y>
> On 30 Dec 2004, at 12:02, Janusz A. Urbanowicz wrote:
> > BTW: Is 'Uttati Asfet' any good? I've seen it few times on Internet
> > auctions
> > here.

> You may be able to get it cheaper than second hand as Chaosium have now
> got it on DrivethruRPG.com.
>
> http://www.drivethrurpg.com/catalog/product_info.php?
> cPath=74_79&products_id=1656
>
> That's if you're happy downloading 30.5Mb!

I once tried to set-up the publisher's DRM requirements software on my
Windows-dedicated machine (my main computer runs non-Windowos OS that I use
to make a living and to do most of my computing) and after a long and
covoluted process of installations, registrations and non-working log-ins I
gave up. Unless I  really have to use this to get some information (like,
Pagan would rerelease DGEOs in this form) I quit using the stuff.

And I still prefer dead trees form of some information, it is really
hard to make casual readings of RPG materials from a computer as it is
usually typeset in multiple columns which makes it unfit to read page a time
from the screen - fitting page height makes font small and unreadable,
fitting width requires to scroll page back and forth to read, which calls for
lenghty partial page redraws. If I could slap the whole thing for printer to
read on paper - but I guess printing is disabled and the cost would be more
than the original book anyway.

Not to all would-be PDF typesetters: if you intend the result PDF to be read
onscreen, DO NOT typeset it in multiple columns page layout.

Sidenote, since my players are highly technical, I once had 1.5 notebook per
person ratio on a session, and this REALLY disrupts gameplay. In the end I
was forced to take down internet uplink for home LAN to get game going. Since
then I allow only one active computer on a session, used for taking quick,
persistent notes by PC party (and to collect witty and funny quotations from
some campaigns). But rest of the stuff, including character sheets is to be
done on paper exclusively. It really goes better that way.

Alex
--
mors ab alto
0x46399138

Has anyone here had much of a chance to use US CDC (Center for Disease
Control) quarantines in a Delta Green scenario?  What are your
experiences with how player characters responded to being caught up in it?

found this on Aint it Cool News this morning. I definitely want to
see the second volume of the HPL collection. Sounds cool.

http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19063

"Volume 2 of the H.P. Lovecraft Collection will be Rough Magik, a
proposed BBC pilot created by Stephen Parsons (composer for
Howling II) starring Paul Darrow of Blake's 7 fame. If you like the
idea behind Delta Green you'll love this film. The Night Scholars,
a clandestine organization setup to monitor the ancient cult of
Cthulhu come to a single, incontrovertible, conclusion after
compiling an enormous database of arcane information: the
Sleeping God is waking. Diana Armitage, with the help of her
Home Office liaison, the mysterious Mr. Moon (Paul Darrow),
launch an aggressive campaign against the Dreamers. This
operation designated the Rough Magik initiative is successful
but they trod on the toes of some powerful people, amidst
accusations of financial impropriety and possible treason, and
the Night Scholars were disbanded. Now years later, the old
magic is returning, the Sleeping God is rising, and there are
more Dreamers than Mr. Moon can handle as he struggles to
rebuild the Night Scholars before its too late. The DVD will also
include Bob Fugger's Terrible Old Man (shown on CBC, Bravo!
and Space: The Imagination Station) and From Beyond. Street
Date is December 1, 2004. "

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 11:42:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
geninx3m2@... writes:

found  this on Aint it Cool News this morning. I definitely want to
see the  second volume of the HPL collection. Sounds  cool.






So what was the FIRST volume of the HPL collection?



The Thug  Whisperer

"Back off man. I'm a scientist."
----- Peter  Venkman


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In dglist@yahoogroups.com, Bomias1@a... wrote:
>
> So what was the FIRST volume of the HPL collection?

Well, i didnt want to post the whole article, but... YOU ASKED
FOR IT.

