... DBM ... (DM) Derek, There has been quite a bit of discussion on this on the IWF lately. There will be an announcement very soon I expect. Regards Dave M...
There's a paragraph at the end of the book explaining how to convert the lists for players using the obsolete dbm rules Personally i think this would be a...
... The DBMM lists contain conversion guidelines for use with DBM, so they clearly *do* have something to do with DBM, like it or not. DBM book 3 is out of...
Why a bad idea, Richard? The lists are largely by the same authors as the original ones, incorporating their latest research and thinking. If Duncan Head...
... That is a matter of opinion. Anyone could publish lists and provide information on how to use them for DBM (or any other rules set). That does not...
Just as an update: the relevant IWF committee has voted in favour of allowing their use in addition to the DBM list books - the organisers will announce ASAP...
... It's not a matter of opinion that the new lists "have something to do with DBM", it's a matter of plain fact. One of the authors of DBM has commissioned...
... will ... Uh-oh! I can see a _lot_ of frantic painting between now and June, at least on my part*. Regards Jer i.e. I will be doing such painting, not that...
Because: 1. The suggestion is that the new books are used alongside the existing books and this seems to me to be an entirely un-necessary complication, as...
... Would you agree that lord of the rings based army lists (for example) drawn up to work with DBM have an equivalent amount (or more?) to do with DBM? At...
Ah, my suggestion is to use the new lists in place of the old, not in addition. I understand the point about accuracy, but many (probably almost all) of the...
Bit of a straw man there, Gary - we're not talking about fantasy armies. The new lists simply look better and more accurate, and the fact that they're...
Howdy, This all misses the point. Players want to use DBMM because they've mini-maxed the old lists to death and they want to suss out new killer lists. The...
... I was deliberately trying to choose an example that would stand out, and which in my view would have more to do with DBM. As I play it as a game, and have...
... Fair point, I was browsing the new book3 just last night looking for interesting changes when I heard it was under consideration for the IWF. Gary...
Hi FWIW I agree that using both sets of army list books is an "unnecessary complication", however maybe we can regard this as a transitional measure. How DBMM...
... Strawman argument (although possibly not in Larryworld). It's not 'anyone' is it? It is one of the authors of DBM, the lists are based on best available...
... I'm not against adoption of the new books alongside the old, I'm happy to borrow (or if it's worth it) buy the dbmm books as needed. Seems stranger to me...
... The troop mechanics that exist in DBM changed quite a bit from version to version - eg., compare Kn(F) in DBM 2.x with Kn(F) in DBM 3.1... just not the...
I think this is a bit of a tempest in a teacup. For me the controversy would be if we replaced the existing book entirely. To require those who are sticking...
... One man's fact is another man's opinion - it just depends on which side of things he supports. If *I* were to write a series of lists and give DBM...
... 1. Many of the armies represented as "historical" have little more to recommend them than the fantasy lists of LOTR. If we were to genuinely restrict...
... Ultimately I agree. But, I am concerned with Jeff Zorn's point about new "killer" armies that a large number of players will be unaware of and unprepared...
... Which is part of my point. The lists should stand on their own merit and not on who wrote them, who supports them, or who publishes them. If they are...
