbacks are the leaders of the teams that make up the PCGen project and hold
seats on the Board of Directors. The Silverbacks have a 2nd for each sub team.
Promoting Monkeys is generally the privilege of the teams Silverback. The ranks
are (in decreasing order) 2nd, Chimp, Gibbon, Tamarin, Lemur. The rank of Lemur
is conferred when a volunteer first contributes something useful (whether it be
large or small to the project).

Joining the project
-------------------

PCGen is an Open Source Software Initiative and as such relies entirely on the
efforts of many volunteers. The project is always in need of more volunteers, if
you would like to join we would love to have you. The easiest way to join is to
post a message to the pcgen message board with the subject of "I want to help"
and you will be contacted by a Tracker Monkey and asked what area you would like
to contribute to. You may also contact the Silverback of a team you are
interested in joining directly. A list of the Silverbacks can be found in the
BoD

Board of Directors
------------------

The Board of Directors (BoD) is the steering committee of PCGen, its members
consist of the Team Leads from each team. It had overall governance of the
project and is lead by the Chair Monkey.

Architecture
------------

This team works on the medium and long term gnarly architectural issues for
PCGen, dealing with things such as Internationalization, replacing the data
layer etc.

Code
----

This team works on the Java code, fixing Bugs and developing FREQs.

Content
-------

Content encompasses Data, Documentation, Output Sheets and other non-Java code
project files.

   Data
   ----

This team works on the data for all the books you load in PCGen. They help
answer data questions at the PCGenListFileHelp. They have pcgen_experimental
group where they actually work on the different books we're trying to get into
PCGen.

   Documentation
   -------------

This team works on the Documentation, this is a massive effort combing How To
guides, Data and OS tags, FAQ and much, much more.

   OS
   --

This team works on the output sheets which are used to export to character
sheets in PCGen. These templates involve XML, XSL, PDF and HTML/XHTML.

Admin
-----

This is the team that administers the project as a whole. They amongst other
things monitor the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen yahoo site and consist of
two sub teams.

   Tracker
   -------

They also prioritize all Issues and provide assistance to all teams in a
co-ordination role.

   Release
   -------

This team gathers all the elements and compiles the code to create the packages
that are released to the public.

   Website
   -------

This team is the newest formed team; it's first tasked with finding a permanent
website space to call home and building a fully operational website to
facilitate our many needs. Once phase I is completed they will monitor and
maintain the website. They have a tough job currently of merging our many groups
and websites into one unified and professional website with the full
capabilities we already enjoy today, plus more enhancements.

Public Relations
----------------

The PR team covers dealing with the various stakeholders in PCGen's community,
in particular the Publishers.

   Publisher Liaison
   -----------------

This team servers as the contact for all the Publishers. This way all contact
with Publishers can be more easily managed and consistent.

   OGL
   ---

This team is named after the Open Gaming License that made the popularity of
3e/3.5e possible. This team makes sure that all material included in PCGen meets
any license requirements (not just the OGL).

   Advertising
   -----------

This team deals with PCGen's advertising budget and where and when the
advertising should occur.

That should just about cover it!

Karianna
Chair Monkey - BoD, Moderator

#107956 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:12 pm
Subject: File - Welcome
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Welcome!

Last edited at 26th April 2010 - This document is an amalgamation of existing
documentation we have.

Important Links
---------------

The following links will lead you to a wealth of information on PCGen

Website:  http://pcgen.sf.net
FAQ/Docs: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/index.html
Wiki:     http://wiki.pcgen.org/
Issues:   http://jira.pcgen.org/
SF Site:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/

What is PCGen?
--------------

PCGen is a character generator and maintenance program aimed at supporting any
RPG material we can get our hands on.  Currently our focus is on material
released under the Open Gaming License (OGL). A secondary goal is to support as
many house rules as possible. PCGen is meant to be easy to modify to suit your
own campaign, and users are encouraged to share their creations.

