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1267
In my opinion sexual attitudes and gender attitudes in cannon Ars are very influenced by modern and victorian thinking. If we look at the writings of medieval...
Joel
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1268
... That's a new one for me, that means someone had contact with india. Are there any copies of this translation floating around? Joel...
Joel
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1269
... I guess being a maga able to turn others into frogs, delete their memories, strike them down with fire and other stuff counts as powerful. In a way this...
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1270
... Yes, and can you cite your source for me? I'd really like to follow this up and I have excellent university library resources which could track down such...
medieval matt
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1271
I would think it does happen. Whether or not it is a predominant thing is something else (a case for Tormenting Master surely). Remember that Apprentices...
Frank Sewell
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Dec 5, 2002
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1272
... Since they're seen in the order, socially, as parents (hence the name), I would imagine that parentes act on the whole like parents. Scott Orr...
Scott David Orr
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Dec 5, 2002
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1273
... So, the full gamut of human experience then. Joel...
Joel
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1274
... Perhaps. I really don't know how the typical medieval treated his children, though, or how it varied by region or social class. Scott Orr...
Scott David Orr
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1275
... Agnis Nestiphilis (House unknown) tortured and killed three apprentices in the middle of the 12th Century, with no legal consequence. Under the Code,...
Tim O'Brien
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Dec 7, 2002
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1276
Hello, everybody! This is my first posting on this list. ... way this alley leads down to the question: Do Hermetic parens abuse ... dirty ... In ancient...
Jakob Ryngen <jakobry...
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Jan 24, 2003
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1277
... Maybe, but there's little support for the idea that sexual abuse is rampant in the Order. ===== TSOB Timothy Squire O'Brien ...
Tim O'Brien
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1278
... I never said rampant. My case was if the sexual abuse is more common within the OoH than in the rest of the Mythic society. The reason against this is; 1)...
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1279
... Remember though that a Hermetic parens is considered, socially, to be not an educator, but a _parent_. I think that makes it a different ball of wax. ...
Scott David Orr
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1280
... Apprentices may not be full magi, but they're not considered "mortals"--they do, after all, have the Gift. ... Magi may have a right to kill apprentices...
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1281
... True, but a parent that has no physical tie and is not adopting the "child" as an infant. ... Yes, but they have the right to kill their apprentice. This...
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Jan 26, 2003
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1282
... I don't see that that matters. We're not talking about a stepchild or a foster child here--the closest analogy would be an adopted child, but in any case,...
Scott David Orr
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1283
Frank Cavendi nulla est dimittenda occasio! ... Yes, but they have the right to kill their apprentice. This suggest that the Order values its...
Frank Sewell
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Jan 27, 2003
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1284
... That is all Greek to me... ;-] Nils. -- E Pluribus Modem....
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1285
... or a ... but in ... society as ... It would be about as socially unacceptable to sexually abuse your own child as much as your stepchild or foster child,...
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1286
... Actually, no--it wouldn't be acceptable, but stepparents and foster parents are not socially expected to treat stepchildren or foster children the way they...
Scott David Orr
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1287
... society is ... Indeed, an ... gauntlet. Hm, the naming of the apprentice after has passed his suggest that he is not truly a person until he becomes a...
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1288
... Aren't apprentices considered "property" until gauntlet? That is, they have no free will, their actions being the responsibility of the paren.. ... I'm...
Miller, Jeffrey
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1289
... But boys weren't treated that way by _parents_. Calling them parents suggests that apprenticeship is viewed as childhood. ... Okay, but wouldn't the same...
Scott David Orr
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1290
Jus strictum and jus aequum in Hermetic law Derived from Roman law, this distinction indicates differences between two other types of rule. Rules of jus...
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1291
... parents ... But, as I suspected, checking OoH p. 124 "filius/filia" is used to desingnate once _former_ apprentice. Sorry for not checking this earlier. An...
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At 07:32 PM 1/30/2003 +0000, Jeremiah Genest <jeremiahgenest@...> ... Viewing the Peripheral Code, it looks to me like just about everything is open to...
Scott David Orr
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1293
... This position isn't logically supportable. Scott Orr...
Scott David Orr
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1294
... But magi to cede their right to vote, and there is a tradition that magi can vote the sigils of other magi; quaesitores and Redcaps do so. There are also ...
Tim O'Brien
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Jan 31, 2003
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1295
... Actually, what I was thinking of was the fact that you can't be Certamened out of your vote. Scott Orr...
Scott David Orr
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1296
... Well, that is certainly one way to end the debate! :) /Jakob Ryngen...
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