This group is still inactive, but I thought I'd just give this a try.

Test Post

Assuming I have changed the setting correctly, this list is now
closed to further postings. Now that the new version has been
published there no longer seems any point to continuing discussions
here.

The message archive and so forth can still be viewed, by, if I have
done it right, members and non-members alike.

All further discussion can take place at the main list.

Alan Saunders

I just spoke to Teresa at Keep Wargaming and they say that HOTT 2 came
back from the printers yesterday.

I've just placed an order for 5 copies and for those of you wishing to
do likewise, Keep Wargaming' number is +44 (0) 1380 724558

Jez <- Now a happy man.

Sorry was forwarding this to a friend, all thumbs tonight :)

Cheers

Derek

At 10:52  17/06/02 +1000, you wrote:
>At 05:50  16/06/02 +0000, paulus_graculus wrote:
> >Hi,
> >looks like it's out:
> >Advert in Miniature Wargames July 2002, page45:
> >Keep Wargaming.
> >"New from WRG
> >Hordes of the Things 2nd Edition £6.00"
> >Rejoice!
> >Cheers,
> >Paul.
>
>Hope your over the flu.
>
>Cheers
>
>Derek
>
>Derek Fulton
>12 Balaka st.
>Rosny, Hobart.
>Tasmania,  7018.
>Australia
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At 05:50  16/06/02 +0000, paulus_graculus wrote:
>Hi,
>looks like it's out:
>Advert in Miniature Wargames July 2002, page45:
>Keep Wargaming.
>"New from WRG
>Hordes of the Things 2nd Edition £6.00"
>Rejoice!
>Cheers,
>Paul.

Hope your over the flu.

Cheers

Derek

Derek Fulton
12 Balaka st.
Rosny, Hobart.
Tasmania,  7018.
Australia

Phone; (03) 62459123
Mobile; 0438459123
Email; derekfulton@...
URL; http://www.users.bigpond.com/derekfulton/

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Hi,
looks like it's out:
Advert in Miniature Wargames July 2002, page45:
Keep Wargaming.
"New from WRG
Hordes of the Things 2nd Edition £6.00"
Rejoice!
Cheers,
Paul.

--- In hottrevision@y..., Martin Costa <mcosta@s...> wrote:
> >Alan Saunders wrote:
> > > Looks like it's at least 3 :-)
> >
> >Or 4. Or 5. Or more.
>
>
>
> Bugger.
>
>
> Christmas, then ?
>
> >
> >Alan Saunders
> >alan.catherine@b...
> >http://www.hordesofthethings.com
> >
> >
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> Martin Costa, Ph.D.
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>Alan Saunders wrote:
> > Looks like it's at least 3 :-)
>
>Or 4. Or 5. Or more.



Bugger.


Christmas, then ?

>
>Alan Saunders
>alan.catherine@...
>http://www.hordesofthethings.com
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Alan Saunders wrote:
> Looks like it's at least 3 :-)

Or 4. Or 5. Or more.

Alan Saunders
alan.catherine@...
http://www.hordesofthethings.com

--- In hottrevision@y..., "stenicplus" <stenic@o...> wrote:
> Just tried again on the off chance they might be attending Beer &
> Pretzels. They are not and neither is v2.0 ready yet, latest
estimate
> is 2 to 3 weeks !!

Looks like it's at least 3 :-)

Alan Saunders
alan.catherne@...
http://www.hordesofthethings.com

Just tried again on the off chance they might be attending Beer &
Pretzels. They are not and neither is v2.0 ready yet, latest estimate
is 2 to 3 weeks !!

Steve P

--- In hottrevision@y..., "kh_ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t...> wrote:

>
> 4 weeks and counting...
>
> Any progress report ?
>


I was wondering the same myself, I spoke to Keep Wargaming back at
end of April and they hoped for mid May but could not commit for
obvious reasons.

Steve

--- In hottrevision@y..., "Richard Bodley Scott"
<Richardbodleyscott@b...> wrote:
> >
> > This is good news indeed. When can we expect to be able to part
> > with our hard-earned cash for a copy?
>
> That i don't know. On previous performance 4-8 weeks I would say.
> The latter being more likely.

4 weeks and counting...

Any progress report ?

Greetings
Karl Heinz

If you're referring to our first game with Sky Pirates, I played my Generic
Medieval army (the only one I had at the time). And I believe that you
recoiled from a combat with a Knight element (possibly my Knight General).

If you're referring to our second game with the Sky Pirates, there were
only two combats between Capt. Stag and the Orc Hero. The first, in which
we both erroneously thought that the my Orc Hero recoiled (instead of being
QKed), and the second in which we both erroneously thought that Capt. Stag
had to recoil and was destroyed by the element on his rear.

As for *my* defense, I need said defense just a much as *you* do.

-Darkhost

At 07:50 AM 4/15/02 -0700, you wrote:
>In Darkhost's defense, we may have already had the Captain Stag vs. Orc
>Hero combat in the game
>resulting in a recoil, I'm not sure but the precedent may have been
>established previously through
>mutual ignorance. Still a damn impressive fight though 8^)
>
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In Darkhost's defense, we may have already had the Captain Stag vs. Orc Hero
combat in the game
resulting in a recoil, I'm not sure but the precedent may have been established
previously through
mutual ignorance. Still a damn impressive fight though 8^)

Punkrabbitt <--- late to bed early to rise makes a boy happy twice

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----- Original Message -----
From: "kaptainkobold" <alan.catherine@...>

> Just think; in  few months time the HOTT lists will be full of bitter
> and acrimonious rule debates, just like it was a year and more ago!

Looking forward to that

:-)
Karl Heinz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomo the Lost" <thomothelost1@...>
To: <hottrevision@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [hottrevision] HOTT to Publisher

> Time to shut down hottrevision then Alan?