Announcing the H.P. Lovecraft Collection on DVD based on films
shown at the H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival over the last 10 years.
Volume 1 contains Bryan Moore's Cool Air starring Jack Donner
(Star Trek, Mission Impossible, Stigmata, Exorcism) a moving
adaptation of Lovecraft's short story. The disk also contains
many shorts such as Christian Matzke's Nyarlatotep and An
Imperfect Solution (based on the original Re-animator series)
and Anthony Reed's The Hound and The Hapless Antiquarian.
Rounding the disk off are exclusive interviews with the cast and
crew of Cool Air, an interview with Lovecraft scholar S.T. Joshi,
bumpers from the H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival and a couple of
Easter Eggs. Approximately 150 minutes of goodies. Available
now.

snip

Volume 3 of the H.P. Lovecraft Collection, we are extremely
pleased to announce, will be releasing Out of Mind (shown on
Bravo!) along with John Strysik's (a Tales from the Darkside staff
director) The Music of Erich Zann and Aaron Vanek's The
Outsider. Out of Mind offers the viewer a realistic encounter with
Lovecraft and enters into his world. The film playfully winks at
some of the themes characteristic of his HPL's work (the occult,
cursed books, monstrous creatures, ancestry and the cosmos)
and draws its inspiration from Lovecraft's personal
correspondence and many of his stories, carrying the viewer
through a labyrinth "beyond the wall of sleep." We plan to release
the DVD by January of 2005.

We have 4 other titles in the works as well.


LurkerFilms.Com

The headline says it all: Top Ten Arab and Iranian Conspiracy Theories
Ending 2004
(http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0105/memri_top_10_conspiracies.php3).

> 6) Israel Stealing Body Parts of Palestinian Children: Iran's
	    Sahar 1 TV is currently airing a weekly series that
	    premiered on December 13 called "Zahra's Blue Eyes." The
	    show includes graphic scenes of Palestinian children whose
	    eyes have been surgically removed and stolen by Israel.

That certainly stirs the creative juices doesn't it? Perhaps MJ-12 and the
cookbook are at work...

In any event, I think that any of these conspiracies could find a home in
the right DG (or Cthulhu Now) campaign. What do you guys think?

Later.

James D. Collins
Painted Frog Productions

>found this on Aint it Cool News this morning. I definitely want to
>see the second volume of the HPL collection. Sounds cool.
>
>http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19063
>
>"Volume 2 of the H.P. Lovecraft Collection will be Rough Magik, a
>proposed BBC pilot created by Stephen Parsons (composer for
>Howling II) starring Paul Darrow of Blake's 7 fame.

Okay, Avon is in it. That's all I need to know. I want it. : D_

J

Message: 4
    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:47:30 EST
    From: Bomias1@...
Subject: Re: HPL Film News


In a message dated 1/3/2005 11:42:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
geninx3m2@... writes:

found  th
>s on Aint it Cool News this morning. I definitely want to
see the  second volume of the HPL collection. Sounds  cool.






So what was the FIRST volume of the HPL collection?



The Thug  Whisperer

"Back off man. I'm a scientist."

>---- Peter  Venkman




COOL AIR, containing "Cool Air", "Nyarlathotep" and something else that
eludes me at the moment. Haven't seen it yet.

And the THIRD volume will contain "Out of Mind". Yup, that's right, the
incredible "Out of Mind", finally on dvd! :)

Yrs
Martin

If it's MJ12 / COOKBOOK conspiracies you're after, the number one
conspiracy on that page seems more interesting:

"1) U.S. Soldiers Stealing Organs from Iraqis: In the Saudi daily
Al-Watan on December 22, an article by Fakhriya Ahmad alleges that,
based on European secret military reports, U.S. personnel in Iraq are
stealing human organs: "The reports confirm the finding of tens of
thousands of mutilated cadavers missing parts… These teams offer $40
for every usable kidney and $25 for an eye…" The report also appeared
in the Syrian daily Teshreen and in Iran's Jomhour-ye Islami."

But more interesting is the religious terrorist mindset.  Very
applicable to mythos cult design.

Did muslims do something horrible and unpopular? Why, of course not!
It must be Jews.
( see "7) Jews Were Behind the September 1st-3rd Chechen Beslan School
Attack" and "3) U.S./Jews Behind the October 7th Taba Attacks in
Egypt" ).

