Help,
I am assisting in developing a exhibit about THE MALAY HOUSE and we
want to put a Congkak game inside the house. This is in Memphis,
Tennessee in the U.S.A. I was wondering if any one here could direct
me to a web site or an actually company address where i could buy a
Congkak game that they play in Malaysia.

I would greatly appreciate your help

My email is:

palazola@...

Thanks for your time


Andrew Palazola

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/06/2058208&mode=thread&tid=127

*Posted by michael <mailto:michael@@slashdot.org> on Friday September
06, @06:35PM*
*from the chess,-go-and-twister-still-not-solved dept.*

Gerard Jendras <mailto:gjendras168187MI@...> sent in a
submission about applying computing power to an ancient game. The game
of Awari <http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/%7Eawari/> has been solved: with
perfect play, the game always results in a draw
<http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=readRelease&Releaseid=10699>.
There is a Java applet to test your skills <http://awari.cs.vu.nl/> against.

At 14:15 12/09/02 +0200, Andy Rabagliati wrote:
>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/06/2058208&mode=thread&tid=127
>*Posted by michael <mailto:michael@@slashdot.org> on Friday September
>06, @06:35PM*
>*from the chess,-go-and-twister-still-not-solved dept.*
>Gerard Jendras <mailto:gjendras168187MI@...> sent in a
>submission about applying computing power to an ancient game. The game
>of Awari <http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/%7Eawari/> has been solved: with
>perfect play, the game always results in a draw
><http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=readRelease&Releaseid=106
99>.
>There is a Java applet to test your skills <http://awari.cs.vu.nl/> against.

	 This is an old new. They solved it last May.

	 And in fact they have not solved any real name. Computer
researchers defined their own rules, based on awari (warri, wari,
oware, ayo, awele, awale) and named them also awari. But it's
not a game people play.

	 It would be interesting if someone would solve any REAL awari
(the one played on competitions, or any other version played by
real players, not just computers).


	 Salut!

Viktor.

mailto:viktor@...
DRAC telematic                     http://www.drac.com

Dear All,

I have just finished 'Word Freak'  - a new book by Stefan Fatsis and I can
highly recommend it.

Fatsis took a year out from his work as a reporter at the New York Times,
and started to learn how to play competitive Scrabble.

His book relates his true life experiences amongst the Scrabble experts
(some with amazing personality disorders and interesting private habits!).

He also relates the history of Scrabble, and the international competition
scene (US words versus UK words).

Because he became an insider on the Scrabble circuit, his use of jargon and
turns of phrase are fascinating.  Almost made me want to become a Scrabbler
(if it weren't for the 120,000 word vocubulary required, complete with an
even larger list of anagrams that need to be learnt by rote!

I would recommend this book!

In some ways it reminds me another recent book about Postmodern trivial
pursuits, "Angry White Pyjamas" by Robert Twigger which relates Twigger's
experiences in Tokyo, leanring the martial art "Aikido" alongside the Riot
Police.


Yours,

Brian Wernham
International Omweso Society
London

web: www.omweso.org

email: omweso@...

Brian Wernham wrote:
> I have just finished 'Word Freak'  - a new book by Stefan Fatsis and I can
> highly recommend it.

I thought the book was quite interesting. The Scrabble players described
resemble obsessive players of Chess, Go, Othello etc. that I have met.

The book I'd really like to read is Brian's proposed book on Omweso - when
will we
get to see it?

I noticed that Michael Sandeman's interesting Omweso article in the
brilliant Abstract Games magazine
(http://www.abstractgamesmagazine.com/magazine.html) has been put on the web
at http://www.abstractgamesmagazine.com/omweso.html (thanks Kerry!). Now
that I have heard some ideas about Omweso first hand from Hudson Kyagaba
when
he visited the UK, and read the analysis of a top-level game in this
article, I would be really interested to see more information about Omweso
tactics and strategy.

Paul

Viktor Bautista i Roca wrote:

> Andy Rabagliati wrote:
> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/06/2058208&mode=thread&tid=127
> > (snip)
> > The game of Awari http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/%7Eawari/> has been solved
> > (snip).
> > There is a Java applet to test your skills <http://awari.cs.vu.nl/>
against.
> This is old news. They solved it last May.

It is true that it is old news, and there was a posting about it from Jeroen
Donkers in June on this list.

