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#439 From: "David" <daveolloyd@...>
Date: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:41 pm
Subject: Haarlock's Legacy?
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Hi!

Does anyone know the status of the next Haarlock's Legacy books?  The Fantasy
Flight website says that they are still in the works, but nothing shows up on
the "upcoming products" page.

(I think that the first book may have playability issues, but I very much
enjoyed the concept and the tone).

Thanks,
David.

#438 From: "jackdelavert" <jackdelavert@...>
Date: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:56 am
Subject: Commissar pdf
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I've been playing a Commissar in a game that has been running for some time and
i've noticed a couple of errors that could use errata:
1. Pistol Training (Bolt) appears twice at different levels
Suggested answer: replace second incidence with Pistol Training (Melta) as this
doesn't appear on lists

2. Sound Constitution is only available at one level (Fleet/Field Commissar) and
is only 'pickable' once
Suggested Answer: Add to Cadet and Commissar levels with all choices 'pickable'
twice (x2) for a total of 6 levels.  This save the commissar from having less
wounds than a low-mid level Guardsman.

#437 From: "John Rowe" <jtrowe@...>
Date: Wed Aug 5, 2009 11:49 pm
Subject: New PBEM recruiting...
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The 13th Rustican Volunteers is recruiting!

The 13th Rustican Volunteers is a PBEM using the Dark Heresy rules.  Player
characters are new recruits of the Imperial Guard posted to a distant war in
the service of the Emperor.

Go to exotic locations, meet interesting people and kill them for the glory
of the Empire!

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/13th_Rustican_Volunteers/

#436 From: "Josh Higgins" <Tallknight@...>
Date: Wed May 13, 2009 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: Check out my photos on Facebook
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I apologize to the group, didn't mean to send this out to the list.
and I am not a spammer.
Tallknight

#435 From: Harriegh Haemonculus <harriegh_haemonculus@...>
Date: Wed May 13, 2009 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: Check out my photos on Facebook
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Can something be done about this spammer?

Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Harriegh

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Subject: [dark_heresy] Check out my photos on Facebook
To: "Dark_heresy" <dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 3:39 PM

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Hi Dark_heresy,

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Date: Tue May 12, 2009 7:39 pm
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Hi Dark_heresy,

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#433 From: "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
Date: Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: Working on a Setting
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After rereading the Temple Tendency section, I think the Tendency would utterly
hate the Jewel Sector, in that they don't trust the Ecclisiarchy or The Adeptus
Mechanicus, and all the tithes that normall go toward the Church and the Ad Mech
are channelled towards thier manufactories and infrastructure. Plus the Doctrine
of Transmogrification, wherein, while cybernetic implantation is the path
towards closness with the Omnissiah, it's not for everyone, nor should it be
attempted.

which will Drive most AdMech up the wall, as it's a not quiet heresy and trying
to convince the locals of it otherwise will typically end up in failure as
confusion of doctrine will end up with different intepretations.

other conspriacy nuggets:

The rather low incidence of psychers should raise red flags to most players with
the obvious question: where are all of them? Also a rather low incidence of
mutation (visible in any rate) is also a cause for concern. The locals tend to
play this close to the vest and seem to want to speak of other things.