I would wait at least until the printer has finished his job. I want to know
when I can order it (and where).

> Richard Bodley Scott wrote:
>
> >As I write this, I am printing out the final version of HOTT2 and will be
> >sending it to the publisher today.

Good news !
Karl Heinz

I'm going to guess that it will take longer than that to get distributed to
stores in the US/Canada -- but I very well could be wrong.

-Darkhost

At 07:44 PM 4/14/02 +0100, you wrote:

> >
> > This is good news indeed. When can we expect to be able to part with
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> Can we do DBR next then?

No. Not my baby.

>
> This is good news indeed. When can we expect to be able to part with
> our hard-earned cash for a copy?

That i don't know. On previous performance 4-8 weeks I would say. The latter
being more likely.

Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:08:43 +0100
    From: "Richard Bodley Scott" <Richardbodleyscott@...>
Subject: HOTT to Publisher

As I write this, I am printing out the final version of HOTT2 and will be
sending it to the publisher today.
Richard

Can we do DBR next then?
Chris:-)

I wanted to say something but I cannot find the words to tell my enthusiasm ...

     Christophe - the best ruleset in the DBx family ... finally available ! -


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Richard Bodley Scott wrote:
> As I write this, I am printing out the final version of HOTT2 and
will be
> sending it to the publisher today.

This is good news indeed. When can we expect to be able to part with
our hard-earned cash for a copy?

Alan Saunders
alan.catherine@...
http://www.hordesofthethings.com

Thomo the Lost wrote:
> Time to shut down hottrevision then Alan?

Not at all. The message archive will be useful for referring people
to when, in two years time, they ask why certain things are the way
they are.

I shall therefore leave this list open. I think I will close down the
ability to post to it once the new edition is published, however. At
that point they become the 'property' of the whole HOTT community,
not just those involved in the revision, and should be discussed as
such.

Just think; in  few months time the HOTT lists will be full of bitter
and acrimonious rule debates, just like it was a year and more ago!

Alan Saunders
alan.catherine@...
http://www.hordesofthethings.com

hooman_bean wrote:

>Nope. Just keep it for the carping, complaining, and discussion for
>the NEXT revision.
>
>What kind of gamer are you, mate?
>
At the moment, deprived, severely deprived :-(

>
>
>Jeff  <--Never pleased, barely content
>
CHeers, Thomo the Lost <-- Leaving aside anything to do with the content
in the sig above!

Nope. Just keep it for the carping, complaining, and discussion for
the NEXT revision.

What kind of gamer are you, mate?

Jeff  <--Never pleased, barely content


--- In hottrevision@y..., Thomo the Lost <thomothelost1@c...> wrote:
> Time to shut down hottrevision then Alan?
>
> Richard Bodley Scott wrote:
>
> >As I write this, I am printing out the final version of HOTT2 and
will be
> >sending it to the publisher today.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Cheers, Thomo the Lost
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thomo_the_lost/
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> "Ford had another Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster, the drink which has
been
> described as the alcoholic equivalent of a mugging - expensive and
bad for
> the head."

From: "Richard Bodley Scott" <Richardbodleyscott@...>
> As I write this, I am printing out the final version of HOTT2 and will be
> sending it to the publisher today.
------------------

WOO-HOOO!!! :-D

Bill Bennett <-- is already saving up for the purchase of multiple copies.

My wargaming website:
http://showcase.netins.net/web/lazlair/

Time to shut down hottrevision then Alan?

Richard Bodley Scott wrote:

>As I write this, I am printing out the final version of HOTT2 and will be
>sending it to the publisher today.
>
>
>

--
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the head."

KH.Ranitzsch@... wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "kaptainkobold" <alan.catherine@...>
>
>>I know *I* beat your Carolingians :-) but I do remember you winning
>>against the odds against UNIT when you oponent seemed happy to let
>>you cross a river in front of him, despite having plenty of shooters
>>and artillery to contest you with. Still don't understand that one.
>>
>
>Must have been the Duke of Sung - Obscure reference to an ancient Chinese
>general.
>
>He was in a similar position. He also thought it unfair to attack an enemy
>crossing a river and waited until they had crossed and deployed. Got soundly
>beaten. Mao Tse-tung once emphatically claimed "I'm not the Duke of Sung".
>
And for the record, it was bloody hard work getting across that damn
river - some snappy paladin work did the trick however and managed to
get me onto the flank of the opposition..

The other loss I recall with the Carolingians was to number two son who
took the Naked Ladies - full of shooters and warbands and the odd blade
and sat most of them in a wood covering a gap with the only clear
terrain in the centre of the table. Almost managed to pull that one off
with a Paladin/Knight force march through some of the woods - almost.

Spent most of the battle looking at the shooters in the woods and
thinking .... nah!

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Ah, Steve would need to produce the full win/loss record - I just recall
that they performed well - and they were more unlucky than anything else
against your hill sitters :-)

It is always better to rest on your perceived performance than it is to
go to cold hard statistics, after all!

kaptainkobold wrote:

>
>Out of interest, what was the Win, Lose Draw record for this army in
>teh four games you used it for (remembering that some of your mid-
>table position came from the use of pool armies , if I recall Steve's
>system correctly)?
>
>For example, my record with my 'chosen' army was W2, L1, D1, whilst
>my record with pool armies was W3, L1. So, in effect, my position in
>teh table was determined more by my success with pool armies rather
>than my chosen army.
>
>I know *I* beat your Carolingians :-) but I do remember you winning
>against the odds against UNIT when you oponent seemed happy to let
>you cross a river in front of him, despite having plenty of shooters
>and artillery to contest you with. Still don't understand that one.
>
>Alan Saunders
>alan.catherine@...
>http://www.hordesofthethings.com
>
>

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