Does anyone know where I can purchase or download this book?
Every hint would be helpful!!!

Regards,

Mark

empire-deluxe@egroups.com schrieb am 29.11.00:
> I am curious as to how many of the group members actually own or are
> aware of the above books existence.
>
>
>
>
>


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Alan Scase wrote:

> I am curious as to how many of the group members actually own or are
> aware of the above books existence.
>

OK, you have me curious.  I did not know about this book, and  have been
doing fairly well without it, but there is always room for improvement.  Does
anyone know where you can get or buy or download a copy of this book now?

Weatherman

Does anyone have Empire Deluxe webpages who are NOT in the Webring? If so,
contact Tim Roberts (troberts@...).

I was thinking that perhaps we should all have the little bit of HTML at the
bottom of our pages that allows people to sign up to this list. The list
started at around 40 people, when the old dartmouth list shut down, and now
is almost into triple figures. And I think we should make it as easy as
possible to subscribe for newbies.

Also, has anyone thought of contacting the authors of the Straegy Guide to
see if they know where we can get copies? I would be quite happy to have a
part of my webpage (I have to redesign the old beast) given over to putting
tips from the book on the web, if anyone would like that kind of service
(since the book seems to be unobtainable).

Or (if the copyright holders consider the book to be abandonware) I would be
happy to make a photocopied master that people can request copies of and get
them sent if they pay for the postage (although being in Aus, I think this
might best be done by someone in North America, since the postage for such a
thing from here would be horrendous)

Thoughts?

Paul
List Admin

Couple of notes to add:

The old Dartmouth list has not completely shut down due to laziness of the
owner, me.  It will be shutdown in two weeks though.  I'm revamping my
website to indicate that the players' list is being taken off my website
too.  I suggest that we use the Egroups database feature to indicate who's
interested in playing a game and what type.  There are a lot of interesting
features to the database section and best of all, everyone can edit their
own entry with no lag time.

Paul Gill submitted the following to the Information Beltway:
>Also, has anyone thought of contacting the authors of the Straegy Guide to
>see if they know where we can get copies? I would be quite happy to have a
>part of my webpage (I have to redesign the old beast) given over to putting
>tips from the book on the web, if anyone would like that kind of service
>(since the book seems to be unobtainable).

I had thought about scanning the book and converting to Adobe PDF format,
but it IS against the copyright (75 years after original publication UNLESS
the copyright holders renew it).   We can ask if they are interested in
publishing it as an electronic document with a charge per download though...

>Or (if the copyright holders consider the book to be abandonware) I would be
>happy to make a photocopied master that people can request copies of and get
>them sent if they pay for the postage (although being in Aus, I think this
>might best be done by someone in North America, since the postage for such a
>thing from here would be horrendous)

Dave

I live in the uk and would love to get hold of this guide or download it in
pdf format.
I feel at a disadvantage when playing other empire e-mail players who have
got this guide.
Mall.......yorkie
----- Original Message -----
From: David M. Bott <david.m.bott@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Webrings, Strat Guide etc


> Couple of notes to add:
>
> The old Dartmouth list has not completely shut down due to laziness of the
> owner, me.  It will be shutdown in two weeks though.  I'm revamping my
> website to indicate that the players' list is being taken off my website
> too.  I suggest that we use the Egroups database feature to indicate who's
> interested in playing a game and what type.  There are a lot of
interesting
> features to the database section and best of all, everyone can edit their
> own entry with no lag time.
>
> Paul Gill submitted the following to the Information Beltway:
> >Also, has anyone thought of contacting the authors of the Straegy Guide
to
> >see if they know where we can get copies? I would be quite happy to have
a
> >part of my webpage (I have to redesign the old beast) given over to
putting
> >tips from the book on the web, if anyone would like that kind of service
> >(since the book seems to be unobtainable).
>
> I had thought about scanning the book and converting to Adobe PDF format,
> but it IS against the copyright (75 years after original publication
UNLESS
> the copyright holders renew it).   We can ask if they are interested in
> publishing it as an electronic document with a charge per download
though...
>
> >Or (if the copyright holders consider the book to be abandonware) I would
be
> >happy to make a photocopied master that people can request copies of and
get
> >them sent if they pay for the postage (although being in Aus, I think
this
> >might best be done by someone in North America, since the postage for
such a
> >thing from here would be horrendous)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: mall.smith

To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 12:10 AM

Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Webrings, Strat Guide etc

I live in the uk and would love to get hold of this guide or download it in
pdf format.
I feel at a disadvantage when playing other empire e-mail players who have
got this guide.
Mall.......yorkie
----- Original Message -----
From: David M. Bott <david.m.bott@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Webrings, Strat Guide etc