Where are the official releases of PCGen?
-----------------------------------------

Currently PCGen is released at http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/

How often are releases?
-----------------------

We try to put out an alpha release every two weeks.  We put out a production
release whenever we reach a significant milestone in terms of functionality and
we certify that the release is stable after rigorous testing.

Why is book <X> not included in PCGen?
--------------------------------------

There are a few possible causes for this situation and the explanation hold true
for both datasets that have never been in PCGen and some which have been in
PCGen but were removed.

(1) If the book is closed content, then we may not have permission from the
publisher, or may not have permission to include enough data to allow the data
to be useful to our users.

(2) If the book if partially or completely OGL content, then we still require
permission from the publisher because the publisher name and book title are both
trademarks. Under the OGL, we require permission to use those to identify the
source of the data. We believe if we cannot identify the source of the data,
then the value to PCGen users is lost (how do you find the data?), so we will
not include a dataset for that source.

(3) It is possible that PCGen does not have the features to support a sufficient
amount of the data from a given source, and thus is not included in our
production release (or is included as an alpha source)

For more information on what sources are available in PCGen and explanations for
those that are not, please refer to our Publisher Permissions page at:
http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/acknowledgments/publishersand\
sources.html

If you find we are unable to publish data for a source you are interested in,
you may wish to contact the publisher directly to express your interest in
having a dataset for PCGen available (either a free one distributed by PCGen or
a commercial dataset distributed by the publisher or a third party).

Where is WotC's non-SRD material?
---------------------------------

When 3rd edition came out in 2000, Wizards of the Coast (WotC) also created the
Open Gaming License (OGL). This would allow 3rd party publishers to use Open
Game Content (OGC) as long as they followed the rules laid out in the OGL. WotC
took most, but not all, of the material in the PHB, DMG and MM and created the
System Reference Document (SRD). They declared this to be OGC, which is what the
3rd party publishers initially used. At a later date, WotC added material from
the Psionics Handbook to the SRD.

When d20 Modern came out, WotC created the Modern System Reference Document
(MSRD). This contains material from d20 Modern, d20 Future, Menace Manual and
Urban Arcana.

When 3.5 came out, WotC created the Revised System Reference Document (RSRD).
This contains material from the 3.5 PHB, 3.5 DMG, 3.5 MM, Expanded Psionics
Handbook, Deities and Demigods (not everything in this material was converted to
3.5), Epic Level Handbook (as Deities and Demigods) and a little bit from Manual
of the Planes.

Any material that WotC did not place in the various Reference Documents is not
available for 3rd party publishers to use. The Red Wizard of Thay did not make
it into the RSRD, so PCGen can not include that in our distribution.

Also see: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/index.html

When will you support my favorite book?
---------------------------------------

We try to get everything in that we can as quickly as we can.  We've made our
process more formal as our project has matured, so now we have "data monkeys"
who test the data, then send it to the publisher for their approval before it
gets included in our releases.  This takes a bit of time and we only have so
many monkeys working on the data, so if you want to jump in and help out on the
book(s) you're specifically interested in, post a note about it on the message
board and we'll put you to work!

Also see: http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Data_Wishlist

Will PCGen include everything that it can?
------------------------------------------

We sure plan on it!  It takes a lot of time to complete the data for a book, but
it's time well spent. :)  We ask publishers for their permission before we
include anything, and those of you who are familiar with the OGL know that this
formality isn't required.  However, we at PCGen wish to be courteous to the
publishers and respect their wishes - if a publisher doesn't want us to include
their material (or just a specific book) then we won't include it.  As long as
we comply with the OGL we could legally include anything that is OGL without
needing the publisher's permission, but that goes against the long-standing
policy we've had for PCGen.

