On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 01:12, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> Send your pcg file to me, I'll look at it direct. Eye ball review of the
> code shows it to be set up
> correctly.
>

I recently changed the internals a bit, but that was 5.17.7 and I took care
to ensure backwards compatibility.

Thanks,

Henk


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Ah, so it was just recently fixed? Ok, thanks I'll be sure to update to 5.17.


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From: David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...>
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 11:18:47 AM
Subject: Re: [pcgen] Pathfinder: Retroactive Skill points with INT increase?


No - 5.16.4, Yes - 5.17.5 or later (or maybe 5.17.6)...

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On 5/30/2011 12:10 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:
> I just was reading and was reminded that in Pathfinder when your INT modifier
> increases, you DO get more skill points retroactively, so I thought, does
> PCGen's Pathfinder rules reflect this?
>
>
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Same issue as I flagged in CODE-528.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Flagging for James.
>
>
> On 5/31/2011 2:14 PM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
> > Pathfinder RPG, 5.17.6 OOC 5
> >
> > I created a Cleric (of Sarenrae) and added the Fire Domain.
> >
> > I created a prepared list, and I was offered "Burning Hands [Fire]" as
> > the Domain spell.
> > Saved the character, closed and re-loaded.
> >
> > Error during load "Warning: Could not find spell Burning Hands in
> > PCClass Cleric" -- true (sort of) but the wrong test, as it is a granted
> > spell from the Domain.
> >
> > Looking again at the now loaded character, her only has his non-Domain
> > spells prepared, but "Burning Hands [Fire]" is again in the list of
> > available spells.
> >
>
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On 01/06/2011 00:12, Andrew wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Send your pcg file to me, I'll look at it direct. Eye ball review of the code
shows it to be set up
> correctly.

zip attached
"Harrell" is the problem, along with his PDF

"New1" is not a problem, but is the sample trying again

>
> On 5/31/2011 2:46 PM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
>> Pathfinder RPG, PCGen 5.17.6 OOC5
>>
>> We have an established PC who's been through a few battles with PCGen...
>> He channels Positive Energy.
>> His PDF character sheet used to say so... but now the front page says he
>> channels negative energy, and the second page in Special Attacks lists
>> positive energy...
>> PDF Output sheet is csheet_fantasy_simple_grey.xslt
>> same with csheet_fantasy_std_grey.xlst
>>
>> reading the raw text PCG file, the only mention of channel energy is for
>> positive stuff...
>> Also, output as Standard, to htm files, he's positive/positive.
>>
>> We tried creating a quick scratch character Clr 1, or Clr 1/Wiz 1, but
>> that one comes out positive/positive in all cases.
>>
>>
>> I can post files...
>>


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On 6/1/2011 3:36 PM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
> On 01/06/2011 00:12, Andrew wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Send your pcg file to me, I'll look at it direct. Eye ball review of the code
shows it to be set up
>> correctly.
> zip attached
> "Harrell" is the problem, along with his PDF
>
> "New1" is not a problem, but is the sample trying again
>
>> On 5/31/2011 2:46 PM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
>>> Pathfinder RPG, PCGen 5.17.6 OOC5
>>>
>>> We have an established PC who's been through a few battles with PCGen...
>>> He channels Positive Energy.
>>> His PDF character sheet used to say so... but now the front page says he
>>> channels negative energy, and the second page in Special Attacks lists
>>> positive energy...
>>> PDF Output sheet is csheet_fantasy_simple_grey.xslt
>>> same with csheet_fantasy_std_grey.xlst
>>>
>>> reading the raw text PCG file, the only mention of channel energy is for
>>> positive stuff...
>>> Also, output as Standard, to htm files, he's positive/positive.
>>>
>>> We tried creating a quick scratch character Clr 1, or Clr 1/Wiz 1, but
>>> that one comes out positive/positive in all cases.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can post files...
>>>
>

It seems that Oracle known spells has a bonus based on CHA that it should not
have.

