just download the tutorial (in the files section, or go to the help
section under the SW:CCG page on the website-which is under the
bookmarks.) I am also updating the tutorial to add R3 support. this
should be up later today. I will also upload and add support for R3
today as well. To play games online, i reccomend using the test
versions CT1.11x2 and 3 (self-
extracting zip file) from http://cardtable.go.to/beta as they are
more stable (especially 1.11x3 which works the best.)

because of the fact that you can only use specific versions to
connect to each other, i would avoid changing anything buggy with
cardtable itself, stormtrooper_420. you won't be able to play against
anyone accept people using the same exact thing that you have. If you
are interested in it, the proggy designer might be interested in help.

In any event, the R3 files should be up tonight and i will fix the 2
broken zip file links so that you can get the files.


--- In evelchriis@y..., chamberlain2426@a... wrote:
> could you please tell me how to work the program for the SW: CCG. I
need some
> help

could you please tell me how to work the program for the SW: CCG. I need some
help

I have everything working for my swccg, I took the liberty to fix
bugs in card tbale, add R3, make thumbs, etc etc etc EVERYTHING
WORKS heh.  I have one large zip where all you do is extract to c:\
and you are playing it is about 22 MB anyways, catch you later
DigitalBattousai on AIM

I play RAGE (Apocalypse) mostly and sometimes Magic the Gathering (only from
the newer sets)...

Contact ID:  swiftrat@...
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hey everyone...I gots a request for everyone. Can all of you other
members post what games you play and a contact ID if you want to play
games (also post which games you play so i can build an online player
database.)

I am thinking about starting a tournament if anyone wants to play, i
might do one, two, or three games. the games would have to be either
SW:CCG, Rage, or M:tG because the first two are the games with the
best play/# of images, etc, and M:tG is so universal that almost
everyone can play/whip up a quick deck.

Let me know anyones thoughts.

Also, one Final request:
Can you guys all send your online friends to this yahoo group so i
can get more members and thus more potential players for everyone to
hook up and game with. This has been from the start a For Us (the
fans) By Us project and without people knowing about it and
playing/using it, the whole cardtable gaming scene will disappear
into small groups and apprentice players will laugh at us all. BTW,
please vote in the polls because it makes me feel all warm and tingly
inside.

just to let you all know that my site will now host (as soon as i get
it) the lord of the rings ccg. It is no-image right now, but
hopefully we can change that by finding some and getting them linked
in. should be fun.

the final version of rage is now up. the only thing now to come for
the rage ccg is one small update that will overwrite a small handful
of cards that i still lack images for (a dozen or less i believe).
this coming file will be a simple small zip file that you will use to
overwrite a few current images that are holding the place for the
missing ones (like the default cards, just slightly different.) You
can erase your default card folder ("o") if you have one as you will
no longer need it. anyone with a rage.zip or image zip file older
than the one uploaded on 10/28/01 will want to download the newest
version of all files.

evel

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/wildpaging/index.html

BTW, i am gonna make an addition to the SW:CCG/Deckmaker to Cardtable
tutorial to help those wondering how to make their tatooine and
Coruscant files work since the WD2CTD program does not convert the
image pathways correctly. Expect this within the next few days-and
probably even tonight.

Evel

i am gonna go ahead and upload the finished product later today
sometime (with the default images in the place of the few cards that
i need-but in the original zip files-so you would no longer need
the "o" folder's images.) I will make an update file to download
later that will overwrite those default images to the correct ones
when i get them-this will eliminate needing the "o.zip" image file
and eliminate the need to ever upload a new rage.zip because
the .ctd's image pathways will be correct and in their final form. B4
i go ahead and do this, is there any fantasy cards that you want to
submit? i have 6 more that i am going to add, but any ideas would be
welcome-especially any combat cards, moots, or characters (etc.)

was it someone from this group that emailed me the reflections 3
thumbnails for SW:CCG? I need the ctd/cdf/windeck2 or dat file that
goes along with it so that i can send it further on and get it to the
people who update the SW deckmaker.

the new rage version will be up soon. look for it real soon; probably
within the next few days. just a reminder-you will need to create new
decks to reflect the proper image pathways, so if you want the new
card images you would need to make new decks with the deckbuilder.