For D20 and OGL Games Publishers:
---------------------------------

Please read our OpenLetter to all D20 Games Publishers at:

http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/docs/openletter.html

We'd love to convert your material for use with PCGen.  We have a Publisher
Liaison team who are the ones to contact about getting your material into PCGen.
They're also the team that will seek you out about getting your permission, and
will send you the files for your approval before we include it in a production
release.  If you have anything declared as product identity, we can mark it
clearly as such within PCGen or not include it.  This is a free way for your
material to get widespread use without without giving out so much detail that
purchasing the material is no longer necessary. Email us or post on our yahoo
message board if you'd like more information.

Also see: http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Publishers

What does the Board of Directors of PCGen do?
---------------------------------------------

A few people have asked about the Board of Directors (BoD) and their role in
PCGen, so I thought I'd try to come up with a short and sweet explanation.

The BoD is a group that brings together the leaders of every team (Code, Data,
Docs, Publisher Liason, OGL/Licenses, Output Sheets etc) to make sure that
inter-group communications are working. It also decides on general policies to
guide the project in general. One example is that we discussed and decided to
drop d20 compliance for PCGen.  We also discuss what kinds of requirements we
might have on any 3rd party group that would want to claim compliance with
PCGen. Another issue is where to host data - the preferred place is in the
official releases, but there are a couple of situations that would preclude that
from happening: if a publisher wants to host the data themselves and not include
it in an official release (we'd require that the data be free) or if a special
license was required then the publisher or some other site that was compatible
with that license would need to host the data - in all circumstances the data
would be free. The BoD also discusses any key issues for each group - like "What
does the data team need from any of the other teams to finish off book X?". The
BoD does not assign anyone to book X or to fix the bugs/features related to that
book. The BoD simply helps facilitate discussion between the teams so the team
leads can then decide who they want to assign to those tasks. This is a
volunteer project, so someone who is assigned to something doesn't have to do
it, but hopefully the volunteer will tackle it out of a desire to see book X
completed, or out of pity for the team lead! :)

This is an open source project, and as a community project, this means that
everyone is giving their time and talent to improve a product for the entire
PCGen audience. The BoD helps direct the project by providing groundrules and
policies to keep things running smoothly. In return for the volunteer's aid and
compliance with those policies, the BoD promises to make it's policies
transparent and fair as possible. This way there are no surprises for anyone on
any team. The BoD recognizes that it's policies aren't perfect, and is very
willing to accept suggestions!

http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Board_of_Directors

Where can I discuss PCGen and interact with the developers?
-----------------------------------------------------------

Generally speaking you can login to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen

You can check out the PCGen page from which you can view and post Messages. If
you have any questions about PCGen, that's the place to send your question. Most
of the developers hang out there on a regular basis, and a number of other very
involved non-developers are also available to answer any questions you might
have.

Where/How do I report Bugs or request features?
-----------------------------------------------

You can submit a bug either by posting a message to the yahoo group with [BUG]
in its title, or by going to Bug page at the JIRA site and entering a bug there
directly.  We commonly refer to the feature requests as FREQ for short, and you
can either post a message with [FREQ] in the title or enter it directly in the
JIRA site.  In both cases, the more detailed a bug/FREQ is, the more likely it
will be addressed in the near future.  We prefer FREQs be posted at the yahoo
group initially so others can help iron out any details or brainstorm on how to
improve the functionality.

* What do I need to run PCGen?
------------------------------

PCGen 5.10.2 (and above) requires JRE 1.5.0_11 (and above - this can be found at
http://www.java.com), which means it will run on any OS that supports that
version of Java.  Many of our installers now remove the need for you to worry
about installing Java.

What's available at the Yahoo site?
-----------------------------------

In the Files page there are a number of folders you should know about - there's
Campaign+Central folder where lots of user added Campaigns are available.
There's a folder for new character sheet templates that aren't included in the
standard releases, and there's a folder for Character PCG files when users have
problems that they need help diagnosing. Users who want to send in corrections
or updates to anything that's included in the official releases of PCGen should
upload those files to our JIRA system where one of us, including our very own
Portal to the Negative Plane, will make sure it gets included in the next
release.

