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Re: [panzertruppe_game] Re: Cuttsthroats

They had a driver, a loader and the commander in the turret. The sight was in front of the driver, and he had a fancy electric steering rig to aim the gun with. That's why it took years to get the vehicle into production. You can't aim a gun with a manual transmission. I doubt the loader had any idea where the gun was pointing. They should have stuck in an extra man, and used limited traverse like most other sp guns, and left the turret off. The turret just made it impossible for the commander to actually command the vehicle. About what you would expect from an army that spent 50 years trying to replace the 1886 Lebel rifle. Proof that perfect is the enemy of good enough.
Doug

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Chris P. <cpagano@...> wrote:

From: Chris P. <cpagano@...>
Subject: [panzertruppe_game] Re: Cuttsthroats
To: panzertruppe_game@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:03 PM

That's interesting. I didn't realize that the 75mm on the Char B had no traverse. I'd be interested to see what the sight looked like.

I don't think that sponson MG's on the Stuart had a sight, the driver probably just aimed with the tracers, as with the bow MG on the Sherman. But that's not going to work with a 75. With the Stuart it was probably envisioned that the MG's would be fired on the move, similar to how a pilot of a fighter plane fires his MGs. In practice it was probably impossible to get the elevation right.

With the Char B I assume that the driver essentially switched from 'driver mode' to 'gunner mode' when the tank was stopped. Did the gunner (i.e. not the driver) control the elevation?

-Chris P.

--- In panzertruppe_ game@yahoogroups .com, "A. J. Ralston" <nordland11@ ...> wrote:
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> Chris,
> The 75mm gun mounted in the hull of the French Char B series was both aimed and fired by its driver. Thankfully he didn't have to load the weapon though. Still that is an overload for just one person. In one of my books I'm sure I have the targetting sight that the driver used. Trouble is I have over 2,500 research books, (when we moved out into the Aussie Outback I had 300+ stolen too). If I ever find it, I'll attempt to post it here, but I wouldn't hold my breathe.
>
> Ashley (Snoopy - T.o.E.'s moderator)
>



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Chris, The 75mm gun mounted in the hull of the French Char B series was both aimed and fired by its driver. Thankfully he didn't have to load the weapon...
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That's interesting. I didn't realize that the 75mm on the Char B had no traverse. I'd be interested to see what the sight looked like. I don't think that...
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They had a driver, a loader and the commander in the turret. The sight was in front of the driver, and he had a fancy electric steering rig to aim the gun...
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I just uploaded two figures that Doug sent in. Both show the instrument panel that the driver used to lay the 75mm. The caption for one of them states that the...
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