You will have to download all of the files and overwrite your old
ones when you extract them. If the files are not up by tuesday, start
emailing me junk to motivate me.

Fair enough... *downloads the test versions CT1.11 x 2 and 3*  I'll play
with and let ya know what goes BOOM... =:p

U wrote:
>Swiftrat:  If you could (at some point, and I realize it might be a
>pain for you), download the test versions CT1.11x2 and 3 (self-
>extracting zip file) from http://cardtable.go.to/beta, and see if one
>of those appears stable for you, I would appreciate it _very_ much.
>Each one of those files took out one section of code I suspected
>could be causing the instability, so I am hoping one of them is good.
>That said, PLEASE email any errors you receive to cardtable@....  I
>won't hound you to be a beta tester if you don't want to be, but I
>need feedback to make the program the best it can be.


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*sigh*  CT1.11 was a couple of minor changes from the 1.10 code, but
something caused the crashes, and since my testers went in search of
the dodo, and I can't reproduce it, I have as yet been unable to
track it down.

Swift rat:  If you could (at some point, and I realize it might be a
pain for you), download the test versions CT1.11x2 and 3 (self-
extracting zip file) from http://cardtable.go.to/beta, and see if one
of those appears stable for you, I would appreciate it _very_ much.
Each one of those files took out one section of code I suspected
could be causing the instability, so I am hoping one of them is good.

That said, PLEASE email any errors you receive to cardtable@....  I
won't hound you to be a beta tester if you don't want to be, but I
need feedback to make the program the best it can be.

Ryan P. Casey


> >oops, i guess i should have made a post to let you know about that.
> >Make sure of 2 things:
> >1-you are both using the same version (1.10 or 1.11)
> >2-that you are using 1.10
>
> Ah... fair enough *downloads 1.10*  *plays with it for a bit* I
see... I
> hardly had any errors on it...
> >version 1.11 has a lot of glitches in it that cause random crashes
(i
> >know what you mean-it really sucks.) so most people use version
1.10
> >because it does not have these errors. there is a note about it on
> >the cardtable homepage (http://go.to/cardtable).
>
> Yeah, I saw that... =:)
>
> >I do have a much more stable version that is a beta available to
> >playtesters (which i really like) but there is one major glitch:
you
> >can not exit the program. I will maybe upload this to my site later
> >so that you can try it.
>
> Um... ok... best to wait for it to be fully tested though...
>
> >Also, go to the cardtable homesite above and email the proggys
> >creator. He is in desperate need of playtesters so he can tweak his
> >newer version (1.12) which will just precede version 2-version 2
will
> >have multiplayer support and a bunch more options.
>
> Erf... I know nothing about playtesting stuff... I probably wouldnt
have the
> time to anyway as I only get a chnace to play with a guy in USA at
the
> moment and he only comes online every now and again...
>
> >For the time being, just use version 1.10 (i used to get the same
> >thing whenever i flipped 2-sided cards or flipped cards really
fast.)
>
> Yeah. The errors I got where when I moved cards around the table...
>
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Thanx so much. in the next release version (i am gonna afta re-write
all of the cards image pathways to boot out the default cards, so you
will need the new rage.zip version) i will be sure to give you credit.

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> Hey Chris... I'm gonna try and scan ALL of the cards still needed
for the
> base set of RAGE so people can play with images of the cards fully
> available...
>
> If time permits me, I'll also set on scanning cards from the other
series...
>
> Character cards are the most important at the time being so I'll
email you a
> batch of character cards for the base set (Unlimited) to you
chrisloveskelly
> account...
>
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Hey Chris... I'm gonna try and scan ALL of the cards still needed for the
base set of RAGE so people can play with images of the cards fully
available...

If time permits me, I'll also set on scanning cards from the other series...

Character cards are the most important at the time being so I'll email you a
batch of character cards for the base set (Unlimited) to you chrisloveskelly
account...

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>oops, i guess i should have made a post to let you know about that.
>Make sure of 2 things:
>1-you are both using the same version (1.10 or 1.11)
>2-that you are using 1.10

Ah... fair enough *downloads 1.10*  *plays with it for a bit* I see... I
hardly had any errors on it...

>version 1.11 has a lot of glitches in it that cause random crashes (i
>know what you mean-it really sucks.) so most people use version 1.10
>because it does not have these errors. there is a note about it on
>the cardtable homepage (http://go.to/cardtable).

