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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:37:31PM -0000, pearofbabylon wrote:
> So how far have you gotten in this game Robin? I'm still
> struggling to get my characters past the 12th lvl hump.

I'm actually so bad at roguelikes that I wrote a wrapper script to
save scum for me.  My best is still level 15, but then I haven't
played in a bit.

-Robin

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--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, colinvdb <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey, I'm still around - who do you think keeps cleaning up this
> place..... lol
>
> OK in answer to your question I am 99% certain it only affects ranged
> attacks, however that does include things like wands so be
careful.....
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> C.
>

Actually http://collectivecomputing.com/~evilupine/crawl/artifacts.html
just answered my question, I think.  The ring of shadows isn't random,
here's it's description:
ring of Shadows - (Ring of Invisibility), black ring
+4 EV, life protection, see invis, -3 to hit, +10 stealth
The way it's written there it sounds like it affects both melee and
ranged attacks
thnx anyway all

Hey, I'm still around - who do you think keeps cleaning up this
place..... lol

OK in answer to your question I am 99% certain it only affects ranged
attacks, however that does include things like wands so be careful.....

Hope this helps.

C.

--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, pearofbabylon
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> does anyone know, when something says it affects your accuracy, does
> that include melee combat or only ranged attacks?
>

OMG = A actual post!

THUMP...

Sorry - no idea


      
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> On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:51:44PM -0000, pearofbabylon wrote:
> > does anyone know, when something says it affects your accuracy,
> > does that include melee combat or only ranged attacks?
>
> My god, an actual post.
>
> We may be the only ones left; it's been all spam here.
>
> And, unfortunately, I have no idea.  :(
>
> How did you get such a message?
>
> -Robin
>

Well, if I remember correctly I got a random ring (ring of the
Shadows, i think that's random) which gave me +4 evasion, -3
accuracy, see invisible, life protection, and stealth.  I was playing
a Dwarf Healer, fighter-style, so I ended up stowing it and wearing
other stuff.  If I'd been sure that -3 accuracy affects only ranged
attacks I might have worn it.  With a little experimentation I
figured that accuracy does affect melee fighting but I'm still not
100% certain.  Rings of slaying specify that they affect only melee
attacks, but I can't recall seeing anything that says it specifically
affects ranged attacks. Amulets of innaccuracy? That question never
occured to me because there'd be no reason to wear one in the first
place.

So how far have you gotten in this game Robin? I'm still struggling
to get my characters past the 12th lvl hump.
-Jesse

On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:51:44PM -0000, pearofbabylon wrote:
> does anyone know, when something says it affects your accuracy,
> does that include melee combat or only ranged attacks?

My god, an actual post.

We may be the only ones left; it's been all spam here.

And, unfortunately, I have no idea.  :(

How did you get such a message?

-Robin

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does anyone know, when something says it affects your accuracy, does
that include melee combat or only ranged attacks?

(I play with save scumming because I'm just not good enough to avoid
it).

So I get to dungeon level 10 and find a Silver Statue.  I'm a
Minotaur Monk.

Never seen one before, death rapidly ensues.

Reload, discover that no, it's not just me being bad at roguelikes,
it really *is* impossible for a level 10 Monk to beat one of these
things.

My question is, what is the appropriate way to deal with this when
you're *not* scumming?  i.e. what would you do if you saw a silver
statue and you were level 10?  Just run the hell away?

-Robin

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Been remiss as my job as moderator - all the cr*p now gone.....

Wont happen again - well until the next personal crisis that is ;-)

C.

--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <t_langerholc@...> wrote:

> My girlfriend has a flashy Apple laptop, and I decided
> to try to continue my addiction by getting the Mac OSX
> version.  So, I d/led it, clicked on the file - and nothing.
>  A quick window pops up (as if it's unzipping something)
> and then disappears, but nothing happens

I'm not sure which file you d/l'd from ftp.dungeoncrawl.org,
but any OS X version there is likely to be a bugfest, anyway.

