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#2328 From: "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What kind of Maps do you enjoy? 		mok_at_kille...
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Skip sent me the following question:

Matthias sent out a large city.nam file to the Yahoo Group. Page 220 of the ED Strategy Guide says that the *.nam files can only handle 300 twenty-character entries (twelve-character for computer players). Is that still true? What if you used a list of over 1000 names?

When the Black City Bug  and long city name bug could not be traced, I had to rewrite the name code to change it so I could be confident it would not happen in EDIE. I increased the limit from 300 to 32500. I am sure sooner or later you might encounter some memory issues depending on your hardware available, but the number of acceptable names in a file have been increase...slightly.

I believe this is also good for all other name files as well. Sorry this is not listed as a 'feature'. Never thought about it, but now I guess I should have mentioned it somewhere.

--Mark

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Matthias
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Re: What kind of Maps do you enjoy?

Steve (Gryphin) wrote:

> > Until EIDE the map size was too small for me to create an semi-
> ideal
> > world. Mark asked me a while ago what I am going to do when he
> > creates a game that allows (almost) unlimited world size. The
> current
> > limitation (254x254) is actually too small (!) to design something
> I
> > have been thinking about. I fear that the AI will change in the
> next
> > EI game and this will have to change how I make maps so maybe
> never.
> > Imagine taking 200 turns of unimpeded exploration and conquest
> before
> > finding that the next continent and island sets are over 80 units
> > away. I would like to play this game.

ED Maps will not be too large until we get to the point where we can put
together an Earth map large enough so that the units are actually to scale.





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#2329 From: "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2003 10:09 pm
Subject: EDIE Patch now available and "open" EDIE issues 		mok_at_kille...
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Hi all,
 
EDIE has now been upgraded to version 3.513. It is available from http://killerbeesoftware.com
 
 
As Internet play has become more popular, some flaws in the way the network play is handled have appeared. Please remember that EDIE is based from the old source code, and there do seem to be some inherent flaws in the way human to human play is done and has been done from the beginning when ED was first built long ago.
 
There are a few issues that are considered "open", and these will remain so most likely indefinitely. These are issues revolve mostly around the restarting of a previously saved multiplayer game. It is known that the slave player on a restart will not have his last turn's recon report and combat report. It is also known that if a network game is not saved by the current active player, it is possible for the player who was active at the time of the save to have an opportunity to move units previously moved  on that turn after that turn on the restart of the game.
 
To avoid such problems, it is recommended that when a multiplayer network game is saved, it is done so by the Master player at the beginning of his turn.
 
 
These issues will remain 'open' because in order to repair them, fundamental changes must be done to the program itself, which are not feasible if not possible.
 
The issues encountered in ED and EDIE in this regard, will not occur in EDEE, because as most of you have read,  EDEE is a redesign of the entire architecture from the ground up, with multi-play and larger game capabilities in mind.
 
 
This in no way means I am stopping support of EDIE. I continue to solicit your experiences when something goes wrong in the game, and hope to get them fixed for you. Those of you that have reported issues to me know I try my best to get them fixed, even if they are minor. Sometimes things are hard to track down, and the more information you can give me, including saved games, the more productive I can be towards fixing them. My email is mok@... .
 
As always, anyone with questions or comments feel from to drop me a line.
 
--Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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#2330 From: "Michael Mendelsohn" <yahoo@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2003 1:07 pm
Subject: Testing your expansion speed 		yahoo@...
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Hi!

I played out an empire deluxe game against the AI for an aquaintance
to be able to test his expansion speed at Adv3 handicap. I am posting
this here on the assumption that some of you are interested in
checking out theirs. I am sure my expansion isn't perfect yet;
however, the recorded times are of my first attempt. I would love to
learn your times; if you send them to me by private email, I will
summarize to the list in a few days.