--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "D.R. Schumpert" <johnnywellon@...> wrote:
>
> Re: distrust of the ecclisiarchy and conspiracies, you may want to take a look
at the Temple Tendency in Disciples of the Dark Gods.  Other than acceptance of
Sororitas (Temple Tendancy hates them and considers them traitors to the true
faith) the Temple Tendancy seems to fit fairly well with your cluster's view of
the emperor
>
> --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Saul William Schimek <julianxsj@...> wrote:
>
> From: Saul William Schimek <julianxsj@...>
> Subject: [dark_heresy] Re: Working on a Setting
> To: dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 10:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> An inherently logical supposition (as much as can apply to the Warp), which if
players do ask around, they would find out that the locals thought it was the
35th century and not eh 42nd. So it's a partial explanation of thier technology
being what it is and general health of the place, as it has had relatively few
external attacks (comparitively speaking), and thier battle preparedness.
>
> Other things the players and imperium would not is that htey have become adept
at stripping dead systems for resoruces or turning them into Armory Worlds and
ForgeWorlds that seem to exceed the legendary capabilites of the Imperium at the
Time of the Horus Heresy (given 5 milennia of development under a relative
stress for battle readiness and you begin to get the idea).
>
> General equipment quality is exceptional and high in reliablity. Given that
The Cluster inhabitants can reproduce any template the Imperium has and
seemingly improve on it, as well as produce many long lost templates with little
effort, is going to make the Adeptus Mechanicus drek sideways and cause all
sorts of headaches between the Twin Empires (Holy Terra and Holy Mars
respectively) back in The Sol Sector.
>
> The Jewel Sector is more of a Mega-Sector and easily matches the Tau Empire in
sheer size, if not technological might. Which Leaves the Imperium in a rather
odd position as to what to do with them. The Locals aren't disloyal as far as
can be really called out on. Devotionals to The Emperor and His Archangels, The
Loyalist Primarchs are common Iconography, and membership in The Imperial Guard
is a much sought after social mobility enhancer. They just seem to be quite
guarded about the Ecclisiarchy and the Adeptus Mechanicus, but trust the Offices
Of the Departmento Munitoriam almost implicitly (Almost being the keyword, as
the aren't sure about how the Outside may have changed in the last few thousand
years, and they aren't impressed by what they've seen so far).
>
> Cultural oddities to keep in mind: The Local Version of the Imperial Guard,
while polite and has followed it previous orders to the letter, doesn't
recognize the Ecclisiarchy (With the exception of the Sisters of Battle) or the
Adeptus Mechanicus as having ANY Authority over them. they are polite, but firm
in this regard, and attempts with threats will result in subduing of the
offender in question and Permanent Ejection from the Cluster....under pain of
Death.
>
> Other Issues: Asking them about Eldar will get a rather strange look from a
local as they ask, "Um, tall Xeno's right. With pointy helmets?" Some sections
of the local guard Would shudder slightly at the name and want to switch to
another conversation (They've run into the Dark Eldar on occasion as they've
dropped through the warp storm by accident).
>
> Local grasp of Technology and how to repair it is about equal to 21st century
acceptance level of such things and literacy is very high. Translation:
technological knowledge is not considered a bad thing, it's only the improper
application of it that is considered tech-heresy. Which the Adeptus Mechanicus
can help but agree with...and remain non hypocritical. the are might even be a
great recruiting center for them....if they could get past the fact they aren't
particularly trusted.
>
> The Ecclisiarchy faces a problem of Dogma: Namely the local dogma that is so
ingrained into the people that asking if they Believe in The Emperor will get a
strange look (of the sort of one expecting a coo-coo bird to pop out of their
head). Any attempt to bring them over to the Imperial Dogma (with the
Ecclisiarchy in the middle) will geta distinctly unfriendly look and mutterings
of "Symoni" or "Tithe-Thief" will be heard.
>
> And now the conspiracy nuggets:
>
> Any relatively sane Inquisitor is going to ask, "How did this place get this
way without self-destructing? " Well, there is a reason. And it's one best left
to the imagination of the GM. My take on it is that the Illuminati and the
Sensei were behind the shearing off of the Cluster (still working on that bit).
>
> again...thoughts are welcome
>
> --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Chad" <calico_jack73@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > You know... if I were playing in this I'd guess that the whole cluster was
actually ripped through time by the warp storms from the period immediately
following the Horus Heresy. It would explain their technology and ignorance of
some of the more newly discovered xenos races. It would also explain the crossed
lightning bolt symbol. The revrence of the Emperor as a Divine Being could have
come from the early imperial cult spread from the words in the Lectitio
Divinitatus.
> >
> > "SUFFER NOT THE WITCH TO LIVE"
> >
> > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, it's more of a confluence of several issues that will keep the
players busy in the area.
> > >
> > > The first and most obvious to those who skimmed over the Disciples of the
Dark Gods is that The Jewel Cluster (more accurately a MegaSector with thousands
of inhabited, well developed worlds) has for it's version of the Ecclisiarchy a
rather perverse variation on the Temple Tendency with a significant portion of
it's beliefs that The Emperor is Divine in Nature much like the Temple Tendency.
Unlike the Tendency which has the power rooted firmly in the Ecclisiarchy, The
Jewel Cluster variation of the Ecclisiarchy has the Power rooted firmly in The
Emperor and The Inquisition.
> > > As to the exact reason for this, can be left for GM's to develop, but a
pronounced distrust of Ecclisiarch Authority will be evident, but strangely not
the Inqusition.
> > >
> > > The Adeptus Mechanicus's response to the level of technology in the
Cluster will caus esimultanious consternation and the closest thing it's felt to
fear in millenia, As the cluster appears to have lost none of it's technology
base from the time of the Heresy and appears to have preheresy technology within
it's grasp (from first glance). To further frustrate things, the Adeptus
Mechanicus will be kept under surveillance while in the area and the local
version has been subordinated to the local IG (A perversion of the Natural
Order). On the other hand, The locals seem to be more than willing to share
tehcnology, but not relinquish it as they can spot the obvious hunger in the
AdMec.
> > >
> > > The Imperial Guard will be in the odd position of commanding attention
from the locals that is usually reserved for Church members. Astute players will
be able to parlay this for information and any reasonable request will be met
with efficency. Adeptus Munitorium members will have records request provided
upon request, but requests of the Sectors production capacity will be
fragmanetary at best (Which should raise a red flag, but smart officers will be
able to spot distrust faily quickly). Also, any form of threats from the
Munitorium will result in information drying up like water ona red hot gridle.
> > >
> > > The Imperial Navy and Rogue Traders will positively cry when they see a
local version of a naval yard, as it will match those near Holy Terra or Holy
Mars easily. The impression that should be given is that the Cluster has not
lost any of it's technological might.
> > >
> > > more ot come
> > >
> > > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "David" <daveolloyd@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy
somewhere :-) The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests are
secretly supplying the Chaos Space Marines. Or maybe the Sisters of Battle have
degenerated into a heretical cult. Hmmm. Further investigation are careful
monitoring are clearly needed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > David.
> > > >
> > > > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Saul William Schimek"
<julianxsj@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the
40k galaxy (called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer
chaos of 40k), but here are the highlights:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds
(as Yet unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus
Heresy, with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there
(a convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
> > > > >
> > > > > The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme
Commadant-Militant (a locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating
military production and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy
forces. Troops from this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and
repair of equipment, but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of
knowledge the average IG solider, not to mention local knows.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly
professional, not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
> > > > >
> > > > > All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are
excpetionally efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local
version of the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly
replicated ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is
common and seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of
technology, the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be
thought of, including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well
as Titans
> > > > >
> > > > > All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to
exceptional quality.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and
trying to tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are
loyal to The Emperor with out question.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster
harkens back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed
Lightning Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The
Adeptus Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and
Commissars (which are treated like royalty).
> > > > >
> > > > > The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church
functions are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial
areas). however, Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
> > > > >
> > > > > Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to
serve an almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster
will be politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if
needbe) to keep them from interfering with operations.
> > > > >
> > > > > The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau
(would sound close to Eldar Description) , or the Tryanid (would not really
comprehend the idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to
them). Orks and the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and
they hate them with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
> > > > >
> > > > > An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls
for no readily apparent reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless
meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those
that don't.
> > > > >
> > > > > That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.
> > > > >
> > > > > This isa light once over. comments are welcome
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#432 From: "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
Date: Fri Apr 3, 2009 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: Working on a Astartes Chapter to include in my DH game.
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Sure, More than Willing to Help. As a Starter, a naming for a Astartes Chapter
should have Something to Do With It's Founding (What The Chapter Does, a Event
it was Famous For. Or and Evocative name (IE: The Eviscerators, Venerators of
Orison, Or The Emperors Fists).


--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "johnnywellon" <johnnywellon@...> wrote:
>
> In my current Dark Heresy Campaign, the players are crossing paths on a couple
of occassions with a space marine chapter I'm developing.  The thing I keep
hanging up on it coming up with a fitting name for the chapter.
>
> If anyone here would be interested in hearing more details of the chapter
concept and/or would be willing to help bounce ideas for nomenclature, please
let me know.
>

#431 From: "johnnywellon" <johnnywellon@...>
Date: Thu Apr 2, 2009 3:45 pm
Subject: Anyone else here located in SC?
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Just wondering if any of the other DH players in this group were also located in
South Carolina, USA.