From SRD:
"Unlike other divine spellcasters, an oracle’s selection of spells is
extremely limited. An oracle begins play knowing four 0-level spells and two
1st-level spells of her choice. At each new oracle level, she gains one or more
new spells, as indicated on Table: Oracle Spells Known. Unlike spells per day,
the number of spells an oracle knows is not affected by her Charisma score; the
numbers on Table: Oracle Spells Known are fixed."


Testing:
Create an Oracle and compare various levels to the table in the SRD. The CHA
bonus for spells is improperly being applied to Known Spells as well as Cast.

thanks!

-jjh

No. There was a data bug in the cure/inflict option. It has been fixed
and is in the svn now.

However, the number of known spells will show one extra because you know
the cure/inflict spell.

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On 6/1/2011 11:49 PM, Jeffrey wrote:
> It seems that Oracle known spells has a bonus based on CHA that it should not
have.
>
> > From SRD:
> "Unlike other divine spellcasters, an oracle’s selection of spells is
extremely limited. An oracle begins play knowing four 0-level spells and two
1st-level spells of her choice. At each new oracle level, she gains one or more
new spells, as indicated on Table: Oracle Spells Known. Unlike spells per day,
the number of spells an oracle knows is not affected by her Charisma score; the
numbers on Table: Oracle Spells Known are fixed."
>
>
> Testing:
> Create an Oracle and compare various levels to the table in the SRD. The CHA
bonus for spells is improperly being applied to Known Spells as well as Cast.
>
> thanks!
>
> -jjh
>
>
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Greetings,
I use vim (originally vi), as I use that extensively at work (UNIX support &
development) and am quite comfortable with it, installed notepad++ and cant
recall offhand why I didnt take to it, ought to give it another go.

Have to agree about the whole 'vertical' verses 'horizontal' alignment setup,
class files use vertical (ish! bit of both really), and they are a heck of a lot
easier to edit. Other files (*IF* not too wide) are easy enough to maintain but
as soon as they start wrapping a couple of lines it can get tricky.

Not sure if I'd go to the bother of using a script to transfrom horizontal to
vertical (though its easy enough to write), as it adds in an extra step in the
editing process, and for minor tweaks would be just too much of an overhead...

Cheers
Ferret/Dave            oxxxxxxx{;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;>

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Henk Slaaf" <henk@...> wrote:
...
> So before I write a whole new toolset: how do you edit the LST files?
...
> PPS: For example horizontally aligned fields:
...
> Versus vertically aligned fields:
...

I also use vim and I tend to wrap just the bit I'm working on, which tends
to be at the end of the line.  I toyed with vim scripts to do the wrap and
unwrap, but didn't need them enough to finish them.
andrew
On 2 June 2011 16:05, FerretDave <ferret.griffin@...> wrote:

> Greetings,
> I use vim (originally vi), as I use that extensively at work (UNIX support
> & development) and am quite comfortable with it, installed notepad++ and
> cant recall offhand why I didnt take to it, ought to give it another go.
>
> Have to agree about the whole 'vertical' verses 'horizontal' alignment
> setup, class files use vertical (ish! bit of both really), and they are a
> heck of a lot easier to edit. Other files (*IF* not too wide) are easy
> enough to maintain but as soon as they start wrapping a couple of lines it
> can get tricky.
>
> Not sure if I'd go to the bother of using a script to transfrom horizontal
> to vertical (though its easy enough to write), as it adds in an extra step
> in the editing process, and for minor tweaks would be just too much of an
> overhead...
>
> Cheers
> Ferret/Dave            oxxxxxxx{;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;>
>
> --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Henk Slaaf" <henk@...> wrote:
> ...
> > So before I write a whole new toolset: how do you edit the LST files?
> ...
> > PPS: For example horizontally aligned fields:
> ...
> > Versus vertically aligned fields:
> ...
>
>
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>
> I use vim (originally vi), as I use that extensively at work (UNIX support
> & development) and am quite comfortable with it, installed notepad++ and
> cant recall offhand why I didnt take to it, ought to give it another go.
>

I developed these mappings to map horizontal alignment to vertical alignment
(F2) and back (F3) in vim.