Basically, the original core development team melted away
waiting for one of its members to commit what he had been
working on for ... well, a long, long time.

Your best bet is to hound the people @ Crawl Stone Soup:

http://crawl-ref.sourceforge.net/

I haven't bothered to play with it (too busy), but I would
guess you'd have to build from source or find someone
off r.g.r.m. who has bundled an OS X package.

I should really carve out some time to update dungeoncrawl.org.

-don

I'm a recent dungeon-crawl addict teaching English in Poland.  My
girlfriend has a flashy Apple laptop, and I decided to try to continue
my addiction by getting the Mac OSX version.  So, I d/led it, clicked
on the file - and nothing.  A quick window pops up (as if it's
unzipping something) and then disappears, but nothing happens, no new
directories are created, and no dungeon crawl!  Anyone have any
experience with this version?

-Tim

P.S. I can't seem to make any progress with any character other than a
Troll Berserker, unless I get crazy luck with weapons and armor.

I'm just not good enough at roguelikes to do well at them, nor am I
capable of remaining emotionally detached enough to deal well with
dying.

Is there a Diablo-like death[1] patch for Crawl?

-Robin
[1]: That is, death has consequences, but the consequences are not
debilitating.

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Just as a long time nethack player, just wanted to say that I am
really enjoying Crawl...

--- Dnah Freespirit <freesnot@...> wrote:

> Hey, Thanks to everyone who offered advice on the
> Orb of Fire
> question.  Now I just have to get that far again.
>
> I'm trying out the elves and I've gained the ability
> "Glamour"  but I
> can't seem to figure out what it actually does/is
> good for.  ???

You may be better off getting a better answer from
someone else, but iirc you can use 'a' to use your
glamour ability to paralyze all above-animal
intelligence creatures in sight; elves and orcs are
immune to it though, iirc.

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Hey, Thanks to everyone who offered advice on the Orb of Fire
question.  Now I just have to get that far again.

I'm trying out the elves and I've gained the ability "Glamour"  but I
can't seem to figure out what it actually does/is good for.  ???

-D'nah

--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, "Dnah Freespirit"
<freesnot@...> wrote:
>
> Alright already.. Is there any way to kill an Orb of Fire??
> Hints? Suggestions?
> -dnahvalkyrie
>

It seems that Silence works on orbs of fire, although this may be a
bug.
Other than that, your best defense is to have fire resistance.  An
amulet of mutation would also be nice to have, but you should worry
more about its fire attacks, which I'm pretty sure are the most
powerful attacks in the game.  (However, electric golems could kill
you faster with their multiple melee attacks.)
Orbs of fire move and attack at twice normal speed, so you'd need
Haste to run away from one.
It would be quite hard to get enough armor and/or evasion to help you
significantly.  And of course, a shield would not help at all.

Orbs of Fire have 20 AC and 20 evasion, so you need to hit very hard
and accurately to kill one.  They have 150 HP.
I suggest having 20-something in all skills relevant to the attack
you are using (except Spellcasting, which does not do much for your
spell power).
If using a weapon, use something with at least 15 base damage.
Preferably a vorpal weapon, which will do about 25% more damage.
If using a ranged weapon, use at least a +8,+8 bow (NOT a bow of fire
or frost) and have at least 28 strength, 27 Bows skill, and 13 in
Throwing.  Seriously, bows suck and the other ranged weapons are even
worse.
Fire, ice, electric, and poison spells will do no damage, except
hellfire (staff only), magma bolt, fire storm, ice bolt, ice storm,
and poison arrow.  Those will be partially resisted, of course, so
the only spells I'd really recommend are crystal spear and iron
bolt.  Definitely don't bother with magma bolt, ice bolt, or spells
lower than level 4.


