Arc Dream will have a booth at DragonCon this weekend in Atlanta, and
we'll be running Delta Green games along with Godlike, Wild Talents,
and Monsters and Other Childish Things. Come find us at the con!

I'm particularly excited about the Midnight Gaming events we're doing
in conjunction with the Science Track (hi, Pope JonNyx!), with
late-night registered games, pickup games, and movies from Lurker
Films.

Details:

http://arcdream.livejournal.com/4526.html

--
Shane Ivey
Arc Dream Publishing
www.arcdream.com

Christopher Loree has posted a really fun interview with Dennis
Detwiller on Examiner.com:

http://www.examiner.com/x-7207-Cleveland-RPG-Examiner~y2009m9d1-Dennis-Detwiller\
-Interview

--
Shane Ivey
Arc Dream Publishing
www.arcdream.com

That was great I have to pass that on to the owner of said rifle.  I especially
loved Recoil... "is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by previous
shot".  :)

Del

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Actually remembering to include the link would probably be a good idea.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm






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On 9/1/2009 1:50 PM, Shane Ivey spaketh'd unto us thusly:

> I'm particularly excited about the Midnight Gaming events we're doing
> in conjunction with the Science Track (hi, Pope JonNyx!), with
> late-night registered games, pickup games, and movies from Lurker
> Films.
>
> Details:
>
> http://arcdream.livejournal.com/4526.html

Howdy Shane!

Got a few extra tidbits to add:

Midnight Gaming takes place in the Hilton, room #202, aka the main Science
Track room. This is larger room next to the one we were using in 2007 (for
those of you who were there then). This is NOT where the regular daytime
sessions take place.

The hotel has undergone extensive renovations since last year. In our
section there's a 24hr cafe below us now, for the hungry and/or caffeine
deprived.

I just received a bundle of fliers from Guerrilla Productions, the makers of
"The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath dvd," "The Cosmic Horror Fun-Pak dvd,"
and their new "Statement of Randolph Carter dvd". Yes, we have permission to
screen those as well. I should also be receiving a package from Lurker Films
at some point in the next day or two.

A PA system, video projector and CD/DVD player will be available in the
room; the video projector is laptop capable (vga only, though), and we can
also run laptop audio through the PA. Let me know if there is any interest
in recording gaming sessions; that'll take a little planning &
pre-convention coordination.

Finally, if the ArcDream offerings aren't enough for you, Adam Crossingham
has sent me four scenarios from their upcoming Ghoul sourcebook that need to
be playtested to destruction; one modern, one 1920s, one Dark Ages, and one
Roman. All are BRP. Potential palyers & GMs, please contact me offlist.

Back to pre-con Science Track planning & ripping out my hair...
- --

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While it will likely be much less impressive than DragonCon, for those
of us on the other side of the country in the San Francisco Bay Area
there will also be PacifiCon this weekend. I will be running a
WWII-era DG game ("Toteninsel") on Friday evening, and someone else
will be running a DG game  ("Here there be Tygers") on Saturday
afternoon which looks awesome.

http://conquestsf.avalongamecon.com/

--

Gil Trevizo
gtrevizo@...

Wish I could be there.



Jaron

Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day

Light him on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life






To: dglist@yahoogroups.com
From: jonnyx@...
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 15:19:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [dglist] DG at DragonCon this weekend





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On 9/1/2009 1:50 PM, Shane Ivey spaketh'd unto us thusly:

> I'm particularly excited about the Midnight Gaming events we're doing
> in conjunction with the Science Track (hi, Pope JonNyx!), with
> late-night registered games, pickup games, and movies from Lurker
> Films.
>
> Details:
>
> http://arcdream.livejournal.com/4526.html

Howdy Shane!

Got a few extra tidbits to add:

Midnight Gaming takes place in the Hilton, room #202, aka the main Science
Track room. This is larger room next to the one we were using in 2007 (for
those of you who were there then). This is NOT where the regular daytime
sessions take place.

The hotel has undergone extensive renovations since last year. In our
section there's a 24hr cafe below us now, for the hungry and/or caffeine
deprived.