; Press F2 when opening a file, press F3 before saving the file.

; Do not press F2 more than once. Add comments, but always use two newlines,
> two before the comment line, two after.

nmap <F2> :%!perl -p -e 's/\n/\n\n/g; s/\t+/\n\t/g;'<CR>
> nmap <F3> :%!perl -e 'undef $/; my $lst = <>; $lst =~ s/\n(?\!\n)//gsm;
> $lst =~ s/\n\n/\n/g; print $lst'<CR>


This works, but loses the number of tabs between the lines. This is not a
problem of you run prettylst.pl in between commits. This ensures a terse
diff, but would add a large diff if commits are made that do not use
prettylst.


Thanks,

Henk


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On 02/06/2011 19:34, Henk Slaaf wrote:
>> I use vim (originally vi), as I use that extensively at work (UNIX support
>> &  development) and am quite comfortable with it, installed notepad++ and
>> cant recall offhand why I didnt take to it, ought to give it another go.
>>
> I developed these mappings to map horizontal alignment to vertical alignment
> (F2) and back (F3) in vim.
>
> ; Press F2 when opening a file, press F3 before saving the file.
>
> ; Do not press F2 more than once. Add comments, but always use two newlines,
>> two before the comment line, two after.
> nmap<F2>  :%!perl -p -e 's/\n/\n\n/g; s/\t+/\n\t/g;'<CR>
>> nmap<F3>  :%!perl -e 'undef $/; my $lst =<>; $lst =~ s/\n(?\!\n)//gsm;
>> $lst =~ s/\n\n/\n/g; print $lst'<CR>
>
> This works, but loses the number of tabs between the lines. This is not a
> problem of you run prettylst.pl in between commits. This ensures a terse
> diff, but would add a large diff if commits are made that do not use
> prettylst.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Henk
>

Urk.
for the rest of us, especially those on Windows, I would recommend the
splendid NOTEPAD++ program, also free, which  additionally has a
syntax-colouring add-on for LST files, which makes editing them so much
easier.

      http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

It also has the benefit of having no trace of heritage from Vi, which I
am afraid, I must admit to not liking.
I don't know why the previous poster disagreed with Notepad++ - I find
it useful for almost all plain-text purposes.

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PCGen 5.17.6 OOC5, PFRPG, or PFRPG+APG

Given a Druid and her Wolf Animal Companion,

if I load the Druid, and use Inventory \ Resources \ Load..., the Wolf
is fine

if I start again, and load Wolf, he has no Animal Tricks, Companion
Level Increase, or Companion Stat Increase

if I Update From Master, this does not improve
if I load Wolf, load Druid, Update From Master, I still have no
Companion related matter on the Wolf.

Is this (a) a bug or (b) a (mis-)feature of PCGen?

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Hi,

I'm confused - 5.17.6 OOC5. Are you overwriting the 5.17.6 files with the OOC???
Not a good thing,
since the OOC5 should be the same as 5.17.6.

Okay, now to address your issue:


On 6/2/2011 12:25 PM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
> PCGen 5.17.6 OOC5, PFRPG, or PFRPG+APG
>
> Given a Druid and her Wolf Animal Companion,

Okay, step 1, loading is good. :)

> if I load the Druid, and use Inventory \ Resources \ Load..., the Wolf
> is fine

Yay. You've done it correctly.

> if I start again, and load Wolf, he has no Animal Tricks, Companion
> Level Increase, or Companion Stat Increase

Correct. Since everything on your wolf is tied to the master, and without a
master, he has no power.
i.e. you are loading a regular wolf at this point (No boosts exist for him, the
companion mods are
NIL). That's like loading the PC without your optional set, and then seeing a
warning it doesn't
have x <insert power, template, item, etc>. You aren't loading the Whole
Picture. Companions aren't
"separate" entities, they are completely tied to the Master Character.

