> Thunders could still be a bit lower in cost but about about so would
> be happy to try fight them again.

;-) with or without the armor penetration

Without :p with you would need to be around the 100 points.


> Troll slayer rules may be right but if the have this 30cm moving
unit

Actualy it is not a 30 cm moving unit. The 10cm is just once at the
start of your turn and after that they have normal infantry move.
Besides the extra 10 is random based on positioning AND could cause
confusion on other units, so I think there is enough offset in the
unit to avoid doing what you point out below...

The effect is actual better than a 30cm move allow them to Init.
Charge from up to 30cm, for a unit the dwarf have to destry this is a big
advantage (10cm toward nearest, then another 20 Init charge)

This actual provide futher power to the thought the a dwarf general
should cost more :p Would you not argee looking at a unit that can init
charge from 30cm doing 18attack on average losses a stand for an unarmoured
unit.

and then get in it's next turn another up to 30cm attack. Is very
powerfull and giving Dwarf access to cheaper unit will allow them to get a
higher break point, therefore the lost a single unit of slayer will have
little or no effect on his break point, when it is like to have remove 1 to
2 units it's self.


Leslie