Thanks, and welcome aboard!

Bryan McRoberts (Benevolent Dictator of PCGen), Karianna (Chair Monkey of the
BoD) and the Moderators

#107957 From: "justinhonea71" <justinhonea71@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:55 pm
Subject: Source files will not load
justinhonea71
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Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a new
computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but the
"summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where skills,
equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest Java and
fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if this is
the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the correct place.

Thank you for your time,

Justin a.k.a. "Rune"

#107958 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 1:07 am
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
Drew0500
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Hi Justin,

This is the place. What version of PCGen are you using? which sources? and you
mentioned new
computer, which version of Java is it using?

On 4/30/2012 4:55 PM, justinhonea71 wrote:
> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> Justin a.k.a. "Rune"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Related Lists
> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>
>
> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
>
> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
> (for new official data source development)
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#107959 From: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 11:39 am
Subject: File - Greetings from Moderator Monkeys.txt
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Greetings:

* This was last updated 19th of August 2009

Posting guidelines:
-------------------

http://wiki.pcgen.org/index.php?title=Posting_Guidelines

Here is a re-emphasis of those guidelines:
------------------------------------------

We are the Moderator Monkeys. There. We said it. We hope you all enjoyed it,
as it's the first, last, and only time we will refer to ourselves as such,
actually we tell a lie, but that's OK, because we're the Moderators :-)

You've all read the posting guidelines, right? Ha! Fat chance! We've only read
them once myself in several years of service to PCGen. That's a rather long and
lengthy read, not to mention boring. We'll point out the part that concerns us,
and therefore you, the most. We'll even sum it up in two words (points to
anybody that knows where the words come from...don't respond, you know who you
are):

-------
Be Nice
-------

That's it. That's the rule. Be Nice. If you have a disagreement with someone, Be
Nice. If someone's point of view irritates you, Be Nice. If anyone irritates
you, Be Nice. If someone insults your mother, Be Nice.

How, you ask, will you know when it's time to not Be Nice? We're glad you asked
us that. It's a simple answer. It's NEVER time for you to not Be Nice. If you
decide to not Be Nice, we start charging up the Ninja Monkeys. If you're not
nice, we'll close the thread and ask you to Be Nice. If you ignore our request
to Be Nice, we'll close down the thread, again, and TELL you to Be Nice. If you
ignore that we'll get irritated. We really hate having to close a thread more
than once. If you make us close it a third time, we'll whip out the Stick of
Doom(TM), smack you upside the head with it, and then gag you.  Oh yeah and the
Ninja Monkeys will then take bits of your soul and scatter it across the
wastelands.

What's a gag, you ask? That's a simple one to answer too. A gag is where we
remove your posting privileges. If we have to gag you, the typical time is as
follows.

First offence: You get off easy, you lucky sod. You only get gagged for one
day.

Second offence: You don't get off quite as lucky. You get gagged for three
days.

Third offence: By this time, we're becoming VERY irritated with you. You get
gagged for however long we feel like gagging you at the time.
Any offence beyond the third: Now you've flat out Torqued us off! You get one
of two things. Gagged for a VERY long time, or gagged subject to banning by the
BoD (that means you're gagged until the BoD removes you from the project, or the
BoD in a majority decision, makes a very special, very persuasive,
request that you be un-gagged).

Now for the bad news <evil grin>. The above times are NOT set in stone, as some
of you are habitual offenders. You all know who you are, so we don't have to
name any names. Most of you get to skip the request, skip the order, and go
straight to the first offence. Some of you get to skip that and go to the
second offence. A small number of you get to go straight to the third offence.
A VERY select few of you are already at the very long time, or even the gagged
subject to banning by the BoD. That select few: you know who you are. This is
your ONLY warning.