Does living in filth spread disease... why yes, but muslims of course
don't live in filth... yet they have disease... must be a plot by the
enemies of Islam! ( see "9) Zionists Spreading Diseases Amongst
Arabs", perhaps also "2) Israel Killed Yasser Arafat").

Parts of your Holy book don't match with what you think is right?
Jewish plot, that ( see "5) Jews Tamper with The Koran").

And don't forget to inspire fear.  If your followers are terrified,
they'll obey ( see "4) U.S. To Invade Pakistan and Annihilate Muslims"
and the organ theft stories).

So what do we have?
1) Anything bad that happens is a plot by your enemies.
2) The leaders are infalliable; any evidence to the contrary is the
work of your enemies.
3) Horrific stories are good, with or without evidence.  They inspire
your followers to bloodthirsty actions out of fear of what the Enemy
will do to them if they're captured.

And all this without having to use a summoning ritual.  Combine this
being able to shake hands ( or hand to tentacle as apropo ) with your
God; no wonder cultists follow their leader unto death.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:20:27 -0800, James Collins and/or Sarah Wood
<collwood@...> wrote:

<snip>
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0105/memri_top_10_conspiracies.php3
</snip>

<snip>
> That certainly stirs the creative juices doesn't it? Perhaps MJ-12 and the
> cookbook are at work...
>
> In any event, I think that any of these conspiracies could find a home in
> the right DG (or Cthulhu Now) campaign. What do you guys think?
</snip>

>So what do we have?
>1) Anything bad that happens is a plot by your enemies.
>2) The leaders are infalliable; any evidence to the contrary is the
>work of your enemies.
>3) Horrific stories are good, with or without evidence.

http://www.frontpagemag.com has followed these rules for years : )

J

Sorry for me replying to something that had already been answered -- that's
what you get when you're in digest mode. :)

Yrs
Martin

got the link through cypherpunk news:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27826-2004Dec26?language=printer

here is the beginning for tease:

Jet Is an Open Secret in Terror War

By Dana Priest
  Washington Post Staff Writer
  Monday, December 27, 2004; Page A01

  The airplane is a Gulfstream V turbojet, the sort favored by CEOs and
celebrities. But since 2001 it has been seen at military airports from
Pakistan to Indonesia to Jordan, sometimes being boarded by hooded and
handcuffed passengers.

  The plane's owner of record, Premier Executive Transport Services Inc.,
lists directors and officers who appear to exist only on paper. And each
one of those directors and officers has a recently issued Social Security
number and an address consisting only of a post office box, according to an
extensive search of state, federal and commercial records.

Alex
--
mors ab alto
0x46399138

Greetings.

Something is very wrong in Japan.

Just point your browsers here...

http://www.yamabuki.sakura.ne.jp/~ilek-vad/hpl/cg/index.htm

Do not mind if you can't make any sense of the Japanese.
Just scroll down to the table marked CG, and check out the graphics.

Something is very wrong in Japan.

Davide Mana
Torino, Italy

--- Davide Mana <davide.mana@...> wrote:
> Something is very wrong in Japan.

I think I scared my hamster, I was laughing so loud. Oh man. I
loved the Elder Thing girl, wearing a barrel.

Dave



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David Farnell wrote:

> I think I scared my hamster, I was laughing so loud. Oh man. I
> loved the Elder Thing girl, wearing a barrel.

   And what's with the sleeping Elder Thing being stalked by
knife-wielding ghost penguins?

   And the dick-girl Tsathoggua wearing glasses?

   And the Hound of Tindalos looks like a negative Hello Kitty of Tindalos.

   Check the last one of Cthulhu and Shubby dick-girls with festive
ribbons around their...

The horror! The horror!

Mark McFadden
   Y'know, there *is* a lot of mercury in fish these days.

In a message dated 1/5/2005 7:11:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davide.mana@... writes:

http://www.yamabuki.sakura.ne.jp/~ilek-vad/hpl/cg/index.htm


That is.......so......so.....so....so......very wrong.  I want to tear  my
eye balls out after seeing such mind numbing cuteness.

Paul


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Oh come on now. All those years of little schoolgirls getting violated by
tentacle demons, and you didn't expect offspring?