However, I hadn't seen the applet before. I think it is really interesting
to see this, a program which plays perfectly at a variation of Awari/Oware.
I'm very impressed that someone managed to do this.

It is fascinating to see the values of the moves right from move 1, with
sowing from the front hole being the only correct first move.

> And in fact they have not solved any real name. Computer
> researchers defined their own rules, based on awari (warri, wari,
> oware, ayo, awele, awale) and named them also awari. But it's
> not a game people play.

I was going to say that I don't suppose this would make much difference, as
the grand slam rule would not be invoked in most games. However, in the very
first game I played against the perfect version of the program, the position
became:

Computer (to play) [17 captures]
16 1 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 4
Paul [10 captures]

The computer moved the single seed. The reason is that when I sow the four
seeds, to give ...

17 0 1 1 1 1
0 0 0 0 0 0

... then according to their rules there is no move that gives me seeds so
all the remaining seeds go to the program. However, using the official
International Oware Society rules the program would now have to sow the
seventeen seeds without capturing, reaching ...

0 1 2 2 2 2
2 2 2 2 2 2

... when I would have a won position! I forced the computer to play on from
here, as I thought it would be a moral victory if I won from this position.
However, I lost anyway 22-26.

When I played again against a weaker version of the program, a similar thing
happened in the second game, so obviously this rule change does make a
significant difference.

> It would be interesting if someone would solve any REAL awari
> (the one played on competitions, or any other version played by
> real players, not just computers).

That is true. For a start, it would be interesting to see if it makes any
change to the conclusion that the game is a draw and the front hole is the
only correct first move. Also, I would be interested to see what effect it
would have on Oware tournament play - would humans become less interested in
playing a game solved by computers? Or would it become more interesting,
with the possibility of analysing thoroughly the human-player games
afterwards and spotting all the mistakes?

I heard that it took around 50 hours to generate the awari database of
positions and values, so perhaps it wouldn't be impossible for it to be
re-run for the official rules. I have written to John Romein about this, and
also to see where his rules came from. If I get some information from him,
then I will post it here.

Paul

Some time ago Eli raised this question about the rules.

> Actually what was asked in the first few messages was whether or not
> one can capture all of the seeds on the opponent's side.

I have now got some advice about this from the Oware Society.

Actually a similar situation occurred in a game I watched. The position,
with the upper player to move, was:
16 1 0 0 0 0
0 1 1 0 0 4

so when they played the 16, it became:
0 2 1 1 1 1
0 0 0 0 0 5

Now clearly it makes a big difference whether or not the lower player is
allowed to capture all the remaining seeds, or whether they have to play
their 5 without capturing. The Oware Society advised me that this is a case
where the capture is definitely not allowed.

I noticed that the Guillion brothers' Awale program also follows this rule,
and in the position
1 0 0 0 0 1
1 0 0 0 0 1
allows the first player to take 2 and then the second player has to play
without capturing (so the first player gets all 4 seeds).

So I hope this is the definitive answer (and my guess before was wrong) -
that you are not allowed to take the last seeds.

Paul

At 18:51 30/09/02 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
s and spotting all the mistakes?
>
>I heard that it took around 50 hours to generate the awari database of
>positions and values, so perhaps it wouldn't be impossible for it to be
>re-run for the official rules. I have written to John Romein about this, and
>also to see where his rules came from. If I get some information from him,
>then I will post it here.

	 Any answer?

	 I've receive this link, it can be interesting:

  http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/ICGA/journal/contents/content25-3.htm#AWARI IS
SOLVED

	 I've also posted more games from the tournament in Antigua:

  http://www.manqala.org/wiki/index.php/InternationalWarriFestival2002


	 Salut!

Viktor.

mailto:viktor@...
DRAC telematic                     http://www.drac.com

Viktor,

Thanks very much for adding your comments about the Warri festival in
Antigua. I didn't really know a lot about it, I was just passing on what I'd
heard from others. It's especially interesting to hear that there are even
stronger players than Ibrahim Abubakar in Ghana.

> >I heard that it took around 50 hours to generate the awari database of
> >positions and values, so perhaps it wouldn't be impossible for it to be
> >re-run for the official rules. I have written to John Romein about this,
and
> >also to see where his rules came from. If I get some information from
him,
> >then I will post it here.

> Any answer?

