We are looking for individuals who would be interested in
creating/maintaining a page(s) on our server dedicated to a
particular gaming venue.  We are a new site that is dedicated to
becoming the foremost gaming sites on the web. We want to present
this opportunity to as many fellow gamers as possible.  We would like
to have very knowledgeable people maintaining the information on
these pages.  For the most part, you would control the content and
layout of your page(s).  If you wish, you can have your name right on
the page letting everyone know that it is you bringing them all that
info.  We are gamers ourselves, but obviosly due to the many games
that are out there, we would just not have anywhere near enough time
to keep things up to date.  We are willing to allow a page or pages
for just about any gaming system or particular type of a gaming
system.  The object is to have a site where any gamer can begin
his/her search for info, links, downloads etc. The site will soon be
incorporating discussion forums.  If interested, please reply to
greg@...  Thank You.

???

    A.D.



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if there is anyone out there still, does anybody have a clue as to how I could find some of the old files from the Great Minds website?

On-Board Navigation System (* Correspondance, * Forces; or **
Correspondance, ** Forces for doors; ** Correspondance, Life ****, etc.)

Many of the newest cars contain on-board navigation systems, or even in
some cases a system that allows owners to be connected to a live operator
for navigation aid or to unlock the doors of their car. The New World
Order has devised this rote to also take advantage of these systems, by
accessing the devices to pinpoint the location of any vehicle so equipped.

They can easily open doors, and could even potentially, using additional
experimental technologies or orbital lasers, directly harm or aid the
occupants.

Technomancers simply connect computers to the on-board technology servers
and access speed, location, and directional information in a moment.

[ The first effect allows Technomancer's to locate a item's speed,
direction, with an exactness based on the number of successes made. Once
initial success on this roll occurs, further Correspondance effects should
be at a difficulty of that of a familiar object (again, depending on the
number of successes).]

The second effect allows the Technocrat to lock, or unlock the doors. She
can also access similar simple systems such as the headlights, or radio.
With enough successes and enough Spheres, the possibilities are limited
only by the Technoracy's limit on vulgarity. ]

Possible uses in campaign: PCs steal a brand-new rental car, not realizing
it contains 'On-Star' technology...

(I based this mostly on 2nd ed. Spheres, corrections & comments welcome)

Greetings,

This past evening (and without bothering to notify group
administrators), eGroups became Yahoo! Groups.  This won't
have an effect on where you need to E-mail (you can still
address @egroups.com, as you can see above), but in order
to use any of the other facilities that eGroups used to
have, you'll need to 'convert' your account.

There is a link to the wizard used to do this at
www.egroups.com, and it's pretty easy - you just have to
know your E-mail address, eGroups password, Yahoo! ID (or
create one) and password.

Joel Fischoff

P.S. Who is waiting to see what happens with regards to
advertising and the like on the lists.

I have to agree with Owen, the Caine concept is an "in-game" thing.
While I haven't looked lately for clues, I don't recall anything that
specifically points out where he is or even confirms his existence.

The storyteller of one chronicle I played had gifted a Malkavian with
a drop of  Caine's vitae that was venturing through our WoD on its
own. It came to him in the form of a tooth/fang (gory description of
the tooth replacing one of the Malkavian's own was a fascination all
on it's own) and slowly by slowly Caine's tooth/vitae was sabotaging
all of the Malk's independent thought and action. Of course no one
was aware of what was happening at first...

In my own chronicle, we have left the concept of Caine lie mostly
dormant, though the Ventrue & Toreadors (and the few Brujah) who can
recite their lineages invariably do so with Caine as first
progenitor.

thanx

-joseph

ps-if you ever have a question just write



--- Owen Winkler <ringmaster@...>
wrote:
> > ok i have a quick question. i started out with
> LARPing about 1 & 1/2
> > years ago. in that time i've learned alot. i've
> read most of the
> > books, went to probably over 100 LARPs and for the
> most part know the
> > history of the clans and such. well i've been
> trying to find WW
> > material about where Caine is suppose to be. does
> anyone know? is he
> > dead? is he in protean? umbra? torpor? well if
> anyone knows please
> > write me at sebastian589@..., with Caine
> as the subject,
> > thanx.
>
> There are many theories about Caine, but you're
> thinking of this in too
> absolute a mindset.  It depends on the story in
> which you are playing
> whether Caine even exists - Not so much that he's
> now dead, but whether he
> ever really existed in the first place.
>
> If your character is convinced that he does and the
> storyteller is prone to
> letting you search him out, then you can do that
> *in-game*.  I could be
> terribly terribly wrong, but I don't think any
> sourcebooks say "Caine spoke
> with [person still alive]", let alone "Caine was
> last seen [here]".  I think
> you'll have a hard time researching this out of
> game.
>
> Owen
>