Pete
   ----- Original Message -----
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   To: dglist@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13 PM
   Subject: Re: [dglist] Chibi Mythos



   In a message dated 1/5/2005 7:11:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
   davide.mana@... writes:

   http://www.yamabuki.sakura.ne.jp/~ilek-vad/hpl/cg/index.htm


   That is.......so......so.....so....so......very wrong.  I want to tear  my
   eye balls out after seeing such mind numbing cuteness.

   Paul


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David Farnell schrieb:
>
> --- Davide Mana <davide.mana@...> wrote:
> > Something is very wrong in Japan.
>
> I think I scared my hamster, I was laughing so loud. Oh man. I
> loved the Elder Thing girl, wearing a barrel.
>

And I just failed my Sanity Check.

This is the pure horror. And it's cute. A nightmare.



Eckhard

And it looks like the Deep One girl's little pet fish is based on this image:

http://www.oceans.gov.au/norfanz/images/photo_library/04/hr/blobsnailMN.jpg

Which makes me wonder what the artist used as a model for the other
figures. Shades of pickmans model, that.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:39:19 +0100, EHuelshoff@...
<EHuelshoff@...> wrote:
>
> David Farnell schrieb:
> >
> > --- Davide Mana <davide.mana@...> wrote:
> > > Something is very wrong in Japan.
> >
> > I think I scared my hamster, I was laughing so loud. Oh man. I
> > loved the Elder Thing girl, wearing a barrel.
> >
>
> And I just failed my Sanity Check.
>
> This is the pure horror. And it's cute. A nightmare.
>
> Eckhard
>
>

If any of our listmembers in Japan can get their hands on this manga, and
any related merchandise, and is willing to act as a middleman between it
and me, I'd appreciate an email offlist to discuss specifics ;)

jon

This could have some mythos potential...

We've got secret detention facilities, a comercial aircraft used for
prisoner transport and a front company to manage the aircraft.

Sounds like DG with better funding.  Either a MJ12 or PISCES plot
could lift a few details from this.


On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:54:56 +0100, Janusz A. Urbanowicz
<alex@...> wrote:
>
> got the link through cypherpunk news:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27826-2004Dec26?language=printer
>
> here is the beginning for tease:
>
> Jet Is an Open Secret in Terror War
>
> By Dana Priest
>  Washington Post Staff Writer
>  Monday, December 27, 2004; Page A01
>
>  The airplane is a Gulfstream V turbojet, the sort favored by CEOs and
> celebrities. But since 2001 it has been seen at military airports from
> Pakistan to Indonesia to Jordan, sometimes being boarded by hooded and
> handcuffed passengers.
>
>  The plane's owner of record, Premier Executive Transport Services Inc.,
> lists directors and officers who appear to exist only on paper. And each
> one of those directors and officers has a recently issued Social Security
> number and an address consisting only of a post office box, according to an
> extensive search of state, federal and commercial records.
>
> Alex
> --
> mors ab alto
> 0x46399138
>
> The Delta Green Mailing List:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dglist
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

This rather oddball news item just in:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050106/ap_on_re_us/brf_escaped_kangaroo

     Nobody seems to know where the kangaroo came from. Is some DG
team in the area missing their trained kangaroo?:)

     I can't help but think of all those old cartoons with the
bulldogs or Sylvester vs. the "Giant Mouse"!:)

Michael Layne
DGGF#688
theherald@...

"So we tied his kangaroo down, Myte!
That's it pegged to the ground!"

Russell Rayburn wrote:

> This could have some mythos potential...

   Well, it certainly can have some DG potential.

> We've got secret detention facilities, a comercial aircraft used for
> prisoner transport and a front company to manage the aircraft.

   If you think about it, this isn't really surprising. OK, so having the
resource used to secretly transport [anonymous] prisoners rather than
arms for "freedom fighters" or other contraband is a new wrinkle.

> Sounds like DG with better funding.  Either a MJ12 or PISCES plot
> could lift a few details from this.

   Sounds like Air America with more money.