I just received a bundle of fliers from Guerrilla Productions, the makers of
"The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath dvd," "The Cosmic Horror Fun-Pak dvd,"
and their new "Statement of Randolph Carter dvd". Yes, we have permission to
screen those as well. I should also be receiving a package from Lurker Films
at some point in the next day or two.

A PA system, video projector and CD/DVD player will be available in the
room; the video projector is laptop capable (vga only, though), and we can
also run laptop audio through the PA. Let me know if there is any interest
in recording gaming sessions; that'll take a little planning &
pre-convention coordination.

Finally, if the ArcDream offerings aren't enough for you, Adam Crossingham
has sent me four scenarios from their upcoming Ghoul sourcebook that need to
be playtested to destruction; one modern, one 1920s, one Dark Ages, and one
Roman. All are BRP. Potential palyers & GMs, please contact me offlist.

Back to pre-con Science Track planning & ripping out my hair...
- --

|| ___\ \/ / || comments/criticisms/death-threats may be sent to: ||
|| \__ \ / || jonnyx (@) gmail (dot) com ||
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I wonder if physicists really know how things work, or if they were just using a
fancy substance (from, uh, Azathoth? for example) to make fission work...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fogbank

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http://www.kurodahan.com

More on private security... embassy guards in Afghanistan:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/09/party-ends-for-kabul-embassys-booze-soak\
ed-guard-force/

"Amid allegations that the contracted security force guarding the
Kabul embassy had turned into the 101st Tequila Brigade, the State
Department sent a top-level team to investigate. Alcohol has been
banned at Camp Sullivan — the compound where the guards live — and
diplomatic security officers have been assigned to keep an eye on the
guards.

It’s brought the spotlight on ArmorGroup, the relatively low-key
security firm that has provided security for the embassy since 2007
under a contract worth $189 million. Wackenhut, a subsidiary of G4S,
had bid for the initial embassy security contract, only to be outbid
by ArmorGroup North America; in Senate testimony this year, Samuel
Brinkley, vice president of homeland and international security
services at Wackenhut, complained the firm had been losing $1 million
a month on the embassy contract since G4S acquired ArmorGroup in
mid-2008."

ObDG: Flavor text mostly.



--
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
it.
   - Jack Handey

This bears what I suspect is a non-coincidental resemblance to a Fritz Leiber
mythos story, "The terror from the depths", which also features tunnels under
California detected by an eccentric academic (Albert Wilmarth and the lads at
Miskatonic, no less) with a strange scanning device. Except in that story, the
tunnels are a manifestation of neither ghouls nor serpent people, but...

The story can be found in "Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos" (later editions) or
"Disciples of Cthulhu".


--- In dglist@yahoogroups.com, Ross Payton <rpayton@...> wrote:
>
> http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/city-laid-out-like-lizard.html*
>
> Last week, Josh Williams, formerly of Curbed LA <http://la.curbed.com/>,
> emailed with an amazing link to an article, reportedly published back in
> 1934 by the L.A. Times <http://www.latimes.com/>, about a race of "lizard
> people" who once lived beneath the city.
>
> "Did strange people live under site of Los Angeles 5000 years ago?" the
> article asks, supplying a bizarre treasure map through the city's undersides
> in the process.*
>
>
> Serpent People or misunderstood ghouls? You be the judge!
>
> --
> Ross Payton
> Raillery: A Comedy video podcast
> http://www.raillery.tv
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In dglist@yahoogroups.com, Shane Ivey <shane.ivey@...> wrote:
>
> > I don't know if it's the right place to post about the "Targets of
> > Opportunity" funraising, but I didn't find any information elsewhere.
>
> I'll post a Status web page soon. At the moment we're getting the
> manuscripts from all the writers, so once I have those I'll be able to
> post a time frame for the book's final prep and release.
>
> --
> Shane Ivey
> shane.ivey@...
>
For information : I found the Dennis Detwiller web site where  contributors can
find some update about the current status of the project :
http://web.me.com/drgonzo/Site/Blog/Entries/2009/6/7_DELTA_GREEN__Targets_of_Opp\
ortunity_Update.html

Ross Payton wrote:
"...
> That means 70 percent of the US intelligence budget is
> going to private companies.
..."