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> ok i have a quick question. i started out with LARPing about 1 & 1/2
> years ago. in that time i've learned alot. i've read most of the
> books, went to probably over 100 LARPs and for the most part know the
> history of the clans and such. well i've been trying to find WW
> material about where Caine is suppose to be. does anyone know? is he
> dead? is he in protean? umbra? torpor? well if anyone knows please
> write me at sebastian589@..., with Caine as the subject,
> thanx.

There are many theories about Caine, but you're thinking of this in too
absolute a mindset.  It depends on the story in which you are playing
whether Caine even exists - Not so much that he's now dead, but whether he
ever really existed in the first place.

If your character is convinced that he does and the storyteller is prone to
letting you search him out, then you can do that *in-game*.  I could be
terribly terribly wrong, but I don't think any sourcebooks say "Caine spoke
with [person still alive]", let alone "Caine was last seen [here]".  I think
you'll have a hard time researching this out of game.

Owen

ok i have a quick question. i started out with LARPing about 1 & 1/2
years ago. in that time i've learned alot. i've read most of the
books, went to probably over 100 LARPs and for the most part know the
history of the clans and such. well i've been trying to find WW
material about where Caine is suppose to be. does anyone know? is he
dead? is he in protean? umbra? torpor? well if anyone knows please
write me at sebastian589@..., with Caine as the subject,
thanx.


-joseph

On 9 Jan 01, at 13:50, Owen Winkler wrote:

> --- In minds@egroups.com, "Arjen Lissenberg" <a.lissenberg@v...>
> wrote:
> > On 9 Jan 01, at 4:39, Owen Winkler wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ALSO - I'm interested in anyone's ideas on how to store NPC stats
> > > during a game.
>
> > With
> > most new printers you have the option to print 4 pages on one
> > paper.
>
> That's a pretty handy tip.  I hadn't thought of that.  I wonder if
> this Lexmark can do that...
>
> How about that?  If you print from Acrobat, you can print to fit the
> page size.  If you set the page size to "3x5 index card", it'll dump
> the sheet right onto an index card.
>
> So I guess I'm going to have to get a few blank index cards, eh? :)
>
> Something that I thought I might like to do is create a web page that
> prints out index card-sized crib notes for NPCs (without having to
> adjust printer settings, or squint at the little type).  Is all of
> the information on a sheet essential?
>
> Owen
>
No it's not essential, but these spaces can be used for additional
information so you don't have to write it on the back, also these
small sheets can be used to keep track of the PC's or convert
NPC's to PC's (for "guest players") and keep track of NPC's health
and having the Humanity and stuf like courage, Nature in easy
format in front of you is a big help in playing the Character of the
NPC consistently.
Arjen


Drs. A.Lissenberg
Afdeling Virologie
Hoofdafdeling Infectieziekten en Immunologie

A.Lissenberg, PHD student
Virology Division
Department of Infectious Diseases and Immunology

--- In minds@egroups.com, "Arjen Lissenberg" <a.lissenberg@v...>
wrote:
> On 9 Jan 01, at 4:39, Owen Winkler wrote:
>
> >
> > ALSO - I'm interested in anyone's ideas on how to store NPC stats
> > during a game.

> With
> most new printers you have the option to print 4 pages on one
> paper.

That's a pretty handy tip.  I hadn't thought of that.  I wonder if
this Lexmark can do that...

How about that?  If you print from Acrobat, you can print to fit the
page size.  If you set the page size to "3x5 index card", it'll dump
the sheet right onto an index card.