That is the only sidetrack we're making for the habitual offenders. Now
everybody else (the very large majority of our community) pay attention!
Request, Order, Gag is what happens in the typical situation. Not every
situation is typical (imagine that). There will be times where the request phase
will be skipped, and even times when the order phase will be skipped and you'll
go straight to gagged, even though you've never been offensive. We don't expect
those times to happen often, but we imagine they will happen, so we're giving
everyone fair warning. It all depends on how much you offend us <evil grin>.
we'll give you all an example, from recent times, even. If anyone, in any way,
shape or form that we can possibly imagine, bashes/flames any publisher on these
boards, you proceed directly to a minimum of first offence, more depending on
how offensive you were.

Now, we're going to put something to rest right away. Code Monkey Publishing IS
A PUBLISHER, and we're tired of hearing them bashed on and flamed until
well-done. If you don't agree with us, TOUGH! You can disagree with us all you
want off the boards, this is not subject to discussion on the board. Only
warning.

OK, we think we all understand each other now, don't you? Time for us to wrap
this up. What, there's a question in the back? OK, go ahead

Question: You're not just going to leave it like that, are you? You're going
to say something nice to wrap everything up, just like the rest of the BoD,
right?

Answer: Well OK then, we really, really love the fact that we have such a large
a passionate community, we're sorry for the rules, but with 5000+ and counting
of you something had to be done, think of it as the Iron Monkey Paws in the
Velvet Gloves :-)

--------------------------------------------------------------
New Policy on Asking Questions about PI/Closed Content Sources
--------------------------------------------------------------

We respect the Publishers wishes with regards to PI and Closed Content
and therefore strongly prefer that any discussion of the creation of
those data sources are held in Generic terms.

However, we realise that a vast majority of you are asking questions
on how to code data sets for your own personal use and so we're no
longer going to growl or wave fingers at people who mention a
PI/Closed Content reference when asking questions. We will however
continue to state our responses to those questions in a generic manner
and hope that you'll do the same.

We will still not tolerate any PI/Closed Content being uploaded to our
file areas or any attempts at illegally sharing data sources.

Examples:
---------

1.) A user asking how to code the Skirmish ability from the Complete
Adventurer (WotC) will receive a helpful polite answer phrased in
generic terms, e.g "To implement an Ability that gives 1d6 damage
every 3 levels you'd want to look to the Rogue sneak attack
progression in our SRD files". But no more finger waving or growling
from the Moderators!

2.) A user stating that they want someone to give them a privately
coded data source for the Complete Adventurer set will be warned etc.

3.) A user uploading the Complete Adventurer data source will be
warned etc.

So, for all community members, there's no longer any need to call in
the Moderator if a PI/Closed Content question is asked. We will step
in if necessary if someone blatantly abuses this new policy.

For reference:
--------------

Closed Content/PI is any data source that we don't have permission to
publish ourselves or isn't OGL/OGC.

Please see:

http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/autobuilds/pcgen-docs/acknowledgments/publishersand\
sources.html

For a list of publisher permissions that we currently have.

PapaDRB and Karianna - on behalf of the Moderators
- This doc was modified from Mynex's and Hetter's original doc.

#107960 From: "justinhonea71" <justinhonea71@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
justinhonea71
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Thank you for the quick reply!

I am currently using the latest update for Java 6.0.290 I am using PCgen version
5.16.4. I am using the Pathfinder sources and the DnD 3.5 Source loads. Both of
which malfunction in the same area, the summary and description tabs work fine
but not any other tab including the character sheet.




--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> This is the place. What version of PCGen are you using? which sources? and you
mentioned new
> computer, which version of Java is it using?
>
> On 4/30/2012 4:55 PM, justinhonea71 wrote:
> > Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
> >
> > Thank you for your time,
> >
> > Justin a.k.a. "Rune"
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Related Lists
> > PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
> > PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
> > PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
> > PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
> >
> >
> > PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
> > (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
> >
> > PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
> > (for new official data source development)
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#107961 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Source files will not load
Drew0500
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Hi,

Can you grab the latest version of pcgen and verify it still doesn't work for
you?