Viva la revolución? Good news for DG, in the usual twisted sense. Agents
can show up claiming to be from any one of an unmanageably large set of
new and fleeting organizations that are themselves greatly lacking in
accountability. This even provides some cover for skill set disparities,
especially with friendlies ("HyperInt just hired me to round out the
perfect team - I cook a mean ragù!"). Not sure how useful it would be
against domestic threats though.

Viktor

Edward Lipsett /ht wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fogbank

"... an aerogel material which acts as an interstage material in a
nuclear warhead, i.e. a material designed to become a superheated plasma
following the detonation of the weapon's fission stage" - and they just
forgot how to make it?

That is adorable. In this case I would guess everyone involved on the
original MJ-12 project was too screwed up by it to make any more, or DG
was up to its usual plastiquey antics in 1989. "The Horror at Facility
9404-11"...

Viktor

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Viktor Eikman<viktor@...> wrote:
> Ross Payton wrote:
> "...
>> That means 70 percent of the US intelligence budget is
>> going to private companies.
> ..."
>
> Viva la revolución? Good news for DG, in the usual twisted sense. Agents
> can show up claiming to be from any one of an unmanageably large set of
> new and fleeting organizations that are themselves greatly lacking in
> accountability. This even provides some cover for skill set disparities,
> especially with friendlies ("HyperInt just hired me to round out the
> perfect team - I cook a mean ragù!"). Not sure how useful it would be
> against domestic threats though.
>
> Viktor
>

Well, for something which may have domestic as well as international
applications...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125200842406984303.html

"PALO ALTO, Calif. -- From a Silicon Valley office strewn with
bean-bag chairs, a group of twenty-something software engineers is
building an unlikely following of terrorist hunters at U.S. spy
agencies.

One of the latest entrants into the government spy-services
marketplace, Palantir Technologies has designed what many intelligence
analysts say is the most effective tool to date to investigate
terrorist networks. The software's main advance is a user-friendly
search tool that can scan multiple data sources at once, something
previous search tools couldn't do. That means an analyst who is
following a tip about a planned terror attack, for example, can more
quickly and easily unearth connections among suspects, money
transfers, phone calls and previous attacks around the globe."

--
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
it.
   - Jack Handey

I don't know how many of you are familar with Wolfgang Bauer's Open Design
projects?

Anyway there's a new project called "The Red Eye of Azathoth" that's just
started and looking for patrons. This one is a 4 part trans-time and
location adventure about a returning comet. There isn't a DG angle, but
there is a CoC angle, so this is related pimpage.
Here's the link:
http://www.koboldquarterly.com/KQStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&\
products_id=56

Anyways, I'm here to pimp the project because the current patrons are voting
to choose the system the adventure is written for. Because of Open Design's
heritage there are a *lot* of D&D 3.5e and Pathfinder RPG fanboys around,
and BRP as the system of choice is lagging one vote behind. If you get in
now, you can help shape this decision and others.

"What no Nemesis?" you say? Or "What no Trail of Cthulhu?". That's right,
only boring old BRP, or [spits] a d20 knock-off/spiritual successor. But you
have to convert from BRP to Nemesis or ToC now anyway, so what's one more
conversion?

What's the difference between an Open Design project and one of Dennis's
excellent Fundable scenarios? OK, it costs twice as much, you get input
about key decisions, and only the paid-up patrons get the goodies at the end
-  which is a PDF. There is also a Lulu book option for patrons as well.
Good, if you are serious collector. Not so good if you want to spread CoC
goodness to the world.


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Sounds to me like the first step towards building the Greys.

It fits perfectly. Clearly this technology has been given to us by the
Fungi.

m


Ross Payton wrote:
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090827073256.htm
> *
> Researchers have received a Leverhulme Trust grant worth £228,000 to develop
> the amorphous non-silicon biological robot, plasmobot, using plasmodium, the
> vegetative stage of the slime mould Physarum polycephalum, a commonly
> occurring mould which lives in forests, gardens and most damp places in the
> UK. The Leverhulme Trust funded research project aims to design the first
> every fully biological (no silicon components) amorphous massively-parallel
> robot.*
>
> Protomatter mould bots? Mother's Milk mould bots?
>
>

Thanks for posting this Adam!