   But

   "According to airport officials, public documents and hobbyist plane
spotters, the Gulfstream V, with tail number N379P,"

   What I found most significant about the article was the way the
information was gathered. There are espionage hobbyists around the world
that keep track of aircraft registration numbers, and now they pool info
on the net. Is that cool or what?
   Of course, this means that in the DGverse the resources used in an
Opera Night might very well show up on some online amateur database.
And, since so many many ops involve death and destruction, these entries
in that database might get an asterisk. This might tend to get the
curious to invest a little more effort.

   "Not only have the plane's movements been tracked around the world,
but the on-paper officers of Premier Executive Transport Services are
also connected to a larger roster of false identities.
   "Each of the officers of Premier Executive is linked in public records
to one of five post office box numbers in Arlington, Oakton, Chevy Chase
and the District. A total of 325 names are registered to the five post
office boxes."

   If you read between the lines, this story was not the result of a
massive effort by the Washington Post. They had the connections to get
some verification from current and former spooks - but note the dearth
of quotes. Most of the footwork seems to have been done by hobbyists
looking at public records.

   "An extensive database search of a sample of 44 of those names turned
up none of the information that usually emerges in such a search: no
previous addresses, no past or current telephone numbers, no business or
corporate records. In addition, although most names were attached to
dates of birth in the 1940s, '50s or '60s, all were given Social
Security numbers between 1998 and 2003."

   I certainly hope the Company Kaplans their operatives better than
that. There are websites dedicated to Social Security numbers, and it
isn't exactly rocket science to read them and place the decade they come
from.

   Which all goes to show that this is the end of conspiracy as we know
it. The spooks don't give a shit anymore.

Mark McFadden

Just an oddity I found at the Cruel Site of the Day.

http://danstheman.com/Jenny.htm

   I've wanted to do this for years. Dan called 867-5309 in *all* of the
domestic area codes to see... what he could see?

   Anyhow, it would appear that there are still a few people that
remember Tommy Tutone's "Jenny (867-5309)", and that some still dial the
number in search of her. Or something.

   This probably didn't make it offshore, but in the 80s there was this
little One-Hit Wonder called "Jenny (867-5309)" that was playing
everywhere for a few weeks. Pretty much anyone with that phone number
had to get rid of it because of all of the unsolicited calls. DJs had a
field day with it.

   It has made it's way into Urban Legend, and has an entry at
Snopes.com. The Straight Dope has probably addressed the subject.

   Tradecraft note:
    I'd bet a lot of people use it as a combination or numeric password.

   Hmmm. I wonder if the DG Cowboys used 736-5000 as a contact number in
various area codes? Some of the crusty old WWII vets would remember
"Pennsylvania 6-5000".

Mark McFadden

Some of the crusty old WWII vets would remember
> "Pennsylvania 6-5000".

I remember Transylvania 6-5000 :).

-paul

Me too.

-Gregory
--- In dglist@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Shuford" <paul@s...> wrote:
> Some of the crusty old WWII vets would remember
> > "Pennsylvania 6-5000".
>
> I remember Transylvania 6-5000 :).
>
> -paul

> Sounds like DG with better funding.  Either a MJ12 or PISCES plot
> could lift a few details from this.

   Sounds like Air America with more money.

  <major snipping>

McFadden (would you like fries with that?) wrote:
   Which all goes to show that this is the end of conspiracy as we know
it. The spooks don't give a shit anymore.

This is one of the scariest things I've ever read. If the spies aren't even
trying anymore, what oes that imply about the "rights" of me and you?

More posting when my boozemonkey's had a bit of rest.


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--- In dglist@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Shuford" <paul@s...> wrote:
> Some of the crusty old WWII vets would remember
> > "Pennsylvania 6-5000".
>
> I remember Transylvania 6-5000 :).

    Isn't that the number of the security desk in the lobby of the
Vampire State Building?:)

Michael Layne
DGGF#688
theherald@...

>
> Some of the crusty old WWII vets would remember
>> "Pennsylvania 6-5000".
>
> I remember Transylvania 6-5000 :).
>
> -paul

I'm trying to *forget* Transylvania 6-5000...

...thanks for reminding me :/