> Couple of notes to add:
>
> The old Dartmouth list has not completely shut down due to laziness of the
> owner, me.  It will be shutdown in two weeks though.  I'm revamping my
> website to indicate that the players' list is being taken off my website
> too.  I suggest that we use the Egroups database feature to indicate who's
> interested in playing a game and what type.  There are a lot of
interesting
> features to the database section and best of all, everyone can edit their
> own entry with no lag time.
>
> Paul Gill submitted the following to the Information Beltway:
> >Also, has anyone thought of contacting the authors of the Straegy Guide
to
> >see if they know where we can get copies? I would be quite happy to have
a
> >part of my webpage (I have to redesign the old beast) given over to
putting
> >tips from the book on the web, if anyone would like that kind of service
> >(since the book seems to be unobtainable).
>
> I had thought about scanning the book and converting to Adobe PDF format,
> but it IS against the copyright (75 years after original publication
UNLESS
> the copyright holders renew it).   We can ask if they are interested in
> publishing it as an electronic document with a charge per download
though...
>
> >Or (if the copyright holders consider the book to be abandonware) I would
be
> >happy to make a photocopied master that people can request copies of and
get
> >them sent if they pay for the postage (although being in Aus, I think
this
> >might best be done by someone in North America, since the postage for
such a
> >thing from here would be horrendous)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: maucoin@...

To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2000 10:33

Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Empire Deluxe Official Strategy Guide by Alan Emrich

Don't know were your can but the book.  I got mine right after I first bought
Empire.  The combat tables in the back of the book make it valuable.  Good
luck at finding one.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Edwards

To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 11:54 PM

Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Empire Deluxe Official Strategy Guide by Alan Emrich

unsubscribe

----- Original Message -----

From: maucoin@...

To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2000 10:33

Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Empire Deluxe Official Strategy Guide by Alan Emrich

Don't know were your can but the book.  I got mine right after I first bought
Empire.  The combat tables in the back of the book make it valuable.  Good
luck at finding one.

>
> I was thinking that perhaps we should all have the little bit of
HTML at the
> bottom of our pages that allows people to sign up to this list. The
list
> started at around 40 people, when the old dartmouth list shut down,
and now
> is almost into triple figures. And I think we should make it as
easy as
> possible to subscribe for newbies.

Good idea, I'll add it as soon as possible.  Maybe a link to The
Empire Vault could be plae under it ;-).  Could you tell me where I
can find the code?  I've seen it somewhere but where ...

>
> Also, has anyone thought of contacting the authors of the Straegy
Guide to
> see if they know where we can get copies? I would be quite happy to
have a
> part of my webpage (I have to redesign the old beast) given over to
putting
> tips from the book on the web, if anyone would like that kind of
service
> (since the book seems to be unobtainable).

Note, I already have a tips section in the vault.  If you or anybody
else would like to add some tips & trucks, please do so.

I'm currently redesinging the Empire Vault to become a Yahoo type of
index for Empire Deluxe stuff.  With this redesign, I'm also planning
to reintroduce The Game Tracker that was thought up by Charles.  This
would do let you setup games, notify you of game turns, ... all
online (except for playing).  I'm telling this, because I'm wondering
if this would be appreciated.  What does everybody think?  I'm not
going to spent lot's of time if nobody is going to use it.

>
> Or (if the copyright holders consider the book to be abandonware) I
would be
> happy to make a photocopied master that people can request copies
of and get
> them sent if they pay for the postage (although being in Aus, I
think this
> might best be done by someone in North America, since the postage
for such a
> thing from here would be horrendous)
>
> Thoughts?

If you want to put it online, I'm happy to provide some space, if it
becomes abandonware of course.

Andrew
The Empire Vault (www.empire-vault.com)...

the egroups had a code feature built right on the page, look at the promote
feature I think.  a sort of cut and paste.  an example is at my empire page,
http://members.aol.com/dumonsterp.  scroll down a bit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Peiman" <andrew_peiman@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:07 AM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] Re: Webrings, Strat Guide etc