I work with Wolfgang on *Kobold Quarterly* and other Open Design projects
and just wanted to clarify a point or two.

Here's the blog entry that details the 3 projects currently being
commissioned (http://www.koboldquarterly.com/k/article1629.php). The third
one down, *The Red Eye of Azathoth*, is the one to look for.

This round of commissions is a little different to previous ones. The final
products *will *be publicly available; you don't need to be a patron to
purchase the final product, assuming it gets commissioned. *However*, being
a patron lets you 1) actually help shape the scenarios (possibly even write
one) and 2) see the design process from the inside.

The model has a lot of "by the people" elements, so if you want to see BRP
and not d20, become a patron and vote!

Cheers,
Scott Gable




On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Adam Crossingham <the.wolery@...>wrote:

>
>
> I don't know how many of you are familar with Wolfgang Bauer's Open Design
> projects?
>
> Anyway there's a new project called "The Red Eye of Azathoth" that's just
> started and looking for patrons. This one is a 4 part trans-time and
> location adventure about a returning comet. There isn't a DG angle, but
> there is a CoC angle, so this is related pimpage.
> Here's the link:
>
>
http://www.koboldquarterly.com/KQStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&\
products_id=56
>
> Anyways, I'm here to pimp the project because the current patrons are
> voting
> to choose the system the adventure is written for. Because of Open Design's
> heritage there are a *lot* of D&D 3.5e and Pathfinder RPG fanboys around,
> and BRP as the system of choice is lagging one vote behind. If you get in
> now, you can help shape this decision and others.
>
> "What no Nemesis?" you say? Or "What no Trail of Cthulhu?". That's right,
> only boring old BRP, or [spits] a d20 knock-off/spiritual successor. But
> you
> have to convert from BRP to Nemesis or ToC now anyway, so what's one more
> conversion?
>
> What's the difference between an Open Design project and one of Dennis's
> excellent Fundable scenarios? OK, it costs twice as much, you get input
> about key decisions, and only the paid-up patrons get the goodies at the
> end
> - which is a PDF. There is also a Lulu book option for patrons as well.
> Good, if you are serious collector. Not so good if you want to spread CoC
> goodness to the world.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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I'm really interested in this author thanks to your review. I've been
looking for some good creepy sci-fi. Already the concept slightly reminds of
* Childhood's End* by Art C. Clarke. But it sounds a bit better. I'll have
to check out the author's other works too, the super-soldier book sounds
enticing as well - although a bit more cyberpunk than cthulhu.


On 9/4/09, Marshall Gatten <marshall@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sounds to me like the first step towards building the Greys.
>
> It fits perfectly. Clearly this technology has been given to us by the
> Fungi.
>
> m
>
> Ross Payton wrote:
> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090827073256.htm
> > *
> > Researchers have received a Leverhulme Trust grant worth £228,000 to
> develop
> > the amorphous non-silicon biological robot, plasmobot, using plasmodium,
> the
> > vegetative stage of the slime mould Physarum polycephalum, a commonly
> > occurring mould which lives in forests, gardens and most damp places in
> the
> > UK. The Leverhulme Trust funded research project aims to design the first
> > every fully biological (no silicon components) amorphous
> massively-parallel
> > robot.*
> >
> > Protomatter mould bots? Mother's Milk mould bots?
> >
> >
>
>


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Russell Rayburn wrote:
> Well, for something which may have domestic as well as international
> applications...
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125200842406984303.html

Wow. They had to name it after LOTR.

This seems relevant mainly to a metagame problem. One thing that comes
up a lot in games (and player recruitment) is a fundamental lack of
player familiarity with how intelligence agencies actually search for
information and connect the dots, especially when "the loop" is supposed
to be kept very small. Maybe that's especially common here in the
Unamerican part of the world, but the challenge of roleplaying IC/LE
professionals with any sort of verisimilitude, and without a GM holding
their hand, has put off a lot of potential players.

The usual TV/movie solution is to invent some obvious bullshit
application where fingerprint matches come up in three seconds and every
known criminal has a brief but always enlightening illustrated
biography. Not cool. Being able to route everything through Wu and his
Tiger Teams is useful, but takes the spotlight off our protagonists, and
spreads risks in a way that is not always desirable.