#430 From: "johnnywellon" <johnnywellon@...>
Date: Thu Apr 2, 2009 3:41 pm
Subject: Working on a Astartes Chapter to include in my DH game.
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In my current Dark Heresy Campaign, the players are crossing paths on a couple
of occassions with a space marine chapter I'm developing.  The thing I keep
hanging up on it coming up with a fitting name for the chapter.

If anyone here would be interested in hearing more details of the chapter
concept and/or would be willing to help bounce ideas for nomenclature, please
let me know.

#429 From: "D.R. Schumpert" <johnnywellon@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Working on a Setting
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Re: distrust of the ecclisiarchy and conspiracies, you may want to take a look at the Temple Tendency in Disciples of the Dark Gods.  Other than acceptance of Sororitas (Temple Tendancy hates them and considers them traitors to the true faith) the Temple Tendancy seems to fit fairly well with your cluster's view of the emperor

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Saul William Schimek <julianxsj@...> wrote:
From: Saul William Schimek <julianxsj@...>
Subject: [dark_heresy] Re: Working on a Setting
To: dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 10:25 PM

An inherently logical supposition (as much as can apply to the Warp), which if players do ask around, they would find out that the locals thought it was the 35th century and not eh 42nd. So it's a partial explanation of thier technology being what it is and general health of the place, as it has had relatively few external attacks (comparitively speaking), and thier battle preparedness.

Other things the players and imperium would not is that htey have become adept at stripping dead systems for resoruces or turning them into Armory Worlds and ForgeWorlds that seem to exceed the legendary capabilites of the Imperium at the Time of the Horus Heresy (given 5 milennia of development under a relative stress for battle readiness and you begin to get the idea).

General equipment quality is exceptional and high in reliablity. Given that The Cluster inhabitants can reproduce any template the Imperium has and seemingly improve on it, as well as produce many long lost templates with little effort, is going to make the Adeptus Mechanicus drek sideways and cause all sorts of headaches between the Twin Empires (Holy Terra and Holy Mars respectively) back in The Sol Sector.

The Jewel Sector is more of a Mega-Sector and easily matches the Tau Empire in sheer size, if not technological might. Which Leaves the Imperium in a rather odd position as to what to do with them. The Locals aren't disloyal as far as can be really called out on. Devotionals to The Emperor and His Archangels, The Loyalist Primarchs are common Iconography, and membership in The Imperial Guard is a much sought after social mobility enhancer. They just seem to be quite guarded about the Ecclisiarchy and the Adeptus Mechanicus, but trust the Offices Of the Departmento Munitoriam almost implicitly (Almost being the keyword, as the aren't sure about how the Outside may have changed in the last few thousand years, and they aren't impressed by what they've seen so far).

Cultural oddities to keep in mind: The Local Version of the Imperial Guard, while polite and has followed it previous orders to the letter, doesn't recognize the Ecclisiarchy (With the exception of the Sisters of Battle) or the Adeptus Mechanicus as having ANY Authority over them. they are polite, but firm in this regard, and attempts with threats will result in subduing of the offender in question and Permanent Ejection from the Cluster....under pain of Death.

Other Issues: Asking them about Eldar will get a rather strange look from a local as they ask, "Um, tall Xeno's right. With pointy helmets?" Some sections of the local guard Would shudder slightly at the name and want to switch to another conversation (They've run into the Dark Eldar on occasion as they've dropped through the warp storm by accident).

Local grasp of Technology and how to repair it is about equal to 21st century acceptance level of such things and literacy is very high. Translation: technological knowledge is not considered a bad thing, it's only the improper application of it that is considered tech-heresy. Which the Adeptus Mechanicus can help but agree with...and remain non hypocritical. the are might even be a great recruiting center for them....if they could get past the fact they aren't particularly trusted.

The Ecclisiarchy faces a problem of Dogma: Namely the local dogma that is so ingrained into the people that asking if they Believe in The Emperor will get a strange look (of the sort of one expecting a coo-coo bird to pop out of their head). Any attempt to bring them over to the Imperial Dogma (with the Ecclisiarchy in the middle) will geta distinctly unfriendly look and mutterings of "Symoni" or "Tithe-Thief" will be heard.

And now the conspiracy nuggets:

Any relatively sane Inquisitor is going to ask, "How did this place get this way without self-destructing? " Well, there is a reason. And it's one best left to the imagination of the GM. My take on it is that the Illuminati and the Sensei were behind the shearing off of the Cluster (still working on that bit).