Testempo.svg tests your expansion speed. Use Empire Deluxe V3.11 or
3.12 to load (not EDIE).
It's a standard random map, 80x60,
played at Adv3 against 1 expert AI.
After turn 30, I had 11 cities.
After turn 36, I made contact with the AI; I had 23 cities.
After turn 40, I had 35 cities.
After turn 45, the AI resigned.
I held 50 cities and saw 81% of the map.

mendel

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#2331 From: "David E " <muns_de@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2003 12:21 am
Subject: New file uploaded 		muns_de
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Re-zipped the large maps. Now all five che maps in 1 zip file;
"che maps.zip"

The maps are designed for 6-player (you and five computer opponents).
Very large (254x254) maps. Should provide many many hours of
exploration and conquest.

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#2332 From: "Steve (Gryphin)" <gryphin_4x_gamer@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2003 4:09 am
Subject: Re: New file uploaded 		gryphin_4x_g...
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Dave,
"should provide ..."
"Should"? you are far to modest.
They *will* provide.
Thanks again,
Steve aka Gryphin
--- In empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com, "David E " <muns_de@y...>
wrote:
> Re-zipped the large maps. Now all five che maps in 1 zip file;
> "che maps.zip"
>
> The maps are designed for 6-player (you and five computer
opponents).
> Very large (254x254) maps. Should provide many many hours of
> exploration and conquest.

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#2333 From: "winkyjr2000" <tdce@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2003 6:29 pm
Subject: (No subject) 		winkyjr2000
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Greetings!
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#2334 From: "Arnold Larson" <adastra1960@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: (unknown) 		adastra1960
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winky,

Sending a link to an empty site is a little ridiculous.  Sending an email
addressed to all the names you can find from the group is STUPID.  It will
get you ignored.

If and when you actually have anything would be the time to post it, with a
meaningful subject perhaps?

A


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>Subject: [empire-deluxe] (unknown)
>Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:29:36 -0000
>
>Greetings!
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#2335 From: "zedzardoz" <zardoz@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 5:18 pm
Subject: mirror maps for edie 		zedzardoz
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I recently created a 30x40 map in 3.11 format and then tried to
convert it into a mirror map using the mirror3 and Mark's mirror
utility posted here prior to the release of EDIE.

The batch files worked without any error in opening the map.   But the
result was unusable, as the utility could not find ANY cities in the
original map.  Thus the resulting mirror map also had zero cities.

Anyone have a tried and true method of obtaining mirror maps for
EDIE?

General ZeD

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#2336 From: "mok_at_killerbeesoftware" <mok@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: mirror maps for edie 		mok_at_kille...
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Zed,

The symmap program was a hack made many years ago without real
knowledge of exactly the correct file format. . It's amazing it works
for 3.11. Trying to convert the maps to EDIE will fail, for they are
not 100% correct.

However, EDIE has the symmetrical map featurs built into the editor.
SO its easy to make sym maps for EDIE. You in fact get a lot more
choices as to how you want the maps made. Check it out.

--Mark

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#2337 From: "Arnold Larson" <adastra1960@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: mirror maps for edie 		adastra1960
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I wanted the same mirrored maps for ED 3.11 and EDIE for the tournament, but
I had the same problem.  However, Spud sent me a map that converted just
fine, so there must be different versions of the mirror utility out there.
I solved the problem for myself by keeping the original 3.11 map before
mirroring it for 3.11, converting it to EDIE and then mirroring it again for
EDIE.

Arne


>From: "zedzardoz" <zardoz@...>
>Reply-To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
>To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [empire-deluxe] mirror maps for edie
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:18:17 -0000
>
>I recently created a 30x40 map in 3.11 format and then tried to
>convert it into a mirror map using the mirror3 and Mark's mirror
>utility posted here prior to the release of EDIE.
>
>The batch files worked without any error in opening the map.   But the
>result was unusable, as the utility could not find ANY cities in the
>original map.  Thus the resulting mirror map also had zero cities.
>
>Anyone have a tried and true method of obtaining mirror maps for
>EDIE?
>
>General ZeD
>
>
>
>
>
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#2338 From: spud@...
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 7:20 pm
Subject: RE: mirror maps for edie 		spud3700
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General Zeb and anyone else.

Let me know if you would like a copy of the mirror utility I used in the
example Arne is speaking about.