> if I Update From Master, this does not improve

Also correct. The Master isn't loaded up, has nothing TO update.

> if I load Wolf, load Druid, Update From Master, I still have no
> Companion related matter on the Wolf.

Weird, but probably correct. I could call this a bug, but only in a loose sense.
See, PCs have this
nice feature in the Inventory/Resources section - Load Companions on load. If
you click that, the
wolf will load up. Otherwise, you need to load your wolf via the Inventory. You
might be able to
load the druid, and then load the wolf separately and have it work. But loading
the wolf and then
the druid is out of order. So, bug, probably for this one step, the rest, sorry,
that's actually how
the program works, as the MASTER i.e. Druid, has all the information and holds
the data that makes
the Wolf the uber Companion s/he should be.


> Is this (a) a bug or (b) a (mis-)feature of PCGen?

Wolf and then Druid, maybe. The rest is just the program operating how it's
designed.


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I taking part in a custom Pathfinder game, where the normal Pathfinder Core
Rulebook and the Traits Web Enhancement is used.

Our GM told us to add 2 additional traits to our characters when we create them.
I guess this is a house rule for the game.

I am unable to figure out how to add 2 additional traits to our characters.
Under traits, it shows we have 0 traits outstanding, which would be correct for
a normal standard Pathfinder game. How does one increase the value to be 2 so we
can choose two traits from the list of traits?

If there is need to create a custom campaign to implement the addition of two
traits, please tell me how to create the list files to achieve this.

Hi,




On 6/3/2011 7:32 AM, arawn.darkone wrote:
> I taking part in a custom Pathfinder game, where the normal Pathfinder Core
Rulebook and the Traits Web Enhancement is used.
>
> Our GM told us to add 2 additional traits to our characters when we create
them. I guess this is a house rule for the game.

I'd agree, house rules.

> I am unable to figure out how to add 2 additional traits to our characters.
Under traits, it shows we have 0 traits outstanding, which would be correct for
a normal standard Pathfinder game. How does one increase the value to be 2 so we
can choose two traits from the list of traits?

Switch to the Traits tab, put 2 in the box for an additional 2. What you'll find
is there is already
an assigned "No Traits" ability, if you remove that, then you have the original
2 trait choices you
should have.

> If there is need to create a custom campaign to implement the addition of two
traits, please tell me how to create the list files to achieve this.

Only if you are adding NEW traits that aren't provided.

Cheers,

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Thanx for the information. My problem is fixed.

--- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
>
> On 6/3/2011 7:32 AM, arawn.darkone wrote:
> > I taking part in a custom Pathfinder game, where the normal Pathfinder Core
Rulebook and the Traits Web Enhancement is used.
> >
> > Our GM told us to add 2 additional traits to our characters when we create
them. I guess this is a house rule for the game.
>
> I'd agree, house rules.
>
> > I am unable to figure out how to add 2 additional traits to our characters.
Under traits, it shows we have 0 traits outstanding, which would be correct for
a normal standard Pathfinder game. How does one increase the value to be 2 so we
can choose two traits from the list of traits?
>
> Switch to the Traits tab, put 2 in the box for an additional 2. What you'll
find is there is already
> an assigned "No Traits" ability, if you remove that, then you have the
original 2 trait choices you
> should have.
>
> > If there is need to create a custom campaign to implement the addition of
two traits, please tell me how to create the list files to achieve this.
>
> Only if you are adding NEW traits that aren't provided.
>
> Cheers,
>
> >
> >
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The PCGen Team is proud to announce the release and immediate
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Guide OOC Data Set!

Download your copy today:
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This release is the sixth in a series of updates aimed at bringing the
most current fixes for the Pathfinder APG data set to v5.16.4. It can be
installed on top of updates 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 but does not require them.

Besides delivering the latest APG data set, this file patches the
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook and Bestiary. For more
information about this release, including OOC installation instructions,
please check out the full release notes here:

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nload

This release is an "alpha" release and therefore will contain errors.
The PCGen Team is dedicated to providing full support for the Pathfinder
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So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this update,
or do I already have it?