again...thoughts are welcome

--- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Chad" <calico_jack73@ ...> wrote:
>
> You know... if I were playing in this I'd guess that the whole cluster was actually ripped through time by the warp storms from the period immediately following the Horus Heresy. It would explain their technology and ignorance of some of the more newly discovered xenos races. It would also explain the crossed lightning bolt symbol. The revrence of the Emperor as a Divine Being could have come from the early imperial cult spread from the words in the Lectitio Divinitatus.
>
> "SUFFER NOT THE WITCH TO LIVE"
>
> --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, it's more of a confluence of several issues that will keep the players busy in the area.
> >
> > The first and most obvious to those who skimmed over the Disciples of the Dark Gods is that The Jewel Cluster (more accurately a MegaSector with thousands of inhabited, well developed worlds) has for it's version of the Ecclisiarchy a rather perverse variation on the Temple Tendency with a significant portion of it's beliefs that The Emperor is Divine in Nature much like the Temple Tendency. Unlike the Tendency which has the power rooted firmly in the Ecclisiarchy, The Jewel Cluster variation of the Ecclisiarchy has the Power rooted firmly in The Emperor and The Inquisition.
> > As to the exact reason for this, can be left for GM's to develop, but a pronounced distrust of Ecclisiarch Authority will be evident, but strangely not the Inqusition.
> >
> > The Adeptus Mechanicus's response to the level of technology in the Cluster will caus esimultanious consternation and the closest thing it's felt to fear in millenia, As the cluster appears to have lost none of it's technology base from the time of the Heresy and appears to have preheresy technology within it's grasp (from first glance). To further frustrate things, the Adeptus Mechanicus will be kept under surveillance while in the area and the local version has been subordinated to the local IG (A perversion of the Natural Order). On the other hand, The locals seem to be more than willing to share tehcnology, but not relinquish it as they can spot the obvious hunger in the AdMec.
> >
> > The Imperial Guard will be in the odd position of commanding attention from the locals that is usually reserved for Church members. Astute players will be able to parlay this for information and any reasonable request will be met with efficency. Adeptus Munitorium members will have records request provided upon request, but requests of the Sectors production capacity will be fragmanetary at best (Which should raise a red flag, but smart officers will be able to spot distrust faily quickly). Also, any form of threats from the Munitorium will result in information drying up like water ona red hot gridle.
> >
> > The Imperial Navy and Rogue Traders will positively cry when they see a local version of a naval yard, as it will match those near Holy Terra or Holy Mars easily. The impression that should be given is that the Cluster has not lost any of it's technological might.
> >
> > more ot come
> >
> > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "David" <daveolloyd@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy somewhere :-) The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests are secretly supplying the Chaos Space Marines. Or maybe the Sisters of Battle have degenerated into a heretical cult. Hmmm. Further investigation are careful monitoring are clearly needed.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David.
> > >
> > > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the 40k galaxy (called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer chaos of 40k), but here are the highlights:
> > > >
> > > > The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds (as Yet unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus Heresy, with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there (a convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
> > > >
> > > > The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme Commadant-Militant (a locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating military production and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy forces. Troops from this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and repair of equipment, but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of knowledge the average IG solider, not to mention local knows.
> > > >
> > > > The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly professional, not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
> > > >
> > > > All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are excpetionally efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local version of the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly replicated ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is common and seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of technology, the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be thought of, including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well as Titans
> > > >
> > > > All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to exceptional quality.
> > > >
> > > > The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and trying to tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are loyal to The Emperor with out question.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster harkens back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed Lightning Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
> > > >
> > > > The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The Adeptus Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and Commissars (which are treated like royalty).
> > > >
> > > > The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church functions are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial areas). however, Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
> > > >
> > > > Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to serve an almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster will be politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if needbe) to keep them from interfering with operations.
> > > >
> > > > The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau (would sound close to Eldar Description) , or the Tryanid (would not really comprehend the idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to them). Orks and the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and they hate them with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls for no readily apparent reason.
> > > >
> > > > They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those that don't.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the Inquisition.
> > > >
> > > > This isa light once over. comments are welcome
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



#428 From: "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 2:25 am
Subject: Re: Working on a Setting
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An inherently logical supposition (as much as can apply to the Warp), which if
players do ask around, they would find out that the locals thought it was the
35th century and not eh 42nd. So it's a partial explanation of thier technology
being what it is and general health of the place, as it has had relatively few
external attacks (comparitively speaking), and thier battle preparedness.

Other things the players and imperium would not is that htey have become adept
at stripping dead systems for resoruces or turning them into Armory Worlds and
ForgeWorlds that seem to exceed the legendary capabilites of the Imperium at the
Time of the Horus Heresy (given 5 milennia of development under a relative
stress for battle readiness and you begin to get the idea).

General equipment quality is exceptional and high in reliablity. Given that The
Cluster inhabitants can reproduce any template the Imperium has and seemingly
improve on it, as well as produce many long lost templates with little effort,
is going to make the Adeptus Mechanicus drek sideways and cause all sorts of
headaches between the Twin Empires (Holy Terra and Holy Mars respectively) back
in The Sol Sector.

The Jewel Sector is more of a Mega-Sector and easily matches the Tau Empire in
sheer size, if not technological might. Which Leaves the Imperium in a rather
odd position as to what to do with them. The Locals aren't disloyal as far as
can be really called out on. Devotionals to The Emperor and His Archangels, The
Loyalist Primarchs are common Iconography, and membership in The Imperial Guard
is a much sought after social mobility enhancer. They just seem to be quite
guarded about the Ecclisiarchy and the Adeptus Mechanicus, but trust the Offices
Of the Departmento Munitoriam almost implicitly (Almost being the keyword, as
the aren't sure about how the Outside may have changed in the last few thousand
years, and they aren't impressed by what they've seen so far).

Cultural oddities to keep in mind: The Local Version of the Imperial Guard,
while polite and has followed it previous orders to the letter, doesn't
recognize the Ecclisiarchy (With the exception of the Sisters of Battle) or the
Adeptus Mechanicus as having ANY Authority over them. they are polite, but firm
in this regard, and attempts with threats will result in subduing of the
offender in question and Permanent Ejection from the Cluster....under pain of
Death.

Other Issues: Asking them about Eldar will get a rather strange look from a
local as they ask, "Um, tall Xeno's right. With pointy helmets?" Some sections
of the local guard Would shudder slightly at the name and want to switch to
another conversation (They've run into the Dark Eldar on occasion as they've
dropped through the warp storm by accident).

Local grasp of Technology and how to repair it is about equal to 21st century
acceptance level of such things and literacy is very high. Translation:
technological knowledge is not considered a bad thing, it's only the improper
application of it that is considered tech-heresy. Which the Adeptus Mechanicus
can help but agree with...and remain non hypocritical. the are might even be a
great recruiting center for them....if they could get past the fact they aren't
particularly trusted.

The Ecclisiarchy faces a problem of Dogma: Namely the local dogma that is so
ingrained into the people that asking if they Believe in The Emperor will get a
strange look (of the sort of one expecting a coo-coo bird to pop out of their
head). Any attempt to bring them over to the Imperial Dogma (with the
Ecclisiarchy in the middle) will geta distinctly unfriendly look and mutterings
of "Symoni" or "Tithe-Thief" will be heard.