5.17.12... If you need companions and natural attacks, then grab 5.17.10

On 5/1/2012 7:35 AM, justinhonea71 wrote:
> Thank you for the quick reply!
>
> I am currently using the latest update for Java 6.0.290 I am using PCgen
version 5.16.4. I am using the Pathfinder sources and the DnD 3.5 Source loads.
Both of which malfunction in the same area, the summary and description tabs
work fine but not any other tab including the character sheet.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> This is the place. What version of PCGen are you using? which sources? and
you mentioned new
>> computer, which version of Java is it using?
>>
>> On 4/30/2012 4:55 PM, justinhonea71 wrote:
>>> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time,
>>>
>>> Justin a.k.a. "Rune"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Related Lists
>>> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
>>> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
>>> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
>>> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>>>
>>>
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#107962 From: James Dempsey <jdempsey@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
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Hi Justin,

On 1/05/2012 9:55 AM justinhonea71 wrote
> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.

You must be running Java 7 on your new computer. You have two options to
get PCGen working  grab the latest alpha, 5.17.12 (and we'll have a new
one out on the weekend), or downgrade from Java 7 to Java 6. Versions of
PCGen prior to 5.17.11 were not compatible with Java 7.

Cheers,
James.

#107963 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
Drew0500
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Hi James,

His reply to me:

I am currently using the latest update for Java 6.0.290 I am using PCgen version
5.16.4. I am using the Pathfinder sources and the DnD 3.5 Source loads. Both of
which malfunction in the same area, the summary and description tabs work fine
but not any other tab including the character sheet.



On 5/1/2012 1:58 PM, James Dempsey wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> On 1/05/2012 9:55 AM justinhonea71 wrote
>> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
> You must be running Java 7 on your new computer. You have two options to
> get PCGen working  grab the latest alpha, 5.17.12 (and we'll have a new
> one out on the weekend), or downgrade from Java 7 to Java 6. Versions of
> PCGen prior to 5.17.11 were not compatible with Java 7.
>
> Cheers,
> James.
>
>
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>
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> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>
>
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> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
>
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> (for new official data source development)
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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#107964 From: James Dempsey <jdempsey@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
james_dempse...
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Hi

Ah in that case it must be OpenJDK, such as used on Linux. The solution
is the same.

Cheers,
James.

On 2/05/2012 7:18 AM Andrew wrote
> Hi James,
>
> His reply to me:
> I am currently using the latest update for Java 6.0.290 I am using PCgen
version 5.16.4. I am using the Pathfinder sources and the DnD 3.5 Source loads.
Both of which malfunction in the same area, the summary and description tabs
work fine but not any other tab including the character sheet.
>
>
> On 5/1/2012 1:58 PM, James Dempsey wrote:
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> On 1/05/2012 9:55 AM justinhonea71 wrote
>>> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
>> You must be running Java 7 on your new computer. You have two options to
>> get PCGen working  grab the latest alpha, 5.17.12 (and we'll have a new
>> one out on the weekend), or downgrade from Java 7 to Java 6. Versions of
>> PCGen prior to 5.17.11 were not compatible with Java 7.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> James.
>>



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#107965 From: "xOrionx" <tmbustos@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
sanditetuba2005
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--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "justinhonea71" <justinhonea71@...> wrote:
>
> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> Justin a.k.a. "Rune"
>


I'm having this same issue as well. Thanks.

#107966 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
Drew0500
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Hi James,

Can we update the wiki of common issues and the fixes?