Palantir is something I could show to players to give them some idea of
the tools at their disposal. MJ-12 will obviously be using it. A DG
knockoff of it in the hands of A Cell, quietly seeping up all new info
on "heterodox religious groups" and such, would be a good reason why DG
can keep getting to the right place at the right time. A version in the
hands of the player characters, integrating FinCEN, would obviously need
to respect compartmentalized security, but could become a one-stop shop
for much of the research needed at the opera, mainly to lower the
threshold for new players (and GMs).

Viktor

weirmonken06 wrote:
> Full article here: http://tinyurl.com/pokw9a

Old thread, but nobody mentioned literally hundreds of people have been
killed in drone attacks, such as...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8224289.stm

Jürgen mentioned humanoid robots being cliché, and Gregory countered
that being humanoid is really about being a flawed imitation of
something more significant, hence the similarity between us and some
Mythos beasties. The reality of drones does give me two ideas though:

- We humans tend to send robots, not humans, for exploration of exotic
territory, like the bottom of the sea, or the Oort cloud. Is
clairvoyance and teleportation really so practical that Mythos races
would not be inclined to send highly compact shoggoth scouts or
something? The "crustacean-like" creatures in the evidence locker in
Through a Glass, Darkly, seem like something DG should encounter a lot
more often than living things on a more human physical scale.

- The public is used to the idea of simple "robots" remotely operated to
disarm bombs. DG could load one of those up with explosives and send it
into the evacuated (or "evacuated") building. At the first sign of the
Mythos beast being near it, boom. You have an excuse to evacuate, a
decent weapon hiding in plain sight, a cover story and (hopefully) very
little evidence left over in the end. You also have major news coverage...

The trouble with a genre centered around the "oldest and strongest
emotion of mankind" is you can't quite do this. For reasons of intuitive
playability, even Mythos-related threats need to have some confrontation
on a human scale.

Viktor

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Viktor Eikman<viktor@...> wrote:

> This seems relevant mainly to a metagame problem. One thing that comes
> up a lot in games (and player recruitment) is a fundamental lack of
> player familiarity with how intelligence agencies actually search for
> information and connect the dots, especially when "the loop" is supposed
> to be kept very small. Maybe that's especially common here in the
> Unamerican part of the world, but the challenge of roleplaying IC/LE
> professionals with any sort of verisimilitude, and without a GM holding
> their hand, has put off a lot of potential players.

For some reason, this reminded me of the 'Arkady Renko flowchart'.

Take a list of people, events, places and things.  Connect everything
with lines; solid lines indicate known relationships, dotted lines
indicate suspected relationships or unverified information.

Kinda breaks down when you've got a body hopping traveler... until the
traveler gets it's own icon, since all the people listed aren't just
connected to particularly brutal homicides but also to an event
labeled "corpse desecration".



--
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
it.
   - Jack Handey

http://www.metafilter.com/84847/13-more-things-that-dont-make-sense

Planet X, Bloop, nocebo effect (the opposite of the placebo effect) and
more. All kinds of obDG fodder.

--
Ross Payton
Raillery: A Comedy video podcast
http://www.raillery.tv


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Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average
patrolman's equipment and weapons?

Or indeed tell me what they are?

There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.

Thanks in advance.

--
Adam Crossingham


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Adam Crossingham schrieb:
>
>
> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average
> patrolman's equipment and weapons?
>
> Or indeed tell me what they are?
>
> There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.
>









Current (and some obsolete) issue weapons of the Columbus PD are in my
files, here:

http://worldinventory.googlepages.com/pw_ohio

Cheers

HANS

My local PD carries a S&W M&P .40S&W, 2 spare magazines ( 45rds total,
46 with one chambered ) of 180gr hydra-shock, an ASP baton, handcuffs,
surefire flashlight, at least 2 pair nitrile gloves in a case and body
armor ( level II for uniformed, IIRC ).  Some patrol officers also
issued X26 Tasers.