________________________________
From: David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...>
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com; pcgen_experimental@yahoogroups.com;
PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:17:27 AM
Subject: [pcgen] Pathfinder Advanced Players Guide OOC Data Set Update 6
Released!


The PCGen Team is proud to announce the release and immediate
availability of the sixth update to the Pathfinder Advanced Players
Guide OOC Data Set!

Download your copy today:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/files/PCGen%20Stable%20Datasets/5.16.4%20O\
OC%20Data%20Sets/5164_piazo_pathfinder_alpha_update_06.pcz/download


This release is the sixth in a series of updates aimed at bringing the
most current fixes for the Pathfinder APG data set to v5.16.4. It can be
installed on top of updates 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 but does not require them.

Besides delivering the latest APG data set, this file patches the
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook and Bestiary. For more
information about this release, including OOC installation instructions,
please check out the full release notes here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/files/PCGen%20Stable%20Datasets/5.16.4%20O\
OC%20Data%20Sets/pcgen-pathfinder-apg-dataset-update-release-notes-5164.html/dow\
nload


This release is an "alpha" release and therefore will contain errors.
The PCGen Team is dedicated to providing full support for the Pathfinder
Roleplaying Game so we ask you, the PCGen Community, to help us by
putting this data set through its paces and reporting any bugs you find
to the PCGen Team by posting them here on PCGen@Yahoo!. Please include
[PATHFINDER] in the subject line for your report.

PCGen is an RPG character generator and maintenance program (d20
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Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
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Update 6 was based on the 5.17.7 release set with only a small handfull of
additional edits. I'll take a look to see which ones they were and will post the
info this evening.

Maredudd

On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:

>
> So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this update,
> or do I already have it?
>
> ________________________________
> From: David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...>
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com; pcgen_experimental@yahoogroups.com;
> PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:17:27 AM
> Subject: [pcgen] Pathfinder Advanced Players Guide OOC Data Set Update 6
> Released!
>
> The PCGen Team is proud to announce the release and immediate
> availability of the sixth update to the Pathfinder Advanced Players
> Guide OOC Data Set!
>
> Download your copy today:
>
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/files/PCGen%20Stable%20Datasets/5.16.4%20O\
OC%20Data%20Sets/5164_piazo_pathfinder_alpha_update_06.pcz/download
>
> This release is the sixth in a series of updates aimed at bringing the
> most current fixes for the Pathfinder APG data set to v5.16.4. It can be
> installed on top of updates 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 but does not require them.
>
> Besides delivering the latest APG data set, this file patches the
> Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook and Bestiary. For more
> information about this release, including OOC installation instructions,
> please check out the full release notes here:
>
>
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/files/PCGen%20Stable%20Datasets/5.16.4%20O\
OC%20Data%20Sets/pcgen-pathfinder-apg-dataset-update-release-notes-5164.html/dow\
nload
>
> This release is an "alpha" release and therefore will contain errors.
> The PCGen Team is dedicated to providing full support for the Pathfinder
> Roleplaying Game so we ask you, the PCGen Community, to help us by
> putting this data set through its paces and reporting any bugs you find
> to the PCGen Team by posting them here on PCGen@Yahoo!. Please include
> [PATHFINDER] in the subject line for your report.
>
> PCGen is an RPG character generator and maintenance program (d20
> systems). All datafiles are ASCII text files so they can be modified by
> users for their own campaigns. For more information about PCGen, join us
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/ or visit our website at
> http://pcgen.sourceforge.net and wiki at http://wiki.pcgen.org/.
>
> This dataset uses trademarks and/or copyrights owned by Paizo
> Publishing, LLC, which are used under Paizo's Community Use Policy. We
> are expressly prohibited from charging you to use or access this
> content. This dataset is not published, endorsed, or specifically
> approved by Paizo Publishing. For more information about Paizo's
> Community Use Policy, please visit http://paizo.com/communityuse. For
> more information about Paizo Publishing and Paizo products, please visit
> http://paizo.com.
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> -- david
> Papa.DRB
>
> My better half and me (jpg)
> <http://mysite.verizon.net/vze16ni4g/Nana-and-Papa2.JPG>
> Love Me If You Can by Toby Keith (video)
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qu7jGYzS_A>
>
> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
> believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase 1888-1985)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>