So I guess I'm going to have to get a few blank index cards, eh? :)

Something that I thought I might like to do is create a web page that
prints out index card-sized crib notes for NPCs (without having to
adjust printer settings, or squint at the little type).  Is all of
the information on a sheet essential?

Owen

On 9 Jan 01, at 4:39, Owen Winkler wrote:

>
> ALSO - I'm interested in anyone's ideas on how to store NPC stats
> during a game.  Sure, I mostly run games without written stats for
> useless NPCs, but if you do have an efficient way to store and recall
> this info during a game (say, on index cards), I want to know about
> it.  I'd be particularly interested not just in that you use index
> cards, but what information you find most valuable for that small
> real estate and what doesn't make the cut.
>
> Owen
>
I'll check the page later but for stat's of NPC's I have a tip. With
most new printers you have the option to print 4 pages on one
paper. When you print the Adobe acrobat form of the one page
character sheet you get a nice small character sheet (1/4 of a
normall sheet) and the resolution is quite good. You can fill in the
apropriate dots (I find that when making stat's for NPC's that
putting down dots is quicker and less hard that writing stats) and
you can use the backside for the more character info or, if you can
write small enough, the frontside. One thing however, when trying
this don't try to print the one page sheet 4 times at the 4 pages on
one paper mode, this will give you four pages with each one small
sheet.

Cheers, Arjen
Drs. A.Lissenberg
Afdeling Virologie
Hoofdafdeling Infectieziekten en Immunologie

A.Lissenberg, PHD student
Virology Division
Department of Infectious Diseases and Immunology

I've been building a web application that helps generate written
character backgrounds with minimal effort (on the visitor's part,
anyway).

If you are still interested in Great Minds and/or White Wolf
roleplaying, please visit my site to check it out.  I would
appreciate any comments you have on my preliminary design.

The direct address to the background generator is this:

http://www.rpgwire.com/characters/backgrounds

Please note that you should use IE5 to view this page.  It works in
Opera 5, so it will probably work in anything, but I don't even
bother to test lousy old Netscape these days.

If after you have tried it you have some suggetions on some
different/additional paths to take (you'll know what I mean when you
try it), please let me know.  It's possible that members of this list
might like to hear suggestions on creating character backgrounds, in
general.

ALSO - I'm interested in anyone's ideas on how to store NPC stats
during a game.  Sure, I mostly run games without written stats for
useless NPCs, but if you do have an efficient way to store and recall
this info during a game (say, on index cards), I want to know about
it.  I'd be particularly interested not just in that you use index
cards, but what information you find most valuable for that small
real estate and what doesn't make the cut.

Owen

--- In minds@egroups.com, cipher@t... wrote:
> hello there ww ppl... merry christmas to all of you and happy new
> year.. may the new year bring many dot's to your characters...
>
  And Happy Holidays to you and yours! Here's hoping all the Holiday
gaming sessions were suspenseful and satisfying. Drive carefully on
New Year's Eve!
   Kitty

hello there ww ppl... merry christmas to all of you and happy new
year.. may the new year bring many dot's to your characters... have
fun and take care...

Cipher

Enter your vote today!  Check out the new poll for the minds
group:


What WoD game resources do you expect
to get from this eGroup?

   o Adaptable Stories for use with my own group.
   o Pre-made NPCs (TV characters etc)
   o New Disciplines/Gifts/Rotes/Arts/Arcanoi
   o Fresh Ideas for Harrowings/Epiphanies/Paradox flaws...
   o Novel "stuff" with stats & backgrounds.
   o Advice & ideas  from other Storytellers with challenges from my own game


To vote, please visit the following web page:

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not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the eGroups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

ehy dude about the game. it might be interesting wih a completley new
approach to allien life. a semi transient being that can sub divide according
tothe ammount of psy stollen. (it makes duplicaits if it eats psy and stores
it. it may be eaten through actuall indigestion or through an amount of
contact.)

hey I know this a vampire great minds project but...
Anyways I have this idea for trinity where the players play
aliens on a planet that serves
a UFO graveyard.  Humans have landed on this planet however
and have started to terraform.  As Aliens they must eat(or
destroy) the terraformers.  Anyways what I need to do is
compile a list of alien powers or types of aliens.  As far
as type os Alien what I have so far is  Greys, Greens, Bugs,
Robots(cyborgs included) and Lovecraftian. If any of you
guys can help with this that would be great!!!!

thanks,

Andy(Werborg)

It seems to me that everybody's dealing with a lot of confusion and
misunderstanding of what they are.  I'm sure any look through Oriental
mythology will give you plenty of possible misconceptions, up to and
including the hunters thinking themselves new kitsune or gaki or whatever.  I
would think that there would be quite a few more Visionaries and those of
high Vision and still more Mercy than Zeal.