In cruisers expect to find first aid kit ( to include blankets and
inflatable splints, IIRC ), road flares, and either AR15 carbines,
M16A1 ( yes, vietnam era... my city got them dirt cheap from the
national guard ) or the occasional Remington 870.  Last time I checked
the shotguns were being phased out.

That help?

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam Crossingham<the.wolery@...> wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average
> patrolman's equipment and weapons?
>
> Or indeed tell me what they are?
>
> There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Adam Crossingham
>
>
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>
>
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--
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
it.
   - Jack Handey

Should have added, my local PD is Columbus, Ohio ;)

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Russell Rayburn<rusrayburn@...> wrote:
> My local PD carries a S&W M&P .40S&W, 2 spare magazines ( 45rds total,
> 46 with one chambered ) of 180gr hydra-shock, an ASP baton, handcuffs,
> surefire flashlight, at least 2 pair nitrile gloves in a case and body
> armor ( level II for uniformed, IIRC ).  Some patrol officers also
> issued X26 Tasers.
>
> In cruisers expect to find first aid kit ( to include blankets and
> inflatable splints, IIRC ), road flares, and either AR15 carbines,
> M16A1 ( yes, vietnam era... my city got them dirt cheap from the
> national guard ) or the occasional Remington 870.  Last time I checked
> the shotguns were being phased out.
>
> That help?
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam Crossingham<the.wolery@...> wrote:
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average
>> patrolman's equipment and weapons?
>>
>> Or indeed tell me what they are?
>>
>> There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> --
>> Adam Crossingham
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> The Delta Green Mailing List:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dglist
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
> And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
> it.
>  - Jack Handey
>



--
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
it.
   - Jack Handey

I could also ask the next one I see, if he seems friendly enough, and you
need more info.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Russell Rayburn <rusrayburn@...>wrote:

>
>
> My local PD carries a S&W M&P .40S&W, 2 spare magazines ( 45rds total,
> 46 with one chambered ) of 180gr hydra-shock, an ASP baton, handcuffs,
> surefire flashlight, at least 2 pair nitrile gloves in a case and body
> armor ( level II for uniformed, IIRC ). Some patrol officers also
> issued X26 Tasers.
>
> In cruisers expect to find first aid kit ( to include blankets and
> inflatable splints, IIRC ), road flares, and either AR15 carbines,
> M16A1 ( yes, vietnam era... my city got them dirt cheap from the
> national guard ) or the occasional Remington 870. Last time I checked
> the shotguns were being phased out.
>
> That help?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam
Crossingham<the.wolery@...<the.wolery%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average
> > patrolman's equipment and weapons?
> >
> > Or indeed tell me what they are?
> >
> > There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Adam Crossingham
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > The Delta Green Mailing List:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dglist
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
> And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
> it.
> - Jack Handey
>
>


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I am a suburban police officer in the Columbus Ohio area.  We carry radios, ASP
batons, handcuffs, surgical gloves, flashlight, keys (lots of keys), OC pepper
spray, kevlar vest, 2 spare magazine and a 9mm issued Glock (although you can
buy your own from several approved models and calibers) and the indispensible
notepad and pens.  You can go to work with a high chance to never need your gun,
but you use your pen and paper every shift.  You can carry in your cruiser (at
your option) a MP5, M4 (M-16 variant), shotgun and a less-lethal "bean bag"
shotgun.  Most officers (myself included) also carry a pocket knife and some
carry a backup handgun.  I also carry a digital tape recorder and camera to
document interviews and events.  This is in addition to a bag just chock full of
paper (forms, criminal complaints, frequently used statutes) and  orange
("please don't run me over!") traffic direction gear.

Jaron

Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day



Light him on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life




To: dglist@yahoogroups.com
From: rusrayburn@...
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:21:08 -0400
Subject: Re: [dglist] Columbus Ohio Police kit?





















                   Should have added, my local PD is Columbus, Ohio ;)



On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Russell Rayburn<rusrayburn@...> wrote:

> My local PD carries a S&W M&P .40S&W, 2 spare magazines ( 45rds total,

> 46 with one chambered ) of 180gr hydra-shock, an ASP baton, handcuffs,

> surefire flashlight, at least 2 pair nitrile gloves in a case and body

> armor ( level II for uniformed, IIRC ).  Some patrol officers also

> issued X26 Tasers.