On 5/1/2012 2:41 PM, James Dempsey wrote:
> Hi
>
> Ah in that case it must be OpenJDK, such as used on Linux. The solution
> is the same.
>
> Cheers,
> James.
>
> On 2/05/2012 7:18 AM Andrew wrote
>> Hi James,
>>
>> His reply to me:
>> I am currently using the latest update for Java 6.0.290 I am using PCgen
version 5.16.4. I am using the Pathfinder sources and the DnD 3.5 Source loads.
Both of which malfunction in the same area, the summary and description tabs
work fine but not any other tab including the character sheet.
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/2012 1:58 PM, James Dempsey wrote:
>>> Hi Justin,
>>>
>>> On 1/05/2012 9:55 AM justinhonea71 wrote
>>>> Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got
a new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab
but the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
>>> You must be running Java 7 on your new computer. You have two options to
>>> get PCGen working  grab the latest alpha, 5.17.12 (and we'll have a new
>>> one out on the weekend), or downgrade from Java 7 to Java 6. Versions of
>>> PCGen prior to 5.17.11 were not compatible with Java 7.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> James.
>>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
>
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> (for new official data source development)
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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#107967 From: "justinhonea71" <justinhonea71@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 2:09 am
Subject: Re: Source files will not load
justinhonea71
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Hallelujah! Yes, the 5.17.12 works perfectly! Thank you for your time:) And btw,
nice job updating it! Look cool and smooooooooth. xD

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, James Dempsey <jdempsey@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> On 1/05/2012 9:55 AM justinhonea71 wrote
> > Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i got a
new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any other tab but
the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in the place where
skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are listed. I have the latest
Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on my computer. I don't know if
this is the right group to ask so if its not then please direct me to the
correct place.
>
> You must be running Java 7 on your new computer. You have two options to
> get PCGen working  grab the latest alpha, 5.17.12 (and we'll have a new
> one out on the weekend), or downgrade from Java 7 to Java 6. Versions of
> PCGen prior to 5.17.11 were not compatible with Java 7.
>
> Cheers,
> James.
>

#107968 From: James Dempsey <jdempsey@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 3:44 am
Subject: Re: Re: Source files will not load
james_dempse...
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Thanks Justin! Good to hear it is working and the feedback :)

Cheers,
James Dempsey
PCGen Code SB


On 2 May 2012 12:09, justinhonea71 <justinhonea71@...> wrote:

> Hallelujah! Yes, the 5.17.12 works perfectly! Thank you for your time:)
> And btw, nice job updating it! Look cool and smooooooooth. xD
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, James Dempsey <jdempsey@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > On 1/05/2012 9:55 AM justinhonea71 wrote
> > > Help! I've been using PCgen for months and never had a problem. Then i
> got a new computer. Suddenly when I use PCgen it works until I click any
> other tab but the "summary" tab. There is nothing but a grey background in
> the place where skills, equipment, domain, spells, etc. normally are
> listed. I have the latest Java and fulfill all requirements to use PCgen on
> my computer. I don't know if this is the right group to ask so if its not
> then please direct me to the correct place.
> >
> > You must be running Java 7 on your new computer. You have two options to
> > get PCGen working  grab the latest alpha, 5.17.12 (and we'll have a new
> > one out on the weekend), or downgrade from Java 7 to Java 6. Versions of
> > PCGen prior to 5.17.11 were not compatible with Java 7.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > James.
> >
>


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#107969 From: John Bauldree <balingar@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 8:11 pm
Subject: Feature for PCGen?
balingar
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Is there a way to see what skills / feats were purchased at specific character
level?  Could that be set up if there isn't?

Thanks,
John

#107970 From: Saxum Caribetum <saxum.caribetum@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 10:01 pm
Subject: Re: PaizoCon 2012
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On 11/03/2012 10:44, Martijn Verburg wrote:
> Unfortunately at this stage, not in an official capacity no, we haven't got
> the funds to do anything more than Gencon (and that's a struggle at times).
> - K
>
> On 10 March 2012 16:34, tripleh5133<tripleh5133@...>  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> I was wondering if PCGen was going to be represented at PaizoCon?
>>
>> http://paizo.com/paizocon
>>
>>
>>
>

I am in no way an official rep of PCGen,
but I am a regular reader of the mailing lists, user of PCGen, and
occasional bug-submitter... :-)

I *am* going to PaizoCon UK 2012  http://www.paizocon.co.uk/

I'm happy to make noises in support of PCGen, or such...