And now the conspiracy nuggets:

Any relatively sane Inquisitor is going to ask, "How did this place get this way
without self-destructing?" Well, there is a reason. And it's one best left to
the imagination of the GM. My take on it is that the Illuminati and the Sensei
were behind the shearing off of the Cluster (still working on that bit).

again...thoughts are welcome

--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Chad" <calico_jack73@...> wrote:
>
> You know... if I were playing in this I'd guess that the whole cluster was
actually ripped through time by the warp storms from the period immediately
following the Horus Heresy.  It would explain their technology and ignorance of
some of the more newly discovered xenos races.  It would also explain the
crossed lightning bolt symbol.  The revrence of the Emperor as a Divine Being
could have come from the early imperial cult spread from the words in the
Lectitio Divinitatus.
>
> "SUFFER NOT THE WITCH TO LIVE"
>
> --- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, it's more of a confluence of several issues that will keep the players
busy in the area.
> >
> > The first and most obvious to those who skimmed over the Disciples of the
Dark Gods is that The Jewel Cluster (more accurately a MegaSector with thousands
of inhabited, well developed worlds) has for it's version of the Ecclisiarchy a
rather perverse variation on the Temple Tendency with a significant portion of
it's beliefs that The Emperor is Divine in Nature much like the Temple Tendency.
Unlike the Tendency which has the power rooted firmly in the Ecclisiarchy, The
Jewel Cluster variation of the Ecclisiarchy has the Power rooted firmly in The
Emperor and The Inquisition.
> >     As to the exact reason for this, can be left for GM's to develop, but a
pronounced distrust of Ecclisiarch Authority will be evident, but strangely not
the Inqusition.
> >
> > The Adeptus Mechanicus's response to the level of technology in the Cluster
will caus esimultanious consternation and the closest thing it's felt to fear in
millenia, As the cluster appears to have lost none of it's technology base from
the time of the Heresy and appears to have preheresy technology within it's
grasp (from first glance). To further frustrate things, the Adeptus Mechanicus
will be kept under surveillance while in the area and the local version has been
subordinated to the local IG (A perversion of the Natural Order). On the other
hand, The locals seem to be more than willing to share tehcnology, but not
relinquish it as they can spot the obvious hunger in the AdMec.
> >
> > The Imperial Guard will be in the odd position of commanding attention from
the locals that is usually reserved for Church members. Astute players will be
able to parlay this for information and any reasonable request will be met with
efficency. Adeptus Munitorium members will have records request provided upon
request, but requests of the Sectors production capacity will be fragmanetary at
best (Which should raise a red flag, but smart officers will be able to spot
distrust faily quickly). Also, any form of threats from the Munitorium will
result in information drying up like water ona red hot gridle.
> >
> > The Imperial Navy and Rogue Traders will positively cry when they see a
local version of a naval yard, as it will match those near Holy Terra or Holy
Mars easily. The impression that should be given is that the Cluster has not
lost any of it's technological might.
> >
> > more ot come
> >
> > --- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveolloyd@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy
somewhere :-)  The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests
are secretly supplying the Chaos Space Marines.  Or maybe the Sisters of Battle
have degenerated into a heretical cult.  Hmmm.  Further investigation are
careful monitoring are clearly needed.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David.
> > >
> > > --- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the 40k
galaxy (called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer
chaos of 40k), but here are the highlights:
> > > >
> > > > The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds (as
Yet unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus Heresy,
with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there (a
convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
> > > >
> > > > The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme
Commadant-Militant (a locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating
military production and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy
forces. Troops from this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and
repair of equipment, but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of
knowledge the average IG solider, not to mention local knows.
> > > >
> > > > The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly
professional, not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
> > > >
> > > > All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are
excpetionally efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local
version of the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly
replicated ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is
common and seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of
technology, the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be
thought of, including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well
as Titans
> > > >
> > > > All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to
exceptional quality.
> > > >
> > > > The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and
trying to tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are
loyal to The Emperor with out question.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster
harkens back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed
Lightning Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
> > > >
> > > > The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The
Adeptus Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and
Commissars (which are treated like royalty).
> > > >
> > > > The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church
functions are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial
areas). however, Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
> > > >
> > > > Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to
serve an almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster
will be politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if
needbe) to keep them from interfering with operations.
> > > >
> > > > The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau (would
sound close to Eldar Description), or the Tryanid (would not really comprehend
the idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to them). Orks
and the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and they hate
them with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls
for no readily apparent reason.
> > > >
> > > > They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless
meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those
that don't.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.
> > > >
> > > > This isa light once over. comments are welcome
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#427 From: "Chad" <calico_jack73@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: Working on a Setting
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You know... if I were playing in this I'd guess that the whole cluster was
actually ripped through time by the warp storms from the period immediately
following the Horus Heresy.  It would explain their technology and ignorance of
some of the more newly discovered xenos races.  It would also explain the
crossed lightning bolt symbol.  The revrence of the Emperor as a Divine Being
could have come from the early imperial cult spread from the words in the
Lectitio Divinitatus.

"SUFFER NOT THE WITCH TO LIVE"

--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, it's more of a confluence of several issues that will keep the players
busy in the area.
>
> The first and most obvious to those who skimmed over the Disciples of the Dark
Gods is that The Jewel Cluster (more accurately a MegaSector with thousands of
inhabited, well developed worlds) has for it's version of the Ecclisiarchy a
rather perverse variation on the Temple Tendency with a significant portion of
it's beliefs that The Emperor is Divine in Nature much like the Temple Tendency.
Unlike the Tendency which has the power rooted firmly in the Ecclisiarchy, The
Jewel Cluster variation of the Ecclisiarchy has the Power rooted firmly in The
Emperor and The Inquisition.
>     As to the exact reason for this, can be left for GM's to develop, but a
pronounced distrust of Ecclisiarch Authority will be evident, but strangely not
the Inqusition.
>
> The Adeptus Mechanicus's response to the level of technology in the Cluster
will caus esimultanious consternation and the closest thing it's felt to fear in
millenia, As the cluster appears to have lost none of it's technology base from
the time of the Heresy and appears to have preheresy technology within it's
grasp (from first glance). To further frustrate things, the Adeptus Mechanicus
will be kept under surveillance while in the area and the local version has been
subordinated to the local IG (A perversion of the Natural Order). On the other
hand, The locals seem to be more than willing to share tehcnology, but not
relinquish it as they can spot the obvious hunger in the AdMec.
>
> The Imperial Guard will be in the odd position of commanding attention from
the locals that is usually reserved for Church members. Astute players will be
able to parlay this for information and any reasonable request will be met with
efficency. Adeptus Munitorium members will have records request provided upon
request, but requests of the Sectors production capacity will be fragmanetary at
best (Which should raise a red flag, but smart officers will be able to spot
distrust faily quickly). Also, any form of threats from the Munitorium will
result in information drying up like water ona red hot gridle.
>
> The Imperial Navy and Rogue Traders will positively cry when they see a local
version of a naval yard, as it will match those near Holy Terra or Holy Mars
easily. The impression that should be given is that the Cluster has not lost any
of it's technological might.
>
> more ot come
>
> --- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveolloyd@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy
somewhere :-)  The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests
are secretly supplying the Chaos Space Marines.  Or maybe the Sisters of Battle
have degenerated into a heretical cult.  Hmmm.  Further investigation are
careful monitoring are clearly needed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David.
> >
> > --- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the 40k
galaxy (called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer
chaos of 40k), but here are the highlights:
> > >
> > > The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds (as
Yet unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus Heresy,
with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there (a
convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
> > >
> > > The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme Commadant-Militant
(a locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating military
production and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy forces.
Troops from this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and repair of
equipment, but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of knowledge
the average IG solider, not to mention local knows.
> > >
> > > The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly
professional, not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
> > >
> > > All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are
excpetionally efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local
version of the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly
replicated ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is
common and seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of
technology, the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be
thought of, including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well
as Titans
> > >
> > > All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to
exceptional quality.
> > >
> > > The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and trying
to tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are loyal to
The Emperor with out question.
> > >
> > >
> > > Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster
harkens back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed
Lightning Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
> > >
> > > The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The
Adeptus Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and
Commissars (which are treated like royalty).
> > >
> > > The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church
functions are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial
areas). however, Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
> > >
> > > Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to serve
an almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster will be
politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if needbe) to
keep them from interfering with operations.
> > >
> > > The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau (would
sound close to Eldar Description), or the Tryanid (would not really comprehend
the idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to them). Orks
and the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and they hate
them with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
> > >
> > > An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls for
no readily apparent reason.
> > >
> > > They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless
meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those
that don't.
> > >
> > > That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.
> > >
> > > This isa light once over. comments are welcome
> > >
> >
>