The only thing I can think of that may be special about it is it is the
version modified by General Error to make quadrant as well as north/south
and east/west mirrors.

I am not sure which version is posted to the yahoo groups site.

spud

-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold Larson [mailto:adastra1960@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:56 PM
To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] mirror maps for edie


I wanted the same mirrored maps for ED 3.11 and EDIE for the tournament, but
I had the same problem.  However, Spud sent me a map that converted just
fine, so there must be different versions of the mirror utility out there.
I solved the problem for myself by keeping the original 3.11 map before
mirroring it for 3.11, converting it to EDIE and then mirroring it again for
EDIE.

Arne


>From: "zedzardoz" <zardoz@...>
>Reply-To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
>To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [empire-deluxe] mirror maps for edie
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:18:17 -0000
>
>I recently created a 30x40 map in 3.11 format and then tried to
>convert it into a mirror map using the mirror3 and Mark's mirror
>utility posted here prior to the release of EDIE.
>
>The batch files worked without any error in opening the map.   But the
>result was unusable, as the utility could not find ANY cities in the
>original map.  Thus the resulting mirror map also had zero cities.
>
>Anyone have a tried and true method of obtaining mirror maps for
>EDIE?
>
>General ZeD
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

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#2339 From: "Randy.Rick" <steyrhahn@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: mirror maps for edie 		steyrhahn
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I did the same thing as Arne when I created a map for the tournament.

I created 10 maps with v3.12, mirrored them picked out the best one.
And then converted it to EDIE so the same map could be used by both
V3.1x and v3.5x players.

No problem.


--- Arnold Larson <adastra1960@...> wrote:
> I wanted the same mirrored maps for ED 3.11 and EDIE for the
> tournament, but
> I had the same problem.  However, Spud sent me a map that converted
> just
> fine, so there must be different versions of the mirror utility out
> there.
> I solved the problem for myself by keeping the original 3.11 map
> before
> mirroring it for 3.11, converting it to EDIE and then mirroring it
> again for
> EDIE.
>
> Arne
>
>
> >From: "zedzardoz" <zardoz@...>
> >Reply-To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> >To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [empire-deluxe] mirror maps for edie
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:18:17 -0000
> >
> >I recently created a 30x40 map in 3.11 format and then tried to
> >convert it into a mirror map using the mirror3 and Mark's mirror
> >utility posted here prior to the release of EDIE.
> >
> >The batch files worked without any error in opening the map.   But
> the
> >result was unusable, as the utility could not find ANY cities in
> the
> >original map.  Thus the resulting mirror map also had zero cities.
> >
> >Anyone have a tried and true method of obtaining mirror maps for
> >EDIE?
> >
> >General ZeD
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#2340 From: "Randy.Rick" <steyrhahn@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 2:22 am
Subject: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches 		steyrhahn
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Ever since I applied the latest MS parches for W2000, if I leave
EDv3.12 on my system, I notice that my system clock will slow down
about 30 minutes per day. If I run task manager, ED appears to be
consuming about 98% of my cpu clock time (866mhz Pent-III)

Is anyone else seeing this?

I'm certain this only happens if ED is present, irregardless of
whether or not I'm actively playing a game.

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#2341 From: "Steven Woodcock" <wyrdhaven@...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:16 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches 		theferretman
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I'm not seeing it myself...that's weird.

Steve

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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] system clock slowdown after applying latest MS
patches


> Ever since I applied the latest MS parches for W2000, if I leave
> EDv3.12 on my system, I notice that my system clock will slow down
> about 30 minutes per day. If I run task manager, ED appears to be
> consuming about 98% of my cpu clock time (866mhz Pent-III)
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?
>
> I'm certain this only happens if ED is present, irregardless of
> whether or not I'm actively playing a game.
>
> steyrhahn

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#2342 From: "John H. Boyd" <JohnHBoyd@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 4:18 am
Subject: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patch 		johnhboyd2001
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Yes,  ED consumes LOTS of the CPU cycles.

Try playing it on a laptop on batteries some day <Grin>.