> >
> > I was thinking that perhaps we should all have the little bit of
> HTML at the
> > bottom of our pages that allows people to sign up to this list. The
> list
> > started at around 40 people, when the old dartmouth list shut down,
> and now
> > is almost into triple figures. And I think we should make it as
> easy as
> > possible to subscribe for newbies.
>
> Good idea, I'll add it as soon as possible.  Maybe a link to The
> Empire Vault could be plae under it ;-).  Could you tell me where I
> can find the code?  I've seen it somewhere but where ...
>
> >
> > Also, has anyone thought of contacting the authors of the Straegy
> Guide to
> > see if they know where we can get copies? I would be quite happy to
> have a
> > part of my webpage (I have to redesign the old beast) given over to
> putting
> > tips from the book on the web, if anyone would like that kind of
> service
> > (since the book seems to be unobtainable).
>
> Note, I already have a tips section in the vault.  If you or anybody
> else would like to add some tips & trucks, please do so.
>
> I'm currently redesinging the Empire Vault to become a Yahoo type of
> index for Empire Deluxe stuff.  With this redesign, I'm also planning
> to reintroduce The Game Tracker that was thought up by Charles.  This
> would do let you setup games, notify you of game turns, ... all
> online (except for playing).  I'm telling this, because I'm wondering
> if this would be appreciated.  What does everybody think?  I'm not
> going to spent lot's of time if nobody is going to use it.
>
> >
> > Or (if the copyright holders consider the book to be abandonware) I
> would be
> > happy to make a photocopied master that people can request copies
> of and get
> > them sent if they pay for the postage (although being in Aus, I
> think this
> > might best be done by someone in North America, since the postage
> for such a
> > thing from here would be horrendous)
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> If you want to put it online, I'm happy to provide some space, if it
> becomes abandonware of course.
>
> Andrew
> The Empire Vault (www.empire-vault.com)...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In empire-deluxe@egroups.com, "David M. Bott" <david.m.bott@d...>
wrote:

> too.  I suggest that we use the Egroups database feature to
indicate who's
> interested in playing a game and what type.  There are a lot of
interesting
> features to the database section and best of all, everyone can edit
their
> own entry with no lag time.
>
> Dave

Following Dave's suggestion, I created a sample database at
http://www.egroups.com/database/empire-deluxe with an entry for me.

Before everyone goes filling it in, we should determine all the
required fields and probably have it re-created by the moderator.

Comments?

Arne

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Thanks!

That is very cool, I like your selection of fields.
but I can't edit my entry  :(

--- In empire-deluxe@egroups.com, adastra1960@h... wrote:
> Following Dave's suggestion, I created a sample database at
> http://www.egroups.com/database/empire-deluxe with an entry for me.
>
> Before everyone goes filling it in, we should determine all the
> required fields and probably have it re-created by the moderator.
>
> Comments?
>
> Arne

OK, I reset the table requirements.  There should be a way for each member
to own their record, but since we have to trust each other to play the game,
I guess we have to trust each other not to edit someone else's entry.

I also figured out that date formats are not international, so I changed my
entry.

Thanks,

Arne

>From: general_error404@...
>Reply-To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com
>To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com
>Subject: [empire-deluxe] Active Player List
>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 21:06:44 -0000
>
>That is very cool, I like your selection of fields.
>but I can't edit my entry  :(
>
>--- In empire-deluxe@egroups.com, adastra1960@h... wrote:
> > Following Dave's suggestion, I created a sample database at
> > http://www.egroups.com/database/empire-deluxe with an entry for me.
> >
> > Before everyone goes filling it in, we should determine all the
> > required fields and probably have it re-created by the moderator.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Arne
>

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Clicking on the column heading sorts the row alphabetically.  Thus 0, 1, N,
Y, ?, n, y.  So, please use lower case for the answer to "seeking new game".
   There seems no way to check for valid data.

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empire-deluxe@egroups.com submitted the following to the Information Beltway:
>Following Dave's suggestion, I created a sample database at
>http://www.egroups.com/database/empire-deluxe with an entry for me.
>
>Before everyone goes filling it in, we should determine all the
>required fields and probably have it re-created by the moderator.

A database created by a subscriber can be edited or deleted by a moderator,
so the fact you created it is no big deal for maintenance purposes.

Some suggested fields:

Number of Tournaments in which player participated.

Preferences: such as game type 1) ED Live, 2) EDSecure, 3) multiplayer
games vs. head-to-head
game settings: color preferences if any; what level of production; wrap map
or not; any AI's included.

Also add: estimate of number of turns per week player prefers to play (from
1 to 7).

Time Zone if prefers ED Live

Dave

Does anyone know of that Empire deluxe contact group for ICQ version
2000a?  My ICQ number is 29967008 and my MSN messenger handle is
dumonster.  My empire site is http://members.aol.com/dumonsterp

Hi all,

I've been meaning to follow through on my shutdown of both the EPIG email
list and my ED and E2 PBEM Players' Lists but have been so busy I haven't
done it....until now.

EPIG is officially deleted from the listserver at Dartmouth and is no more.