>

> In cruisers expect to find first aid kit ( to include blankets and

> inflatable splints, IIRC ), road flares, and either AR15 carbines,

> M16A1 ( yes, vietnam era... my city got them dirt cheap from the

> national guard ) or the occasional Remington 870.  Last time I checked

> the shotguns were being phased out.

>

> That help?

>

> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam Crossingham<the.wolery@...> wrote:

>> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average

>> patrolman's equipment and weapons?

>>

>> Or indeed tell me what they are?

>>

>> There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.

>>

>> Thanks in advance.

>>

>> --

>> Adam Crossingham

>>

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> The Delta Green Mailing List:

>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dglist

>>

>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

> I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.

> And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect

> it.

>  - Jack Handey

>



--

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.

And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect

it.

   - Jack Handey




















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... Just how many people on this list are in Columbus?

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jaron Bernstein <krovos@...> wrote:

>
> I am a suburban police officer in the Columbus Ohio area.  We carry radios,
> ASP batons, handcuffs, surgical gloves, flashlight, keys (lots of keys), OC
> pepper spray, kevlar vest, 2 spare magazine and a 9mm issued Glock (although
> you can buy your own from several approved models and calibers) and the
> indispensible notepad and pens.  You can go to work with a high chance to
> never need your gun, but you use your pen and paper every shift.  You can
> carry in your cruiser (at your option) a MP5, M4 (M-16 variant), shotgun and
> a less-lethal "bean bag" shotgun.  Most officers (myself included) also
> carry a pocket knife and some carry a backup handgun.  I also carry a
> digital tape recorder and camera to document interviews and events.  This is
> in addition to a bag just chock full of paper (forms, criminal complaints,
> frequently used statutes) and  orange ("please don't run me over!") traffic
> direction gear.
>
> Jaron
>
> Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day
>
>
>
> Light him on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
>
>
>
>
> To: dglist@yahoogroups.com
> From: rusrayburn@...
> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:21:08 -0400
> Subject: Re: [dglist] Columbus Ohio Police kit?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                  Should have added, my local PD is Columbus, Ohio ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Russell Rayburn<rusrayburn@...>
> wrote:
>
> > My local PD carries a S&W M&P .40S&W, 2 spare magazines ( 45rds total,
>
> > 46 with one chambered ) of 180gr hydra-shock, an ASP baton, handcuffs,
>
> > surefire flashlight, at least 2 pair nitrile gloves in a case and body
>
> > armor ( level II for uniformed, IIRC ).  Some patrol officers also
>
> > issued X26 Tasers.
>
> >
>
> > In cruisers expect to find first aid kit ( to include blankets and
>
> > inflatable splints, IIRC ), road flares, and either AR15 carbines,
>
> > M16A1 ( yes, vietnam era... my city got them dirt cheap from the
>
> > national guard ) or the occasional Remington 870.  Last time I checked
>
> > the shotguns were being phased out.
>
> >
>
> > That help?
>
> >
>
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam Crossingham<the.wolery@...>
> wrote:
>
> >> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find the average
>
> >> patrolman's equipment and weapons?
>
> >>
>
> >> Or indeed tell me what they are?
>
> >>
>
> >> There's nothing in the DGAAA - I looked.
>
> >>
>
> >> Thanks in advance.
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >> Adam Crossingham
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> ------------------------------------
>
> >>
>
> >> The Delta Green Mailing List:
>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dglist
>
> >>
>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
>
> > And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
>
> > it.
>
> >  - Jack Handey
>
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
>
> And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
>
> it.
>
>  - Jack Handey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jon
Hendrickson<Jon.Hendrickson@...> wrote:
> ... Just how many people on this list are in Columbus?
>

Apparently enough for a cell...

--
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
it.
   - Jack Handey

Well, assuming DG recruited humanities graduate students. *S*

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Russell Rayburn <rusrayburn@...>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jon
> Hendrickson<Jon.Hendrickson@... <Jon.Hendrickson%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > ... Just how many people on this list are in Columbus?
> >
>
> Apparently enough for a cell...
>
> --
> I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
> And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
> it.
> - Jack Handey
>
>


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