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Ok, i just noticed today I was making a high level Bard and when I added the
Sandman archetype, then added more levels, it still was asking me to pick my
Versatile Performance skills on those higher levels, even though one of
Sandman's abilities replaces Versatile Performance.


'Take my love, take my land, I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the
sky from me. Take me out to the Black, tell them I ain't comin' back, burn the
land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can
be, since I've found Serenity, you can't take the sky from me." -- Joss Whedon,
Ballad of Serenity

RagabashMoon@...





________________________________
From: Eric C Smith <maredudd@...>
To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 3:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: [pcgen] Pathfinder Advanced Players Guide OOC Data Set Update 6
Released!

Update 6 was based on the 5.17.7 release set with only a small handfull of
additional edits. I'll take a look to see which ones they were and will post the
info this evening.

Maredudd

On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:

>
> So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this update,

> or do I already have it?
>
> ________________________________
> From: David R. Bender <Papa.DRB@...>
> To: pcgen@yahoogroups.com; pcgen_experimental@yahoogroups.com;
> PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:17:27 AM
> Subject: [pcgen] Pathfinder Advanced Players Guide OOC Data Set Update 6
> Released!
>
> The PCGen Team is proud to announce the release and immediate
> availability of the sixth update to the Pathfinder Advanced Players
> Guide OOC Data Set!
>
> Download your copy today:
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/files/PCGen%20Stable%20Datasets/5.16.4%20\
OOC%20Data%20Sets/5164_piazo_pathfinder_alpha_update_06.pcz/download
>d
>
> This release is the sixth in a series of updates aimed at bringing the
> most current fixes for the Pathfinder APG data set to v5.16.4. It can be
> installed on top of updates 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 but does not require them.
>
> Besides delivering the latest APG data set, this file patches the
> Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook and Bestiary. For more
> information about this release, including OOC installation instructions,
> please check out the full release notes here:
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcgen/files/PCGen%20Stable%20Datasets/5.16.4%20\
OOC%20Data%20Sets/pcgen-pathfinder-apg-dataset-update-release-notes-5164.html/do\
wnload
>d
>
> This release is an "alpha" release and therefore will contain errors.
> The PCGen Team is dedicated to providing full support for the Pathfinder
> Roleplaying Game so we ask you, the PCGen Community, to help us by
> putting this data set through its paces and reporting any bugs you find
> to the PCGen Team by posting them here on PCGen@Yahoo!. Please include
> [PATHFINDER] in the subject line for your report.
>
> PCGen is an RPG character generator and maintenance program (d20
> systems). All datafiles are ASCII text files so they can be modified by
> users for their own campaigns. For more information about PCGen, join us
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/ or visit our website at
> http://pcgen.sourceforge.net and wiki at http://wiki.pcgen.org/.
>
> This dataset uses trademarks and/or copyrights owned by Paizo
> Publishing, LLC, which are used under Paizo's Community Use Policy. We
> are expressly prohibited from charging you to use or access this
> content. This dataset is not published, endorsed, or specifically
> approved by Paizo Publishing. For more information about Paizo's
> Community Use Policy, please visit http://paizo.com/communityuse. For
> more information about Paizo Publishing and Paizo products, please visit
> http://paizo.com.
> --
>
> -- david
> Papa.DRB
>
> My better half and me (jpg)
> <http://mysite.verizon.net/vze16ni4g/Nana-and-Papa2.JPG>
> Love Me If You Can by Toby Keith (video)
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qu7jGYzS_A>
>
> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
> For those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't
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>
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On 04/06/2011 21:55, Eric C Smith wrote:
> Update 6 was based on the 5.17.7 release set with only a small handfull of
additional edits. I'll take a look to see which ones they were and will post the
info this evening.
>
> Maredudd
>
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:
>
>> So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this
update,
>> or do I already have it?
>>

I'm running 5.17.6

is it better to install OOC6 or 5.17.7 (ie how stable is 5.17.7?)

