No, you're right, clearly the Order is a gerontocracy. And my assertion that "in most houses, the senior magi become marginal" is ridiculous. So how about...
Vince Baker
VBAKER@...
Nov 1, 2000 4:05 pm
196
Isn't that what certamen is all about? Tremere got sick of being beaten on by Tytalus, so he came up with something he could win at? (Our House Tytalus holds...
Vince Baker
VBAKER@...
Nov 1, 2000 4:27 pm
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My friend Emily C. Boss [mailto:ecboss@...] says: I appreciate that these criticisms do have value. All of the houses have their drawbacks,...
Vince Baker
VBAKER@...
Nov 1, 2000 6:33 pm
198
Vince (VBAKER@...) said, "my friend Emily C. Boss [mailto:ecboss@...] UMass? Cool, I'll have to remember to invite you to one of my...
Genest, Jeremiah
jeremiah.genest@...
Nov 1, 2000 6:51 pm
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As Jeremiah said: "I still think that Tremere gets a bad rap because gamers are all a bunch of individualists at heart." Very true. My contention is that what...
Mathew Iskra
ISKRAM@...
Nov 1, 2000 7:06 pm
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... "Very true. My contention is that what little has been written on Tremere (the Vampire thing, Tremere taking over the Order, the Schism) puts them in a bad...
Jeremiah Genest
jgenest@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:01 pm
201
The only long-term Tremere I GM'd (am GMing) to is actually a Mercuric with two Flambeau Mercuric brothers. His ties to the ancient Mercuric magic is more than...
Mathew Iskra
ISKRAM@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:35 pm
202
Emily C. Boss [mailto:ecboss@...] says: Matthew wrote: Particulary,why are Tremere "Magi" allowed to join new covenants? Or move to different...
Vince Baker
VBAKER@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:08 pm
203
... wrote: (much snipped and then:) ... Sigil ... I agree whole-heartedly. How on earth do canon-AM players deal with the issue of a tremere sub-mage living...
ecboss@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:12 pm
204
Oh, now hey, that's interesting. Casting House Tremere as a house of kings and nobles, of honor and duty and chivalry and respect... Cool. That's a whole...
Vince Baker
VBAKER@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:14 pm
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Vince Baker [mailto:VBAKER@...] "How do people play out having Magi that can't vote in their new covenant. Do they? I outlined a compromise...
Genest, Jeremiah
jeremiah.genest@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:41 pm
206
Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the lexHermeticum group: What should be the next topic in hermetic law, to begin on 11/06/00. As always...
lexHermeticum@egroups...
Nov 1, 2000 10:02 pm
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Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the lexHermeticum group: What should be the next topic in hermetic society, to begin on 11/06/00. As always...
lexHermeticum@egroups...
Nov 1, 2000 10:03 pm
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The Tremere topic has been great, so hopefully my calling a new poll won't diminish that. I know my feverish mind has been going over these ideas a lot(I...
Jeremiah Genest
jgenest@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:05 pm
209
Heck, I'd love to spend the next 11 weeks discussing the next 11 houses. How do we suggest topics again? -Vincent ... From: Jeremiah Genest...
Vince Baker
VBAKER@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:09 pm
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... Mercuric with two Flambeau Mercuric brothers. His ties to the ancient Mercuric magic is more than his ties to his house. Matt, I think you've hit one of...
Jeremiah Genest
jgenest@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:10 pm
211
... houses. ... To suggest a topic you just need to write up a starting discussion and upload it in the files area to the right folder. The moderator will...
Jeremiah Genest
jgenest@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:18 pm
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Well, the Murcuric plot thread in my Hibernian saga (http://www.calweb.com/~byterbit/ars.html) was started when two characters were replaced. The player...
Mathew Iskra
ISKRAM@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:27 pm
213
... Exactly. But im wondering if, in the order, young magi see influent seniors and espescially Tremere as sinister as some of us (ArsM players) do. Everybody...
Hervé Le Saux
rvlesaux@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:44 pm
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... I don't think I've ever seen anything in canon that even hinted that Tremere couldn't vote in their covenant councils--the sigil is for vote at Tribunal,...
Scott David Orr
sdorr@...
Nov 2, 2000 12:34 am
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... The principle certainly works for fraternities and soldiers--havinag suffered makes you believe what you've obtained for the suffering is valuable, and...
Scott David Orr
sdorr@...
Nov 2, 2000 12:45 am
216
Herve wrote: I agree that when a young Tremere proudly go to his first Tribunal and then see there Bjornaer and even Ex-Misc. magi barely speaking latin but ...
Emily C. Boss
ecboss@...
Nov 2, 2000 2:04 pm
217
The No Sigil Flaw can be reworked to be expressed in the positive rather than the negative. Right now, the No Sigil Flaw is negative because success is...
Adam Bank
adambank@...
Nov 2, 2000 2:40 pm
218
I (of course) find this idea very interesting. I especially like it since it fits my kingship thoughts nicely. Each trust would have a vote on the electors. ...
Jeremiah Genest
jgenest@...
Nov 2, 2000 2:50 pm
219
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the lexHermeticum group. File :...
lexHermeticum@egroups...
Nov 2, 2000 4:56 pm
220
... So basically there will be one or more Tremere 'Trusts' in a Tribunal. Normally a filus is a junior member of his parens Trust. However, if he moves out of...
David Woods
david@...
Nov 2, 2000 5:09 pm
221
The best certamen system we've come up with is a diceless system, adapted from Andrew P. Smith's rules, which dispense with the dice altogether and introduce...
Jeremiah Genest
jgenest@...
Nov 2, 2000 6:03 pm
222
I also like this idea, for it allows my Tremere concept to "tough it alone" and keep his sigil. He loses the benifits of the trust and must go it alone, but he...
Mathew Iskra
ISKRAM@...
Nov 2, 2000 6:06 pm
223
Although I am unaware of the elements of trusteeship in Roman law, I know that trusts (under a different name, cest qui use I believe) existed in English...
Adam Bank
adambank@...
Nov 2, 2000 6:10 pm
224
Hm, I hadn't though of the Tough it Alone Tremere. Going it alone in a house full of trusts has built in disadvantages. We might want an extra incentive to...
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