John Romein told me that he had got the rules he used from others
programming Awari, not from people involved with human play of the game.

He says there is some possibility of regenerating the Oracle with different
rules, if I can tell him definitively what the official rules should be. He
says that it may depend on how much difference it makes - if he only has to
run the endgame databases it should definitely be possible (I am dubious
about that and think the changes may affect even early moves in the game,
but who knows).

>  I've received this link, it can be interesting:
> http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/ICGA/journal/contents/content25-3.htm#AWARI IS
SOLVED

That is interesting. I'm not certain myself that different rule sets always
correspond to different names (awari/wari). The names warri, wari, awari,
owari, oware, awele etc. I have seen used in various places and I never
noticed that a particular name was always associated with the same set of
rules. Also I never heard of rule 9 before, but I haven't read the rules of
this game from Larry's book (because I thought I knew them already).

I think that the important thing if John is going to regenerate the
databases or part of them with different rules is to tell him clearly
exactly what changes he has to make. Unfortunately I don't have a written
copy of official Oware Society moves.

I believe there are essentially two things John needs to change in order to
conform to the international Oware Society rules:

(a) If there is a move which would normally result in the capture of all the
seeds on the opponents side, it should always be possible to make that move,
but the captures must not be taken.

(b) When there is a repeating position, the seeds need to be shared out
according to how many seeds tend to spend their time on whose side of the
board (I suggest this is done by taking an average over the repeating cycle
and rounding, as I can't think of another computerisable way).

Do you think this is correct - if so, have I expressed myself in an
unambiguous way; if not, what do I need to change?

I asked Glenda Trew (at the Oware Society) about this and she definitely
agrees on (a). I think (b) is more difficult as in human play there is not
an official rule about 3 times repeating positions but clearly for computer
play there needs to be some way that the program will accept that the game
is over.

  > I've also posted more games from the tournament in Antigua:
>  http://www.manqala.org/wiki/index.php/InternationalWarriFestival2002

Thanks very much!

Paul

Re: Paul Smith's comment on repeating positions <<When there is a repeating
position, the seeds need to be shared out
according to how many seeds tend to spend their time on whose side of the
board (I suggest this is done by taking an average over the repeating cycle
and rounding, as I can't think of another computerisable way).>>

I thought that the seeds were shared equally between the players?  But would
happen to an odd number of seeds?

In the Uganda YMCA no rule exists for a repeating position over several
moves (a bit like the lack of a 'super-ko' rule in Japanese go, I believe).
But I have never seen this happen.

There is a rule "Ekyeso kyolutentezi oba ekitayalika" = "Non stop/unending
move" for a single sowing by one player that seems to be indefinite.  But
this cannot occur in Oware since there is no relay sowing.  Nor in Bao, as
the rules of that game mean that any repeating move will quickly sweep all
seeds off the opponent's front row.

In Oware or Omweso, a position may be repeated where the same hole is about
to played out of again, then this is obviously repeating. It is
theoretically possible that a position will repeat, but with a different
hole about to played out of.  In Oware this could lead to a conclusion in
most cases (but maybe not all...)

The longest never ending move I found in Omweso was 198,288 moves without
any repitition of position.  s(see
www.omweso.org/board_games_in_academia_v_omweso.pdf p16).

I would also like to draw everyone's attention to Earl's general test for an
n-hole mancala board with relay sowing rules.

This is a DRAFT and UNPUBLISHED paper but I have made it available to you at
www.omweso.org/john_earl_draft_proof_2003-01-09.pdf   - comments welcome!
It also serves as a proof for Meyer's specific theorem for complex
never-ending moves in 16-hole Omweso (see
www.omweso.org/board_games_in_academia_v_omweso.pdf p20)

Yours,

Brian Wernham
International Omweso Society
London

web: www.omweso.org

email: omweso@...