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Hi,

5.17.7 is stable enough that I use it for every day gaming. Look at the release
notes, it says what
all is included.

It also includes several OS improvements..

OOC is just pure data last I checked. I could be wrong, I didn't look at what
Eric threw in it.

Spells are revamps - Concentration now displays, Skills have a nicer look. Stat
block has several
improvements.

Check it out and compare.

Cheers,


On 6/5/2011 1:04 AM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
> On 04/06/2011 21:55, Eric C Smith wrote:
>> Update 6 was based on the 5.17.7 release set with only a small handfull of
additional edits. I'll take a look to see which ones they were and will post the
info this evening.
>>
>> Maredudd
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:
>>
>>> So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this
update,
>>> or do I already have it?
>>>
> I'm running 5.17.6
>
> is it better to install OOC6 or 5.17.7 (ie how stable is 5.17.7?)
>

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Hi Folks!Andrew wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 5.17.7 is stable enough that I use it for every day gaming. Look at the
release notes, it says what
> all is included.
>
> It also includes several OS improvements..
>
> OOC is just pure data last I checked. I could be wrong, I didn't look at what
Eric threw in it.

I added the base.xml and fantasy_master OSes as well.

>
> Spells are revamps - Concentration now displays, Skills have a nicer look.
Stat block has several
> improvements.
>
> Check it out and compare.
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 6/5/2011 1:04 AM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
> > On 04/06/2011 21:55, Eric C Smith wrote:
> >> Update 6 was based on the 5.17.7 release set with only a small handfull of
additional edits. I'll take a look to see which ones they were and will post the
info this evening.
> >>
> >> Maredudd
> >>
> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:
> >>
> >>> So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this
update,
> >>> or do I already have it?
> >>>
> > I'm running 5.17.6
> >
> > is it better to install OOC6 or 5.17.7 (ie how stable is 5.17.7?)
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

Hi,




On 6/5/2011 7:52 AM, Eric C Smith wrote:
> Hi Folks!Andrew wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 5.17.7 is stable enough that I use it for every day gaming. Look at the
release notes, it says what
>> all is included.
>>
>> It also includes several OS improvements..
>>
>> OOC is just pure data last I checked. I could be wrong, I didn't look at what
Eric threw in it.
> I added the base.xml and fantasy_master OSes as well.

Nice! Well, there ya go. A Few extra Pathfinder updates since the release AND
the nice revamped OS
Sheets - PDF only though. For those using the htm, not much action going on.
>> Spells are revamps - Concentration now displays, Skills have a nicer look.
Stat block has several
>> improvements.
>>
>> Check it out and compare.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> On 6/5/2011 1:04 AM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
>>> On 04/06/2011 21:55, Eric C Smith wrote:
>>>> Update 6 was based on the 5.17.7 release set with only a small handfull of
additional edits. I'll take a look to see which ones they were and will post the
info this evening.
>>>>
>>>> Maredudd
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Ragabash Moon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So I am currently running PCGen alpha version 5.17.7... do I need this
update,
>>>>> or do I already have it?
>>>>>
>>> I'm running 5.17.6
>>>
>>> is it better to install OOC6 or 5.17.7 (ie how stable is 5.17.7?)
>>>
>> --
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>> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
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>>
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On 05/06/2011 17:35, Andrew wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
>
> On 6/5/2011 7:52 AM, Eric C Smith wrote:
>> Hi Folks!Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 5.17.7 is stable enough that I use it for every day gaming. Look at the
release notes, it says what
>>> all is included.
>>>
>>> It also includes several OS improvements..
>>>
>>> OOC is just pure data last I checked. I could be wrong, I didn't look at
what Eric threw in it.
>> I added the base.xml and fantasy_master OSes as well.
> Nice! Well, there ya go. A Few extra Pathfinder updates since the release AND
the nice revamped OS
> Sheets - PDF only though. For those using the htm, not much action going on.

so... best combination is?