#426 From: "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
Date: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:33 am
Subject: Re: Working on a Setting
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Well, it's more of a confluence of several issues that will keep the players
busy in the area.

The first and most obvious to those who skimmed over the Disciples of the Dark
Gods is that The Jewel Cluster (more accurately a MegaSector with thousands of
inhabited, well developed worlds) has for it's version of the Ecclisiarchy a
rather perverse variation on the Temple Tendency with a significant portion of
it's beliefs that The Emperor is Divine in Nature much like the Temple Tendency.
Unlike the Tendency which has the power rooted firmly in the Ecclisiarchy, The
Jewel Cluster variation of the Ecclisiarchy has the Power rooted firmly in The
Emperor and The Inquisition.
     As to the exact reason for this, can be left for GM's to develop, but a
pronounced distrust of Ecclisiarch Authority will be evident, but strangely not
the Inqusition.

The Adeptus Mechanicus's response to the level of technology in the Cluster will
caus esimultanious consternation and the closest thing it's felt to fear in
millenia, As the cluster appears to have lost none of it's technology base from
the time of the Heresy and appears to have preheresy technology within it's
grasp (from first glance). To further frustrate things, the Adeptus Mechanicus
will be kept under surveillance while in the area and the local version has been
subordinated to the local IG (A perversion of the Natural Order). On the other
hand, The locals seem to be more than willing to share tehcnology, but not
relinquish it as they can spot the obvious hunger in the AdMec.

The Imperial Guard will be in the odd position of commanding attention from the
locals that is usually reserved for Church members. Astute players will be able
to parlay this for information and any reasonable request will be met with
efficency. Adeptus Munitorium members will have records request provided upon
request, but requests of the Sectors production capacity will be fragmanetary at
best (Which should raise a red flag, but smart officers will be able to spot
distrust faily quickly). Also, any form of threats from the Munitorium will
result in information drying up like water ona red hot gridle.

The Imperial Navy and Rogue Traders will positively cry when they see a local
version of a naval yard, as it will match those near Holy Terra or Holy Mars
easily. The impression that should be given is that the Cluster has not lost any
of it's technological might.

more ot come

--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveolloyd@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy
somewhere :-)  The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests
are secretly supplying the Chaos Space Marines.  Or maybe the Sisters of Battle
have degenerated into a heretical cult.  Hmmm.  Further investigation are
careful monitoring are clearly needed.
>
> Thanks,
> David.
>
> --- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@> wrote:
> >
> > this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the 40k
galaxy (called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer
chaos of 40k), but here are the highlights:
> >
> > The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds (as Yet
unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus Heresy,
with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there (a
convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
> >
> > The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme Commadant-Militant
(a locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating military
production and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy forces.
Troops from this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and repair of
equipment, but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of knowledge
the average IG solider, not to mention local knows.
> >
> > The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly
professional, not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
> >
> > All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are
excpetionally efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local
version of the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly
replicated ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is
common and seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of
technology, the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be
thought of, including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well
as Titans
> >
> > All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to
exceptional quality.
> >
> > The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and trying
to tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are loyal to
The Emperor with out question.
> >
> >
> > Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster harkens
back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed Lightning
Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
> >
> > The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The
Adeptus Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and
Commissars (which are treated like royalty).
> >
> > The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church
functions are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial
areas). however, Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
> >
> > Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to serve an
almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster will be
politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if needbe) to
keep them from interfering with operations.
> >
> > The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau (would
sound close to Eldar Description), or the Tryanid (would not really comprehend
the idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to them). Orks
and the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and they hate
them with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
> >
> > An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls for no
readily apparent reason.
> >
> > They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless
meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those
that don't.
> >
> > That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.
> >
> > This isa light once over. comments are welcome
> >
>

#425 From: "David" <daveolloyd@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Working on a Setting
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Hi!

Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy somewhere
:-)  The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests are secretly
supplying the Chaos Space Marines.  Or maybe the Sisters of Battle have
degenerated into a heretical cult.  Hmmm.  Further investigation are careful
monitoring are clearly needed.

Thanks,
David.