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> Viktor,
>
> Thanks very much for adding your comments about the Warri festival in
> Antigua. I didn't really know a lot about it, I was just passing on what
I'd
> heard from others. It's especially interesting to hear that there are even
> stronger players than Ibrahim Abubakar in Ghana.
>
> > >I heard that it took around 50 hours to generate the awari database of
> > >positions and values, so perhaps it wouldn't be impossible for it to be
> > >re-run for the official rules. I have written to John Romein about
this,
> and
> > >also to see where his rules came from. If I get some information from
> him,
> > >then I will post it here.
>
> > Any answer?
>
> John Romein told me that he had got the rules he used from others
> programming Awari, not from people involved with human play of the game.
>
> He says there is some possibility of regenerating the Oracle with
different
> rules, if I can tell him definitively what the official rules should be.
He
> says that it may depend on how much difference it makes - if he only has
to
> run the endgame databases it should definitely be possible (I am dubious
> about that and think the changes may affect even early moves in the game,
> but who knows).
>
> >  I've received this link, it can be interesting:
> > http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/ICGA/journal/contents/content25-3.htm#AWARI IS
> SOLVED
>
> That is interesting. I'm not certain myself that different rule sets
always
> correspond to different names (awari/wari). The names warri, wari, awari,
> owari, oware, awele etc. I have seen used in various places and I never
> noticed that a particular name was always associated with the same set of
> rules. Also I never heard of rule 9 before, but I haven't read the rules
of
> this game from Larry's book (because I thought I knew them already).
>
> I think that the important thing if John is going to regenerate the
> databases or part of them with different rules is to tell him clearly
> exactly what changes he has to make. Unfortunately I don't have a written
> copy of official Oware Society moves.
>
> I believe there are essentially two things John needs to change in order
to
> conform to the international Oware Society rules:
>
> (a) If there is a move which would normally result in the capture of all
the
> seeds on the opponents side, it should always be possible to make that
move,
> but the captures must not be taken.
>
> (b) When there is a repeating position, the seeds need to be shared out
> according to how many seeds tend to spend their time on whose side of the
> board (I suggest this is done by taking an average over the repeating
cycle
> and rounding, as I can't think of another computerisable way).
>
> Do you think this is correct - if so, have I expressed myself in an
> unambiguous way; if not, what do I need to change?
>
> I asked Glenda Trew (at the Oware Society) about this and she definitely
> agrees on (a). I think (b) is more difficult as in human play there is not
> an official rule about 3 times repeating positions but clearly for
computer
> play there needs to be some way that the program will accept that the game
> is over.
>
>  > I've also posted more games from the tournament in Antigua:
> >  http://www.manqala.org/wiki/index.php/InternationalWarriFestival2002
>
> Thanks very much!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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>
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Whilst I was working in Nigeria in November/December, I found people playing
Owari under the name of Ayo in the West (Yorubaland).

But in Calabar, in the deep South-East, the Efik people play "Nsa-Isong",
which is described by Osunsanya (1998) as having 'chain movement' and
captures on four only.  He is obviously familiar with the rules of Ayo/Owari
since he makes unnecessary negative statement such as "a player does not
skip any hollow as he moves along ...if he returns to the hollow where he
took the pack a seed is dropped there just as with any other hollow."

Nsa-Isong are not mentioned by Russ (2000) pp59-64 under capture by fours,
and the Efik are not mentioned in the index (Ibid pp138-139), although Russ
does mention J'Erin, which Osunsanya describes as 'equivalent' to Nsa Isong
(Osunsanya p.iii).

Osunsanya's book is rare.  The British Library does not have a copy, neither
does SOAS.  The Univesity of Illinois seem to have a copy.

I have scanned a couple of pages onto the Omweso website (see
www.omweso.org/nsa_isong.htm) for the good of the gaming community, but
obviously I cannot break Osunsanya's copyright on the work and pirate any
more of it.  The scan includes the Efik rules for the game.

I bought all remaining copies at the Old Calabar museum - I have 3 spare
copies of the book which I can offer for sale in a good cause (and therefore
at an inflated price!) of Ł20 each (ouch!)  All the proceeds will go to
support African mancala players, either in Uganda or perhaps in Nigeria if I
return there.

If you wish to obtain copies of the book directly you could write to
Bonieprint Enterprises, Uyo, Nigeria, or perhaps the National Council for
Arts and Culture.

The reference for the book is:

Osunsanya, 'Dotun.  "The scientific basis of nsa-isong / as revealed to
'Dotun Osunsanta": International Association for the  Promotion of Okwe,
Nsa, Ayo ; Uyo [Nigeria] : distributed by the National Council for Arts and
Culture, 1998.  57 pages.  Paperback

His name is printed with the apostrophe thus: 'Dotun

Yours,

Brian Wernham
International Omweso Society
London

web: www.omweso.org

email: omweso@...

