Hello, everybody! This is my first posting on this list. ... way this alley leads down to the question: Do Hermetic parens abuse ... dirty ... In ancient...
... I never said rampant. My case was if the sexual abuse is more common within the OoH than in the rest of the Mythic society. The reason against this is; 1)...
... Remember though that a Hermetic parens is considered, socially, to be not an educator, but a _parent_. I think that makes it a different ball of wax. ...
Scott David Orr
sdorr@...
Jan 25, 2003 9:40 pm
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... Apprentices may not be full magi, but they're not considered "mortals"--they do, after all, have the Gift. ... Magi may have a right to kill apprentices...
Scott David Orr
sdorr@...
Jan 25, 2003 9:54 pm
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... True, but a parent that has no physical tie and is not adopting the "child" as an infant. ... Yes, but they have the right to kill their apprentice. This...
... I don't see that that matters. We're not talking about a stepchild or a foster child here--the closest analogy would be an adopted child, but in any case,...
... That is all Greek to me... ;-] Nils. -- E Pluribus Modem....
Nils Richter
anarion@...
Jan 27, 2003 2:06 pm
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... or a ... but in ... society as ... It would be about as socially unacceptable to sexually abuse your own child as much as your stepchild or foster child,...
... Actually, no--it wouldn't be acceptable, but stepparents and foster parents are not socially expected to treat stepchildren or foster children the way they...
... society is ... Indeed, an ... gauntlet. Hm, the naming of the apprentice after has passed his suggest that he is not truly a person until he becomes a...
... Aren't apprentices considered "property" until gauntlet? That is, they have no free will, their actions being the responsibility of the paren.. ... I'm...
... But boys weren't treated that way by _parents_. Calling them parents suggests that apprenticeship is viewed as childhood. ... Okay, but wouldn't the same...
Jus strictum and jus aequum in Hermetic law Derived from Roman law, this distinction indicates differences between two other types of rule. Rules of jus...
... parents ... But, as I suspected, checking OoH p. 124 "filius/filia" is used to desingnate once _former_ apprentice. Sorry for not checking this earlier. An...
At 07:32 PM 1/30/2003 +0000, Jeremiah Genest <jeremiahgenest@...> ... Viewing the Peripheral Code, it looks to me like just about everything is open to...
... But magi to cede their right to vote, and there is a tradition that magi can vote the sigils of other magi; quaesitores and Redcaps do so. There are also ...
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:57:10 -0000 From: "Jakob Ryngen <jakobryngen@...>" <jakobryngen@...> Subject: Re: Sexual Politics in the Order ...
... I was trying to be polite. It really defies common sense to assert that an apprentice is regarded as a child after the gauntlet, but not before, that, in...
... True; most rights can't be seized. Even the much hated Bonisagus Snatch is a "voluntary" easement of a right. Speaking of which, Jakob was asserting that ...
... that an ... before, that, ... her ... Do you say that Jonathan Tweet lacked common sence when he wrote that an apprentice is called child only after the...
... Yes, that has occured to me too. But what about a gifted lab assistant? A magus is probably forbidden to have that by the Periferal Code but how do you...
... I'm aware of no rulings; I assume that Gifted assistants are rare or nonexistant. Taking a child as just an assistant would be unrewarding; if a magus ...
... wrote:> I'm aware of no rulings; I assume that Gifted ... I am not sure. A Bonisagus may take your apprentice if he thinks he has a better use of him, but...
... You miss the point; if Magus A becomes aware that Magus B has an assistant who is Gifted, Magus A can take that Gifted person as his apprentice. Since...
... I certainly must have missed something... where does it say that a magus may take another magus servant if he/she is gifted? Also, how would anyone (except...
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