--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
wrote:
>
> this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the 40k galaxy
(called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer chaos of
40k), but here are the highlights:
>
> The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds (as Yet
unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus Heresy,
with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there (a
convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
>
> The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme Commadant-Militant (a
locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating military production
and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy forces. Troops from
this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and repair of equipment,
but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of knowledge the average
IG solider, not to mention local knows.
>
> The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly professional,
not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
>
> All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are excpetionally
efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local version of
the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly replicated
ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is common and
seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of technology,
the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be thought of,
including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well as Titans
>
> All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to
exceptional quality.
>
> The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and trying to
tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are loyal to The
Emperor with out question.
>
>
> Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster harkens
back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed Lightning
Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
>
> The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The Adeptus
Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and Commissars
(which are treated like royalty).
>
> The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church functions
are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial areas). however,
Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
>
> Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to serve an
almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster will be
politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if needbe) to
keep them from interfering with operations.
>
> The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau (would sound
close to Eldar Description), or the Tryanid (would not really comprehend the
idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to them). Orks and
the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and they hate them
with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
>
> An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls for no
readily apparent reason.
>
> They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless
meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those
that don't.
>
> That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.
>
> This isa light once over. comments are welcome
>

#424 From: "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@...>
Date: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:54 am
Subject: Working on a Setting
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this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the 40k galaxy
(called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer chaos of
40k), but here are the highlights:

The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds (as Yet
unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus Heresy,
with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there (a
convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up

The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme Commadant-Militant (a
locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating military production
and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy forces. Troops from
this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and repair of equipment,
but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of knowledge the average
IG solider, not to mention local knows.

The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly professional,
not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).

All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are excpetionally
efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local version of
the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly replicated
ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is common and
seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of technology,
the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be thought of,
including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well as Titans

All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to exceptional
quality.

The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and trying to
tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are loyal to The
Emperor with out question.


Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster harkens
back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed Lightning
Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.

The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The Adeptus
Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and Commissars
(which are treated like royalty).

The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church functions
are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial areas). however,
Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.

Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to serve an
almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster will be
politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if needbe) to
keep them from interfering with operations.

The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau (would sound
close to Eldar Description), or the Tryanid (would not really comprehend the
idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to them). Orks and
the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and they hate them
with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.

An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls for no
readily apparent reason.

They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless meritiocracy
when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those that don't.

That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.

This isa light once over. comments are welcome

#423 From: "David" <daveolloyd@...>
Date: Tue Mar 3, 2009 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Creatures Anathema?
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Thanks everyone!

I heard a number of good things from the advance reviews, so I guess
that I'll just have to exercise patience.


--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Flory" <samflory@...> wrote:
>
> Amazon might be a bit iffy.  You'll get it, but it may take a while.
> You've got a better shot at getting a copy now at your local gaming
> store, or online like NobleKnight.com.
>
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=70&efcid=3&efidt\
=77452
>
> PS- Personally I'm going with Amazon for the price. (I get free 2 day
> shipping, and don't pay tax.)  But then I'm not currently running DH.
>

#422 From: "Sam Flory" <samflory@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: Creatures Anathema?
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Amazon might be a bit iffy.  You'll get it, but it may take a while.
You've got a better shot at getting a copy now at your local gaming
store, or online like NobleKnight.com.
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=70&efcid=3&efidt\
=77452

PS- Personally I'm going with Amazon for the price. (I get free 2 day
shipping, and don't pay tax.)  But then I'm not currently running DH.

#421 From: Jason Lieuallen <lieuallen@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Creatures Anathema?
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I got my from my friendly local game store a week or so back, but I actually have not done much reading.  From my perusal, it basically has tons of information about creatures of various sorts.  Information on death worlds, alien creatures, xenos (as opposed to wildlife, this is stuff like eldar and so forth).  There is also a section on technology that is forbidden.  And there is space for mutations.
 
The book is packed with "adventure seeds," which are little blurbs inset that are scattered about 1 to every 1-2 pages.  They discuss an idea to build an adventure around something in that relevant section.
 
The end features a very nice section on how to use the three main themes (human heretics, aliens, and daemons) in adventures when building/writing/structuring your own story.  This is by far the most useful section to me, as it discusses a framework for how to get started and really helps.  I've read a lot of fiction but still feel uncomfortable running adventures that are not pre-made for me, so I'm excited to see this as it gives me hope that I can work out my own stuff later.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Tallknight <Tallknight@...> wrote:

I ordered it from amazon and it is suppose to be shipping out and I think I should get it either this thrusday or next week
Tallknight




On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Mike Willner <willner90@...> wrote:

David, I saw Amazon has pre-orders, but not the book itself yet.




On 3/2/09 3:53 PM, "David" <daveolloyd@...> wrote:


 

Hi!

I understand that Creatures Anathema is available (at least several
sellers have it listed on eBay), but I have not found a copy.  Does
anyone have one and have any comments?

Thanks,
David.

  
    





#420 From: Tallknight <Tallknight@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Creatures Anathema?
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I ordered it from amazon and it is suppose to be shipping out and I think I should get it either this thrusday or next week
Tallknight


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Mike Willner <willner90@...> wrote:

David, I saw Amazon has pre-orders, but not the book itself yet.




On 3/2/09 3:53 PM, "David" <daveolloyd@...> wrote:


 

Hi!

I understand that Creatures Anathema is available (at least several
sellers have it listed on eBay), but I have not found a copy.  Does
anyone have one and have any comments?

Thanks,
David.

  
    




#419 From: Mike Willner <willner90@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: Creatures Anathema?
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David, I saw Amazon has pre-orders, but not the book itself yet.


On 3/2/09 3:53 PM, "David" <daveolloyd@...> wrote:


 

Hi!

I understand that Creatures Anathema is available (at least several
sellers have it listed on eBay), but I have not found a copy.  Does
anyone have one and have any comments?

Thanks,
David.

  
    



#418 From: "David" <daveolloyd@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:53 pm
Subject: Creatures Anathema?
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Hi!

I understand that Creatures Anathema is available (at least several
sellers have it listed on eBay), but I have not found a copy.  Does
anyone have one and have any comments?

Thanks,
David.