Tristissima

im running a demon hunter x cronicle coenciding with the apocalyps, i wanted
any and all tips on how to make this as interesting as possible because i
havent found a single book on how the orient is dealing with the end of the
world

Because one or two did volunteer to move forward with the list,
	 I will not go forward with my plans to shut the list down.  Instead,
	 I've transferred ownership of the list, and withdrawn as moderator.
	 I'm sure the new moderators will work it out amongst themselves, and
	 move forward with more enthusiasm than I had.

	 --jason




--
Jason W. Tice                       "Lay down your arms, Lay down your spear"
jait@...        The Chiefs eyes were sad, but showed no sign of fear.
ICQ: 11952306      "Oh, my children, dry your eyes. It is a good day to die."
http://www.bigfoot.com/~jait     -- Robbie Robertson, It is a good day to die

--- Joel Fischoff <petrukio@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Jason W. Tice wrote:
> >Okay, since noone's taken me up on my request to
> shift moderatorship
> >of this list, and since we've really not seen any
> major activity
> >recently, I am shutting down the list.
>
> If you just need someone to take over, I can do it.
> I already
> moderate two lists on eGroups anyway.  I don't know
> if I'd be able to
> manage the WWW site, but  managing subscribers and
> the like would be
> fairly easy.

Well, there has not been much activity to be sure.
Maybe you all should actively canvas the internet for
other subscribers? There are a lot of people who game
through the internet, so maybe those are the people
you should be trying to play to?

Mark A. D.
aka demonsreiche


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--- In minds@egroups.com, Joel Fischoff <petrukio@e...> wrote:
> If you just need someone to take over, I can do it.  I already
> moderate two lists on eGroups anyway.  I don't know if I'd be able
to
> manage the WWW site, but  managing subscribers and the like would be
> fairly easy.
>
I can manage the web site if you Joel can take this list. Just let me
know.
   Kitty

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Jason W. Tice wrote:
>Okay, since noone's taken me up on my request to shift moderatorship
>of this list, and since we've really not seen any major activity
>recently, I am shutting down the list.

If you just need someone to take over, I can do it.  I already
moderate two lists on eGroups anyway.  I don't know if I'd be able to
manage the WWW site, but  managing subscribers and the like would be
fairly easy.

Joel

Okay, since noone's taken me up on my request to shift moderatorship
of this list, and since we've really not seen any major activity
recently, I am shutting down the list.

In truth, I took it over when it was well into its' death throes
on Netcom.  But, now I've had a few life changes, and just can't devote
the time and effort to get it up and going again, as I was working towards.

You need do nothing--when I shut down the list, the list will just
disappear from your egroups listing.

It was almost an interesting ride.  But the Great Minds list has outlived
its' usefulness, I think, and it's time to put it to rest.

If you feel it's worth continuing, please email me via the list or
off-list at minds-owner@egroups.com before Midnight EST September 9th.
On that date, at that time, I will pull the plug on the Great Minds
List forever.

Jason W. Tice
List moderator, (son of) Great Minds List for a World of Darkness


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Jason W. Tice                       "Lay down your arms, Lay down your spear"
jait@...        The Chiefs eyes were sad, but showed no sign of fear.
ICQ: 11952306      "Oh, my children, dry your eyes. It is a good day to die."
http://www.bigfoot.com/~jait     -- Robbie Robertson, It is a good day to die

On 07/12/00 at  1:13pm, minds@egroups.com said:
=     The criticism was not so bad....and what happened to the group...i
= haven't gotten a message from anyone in forever.  Where is the group???
= where is everything going?  When are we gonna start the reposts??? and would
= someone mind ...if you are gonna post something for an archive...i have my
= own at http://soulhome.excelland.com and would be more than happy to start
= the posting now.  Lets get this group rolling shall we????