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#107971 From: "redfox_nightfox" <redfoxonown@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 2:26 am
Subject: Awakened Animal Template Skill Distrobution Problem?
redfox_nightfox
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One of my friends showed me this program a few months ago, and I finally got
around to taking a look at it today.

I tried to make an awakened cat, but the skill tab showed that I had 8 total
skill points to spend, (max rank 6/cross  rank 3) but the skill level list
showed

Animal/1 [8/8]
Animal/2 [2/2]
Animal/3 [2/2]

To keep from getting an error of spending too many points, I only spend the
first 8. I add classes to this, it will mess up because of unspent animal class
points, but if I use all the class points, the program says I have too many
skill points used, with the total skill points left reading -4.

What do I do? Do I just ignore this? Is there a step I'm missing to get that
"skill points left" to acknowledge the other level's skill points?

Any help would be appreciated.

#107972 From: "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 3:15 am
Subject: Re: Awakened Animal Template Skill Distrobution Problem?
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PCGen version?
Datasets loaded? (ie. Pathfinder, 3.5, 3.0. Modern, etc.)

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On 5/4/2012 10:26 PM, redfox_nightfox wrote:
> One of my friends showed me this program a few months ago, and I finally got
around to taking a look at it today.
>
> I tried to make an awakened cat, but the skill tab showed that I had 8 total
skill points to spend, (max rank 6/cross  rank 3) but the skill level list
showed
>
> Animal/1 [8/8]
> Animal/2 [2/2]
> Animal/3 [2/2]
>
> To keep from getting an error of spending too many points, I only spend the
first 8. I add classes to this, it will mess up because of unspent animal class
points, but if I use all the class points, the program says I have too many
skill points used, with the total skill points left reading -4.
>
> What do I do? Do I just ignore this? Is there a step I'm missing to get that
"skill points left" to acknowledge the other level's skill points?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
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>
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> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
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> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>
>
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> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
>
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> (for new official data source development)
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>
>
>
>

#107973 From: "redfox_nightfox" <redfoxonown@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 5:10 am
Subject: Re: Awakened Animal Template Skill Distrobution Problem?
redfox_nightfox
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Oh, sorry... PCGen version 5.16.4 (the latest one, according to the website)
with 3.5e dataset loaded.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Bender" <Papa.DRB@...> wrote:
>
> PCGen version?
> Datasets loaded? (ie. Pathfinder, 3.5, 3.0. Modern, etc.)
>

#107974 From: "redfox_nightfox" <redfoxonown@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: Awakened Animal Template Skill Distrobution Problem?
redfox_nightfox
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After messing around with the program some more over the course of several
hours, I think I found a workaround fix. Instead of clicking "add monster/add
kit" for creating the cat, I have to make it manually, and then add the "awaken
animal" template.

Before adding any skill points, I subtracted the 2 levels gained from the
"awakened animal" template and then added them back, and the skill points reset
correctly.

Dunno why this works, but it does. Bit of a long way around to do though.

#107975 From: Andrew <drew0500@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Awakened Animal Template Skill Distrobution Problem?
Drew0500
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Hi,

Submit a bug report please - jira.pcgen.org

Thanks,

On 5/5/2012 11:15 AM, redfox_nightfox wrote:
> After messing around with the program some more over the course of several
hours, I think I found a workaround fix. Instead of clicking "add monster/add
kit" for creating the cat, I have to make it manually, and then add the "awaken
animal" template.
>
> Before adding any skill points, I subtracted the 2 levels gained from the
"awakened animal" template and then added them back, and the skill points reset
correctly.
>
> Dunno why this works, but it does. Bit of a long way around to do though.
>
>
>
>
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>
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> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links:
http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
>
>
> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
>
> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
> (for new official data source development)
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
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Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"


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