I think I might as well say something about electric golems, too.
They have only 5 AC, and usually less HP, making them much easier to
kill than orbs of fire.
But, their shocking melee attacks make them insanely dangerous for
most characters.
If you don't have electricity resistance, having 20-something evasion
is the only thing that can save you.  Armor only helps if you also
have electricity resistance, because the "shock" part of the melee
attack is unaffected by armor and way more damage than the physical
part of the attack.

The latest patched binaries are available from
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/mazewest/

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--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, "briandmiller2002"
<briandmiller2002@y...> wrote:
>
> new member to this group. I have playing roguelike games since 1986.
> the new angband is getting boreing and am looking for a new game to
> play. Where can I find the downloadable binaries for this game. Would
> love to give it a try.
> Thanks
> B
>

new member to this group. I have playing roguelike games since 1986.
the new angband is getting boreing and am looking for a new game to
play. Where can I find the downloadable binaries for this game. Would
love to give it a try.
Thanks
B

Whatever you religious, ethical or moral position I still to wish you
all a happy Christmas and hope you have a great holiday season.

And here's to *LOT'S* of posts in the New Year....

Colin ;-)

--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, "galarus444"
<galarus444@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > When I don't have a god to sacrifice items to...
>
> Incidentally, how do you sacrifice items?
>
> - Galarus
>

drop them on an altar then pray (if you are a heathen godless dog then
this lets you join (you might not need to sacrifice to join)

  note -- your standing with you god will drop with time so keep
yourself in good standing

Also if you butcher corpses  after praying it devoses the corpse to
your god (no chunks), watch out though not all gods approve of this
kind of thing (ie the healer god)

Forgot to mention her mutations >_>;

Mind is acute(+13 int)
Your flesh is very heat resistant
You have a slow metabolism
You can spit poison
You can breath fire
You can sense your immediate surroundings
Your muscles are flexible but weak
You often lose your temper in combat(me=rageaholic)
You are partially covered in ridged grey scales
You are partially covered in metallic scales
You are partially covered in speckled scales

Some are "presents" from Xom. Others are from potions of mutation and
I nullified the bad effects with a few cure mutation potions. Lost my
ability to teleport and cold resistance though T_T Atleast I can still
spit poison and breath flames!

--- In linleysdungeoncrawl@yahoogroups.com, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@d...> wrote:
>
>
> Heh.  You're way ahead of me.  I've come to the conclusion lately
> that I'm So Bad at roguelikes that I should just hack a version of
> Crawl with proper game saves (i.e. no perma-death), because I'm just
> not good enough for the regular kind.
>
> -Robin

Made it down to lvl 18 last night on my human chaos knight. Xom is
being unnaturally nice to me >_> If you want an idea of a truely
strong character with NO magic learned(I.E. Untapped potential), I can
upload my chaos knight in zip format for you to look at and see what
kind of weapons I use. She's a wand whore though....carrying like 10-
12 wands and dont know what most of em do because I forget to zap em.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:35:33AM -0000, malinko576 wrote:
> Can't ever decide what magic I prefer but then again I've never
> made it past lvl 16 of the dungeon muchless finished the game.

Heh.  You're way ahead of me.  I've come to the conclusion lately
that I'm So Bad at roguelikes that I should just hack a version of
Crawl with proper game saves (i.e. no perma-death), because I'm just
not good enough for the regular kind.

-Robin

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I know there hasn't been much activity here this month but I found
this group here and decided what the hey, might as well try to spark
some interest here!

I've been playing Dungeon Crawl for bout a year now and have found
Draconian Monks to be my favored class...mutate claws and you can maul
stuff as well as punch and hit with a tail.

I've also grown fond of Elven Enchanters for some reason...Spriggan
assassins are wonderful fun too if you stay light and have many
potions of speed.

Chaos Knights who worship Xom are fickle fun depending on the gods
mood but I havn't recieved a nasty attack from Xom yet. Can't ever
decide what magic I prefer but then again I've never made it past lvl
16 of the dungeon muchless finished the game.

I patiently await a reply or a greeting of some sort. >_>;