Yeah, I saw that... =:)

>I do have a much more stable version that is a beta available to
>playtesters (which i really like) but there is one major glitch: you
>can not exit the program. I will maybe upload this to my site later
>so that you can try it.

Um... ok... best to wait for it to be fully tested though...

>Also, go to the cardtable homesite above and email the proggys
>creator. He is in desperate need of playtesters so he can tweak his
>newer version (1.12) which will just precede version 2-version 2 will
>have multiplayer support and a bunch more options.

Erf... I know nothing about playtesting stuff... I probably wouldnt have the
time to anyway as I only get a chnace to play with a guy in USA at the
moment and he only comes online every now and again...

>For the time being, just use version 1.10 (i used to get the same
>thing whenever i flipped 2-sided cards or flipped cards really fast.)

Yeah. The errors I got where when I moved cards around the table...

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Hey all. The image files are up for Magic the Gathering. Now an M:tG
game can look more like the screenshot.

oops, i guess i should have made a post to let you know about that.
Make sure of 2 things:

1-you are both using the same version (1.10 or 1.11)
2-that you are using 1.10

version 1.11 has a lot of glitches in it that cause random crashes (i
know what you mean-it really sucks.) so most people use version 1.10
because it does not have these errors. there is a note about it on
the cardtable homepage (http://go.to/cardtable).

I do have a much more stable version that is a beta available to
playtesters (which i really like) but there is one major glitch: you
can not exit the program. I will maybe upload this to my site later
so that you can try it.
Also, go to the cardtable homesite above and email the proggys
creator. He is in desperate need of playtesters so he can tweak his
newer version (1.12) which will just precede version 2-version 2 will
have multiplayer support and a bunch more options.

For the time being, just use version 1.10 (i used to get the same
thing whenever i flipped 2-sided cards or flipped cards really fast.)

Hope this helps.

Damn...  test playing with a few people... when setting the game up, and
moving cards around on the interface BANG!!! It shits itself with this
error:



CARDTABLE caused an invalid page fault in
module CARDTABLE.EXE at 017f:00438817.
Registers:
EAX=00c65b3c CS=017f EIP=00438817 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00000768 SS=0187 ESP=0090f458 EBP=0090f45c
ECX=00c65b3c DS=0187 ESI=00bb43ec FS=95cf
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=0061a83c GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 82 d4 00 00 00 83 e0 02 85 c0 74 24 8b 4d fc
Stack dump:
00c65b3c 00000000 004e18a9 00c65b3c 00000000 ffffffff 005a0308 00000001
ffffffff 004f3afe 004f3b11 00000002 005f8114 00ba23ca 0090f4a8 00439aa5


I'm not sure who to pass this onto but you seem good friends with the guy
who wrote CardTable... let him know about this... nothing kills an online
game and scares players away more than errors and invalid page faults...

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the rage tutorial is up now in the files section.

>just to let you know, i did some tweaking on the rage.zip file.

Dammit! I cant access any outside sites!  lousy &*&$$%^$##  cheap connection
line...  can you email me the new rage.zip file...  its only 250kb?

Thanks.

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just to let you know, i did some tweaking on the rage.zip file.
(swiftrat and other confused users will want to download and
overwrite it so that the tutorial works perfectly with it.)

>just a quick note, on Rage, when you use the deckbuilder, you can
>tell what set the card is in by the note in parentheses following the
>card title (rage, umbra, promo, etc.) if it says "(o)" it means that
>the card is a default image (one of those with the smiley-devilball).

Yeah, I figured that. Theres a LOT of (o)s in there but it doesnt explain
whats with all the *.gif card image files that were in the zips... =O__o'=
*looks confuzzled*

>Those ones do not tell you which set they belong to, but the note in
>parentheses can help you find where all of these images belong and
>which ones have actual card scans. for example, in the image link
>above, the card is "wancheses bow", you could find the image in this
>filder "C:\cardtable\cards\rage\promo" likewise, you could find a
>card with the "(o)" note in "C:\cardtable\cards\rage\o"
>and "(amazon)" in "C:\cardtable\cards\rage\amazon".

Yuppers.