To: mancalagames@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:28 AM

Subject: [mancalagames] Never Ending moves...

Re: Paul Smith's comment on repeating positions <<When there is a repeating
position, the seeds need to be shared out
according to how many seeds tend to spend their time on whose side of the
board (I suggest this is done by taking an average over the repeating cycle
and rounding, as I can't think of another computerisable way).>>

I thought that the seeds were shared equally between the players?  But would
happen to an odd number of seeds?

Re: Relay sowing mancala games - never ending move proofs

John Earl has provided me with a revised proof for an n-hole mancala board,
with example calculations.
I have posted this new version to
www.omweso.org/john_earl_draft_proof_2003-01-12.pdf

He has also kindly provided a spreadsheet to help the less mathematically
inclined amongst us (i.e. me!) to try to understand his proof.  This can be
found at:
www.omweso.org/john_earl_draft_spreadsheet_2003-01-12.xls
The spreadsheet is over 3 pages - scroll down to see the full workings...

The above are DRAFT and UNPUBLISHED works - comments welcome!

Stephen Meyer's specific theorem for complex never-ending moves in 16-hole
Omweso is available at
www.omweso.org/board_games_in_academia_v_omweso.pdf
a non-mathematical description of these situations at page 15, an overview
of Meyer's proof at page 17 and the formal proof at page 20

Yours,

Brian Wernham
International Omweso Society
London

web: www.omweso.org

email: omweso@...

I am selling some rare books on Nigerian Mancala on eBay - proceeds to go to
the Omweso Society in Kampala to fund future events.

Click here to see the item:

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Brian Wernham
International Omweso Society
London

web: www.omweso.org

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----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Smith

To: Mancala Discussion Group

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:46 AM

Subject: [mancalagames] Mancala Games Tournaments in Cambridge UK

At this year's MSO Cambridge event (in Cambridge UK on 3-5 May), there will be tournaments of Oware, Omweso and Bao. If anyone from here is interested in coming, please get in touch with me at paul.smith25@....

 

I will be running the Bao tournament. The time isn't really fixed yet - it could be anytime during that weekend that is convenient for people who want to play. The more entries we can get the better. [If you haven't play Bao before, or don't know what it is, you can learn to play online at http://www.baogame.com where there are English and German explanations of the rules for the game (called "Bao Zanzibar" on this site), and you can play there against a program (or against a person if you are lucky enough to find someone else there at the same time). I don't know whose site it is, but I think it is a nice way to try out playing the game.].

 

Last year we also ran tournaments of these three games; it was fun to play in, not too serious - everyone is welcome, especially beginners. The full information about MSO Cambridge 2003 is at http://www.msocambridge.org.uk. There are tournaments of all sorts of games - from traditional ones like Chess, Shogi and Go to modern ones like Settlers of Catan and Puerto Rico. MSO Cambridge 2002 had over 450 players in total and this year we hope it will be even bigger.

 

Paul

Jeroen,

Thanks for your message.

> This is a very attractive implementation of Bao indeed,
> but the program does not use the correct rules concerning the house during
endelea.

I had forgotten about that problem. I presume that this program doesn't have
the takasia rule either (I never checked if it plays it or not).

It is a shame that this rule is not right. I still think that this site as
you say is very nice, and can be useful for people to get used to the
general mechanism of the game. Somehow I think that the feel of it is nice
for beginners.

> People that want to learn Bao can also use my program for free.

Thanks, I have tried it now. I like this program too. Of course it is best
to have a program that plays by the correct rules!

It seems to work fine in XP although you only mention it being tested in
other versions of Windows.

> I would really like to come to the MSO,
> but I am in the course of finishing my PhD thesis before the summer,
> so it will not be possible for me to participate.

That's a shame, it would have been nice to meet you. Perhaps next year? It
would be nice sometime if possible to be able to get together Dutch and UK
people interested in Bao and all play together.

> There are rumours that in November there will be a computer version of the
MSO in Graz (the computer olympiad) .
> If so, I will send my program to compete with other Bao programs.

That sounds interesting. Let me know if you hear more about it.

Paul

Omweso, Bao and Oware tournaments, 3-5 May 2003, Cambridge, UK
The event's web site is at www.msocambridge.org.uk

1. Do you want to practice these games and have a go at the tournament?
Please contact me and let me know.  We are organising practice sessions in
London and Cambridge before May.

