--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, "jak267" <jkantor@...> wrote:

> > If you wait until your happy with how the code looks before you
> > publish, you'll never get there. You'll spend so much time on
> > refactoring and cleanup, producing no new features (although
> > possibly fixing some bugs), you'll likely to get discouraged with
> > the effort.
>
> You must work for Microsoft.

Is that supposed to be an insult?

> After, all, we the world doesn't need reliable, maintainable code -
> just  lots of new releases, one right after another, which often
> introduce as many new bugs as they fix.

Is that sarcasm or a political statement?

I'm not really sure what your point is. Is it that the documentation
that I recommended doesn't lead to reliable and maintainable code? Do
you think that ONE person trying to refactor code until they are happy
with the result is more EFFICIENT than having multiple people work
towards the same, documented goal?

Dale

> If you wait until your happy with how the code looks before you
> publish, you'll never get there. You'll spend so much time on
> refactoring and cleanup, producing no new features (although possibly
> fixing some bugs), you'll likely to get discouraged with the effort.

You must work for Microsoft.

After, all, we the world doesn't need reliable, maintainable code -
just  lots of new releases, one right after another, which often
introduce as many new bugs as they fix.

just wondering if anyone plays Warmaster and happened to create a
scenario file for it...

--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, miltonsoong@... wrote:
>
> My thought exactly. I need to clean up the code before it's even
> ready for open source (sloppy code would be quite embarrassing if
it
> ever makes it out to the public :-))

Ummmm. Clean up sloppy code to make it "ready for open source"? I've
worked on two "niche" open source projects and I can tell you,
products that have been out and about for years, still have, and will
likely always have, sloppy (but working) code.

Your time would be better spent developing:

* Task lists
* Architecture diagrams and code walkthroughs
* Coding style you want to see
* Creating teams to divide the tasks

THAT's what most open source projects desperately need.

If you wait until your happy with how the code looks before you
publish, you'll never get there. You'll spend so much time on
refactoring and cleanup, producing no new features (although possibly
fixing some bugs), you'll likely to get discouraged with the effort.

Dale

It's not really a rival, just a different approach. A 3D app requires
a dedicated client - not to mention you will need 3D graphics to use
with it.

As for open source, I think you can have it both ways. If you open it
up, you should get a lot of help and it might also encourage alternate
versions. But there is still opportunity to take an open source
platform and make money from it (as with all the Linus packages out
there) by adding specific enhancements and add-ons(in this case,
packaging it with graphics, etc.).

I'd be very interested in that!
Harry

On Feb 3, 2007, at 12:51 PM, miltonsoong@... wrote:

> Funny you mentioned that. Since I am severly time crunched now, I
> am considering making it open source if there are demand for that...

----- Original Message -----

From: Angus Looney

To: littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:27 PM

Subject: Re: [littlecyberwars] Re: rival product [VirtualTabletop]

I spotted the Space Marine models/figures in the screenshot on the site, thast got my 10 year old excited. Are these part of the planned release?

On 2/3/07, miltonsoong@sbcglobal.net <miltonsoong@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

Funny you mentioned that. Since I am severly time crunched now, I am considering making it open source if there are demand for that...

----- Original Message ----
From: Dale <code_ronin@yahoo.com >
To: littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 9:34:49 AM
Subject: [littlecyberwars] Re: rival product [VirtualTabletop]

--- In littlecyberwars@ yahoogroups. com, "msoong" <miltonsoong@ ...>
wrote:
>
> http://c7games. com/VirtualTable topIndex. htm
>
> This is in effect a 3D version of LCW, take a look...
>
> Milton

It looks nice, but I like the top-down view, plus the additional view
when the unit is selected, as you have it now.

Now just for a few bug fixes and additional features... :)

I assume this is not open source because you intend to commericialize
the product at some point?

Dale

 

--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, "msoong" <miltonsoong@...>
wrote:
>
> http://c7games.com/VirtualTabletopIndex.htm
>
> This is in effect a 3D version of LCW, take a look...
>
> Milton

It looks nice, but I like the top-down view, plus the additional view
when the unit is selected, as you have it now.

Now just for a few bug fixes and additional features... :)

I assume this is not open source because you intend to commericialize
the product at some point?

Dale

----- Original Message -----

From: angus looney

To: littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:57 AM

Subject: [littlecyberwars] Re: rival product [VirtualTabletop]

--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, "msoong" <miltonsoong@...>
wrote:
>
> http://c7games.com/VirtualTabletopIndex.htm
>
> This is in effect a 3D version of LCW, take a look...

Looks pretty good!

--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, "msoong" <miltonsoong@...>
wrote:
>
> http://c7games.com/VirtualTabletopIndex.htm
>
> This is in effect a 3D version of LCW, take a look...

Looks pretty good!

http://c7games.com/VirtualTabletopIndex.htm

This is in effect a 3D version of LCW, take a look...

Milton

Is there a simple way to extract the image files from the scenario
files? I was hoping to reuse some elements from the scenarios provided.

Simply doing a "Save As" isn't enough as I want to combine elements
from several scenarios. Is there maybe a utility somewhere?

Thanks,

Dale

--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, miltonsoong@... wrote:
>
> In my testing it seems that all wheeling should be positive. Let me
> check

Let me know if I need to send some information regarding my setup, so
we can determine if this is environment-specific. I can send screen
shots of the command window showing the left wheel is negative. Also,
the calculation in the "total distance moved" uses the negative values.

Moving backwards or wheeling backwards (either left or right) does not
produce negative movement.

By the way, how do you "undo" a move? If you accidentally move, say
6.1", then move back 0.1", the total distance moved shows 6.2".

Thanks,

Dale

--- In littlecyberwars@yahoogroups.com, miltonsoong@... wrote:
>
> hmmm, if you clear, save then reload the scenario file it should
work. Let me look into how easy it is to clear the cache...
>
> Milton

Ummmm, but if I clear then save, won't I be saving a blank scenario
file?

I'll make a copy of the file and give it a try when I get home.

It would be nice if there were a button on the Map tab that says "Clear
Cache" or some such, which would result in all the thumbnails being
removed from that list, then re-reading the files from the Terrain tab,
re-populating the list.

Thanks,

Dale

When the unit wheels to the left, it counts as negative movement. This
is a bug, right? Shouldn't all wheels, whether left or right, forward
or backwards, count as positive movement? (I noticed that it does for
moving backwards.)

I suggest that there be some way to activate a choice where all
movement at that point counts using some multiple.

For example: A unit move 2" forward to the edge of a woods. The player
then activates a "moves slower" option (or whatever you want to name
it), LCW prompts for the multiplier and the player enters "2", then the
unit is moved into the woods. Each 1" moved in the woods counts as 2"
of distance moved.

This feature would allow the player to turn on and off movement
multipliers and have the distance register properly without the player
having to keep all of the calculations in their head.

Thanks,

Dale

Is there some way to clean up the scenario files in the module builder?
I have added certain JPEGs in the terrain tab, removed them, updated
the JPEG, then added them again, but I find the old version still
cached. If I remove a JPEG, it still appears for selection in the Map
tab.

Is there some way to clear out the cache so that the builder re-reads
the list of files in the Terrain tab and only shows those images in the
Map tab?

Thanks,

Dale

Here's an interesting story that may be interesting to the LCW
community:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/375773/

A new web page for a company called paper armies.  Looks like they do
top down photos of historical armies, i.e. print and play.  About $10 a
set.  - A