>hope this helps you out a little, swiftrat. keep playin with it and
>it becomes quite clear after a little experimentation. That is how i
>learned everything about this program-i just opened the files in a
>text editor, worked out the image paths and did a little reverse
>engineering. just keep workin at it until i get my tutorials up.

Good ol' trial and error... =:)

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>If you have the smiley face image over a card template, then it means
>that the card image is not yet included because i do not have a scan
>of it.

Arou??? Then what's with all the *.gif files??? All the little pics of cards
that are in the zip files on your site? (eg: legacy.zip contains images of
the cards) but they dont show...


>when there is no card image ready normally, there is nothing
>but a white card with the cards title on it for a picture (text on
>mouseover works normally). Rather than have to deal with a lot of
>blank cards which looks kinda tacky, i made some default images with
>a card template. these tmeplates have the layout of each specific
>card (events, moots, etc.) but no text and my devil-ball logo as a
>picture.

Nup... nothing on anything... some cards have images (like "Stand Like A
Fool" and "Anna Kliminski") but a majority (95%) are blank...


>i will create a FAQ/tutorial for installing this game next and i
>should have it up within a few days. Try checking out the
>readme/notes included with the rage.zip  I tried to include pretty
>specific instructions on this in there. I will have a full tutorial
>with screenshots available within a week (probably by tommorrow, time
>permitting, or else i might do it over the weekend.)

Tutorial would be excellent (I couldnt see anything in the readme files that
would help)... RAGE Online has a LOT of potential, see if you can also
include a screenshot of the directory tree for the cardtable folder as it
should look like... =:)

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just a quick note, on Rage, when you use the deckbuilder, you can
tell what set the card is in by the note in parentheses following the
card title (rage, umbra, promo, etc.) if it says "(o)" it means that
the card is a default image (one of those with the smiley-devilball).
       for an example, click this:
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/marvelclassic/images/screenshot1.jpg

Those ones do not tell you which set they belong to, but the note in
parentheses can help you find where all of these images belong and
which ones have actual card scans. for example, in the image link
above, the card is "wancheses bow", you could find the image in this
filder "C:\cardtable\cards\rage\promo" likewise, you could find a
card with the "(o)" note in "C:\cardtable\cards\rage\o"
and "(amazon)" in "C:\cardtable\cards\rage\amazon".

hope this helps you out a little, swiftrat. keep playin with it and
it becomes quite clear after a little experimentation. That is how i
learned everything about this program-i just opened the files in a
text editor, worked out the image paths and did a little reverse
engineering. just keep workin at it until i get my tutorials up.

If you have the smiley face image over a card template, then it means
that the card image is not yet included because i do not have a scan
of it. when there is no card image ready normally, there is nothing
but a white card with the cards title on it for a picture (text on
mouseover works normally). Rather than have to deal with a lot of
blank cards which looks kinda tacky, i made some default images with
a card template. these tmeplates have the layout of each specific
card (events, moots, etc.) but no text and my devil-ball logo as a
picture.

i will create a FAQ/tutorial for installing this game next and i
should have it up within a few days. Try checking out the
readme/notes included with the rage.zip  I tried to include pretty
specific instructions on this in there. I will have a full tutorial
with screenshots available within a week (probably by tommorrow, time
permitting, or else i might do it over the weekend.)


--- In evelchriis@y..., swiftrat@h... wrote:
> Where exactly should all the RAGE files go???
>
> Can you include a screenshot of what the folder construction tree
> list thingy should look like... =:)
>
> Like... I have all the images (*.gif files) but they dont load in
the
> deckbuilder OR the actual CartTable program... all I get is a
little
> yellow smiley face with red devil horns all over the cards...
>
> Thanks.

Where exactly should all the RAGE files go???

Can you include a screenshot of what the folder construction tree
list thingy should look like... =:)

Like... I have all the images (*.gif files) but they dont load in the
deckbuilder OR the actual CartTable program... all I get is a little
yellow smiley face with red devil horns all over the cards...

Thanks.

Just a note to let you all know what is up and coming: tutorials for
installing/using/playing cardtable and deckbuilder (maybe even some
deck maker). As you can see, i have screenshots up.

You can already add your name to the players list. Also, I should
soon have better mirrors for downloading cardtable definition files
(the little files that let you play a certain game.) Check under the
bookmarks for the current host page for files and downloads.

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