On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:13 -0400, "Brandon Blackmoor"
<bblackmoor@...> wrote:
>
> One idea I had was that each additional slot after the first
> two would cost (number of that slot)/6. ...
>
> Another idea I had was to say that every additional Wizardry
> sub-power cost 1/2, and that a character could have a max of
> six sub-powers.


No one else has an opinion?


Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

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2011-03-24

 

Hey Gareth,

Is this still on track? I know it is still technically the next week, but I haven't received my PDF or book yet.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Gareth-Michael Skarka <gms@...> wrote:

 

Folks--

Just a quick note to let you know that I'm very happy to announce that
THE VILLAINOMICON will be sent out to pre-order customers next week!

If you haven't already ordered, we're only keeping the pre-order open
until Friday this week.

If you HAVE already ordered -- thanks for sticking with us, and you'll
see the PDF next week, with the book arriving soon after!

-Gareth

----- Original Message -----

From: Brandon Blackmoor

To: Icons Discussion List

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 PM

Subject: [icons-rpg] additional Wizardry slots

 

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:13 -0400, "Brandon Blackmoor"
<bblackmoor@...> wrote:
>
> One idea I had was that each additional slot after the first
> two would cost (number of that slot)/6. ...
>
> Another idea I had was to say that every additional Wizardry
> sub-power cost 1/2, and that a character could have a max of
> six sub-powers.

No one else has an opinion?

Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

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2011-03-24

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:42 -0500, "Tommy Brownell" <tommyb@...>
wrote:
>
> It's not a helpful one, but:


Nope, not helpful. But better than no response at all. Thanks for taking
the time to respond.


Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

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2011-03-25

----- Original Message -----

From: Brandon Blackmoor

To: Icons Discussion List

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:25 AM

Subject: Re: [icons-rpg] additional Wizardry slots

 

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:42 -0500, "Tommy Brownell" <tommyb@...>
wrote:
>
> It's not a helpful one, but:

Nope, not helpful. But better than no response at all. Thanks for taking
the time to respond.

Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

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2011-03-25

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--- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, "Tommy Brownell" <tommyb@...> wrote:
>
> And please don't get me wrong, I'm not being down on you for trying to work it
out for yourself, I just wanted you to know that your attempts at discussing it
were being read, and not just ignored.
>
> For me, the main appeal of ICONS is "roll 'em up and go", and it's been
mentioned several times since the game's release that if you stare too hard at
the point buy system it'll break, because it was really only meant to appease
people who just absolutely had to have an alternative to random rolls.
>

I actually prefer "Character modeling" from MSH (FASERIP) system - simply tell
the GM 'my guy is stronger than Captain America but not as strong as Superman'.
One of the reasons I love Icons is that it is not another boring point-buy
system. All pb systems are essentially the same, so why do I have to buy M&M
when I already have Savage Worlds?

If you want to pick new Wizardry Powers at half cost that'd be fine at my games
- but they'd lower a player's starting determination as any new power outside
Wizardry. I think that Determination is the real balancing factor in Icons, not
the number or quality of powers.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jakub

To: icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 5:17 AM

Subject: [icons-rpg] Re: additional Wizardry slots

 

--- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, "Tommy Brownell" <tommyb@...> wrote:
>
> And please don't get me wrong, I'm not being down on you for trying to work it out for yourself, I just wanted you to know that your attempts at discussing it were being read, and not just ignored.
>
> For me, the main appeal of ICONS is "roll 'em up and go", and it's been mentioned several times since the game's release that if you stare too hard at the point buy system it'll break, because it was really only meant to appease people who just absolutely had to have an alternative to random rolls.
>

I actually prefer "Character modeling" from MSH (FASERIP) system - simply tell the GM 'my guy is stronger than Captain America but not as strong as Superman'. One of the reasons I love Icons is that it is not another boring point-buy system. All pb systems are essentially the same, so why do I have to buy M&M when I already have Savage Worlds?

If you want to pick new Wizardry Powers at half cost that'd be fine at my games - but they'd lower a player's starting determination as any new power outside Wizardry. I think that Determination is the real balancing factor in Icons, not the number or quality of powers.

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:07 +0000, "Soylent Green" <gsoylent@...>
wrote:
>
> I tend to think ICONS' of the point based system as "modelling
> with some guidelines". Any point build system is open to abuse,
> but ICONS' has fewer safeguards in this respect than most. A GM
> that expects that ICONS' point build total to act as first line
> of defence in enforcing game balance is probably in for a nasty
> surprise.


I do not disagree with any of this, but none of this is actually germane
to my question.

This is surreal. It's like asking someone, "What route would you
recommend to walk from here to Wal-Mart", and getting a bunch of blank
stares and two or three people saying, "Why don't you just drive? You
should just drive."

Just take it as a given that I have my reasons for wanting to walk to
Wal-Mart, okay?


Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

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2011-03-25

On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Chris McGuire wrote:

> Is this still on track? I know it is still technically the next
> week, but I haven't received my PDF or book yet.

Yes, we're still on track, but hit a snag of a day or so -- I moved
across town this week (including my home office where I run Adamant),
and discovered internet connection difficulties in the new place that
required re-wiring (all I had was my 3G phone, so I posted a couple of
updates on Adamant's Twitter account (@AdamantEnt -- which appears on
Adamant's website front page) and my person account as well (@GMSkarka).

As of about an hour ago, I have everything up and running -- taking
care of a few last details and the book will go to the printer (and in
PDF to pre-order customers) on Monday (at the latest -- I'll probably
send some time this weekend, even though the printer won't see it
until Monday).   It will ship from the printer to the warehouse by the
end of the week, and then out to pre-order customers (and then to
distributors).    FINALLY!

On a personal note?   Moving after 8 years in one location:   Not as
fun as you might think.   :)


-Gareth

I just (last October) moved after a similar period of time.

I think it will take about a year for us to unpack and put things away, and a
year after that to find better places to put things away.

  John McMullen (Young old coot)
jhmcmullen@...



----- Original Message ----
From: Gareth-Michael Skarka <gms@...>
To: icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 11:48:48 AM
Subject: Re: [icons-rpg] Villainomicon update


On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Chris McGuire wrote:

> Is this still on track? I know it is still technically the next
> week, but I haven't received my PDF or book yet.

Yes, we're still on track, but hit a snag of a day or so -- I moved
across town this week (including my home office where I run Adamant),
and discovered internet connection difficulties in the new place that
required re-wiring (all I had was my 3G phone, so I posted a couple of
updates on Adamant's Twitter account (@AdamantEnt -- which appears on
Adamant's website front page) and my person account as well (@GMSkarka).

As of about an hour ago, I have everything up and running -- taking
care of a few last details and the book will go to the printer (and in
PDF to pre-order customers) on Monday (at the latest -- I'll probably
send some time this weekend, even though the printer won't see it
until Monday).   It will ship from the printer to the warehouse by the
end of the week, and then out to pre-order customers (and then to
distributors).    FINALLY!

On a personal note?   Moving after 8 years in one location:   Not as
fun as you might think.   :)


-Gareth


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In my games, I would probably use the point-buy RAW for Wizardry rather than
lower the cost on additional powers after the initial two, but I don't think
you'd seriously break anything if you decided to give an additional two powers
for the price of one after the initial two from Wizardry purchase have been
picked. I'd keep the picks bundled in groups of two - half points are annoying.

If you did allow that reduced cost for additional two powers picks at the price
of one, I would suggest making some sort of Challenge that limits the powers or
Wizardry in general mandatory. Perhaps the Challenge could state that power use
requires spell components (verbal, somatic or material), or a special magical
focus device like a wand or staff or a ring that the character must have in his
or her possession for the powers to work.

jaerdaph

--- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor@...> wrote:
>
> What's the general consensus (or is there one) regarding the purchase of
> additional powers under Wizardry (when one is building characters with
> points, rather than randomly)? My intention was to make them cost
> normal, but then I realized that this means that the character might
> just as well buy those powers outside of the Wizardry. My next thought
> was to make them cost half, which is essentially what it costs for the
> first two powers a character has under Wizardry.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Brandon Blackmoor
>
> --
> bblackmoor@...
> 2011-03-22
>

Yeah, normally I hate going to movies in the theater anymore (I mean, if I were
to beat someone to death with the cell phone they were using during the movie,
my chances are pretty good no jury would ever convict me, right? ;), but I am so
looking forward to going to this movie when it comes out. :)

jaerdaph

--- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, "dirkgentry2000" <dirkgentry2000@...> wrote:
>
> Apologies - not strictly on topic
>
> While I can't speak for Chuck...
>
> Fore me- Captain America in WW2 is definitely (and I suppose, obviously) one
of my inspirations whenever I'm writing or gaming ICONS in the WW2 era.
>
> So - in the vein of WW2 supers goodsness....well..."awesome" doesn't do it
justice.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4p52gnh
>

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:40 -0700, "Chris Tavares"
<cct@...> wrote:
>
> I think the restriction vs. the advantage is pretty much a
> wash. It's certainly not enough of a down side to result in
> half-cost powers. If you did this, I expect *every* character
> would buy Wizardry right out of the box.


That's the best argument I have heard for keeping the cost of Wizardry
sub-powers flat. I'm convinced.


Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

--
bblackmoor@...
2011-03-25

The trailer looks awesome, lets hope its not a disapointment, love the CGI thats
turned him into the wimpy kid he was before entering the super soldier project.
This stuff gets me inspired!

--- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, "jaerdaph" <jjbardales@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, normally I hate going to movies in the theater anymore (I mean, if I
were to beat someone to death with the cell phone they were using during the
movie, my chances are pretty good no jury would ever convict me, right? ;), but
I am so looking forward to going to this movie when it comes out. :)
>
> jaerdaph
>
> --- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, "dirkgentry2000" <dirkgentry2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Apologies - not strictly on topic
> >
> > While I can't speak for Chuck...
> >
> > Fore me- Captain America in WW2 is definitely (and I suppose, obviously) one
of my inspirations whenever I'm writing or gaming ICONS in the WW2 era.
> >
> > So - in the vein of WW2 supers goodsness....well..."awesome" doesn't do it
justice.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/4p52gnh
> >
>

Just thought I'd give a shout out to let everyone know that Vigilance press are
just about to have their 9th Birthday, Chuck Rice is having a competition to
celebrate, details from Chucks Blog below;

Ok, so here's what we'll do:

If you'd like to help me celebrate VGP's 9th birthday, send in a supervillain,
with ICONS stats and a full background.

I'll pick the winner, and commission a full color picture of the villain from
Jon Gibbons.

That villain will then be featured in an upcoming Vigilance Press product, The
Forever War, written by me.

If I get enough entries that I like, I might declare multiple winners and make
them a villain team.

Besides being featured in the first USHER-centric adventure written by me, maybe
we'll do something else for the winner, like have them as a guest on the VGP
podcast.

The next in our ongoing series of Cold War themed supers for ICONS is the devious, steel-headed villain Death Mask! Death Mask (aka James Moraity) is a brilliant but twisted genius.

While posing as a legitimate businessman, he channels his billions into P.H.A.N.T.O.M., a private terrorist force that uses subtle manipulation and corruption to weaken its enemies and increase its power.

Check it out!

 

*Whistles casually*
 

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To: icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com
From: gms@...
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:48:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [icons-rpg] Villainomicon update

 

On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Chris McGuire wrote:

> Is this still on track? I know it is still technically the next
> week, but I haven't received my PDF or book yet.

Yes, we're still on track, but hit a snag of a day or so -- I moved
across town this week (including my home office where I run Adamant),
and discovered internet connection difficulties in the new place that
required re-wiring (all I had was my 3G phone, so I posted a couple of
updates on Adamant's Twitter account (@AdamantEnt -- which appears on
Adamant's website front page) and my person account as well (@GMSkarka).

As of about an hour ago, I have everything up and running -- taking
care of a few last details and the book will go to the printer (and in
PDF to pre-order customers) on Monday (at the latest -- I'll probably
send some time this weekend, even though the printer won't see it
until Monday). It will ship from the printer to the warehouse by the
end of the week, and then out to pre-order customers (and then to
distributors). FINALLY!

On a personal note? Moving after 8 years in one location: Not as
fun as you might think. :)

-Gareth

I got a phone call directing me to log on and answer this email--

No, nobody has been sent the PDF yet.     Unfortunately, both myself
and my daughter are quite ill (bronchitis or some other respiratory
crud -- just got back from the doctor, with perscriptions of
antibiotics and such), which impacted my work availability, as you
might imagine.

The PDF will be sent out this week, no matter what.

-G

On 3/29/2011 3:15 PM, Gareth-Michael Skarka wrote:
> I got a phone call directing me to log on and answer this email--
>
> No, nobody has been sent the PDF yet.     Unfortunately, both myself
> and my daughter are quite ill (bronchitis or some other respiratory
> crud -- just got back from the doctor, with perscriptions of
> antibiotics and such), which impacted my work availability, as you
> might imagine.
>
> The PDF will be sent out this week, no matter what.
>
> -G

Get well, vibes. I hope you can fight it off with the medications

Sadly, I was too poor to pre-order, but I understand illness. My wife
had to hit the ER for bronchitis/"walking pneumonia" yesterday. Not fun
at all.

Hey there. I am looking for a simple tool to help me draw a superhero
base. I have all kinds of crazy expensive image software, but I really
just want something simple.

What I want is to be able to draw images like these for elevation:

http://www.metroairport.com/images/3-23-10_North_LEVELS_Map_sm.gif
http://www.pbia.org/images/LevelsMap.gif

And these for plan:

http://www.crmcwy.org/uploadedImages/About_Us_-_Locations/Locations/east_buildin\
g_first_floor_2.png

And if I could get a stacked isometric projection like this, well that
would just be swell:

http://www.issp.u-tokyo.ac.jp/maincontents/floormap_en.html

Any suggestions?



Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

--
bblackmoor@...
2011-04-01

Oh, and if you know of any good superhero (or supervillain) base maps
that I could use without drawing them myself, that would be terrific.



Kind regards,
Brandon Blackmoor

--
bblackmoor@...
2011-04-01