	 Plain and simple, I've dropped the ball.  Other things in my life
	 have taken priority.

	 I've still not heard from Gambit, other than the brief hello
	 a few months back.  So, for those who can, please start reposting
	 material.  I still have the posts from Kitty McDonald-Neal, and
	 will make them available shortly.

	 I've got one or two positions available now:

	 I need someone who's willing to take over the moderation of
	 the list.  I've got too many other things going on right now,
	 and while I would love to see the list continue, I am not in
	 a position to spend a lot of my time on it. Whoever takes
	 this on would be responsible for
		 * Defining what goes into the great mind site (is it
		   just another mirror of BJ Zanzibars or does it have a
		   particular theme?
		 * subscribing and unsubscribing people who can't do
		   it themselves

	 I also need someone to take on the coordination of the web archives.
	 As I see it, we need one web-site that isn't going to change
	 (or better, use a bigfoot address, so we can move the archives
	 if necessary, without changing the address).  Whoever takes this
	 on would be responsible for
		 * creating a web site for the archives
		 * Integrating the old source when it becomes available
		 * Coordinating the implementaiton of mirror sites


	 If you're interested in either--or both positions, please let
	 me know.  I'd like to make the changeover fairly quickly...

	 --Jason
--
Jason W. Tice                       Heart, I don't know what I need--let me
jait@...                 dance my disease--I'm just longing to heal.
ICQ: 11952306                              Come on, ride the medicine wheel!
http://www.bigfoot.com/~jait              -- Booth and the bad Angel "Heart"

Troy,
     The criticism was not so bad....and what happened to the group...i
haven't gotten a message from anyone in forever.  Where is the group???
where is everything going?  When are we gonna start the reposts??? and would
someone mind ...if you are gonna post something for an archive...i have my
own at http://soulhome.excelland.com and would be more than happy to start
the posting now.  Lets get this group rolling shall we????

.:-:SoulMaster:-:.
----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Mcintyre <n9607244@...>
To: <minds@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [minds] Re: Time for an Update?


>
>  Am I correct is believing that someone who cannot spell colour (or
> collar) is critisising another for a web site that is not all he hoped
> for???
>
>  Let it be known to you that a web site is a lot more work than a spell
> check !!!
>
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Owen Winkler wrote:
>
> > --- In minds@egroups.com, Averagejo10@a... wrote:
> > > IF YOUR TIRED OF THE SITE THEN LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO CAN JOY
> > FULLY TAKE IT
> > > AND FIX IT, IM NOT BEING INSULTING SAYING YOUR LAZY, BUT THE SITE
> > WHEN IT WAS
> > > AROUND IT HAD NO STYLE, IT LACKED COLLOR, YOU NEEDED BETTER
> > GRAPHICS, MORE
> > > STORIES AND DATA ON SHIT, SCRIPTUM OF THE GAMES AND EVEN BETTER A
> > REALLY
> > > LARGE DICTIONARY OF TERMS FROM MOST THE GAMES
> >
> > Well, I wasn't overly impressed with the layout of the old Great
> > Minds site, either, but it wasn't my doing, so don't blame me for it.
> >
> > I was talking about *my* site, which is not the GM site, and is
> > currently closed for renovation, so that I can remove the smatterings
> > of White Wolf from it.
> >
> > But your input is appreciated, and I'm sure it will be taken into
> > consideration when we're all deciding what to do about a new official
> > Great Minds web site.
> >
> > Owen
> > ringmaster@...
> > http://asymptomatic.midnightcircus.com
> >
> >
> >
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Am I correct is believing that someone who cannot spell colour (or
collar) is critisising another for a web site that is not all he hoped
for???

  Let it be known to you that a web site is a lot more work than a spell
check !!!