John Boyd

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#2343 From: "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 4:21 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patch 		mok_at_kille...
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3.12 will eat all the cpu that's idle while in a game. It never "sleeps" so to speak.
 
--Mark
 
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:18 PM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patch

Yes,  ED consumes LOTS of the CPU cycles.

Try playing it on a laptop on batteries some day <Grin>.



John Boyd


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#2344 From: "Randy.Rick" <steyrhahn@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 4:39 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patch 		steyrhahn
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I never had a problem with my system clock before.

Its easy to show that ED is the cause.

If I leave ED v3.12 on the system, the next morning my clock will be
15 minutes slow. If I don't leave ED on my system, the clock is still
on time.

This was not a problem before I applied the latest patches. (having
left ED active and ready to play on machines for many years).


--- "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
wrote:
> 3.12 will eat all the cpu that's idle while in a game. It never
> "sleeps" so to speak.
>
> --Mark
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John H. Boyd
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>   Subject: [empire-deluxe] system clock slowdown after applying
> latest MS patch
>
>
>   Yes,  ED consumes LOTS of the CPU cycles.
>
>   Try playing it on a laptop on batteries some day <Grin>.
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#2345 From: "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 4:49 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patch 		mok_at_kille...
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You may look back to the messages on this forum in May, a couple of users reported EDIE falling the clocks on Windows 98 boxes (I think). This was a known problem with Microsoft and I think atomic clock solutions were discussed in the thread. You might review it.
 
Of course, 2000 is not supposed to have that issue ;>
 
--Mark
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy.Rick
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patch

I never had a problem with my system clock before.

Its easy to show that ED is the cause.

If I leave ED v3.12 on the system, the next morning my clock will be
15 minutes slow. If I don't leave ED on my system, the clock is still
on time.

This was not a problem before I applied the latest patches. (having
left ED active and ready to play on machines for many years).


--- "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
wrote:
> 3.12 will eat all the cpu that's idle while in a game. It never
> "sleeps" so to speak.
>
> --Mark
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John H. Boyd
>   To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:18 PM
>   Subject: [empire-deluxe] system clock slowdown after applying
> latest MS patch
>
>
>   Yes,  ED consumes LOTS of the CPU cycles.
>
>   Try playing it on a laptop on batteries some day <Grin>.
>
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#2346 From: "Michael Mendelsohn" <yahoo@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 8:23 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches 		yahoo@...
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Hi!

Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?

On 6 Nov 2003 , Randy.Rick wrote about [empire-deluxe] system clock
slowdo:
> Ever since I applied the latest MS parches for W2000, if I leave
> EDv3.12 on my system, I notice that my system clock will slow down
> about 30 minutes per day.

Hmmm, what do MinisculeSoft say about that?

> If I run task manager, ED appears to be
> consuming about 98% of my cpu clock time (866mhz Pent-III)

A simple workaround is to open "Player History"; this is a regular
windows form that doesn't consume much CPU and might not preempt the
clock as much. If in a game, open up Status Report or Information on
any tile. (Of course, that advice is sort of useless if you fall
asleep at the computer... ;)

I am running Win95 and use System Monitor to determine CPU usage; I
also have a radio-controlled clock sitting on my desk (and the
Windows task bar hidden).

Cheers
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#2347 From: Matthias <matthias_mls@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches 		matthias_mls
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Michael Mendelsohn wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?

Reference: steyrhahn@...

There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a city
in Austria. They make the Steyr AUG automatic rifle, among other sorts
of firearms.

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#2348 From: "Dan Keelean" <dankeelean@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 10:52 pm
Subject: Does a PDA-friendly Version of ED Exist? 		dankeelean
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Just wondering.  Help pass the time on those long plane trips and car
rides.  Not to mention subways...

djk

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#2349 From: "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: Does a PDA-friendly Version of ED Exist? 		mok_at_kille...
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Not yet. But there are plans to have one in the future.
 
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Just wondering.  Help pass the time on those long plane trips and car
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#2350 From: "Steven Woodcock" <wyrdhaven@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 3:50 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MSpatches 		theferretman
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> > Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?
>
> Reference: steyrhahn@...
>
> There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a city
> in Austria. They make the Steyr AUG automatic rifle, among other sorts
> of firearms.