#417 From: "John" <igrecruiter40k@...>
Date: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:28 pm
Subject: Online Warhammer 40K Gaming
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Online Warhammer 40K Gaming

I represent the Hollow World Gaming Community, which run numerous
PBEM games set in the 40K Universe. We are currently looking for both
players and for those interested in joining our Game Master Corps.
Here is a link to our main site, followed by a list of our games.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorld40K

Space Wolves – This is a game featuring the beloved Space Wolves. It
is currently very active, with 3 GMs and is split into two plot
threads. New characters are welcome.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldSW

Dark Angels – This game is just starting up, and will feature the
Dark Angels hunting the Fallen. We currently have 4 GMs working to
create this game, and are accepting new characters.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldDA

Imperial Guard – This game is currently inactive, but has an ongoing
plot thread and numerous active players. If anyone is interested in
helping to run this game, please contact me.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldIG

Imperial Navy – This game is still active, but the GM has dropped out
due to other obligations. This is based on Battlefleet Gothic and
Tactica Aeronautica, and features ship-to-ship combat, fighter
combat, and ground troops. This is our next project to jump start,
and we are looking for both new players and several GMs to run
different aspects of play.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldIN

Adeptus Mechanicus – This game is very active, and features a group
of Skitaari, Tech Priests, Enginseers, Adepts and Titan Legion Nobles
as they search for a previously undiscovered STC. New players are
always welcome.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldAM

Grey Knights – This group has just been rebooted, and revolves around
a group of Grey Knights and their Imperial Assassin counterparts, as
they seek to fight a chaos-spawned plague.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldGK

Deathwatch – This game features a fighting force of Elite Deathwatch
Marines, and is one of our most popular, due to the fact that it can
include marines from any chapter. Unfortunaely, our GM has just gone
inactive, after completing the last adventure, so the game is
currently on hold. We are looking for new players and GMs for this
game.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldDW


Sisters of Battle – This game has some good characters and good
potential, but has never gotten properly started. Obviously, it will
revolve around sisters of the Adeptus Sororitas, and we are looking
for both new players and Game Masters.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldSB

Daemonhunters – This is currently our most active and most popular
game, and is a fairly straightforward Dark Heresy style game. It
currently has 2 active and 2 Reserve GMs, and plenty of players,
although more are always welcome.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldDH

Tau Empire – This game is slow, as the GM is redeploying from Iraq
back to the US (yay) and features Tua, Kroot, Vespid, Demiurg, Human
and other races of the Tau Empire. The GM could probably use some
additional help with the GMing and new players as well.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldTE

Eldar Alliance – This game features a group and Craftworld, Dark,
Exodite, Corsair and Harlequin Eldar. It is very slow, and could use
new GMs and new players.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldEL

Chaos – This game features various Chaos Characters, and could use
new players.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/HollowWorldCSM

If anyone has interest in playing or GMing, to include starting up a
new game, (although we'd prefer to get our old games moving first)
please contact me.

BlkSabbath74@...

#416 From: "salcor3052" <salcor3052@...>
Date: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:49 pm
Subject: Peacekeeper's website
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Peacekeeper,
     I was wondering if your website has moved or is it down?


Salcor

#415 From: "Adam Bisher" <wolfcraze@...>
Date: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:41 pm
Subject: The Slaugth
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#414 From: "joseph.davis2008" <Drake_Masters@...>
Date: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:36 am
Subject: Re: The T'au
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sorry...  my bad.  I did however mean the empire itself, (battlesuits,
weapons, habits, etc...) similar to how the Orks and Necron were done.
  But I do apologize for the slip up... :(

#413 From: "Chris" <peacekeeper_b@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:19 pm
Subject: Hey all.
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I really have been absent lately from working on Dark Heresy stuff,
but work does continue on my web site. Im hoping to do a complete
overhaul within the next few months.

As many of you know I am military and that is taking up a lot of my
time right now. But rest assured, an entry on the Terrelian Dog
Soldiers is on its way.

Also, since i never posted it here, I will do so now.

In honor of the creatures anathema coming out in a few months UA is
holding a contest. It extends till March or so and I will post the
winner by mid march, depending on when I get back from my mission.

The contest is a creature/encounter contest. Either submit a
monster/critter (2 pages, 12 point font minimum, a picture is nice
as well) that is either a) completely original or b) so obscure a
40K thing that it wont be in Creatures Anathem. The contest was also
modified to honor Disciples of the Dark Gods in that organizations
are also acceptable, but they must be at least 3 or 4 pages long and
have art work as well.

First place gets a copy of Creatures Anathema and Disciples of the
Dark Gods.

Second place gets Creatures Anathema.

Multiple entries are welcome.

#412 From: Nathan Dowdell <npdowdell@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:58 am
Subject: Re: The T'au
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Minor point, because this is something that I find rather irritating.

The species is called the Tau. No apostrophe. Their homeworld is called T'au, but they aren't.


From: joseph.davis2008 <Drake_Masters@...>
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Sent: Saturday, 17 January, 2009 7:02:39
Subject: [dark_heresy] The T'au

So, I've perused the files section and such, and was wondering, does
no one have love for the T'au? I haven't seen much on them, and I
personally consider them my favorite Xeno. Anyone got any rough ideas
on how the T'au (to a lesser extent Kroot and Vespid) would work.


#411 From: "joseph.davis2008" <Drake_Masters@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:02 am
Subject: The T'au
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So, I've perused the files section and such, and was wondering, does
no one have love for the T'au?  I haven't seen much on them, and I
personally consider them my favorite Xeno.  Anyone got any rough ideas
on how the T'au (to a lesser extent Kroot and Vespid) would work.

#410 From: "John Rowe" <jtr@...>
Date: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:58 pm
Subject: New member and new PBEM...
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G'day.

Bought myself the Dark Heresy rulebook and the Inquisitor's Handbook for
Christmas.  I like the look of them and have resolved to set up a pbem using
these rules.

I'm tentatively planning on running a group of acolytes controlled by an
Ordo Hereticus inquisitor.  I'm planning to create my own sector on the rim
of the galaxy not too far from the Calixis Sector.  Creating a whole new
sector is a big job so I'm planning on starting small - with the characters'
city - and expanding out as the characters develop.

I'm not sure what sort of characters people most like to play, or whether
there will be much interest.  I hope so.

If the standard acolyte campaign is not to everyone's taste, then I might be
persuaded to look at either an Imperial Guard-based game, or an Underhive
campaign.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dark_Heresy_Bedlam_Sector/

I've been around a bit, I've run a few pbems and played in
who-knows-how-many so I'm not a newbie and I like to keep my games going.

If you're interested, please come along and we can talk about campaign and
character ideas.

Merry Christmas and all that.

John

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