2. The Kampala YMCA are trying to raise funds to send a team over.  They
will be keeping costs to a minimum (staying with friends and family).  I am
sponsering their transport to and from London each day.  However, the total
cost of air fares is likely to be USD 4,000.  We are looking for donations
and sponsorship as follows:
- Corporate sponsor USD1,000:  Your company's name used as a prefix for the
tournament title
- Individual sponsor USD 100: Your name used for the gold prize award
- Individual donations USD 20: You get a thank-you letter from Kampala YMCA

Yours,

Brian Wernham
International Omweso Society
London

web: www.omweso.org

email: omweso@...

It is unlikely that I will be in London but I much appreciate your efforts!
There is some concern that the bao rules in use are correct; I recommend
the programme by Jeroen Donkers. Then I have nothing to say if I do not
participate but since the rules are notoriously difficult, it may be worth
it to get it right the first time.

If you need help, let me know,
cheers,

Alex



Omweso, Bao and Oware tournaments, 3-5 May 2003, Cambridge, UK
>The event's web site is at www.msocambridge.org.uk
>
>1. Do you want to practice these games and have a go at the tournament?
>Please contact me and let me know.  We are organising practice sessions in
>London and Cambridge before May.
>
>2. The Kampala YMCA are trying to raise funds to send a team over.  They
>will be keeping costs to a minimum (staying with friends and family).  I am
>sponsering their transport to and from London each day.  However, the total
>cost of air fares is likely to be USD 4,000.  We are looking for donations
>and sponsorship as follows:
>- Corporate sponsor USD1,000:  Your company's name used as a prefix for the
>tournament title
>- Individual sponsor USD 100: Your name used for the gold prize award
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Does anyone know of any website where I can download a free version
of Bao?

Quoting "DakotaGizmo <dakotagizmo@...>" <dakotagizmo@...>:

> Does anyone know of any website where I can download a free version
> of Bao?
>

There are a few free Bao playing programs available. Try here:

http://www.scubaweb.co.uk/~bf/bao.html
http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/~donkers/games/Bao/
http://www.doe.carleton.ca/~pnyasulu/bawo.html (currently off-line)

There are also a few places where you can play on-line, such as:

http://www.bawo.org/
& http://www.baogame.com/game.html

Cheers,

Steve


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Does anyone have the resluts of the just completed awale tournament
at the Cannes International games festival.
--Best wishes--
Ed Byrd

At 02:31 19/03/03 -0000, ebyrd1 wrote:
>Does anyone have the resluts of the just completed awale tournament
>at the Cannes International games festival.

	 I'm very bad remembering names...

	 The first was called, I think, Fernando.
	 The second Victoriano Mendes
	 The third Víktor Bautista i Roca

	 The first two are French guys from Cape Verdian origin.
	 The third, Catalan.

	 I think that during this week I'll post some pictures on
http://manqala.org/


	 Salut!

Viktor.

mailto:viktor@...
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>      I'm very bad remembering names...

>      The third Víktor Bautista i Roca

I think this one at least is definitely right :-)

>       I think that during this week I'll post some pictures on
>       http://manqala.org/

Nice pictures, thanks.

I hope I will one year get to Cannes. About how many people play in the
Awale tournament?

Paul

It's now only a couple of weeks until MSO Cambridge 2003. This event is at
Parkside School, Cambridge, UK on 3/4/5 May.

As with last year, there are tournaments of Oware, Omweso and Bao. This year
we will have a Junior Oware tournament too if there is enough interest. And
there will be some teaching sessions and the chance to play casual games.
Also there will be some mancala boards for sale.

Last year the winners were Hudson Kyagaba (Omweso), Dan Brockington (Bao)
and Xavier Blanvillain (Oware). Hudson is a top Omweso player from Uganda,
Dan has played Bao in Tanzania and the Oware tournament featured some of the
strongest UK players. However, there were also novice players in all the
events.

The MSO Cambridge website (http://www.msocambridge.org.uk) has details of
these and all the other MSO Cambridge 2003 events (around 30 different board
and card games). There is an online entry form on the site; also it is
possible to enter tournaments by e-mail to me.

I don't know of any other event where you have the chance to play Oware,
Omweso and Bao all in the same weekend!

Everyone is welcome to come; if any here are within reasonable travelling
distance of the event it would be nice to meet you.

Paul