     An excellent firearm as well I might add, though not to my liking. I'm
more an AK-47 kind of guy.

Steve

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#2351 From: "Randy.Rick" <steyrhahn@...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 4:42 am
Subject: Re: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches 		steyrhahn
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Well yes, thats the origon of my empire player name.

Actually the firearms company is no longer in the city of Steyr,
Austria.

To see who I really am, and other interests besides playing Empire:

http://home.alltel.net/randyric/

Hopefully this won't result in any attacks on my domicile from
battleships from empire players.


--- Matthias <matthias_mls@...> wrote:
> Michael Mendelsohn wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?
>
> Reference: steyrhahn@...
>
> There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a
> city
> in Austria. They make the Steyr AUG automatic rifle, among other
> sorts
> of firearms.
>
>
>
>


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#2352 From: "Michael Mendelsohn" <yahoo@...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 7:31 am
Subject: [OT] Steyr (was: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches) 		yahoo@...
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Hi!

On 7 Nov 2003 , Randy.Rick wrote about Re: [empire-deluxe] system
clock sl:
> Hopefully this won't result in any attacks on my domicile from
> battleships from empire players.

Hmm, gun owners often sound a bit paranoid.... ;)

> --- Matthias <matthias_mls@...> wrote:
> > Michael Mendelsohn wrote:
> > > Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?
> > Reference: steyrhahn@...
> > There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a
> > city in Austria.

I'm not interested in firearms...

"City in Austria" could be it.
http://www.steyr.at/

Also, there's this:
http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/sdp_index.htm
http://www.steyr-puch.de/ (click on "Fotos")
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppzcad/haf.html

Hmm, the Steyr logo looks as if it'd make a good ED map... ;)

Cheers
mendel
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#2353 From: "Steven Woodcock" <wyrdhaven@...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Steyr (was: system clock slowdown after applying latest MS patches) 		theferretman
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I'm not paranoid!

     Who said I'm paranoid?!?!?!?!?!

     <grin>

Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Mendelsohn" <yahoo@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:31 AM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] [OT] Steyr (was: system clock slowdown after
applying latest MS patches)


Hi!

On 7 Nov 2003 , Randy.Rick wrote about Re: [empire-deluxe] system
clock sl:
> Hopefully this won't result in any attacks on my domicile from
> battleships from empire players.

Hmm, gun owners often sound a bit paranoid.... ;)

> --- Matthias <matthias_mls@...> wrote:
> > Michael Mendelsohn wrote:
> > > Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?
> > Reference: steyrhahn@...
> > There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a
> > city in Austria.

I'm not interested in firearms...

"City in Austria" could be it.
http://www.steyr.at/

Also, there's this:
http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/sdp_index.htm
http://www.steyr-puch.de/ (click on "Fotos")
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppzcad/haf.html

Hmm, the Steyr logo looks as if it'd make a good ED map... ;)

Cheers
mendel
--
The beginning starts in the middle, and the end suddenly stops.
"Der Anfang fängt in der Mitte an, und das Ende hört plötzlich auf."
   -- zitiert auf http://www.meocom-online.de/home/sabseb/zl.html





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#2354 From: Matthias <matthias_mls@...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Steyr 		matthias_mls
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Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you ...


Steven Woodcock wrote:

>     I'm not paranoid!
>
>     Who said I'm paranoid?!?!?!?!?!
>
>     <grin>
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Mendelsohn" <yahoo@...>
> To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:31 AM
> Subject: [empire-deluxe] [OT] Steyr (was: system clock slowdown after
> applying latest MS patches)
>
>
> Hi!
>
> On 7 Nov 2003 , Randy.Rick wrote about Re: [empire-deluxe] system
> clock sl:
> > Hopefully this won't result in any attacks on my domicile from
> > battleships from empire players.
>
> Hmm, gun owners often sound a bit paranoid.... ;)
>
> > --- Matthias <matthias_mls@...> wrote:
> > > Michael Mendelsohn wrote:
> > > > Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?
> > > Reference: steyrhahn@...
> > > There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a
> > > city in Austria.
>
> I'm not interested in firearms...
>
> "City in Austria" could be it.
> http://www.steyr.at/
>
> Also, there's this:
> http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/sdp_index.htm
> http://www.steyr-puch.de/ (click on "Fotos")
> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppzcad/haf.html
> <http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/%7Eppzcad/haf.html>
>
> Hmm, the Steyr logo looks as if it'd make a good ED map... ;)
>
> Cheers
> mendel
> --
> The beginning starts in the middle, and the end suddenly stops.
> "Der Anfang fängt in der Mitte an, und das Ende hört plötzlich auf."
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#2355 From: "Arnold Larson" <adastra1960@...>
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:41 am
Subject: Re: back on topic 		adastra1960
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Steve aka Ferretman aka Bunbury,

I AM out to get you, but I think I will let it wait until tomorrow since you
have probably gone to bed now anyway.

A


>From: "Steven Woodcock" <wyrdhaven@...>
>Reply-To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
>To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] [OT] Steyr (was: system clock slowdown after
>applying latest MS patches)
>Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:04:20 -0700
>
>     I'm not paranoid!
>
>     Who said I'm paranoid?!?!?!?!?!
>
>     <grin>
>
>Steve
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Mendelsohn" <yahoo@...>
>To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:31 AM
>Subject: [empire-deluxe] [OT] Steyr (was: system clock slowdown after
>applying latest MS patches)
>
>
>Hi!
>
>On 7 Nov 2003 , Randy.Rick wrote about Re: [empire-deluxe] system
>clock sl:
> > Hopefully this won't result in any attacks on my domicile from
> > battleships from empire players.
>
>Hmm, gun owners often sound a bit paranoid.... ;)
>
> > --- Matthias <matthias_mls@...> wrote:
> > > Michael Mendelsohn wrote:
> > > > Why do I always think of Austria when I read your nick?
> > > Reference: steyrhahn@...
> > > There is an Austrian firearms company called Steyr, named after a
> > > city in Austria.
>
>I'm not interested in firearms...
>
>"City in Austria" could be it.
>http://www.steyr.at/
>
>Also, there's this:
>http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/sdp_index.htm
>http://www.steyr-puch.de/ (click on "Fotos")
>http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppzcad/haf.html
>
>Hmm, the Steyr logo looks as if it'd make a good ED map... ;)
>
>Cheers
>mendel
>--
>The beginning starts in the middle, and the end suddenly stops.
>"Der Anfang fängt in der Mitte an, und das Ende hört plötzlich auf."
>   -- zitiert auf http://www.meocom-online.de/home/sabseb/zl.html
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#2356 From: "gueretc" <dumonster@...>
Date: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:38 am
Subject: help 		gueretc
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In the last few months, I get a 4 mm vertical line that appears
through the game down the left centre part of the screen.  I play the
DOS version.  I have not made any hardware or software changes to my
system and it seems to only affect empire deluxe.  I can't play the
windows version.  I've tested other old DOS games and nothing
happens.  I've reinstalled the video drivers and run econfig several
times adjusting the settings.  I run Win Me with an 8Mb ATI Rage AGP
video card.  Has anyone run across this before or has any suggestions?

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#2357 From: "Mark Kinkead @ Killer Bee Software" <mok@...>
Date: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:02 am
Subject: Re: help 		mok_at_kille...
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You should check out the new version, Empire Deluxe Internet Edition. There's a demo at http://killerbeesoftware.com It runs on ME.
 
--Mark
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: gueretc
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:38 PM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] help

In the last few months, I get a 4 mm vertical line that appears
through the game down the left centre part of the screen.  I play the
DOS version.  I have not made any hardware or software changes to my
system and it seems to only affect empire deluxe.  I can't play the
windows version.  I've tested other old DOS games and nothing
happens.  I've reinstalled the video drivers and run econfig several
times adjusting the settings.  I run Win Me with an 8Mb ATI Rage AGP
video card.  Has anyone run across this before or has any suggestions?



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