My website (except for the EPBEM FAQ)  is being scrapped too.  I was going
to offer the Players' List to someone else to maintain, but I realized that
it is over a year and a half old!  Some people have sent me requests to
edit the list, but I haven't followed through.   I have a text copy of the
players and their email addresses (many of which are long abandoned) plus a
whole set of emails asking to be edited or added to the list  if anyone
wishes to use it as a method of developing a new Players' List.  However, I
suggest that it would be more efficient to create a new site or use the
database in egroups rather than try and work from an 18 month old list.

I will be leaving pages up on my website that will show up and indicate
that my website is no longer functional.  The main reason I am writing this
email is to ask the list members for a suggestion of the best website or
websites on ED to use as a link or redirect from my pages.  Each page will
now have text that goes something like:

Sorry, this Empire Deluxe and Empire II website is no longer functional due
to constraints on my time.  There are still many active players of this
venerable strategy game and in fact new software has enabled head-to-head
play over the internet in real time or has allowed the elimination of
security holes which cheaters used to exploit.  I suggest you visit the
websites on ED listed below:
X link
Y link
Z link

    My thought is to direct them to the egroups webpage for this list, to
the ED webring home page and maybe one or two other sites.

Suggestions are welcome.

DAve

There is the Empire Deluxe Vortex...  ICQ# 53543320
I use it to hook on to live games.

         Leo  (Striker)



----- Original Message -----
From: <dumonster@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] icq contact group


> Does anyone know of that Empire deluxe contact group for ICQ version
> 2000a?  My ICQ number is 29967008 and my MSN messenger handle is
> dumonster.  My empire site is http://members.aol.com/dumonsterp
>
>
>
>
>
>

What is EDSecure?


>From: "David M. Bott" <david.m.bott@...>
>
>Preferences: such as game type 1) ED Live, 2) EDSecure, 3) multiplayer
>games vs. head-to-head                        ^^^^^^^^
>
>Dave
>

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Hey all,

The database appears to support a maximum of 10 fields.  I have selected a
set based on the comments I have seen.  If I could get concurrence that it
meets peoples needs, I will invite group memebers to enter a record for
themselves.

A couple notes to make sorting work well:

Just use 'yes' or 'no'; put comments after if desired.
Use a Year-Month-Day format so that old entries can be sorted to the back.

Arne


>From: "David M. Bott" <david.m.bott@...>
>Reply-To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com
>To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Active Player Database
>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:36:22 -0500
>
>empire-deluxe@egroups.com submitted the following to the Information
>Beltway:
> >Following Dave's suggestion, I created a sample database at
> >http://www.egroups.com/database/empire-deluxe with an entry for me.
> >
> >Before everyone goes filling it in, we should determine all the
> >required fields and probably have it re-created by the moderator.
>
>A database created by a subscriber can be edited or deleted by a moderator,
>so the fact you created it is no big deal for maintenance purposes.
>
>Some suggested fields:
>
>Number of Tournaments in which player participated.
>
>Preferences: such as game type 1) ED Live, 2) EDSecure, 3) multiplayer
>games vs. head-to-head
>game settings: color preferences if any; what level of production; wrap map
>or not; any AI's included.
>
>Also add: estimate of number of turns per week player prefers to play (from
>1 to 7).
>
>Time Zone if prefers ED Live
>
>Dave
>

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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:18:25 -0800
   From: "Arnold Larson" <adastra1960@...>
Subject: EDSecure?

What is EDSecure?

Replay cheats

Odds cheats

Resignation cheats

Game mirroring cheats

etc..

Extensive options

Mail enabled (via Plugins)

Turn reminders

Game notes

Color preferences

Combat calculator

Production calculator

Password keeper

Forced player resignation in multi-player games

Full tournament generation and tracking

Ability to convert existing game to a secured format

Ability to automate existing games

Hi.  Would like to take a look at EDSecure, but the link you provided will
not allow me to find it.  Could you check and let me know if there is one
that will?
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I'm interested in Playing a game via email.

Johan

--- In empire-deluxe@egroups.com, "Rimfire" <rimfire@c...> wrote:
> Hello fellas,
> Anyone one feel up to a one on one game of ED via email?
>
> Rimfire

Have you played via email before?
  Do you want to set it up or do you want me to?

Rimfire

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Dingenen [mailto:johan_dingenen@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:18 AM
To: empire-deluxe@egroups.com
Subject: [empire-deluxe] Re: A Game?


I'm interested in Playing a game via email.

Johan

--- In empire-deluxe@egroups.com, "Rimfire" <rimfire@c...> wrote:
> Hello fellas,
> Anyone one feel up to a one on one game of ED via email?
>
> Rimfire