5.17.7 executable + OOC6 data ? (to get those OS and Pathfinder
updates...)???

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Hi,




On 6/5/2011 9:42 AM, Saxum Caribetum wrote:
> On 05/06/2011 17:35, Andrew wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/2011 7:52 AM, Eric C Smith wrote:
>>> Hi Folks!Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> 5.17.7 is stable enough that I use it for every day gaming. Look at the
release notes, it says what
>>>> all is included.
>>>>
>>>> It also includes several OS improvements..
>>>>
>>>> OOC is just pure data last I checked. I could be wrong, I didn't look at
what Eric threw in it.
>>> I added the base.xml and fantasy_master OSes as well.
>> Nice! Well, there ya go. A Few extra Pathfinder updates since the release AND
the nice revamped OS
>> Sheets - PDF only though. For those using the htm, not much action going on.
> so... best combination is?
>
> 5.17.7 executable + OOC6 data ? (to get those OS and Pathfinder
> updates...)???

The OOC has all that. What the 5.17.7 gives you, all the non-pathfinder fixes in
the data folders,
and any code base improvements.

So yeah, best combo is 5.17.7 + OOC6.

Cheers,
.

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> I don't know why the previous poster disagreed with Notepad++ - I find
> it useful for almost all plain-text purposes.

Well, as he wrote he's using vim at work extensively. I do, too, and I find
other editors quite difficult to handle -- no matter how good they are --
because they are so different from vim. And there's another point speaking
against notepad++: It only runs on windows (or maybe on emulated windows).

	 Susan

>
> Well, as he wrote he's using vim at work extensively. I do, too, and I find
> other editors quite difficult to handle -- no matter how good they are --
> because they are so different from vim. And there's another point speaking
> against notepad++: It only runs on windows (or maybe on emulated windows).


I'll try and start a .vimrc section in SVN for hackers that like to use vim.
The syntax highlighting needs work and we need mappings to easily work in
LST files and create a clean diff.


One of the problems with a lot of current commits is that the diff is very
large because of the scores of lines where only the whitespace has changed.
This makes merging very difficult and makes reviewing near-impossble.

Editing with vertical spacing creates very, very clean diffs and gives us a
proper reviewing view.

Thanks,

Henk


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One thing I do recommend, if you're using vim.  Set the tab stop to 6
characters.
Now you might think, "that's insane! tabs are eight characters wide da**it!"
and
mostly you'd be right.  However! all the other data peeps are using 6
character
tabs and if you arn't then you can't see how they've lined up the various
sections
of their LST files.

I used to think this didn't matter, then I'd open a LST file and think this
is a bit
of a mess.  Then I'd set the tab stop to six characters and suddenly it's
all
neat and lined up.
andrew
On 6 June 2011 09:04, Henk Slaaf <henk@...> wrote:

> >
> > Well, as he wrote he's using vim at work extensively. I do, too, and I
> find
> > other editors quite difficult to handle -- no matter how good they are --
> > because they are so different from vim. And there's another point
> speaking
> > against notepad++: It only runs on windows (or maybe on emulated
> windows).
>
>
> I'll try and start a .vimrc section in SVN for hackers that like to use
> vim.
> The syntax highlighting needs work and we need mappings to easily work in
> LST files and create a clean diff.
>
>
> One of the problems with a lot of current commits is that the diff is very
> large because of the scores of lines where only the whitespace has changed.
> This makes merging very difficult and makes reviewing near-impossble.
>
> Editing with vertical spacing creates very, very clean diffs and gives us a
> proper reviewing view.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Henk
>
>
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