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Owen Winkler wrote:

> --- In minds@egroups.com, Averagejo10@a... wrote:
> > IF YOUR TIRED OF THE SITE THEN LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO CAN JOY
> FULLY TAKE IT
> > AND FIX IT, IM NOT BEING INSULTING SAYING YOUR LAZY, BUT THE SITE
> WHEN IT WAS
> > AROUND IT HAD NO STYLE, IT LACKED COLLOR, YOU NEEDED BETTER
> GRAPHICS, MORE
> > STORIES AND DATA ON SHIT, SCRIPTUM OF THE GAMES AND EVEN BETTER A
> REALLY
> > LARGE DICTIONARY OF TERMS FROM MOST THE GAMES
>
> Well, I wasn't overly impressed with the layout of the old Great
> Minds site, either, but it wasn't my doing, so don't blame me for it.
>
> I was talking about *my* site, which is not the GM site, and is
> currently closed for renovation, so that I can remove the smatterings
> of White Wolf from it.
>
> But your input is appreciated, and I'm sure it will be taken into
> consideration when we're all deciding what to do about a new official
> Great Minds web site.
>
> Owen
> ringmaster@...
> http://asymptomatic.midnightcircus.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bids starting at $7 for thousands of products - uBid.com
> http://click.egroups.com/1/3027/1/_/29370/_/959973486/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

Hello, This is my first experience with webtv, and the computerworld, so I hope
it goes o.k., I have had some frustrating timesattempting to figure it all out,
and I'm sure to have more before Ibecome compatent. My husband & I larp in Green
Bay,WI. in thechronicle "Where Shadows Dwell...". He is playing a gangrel, and
Iplay a Tremere. We enjoy it exteremly. We have two boys, ages 12 and10, the
oldest would like to larp as well, but our "elysium" has anage restriction of 16
and up.  I'm not sure what else to say, but Ihope to have many wonderful
conversations with all of you.  OH, mycharacter name is Raven Nevermoore,(No, I
am NOT a MalkavianNevermore, check the spelling please) aand my husband's
charactername is Angelus Diamond. Talk soon...... Raven

On Mon, 19 June 2000, "Richard Blossom" wrote:

>
> Also check out www.stas.net  !  It has unlimited Space and no banners!
>
> .:*SoulMaster*:.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Blossom <orojunky@...>
> To: <minds@egroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [minds] On selecting a new site...
>
>
> > Also I have found a site called Quik Pages....it offers 100 megs...a
> pop-up
> > banner not an inline banner like topcities....and it has FTP!!!!!!!! But
> the
> > FTP is a little weird to use!
> >
> > www.qwikpages.com
> >
> > Check that one out too!
> >
> > SoulMaster
> >
> > Heh...I have been doin a lot of research lookin for sites w/ large amounts
> > of space...i need 35 megs alone for my archive!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jason W. Tice <jait@...>
> > To: Great Minds @ Egroups <minds@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 6:43 PM
> > Subject: [minds] On selecting a new site...
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, after looking at a few different sites, I've centered on
> TopCities,
> > > I think.
> > >
> > > I'm waiting on a couple of answers from their staff regarding their
> > > terms of service--namely:
> > >
> > > 1) the transfer of membership in the event I want to give the
> > moderatorship
> > > of this over to someone else... I'd just subscribe as
> > minds-owner@egroups.com,
> > > but I want ot see if that'll go for them.
> > >
> > > 2) an apparent discrepency in their agreement regarding copyright and
> use
> > > of data.  One section says they will gain a limited license to use the
> > > data for backup pruposes only, while another section (indemnity section)
> > > says I/we agree not to ever brign suit against them for anything
> > regardless
> > > of whether they're responsible or not.  And I don't like that.  I want
> > > to make sure they are held to the previous clause in the agreement.
> > >
> > > I'm sure it's just the way it was presented, but once I get an answer
> from
> > > thenm, it will mean 50 megs of space for hte Great Minds archives, and I
> > > can start work putting some stuff up there.
> > >
> > > I haven't heard from Gambit recently (either publicly or privately)
> since
> > > his post.  I think we need to go forward without him, anyway.  When he's
> > > able, and gets his stuff together, we'll tap him, and get access to all
> > > the pages from the earlier archives.
> > >
> > > So, that's the status update so far...
> > >
> > > --jason
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason W. Tice                                  If at first you don't
> > succeed,
> > > jait@...                    take off to orbit and nuke it from
> > space.
> > > ICQ: 11952306                                 --
> > http://www.bigfoot.com/~jait
> > >
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