After rereading the Temple Tendency section, I think the Tendency would utterly
hate the Jewel Sector, in that they don't trust the Ecclisiarchy or The Adeptus
Mechanicus, and all the tithes that normall go toward the Church and the Ad Mech
are channelled towards thier manufactories and infrastructure. Plus the Doctrine
of Transmogrification, wherein, while cybernetic implantation is the path
towards closness with the Omnissiah, it's not for everyone, nor should it be
attempted.

which will Drive most AdMech up the wall, as it's a not quiet heresy and trying
to convince the locals of it otherwise will typically end up in failure as
confusion of doctrine will end up with different intepretations.

other conspriacy nuggets:

The rather low incidence of psychers should raise red flags to most players with
the obvious question: where are all of them? Also a rather low incidence of
mutation (visible in any rate) is also a cause for concern. The locals tend to
play this close to the vest and seem to want to speak of other things.



--- In dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com, "D.R. Schumpert" <johnnywellon@...> wrote:
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> Re: distrust of the ecclisiarchy and conspiracies, you may want to take a look
at the Temple Tendency in Disciples of the Dark Gods.  Other than acceptance of
Sororitas (Temple Tendancy hates them and considers them traitors to the true
faith) the Temple Tendancy seems to fit fairly well with your cluster's view of
the emperor
>
> --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Saul William Schimek <julianxsj@...> wrote:
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> From: Saul William Schimek <julianxsj@...>
> Subject: [dark_heresy] Re: Working on a Setting
> To: dark_heresy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 10:25 PM
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> An inherently logical supposition (as much as can apply to the Warp), which if
players do ask around, they would find out that the locals thought it was the
35th century and not eh 42nd. So it's a partial explanation of thier technology
being what it is and general health of the place, as it has had relatively few
external attacks (comparitively speaking), and thier battle preparedness.
>
> Other things the players and imperium would not is that htey have become adept
at stripping dead systems for resoruces or turning them into Armory Worlds and
ForgeWorlds that seem to exceed the legendary capabilites of the Imperium at the
Time of the Horus Heresy (given 5 milennia of development under a relative
stress for battle readiness and you begin to get the idea).
>
> General equipment quality is exceptional and high in reliablity. Given that
The Cluster inhabitants can reproduce any template the Imperium has and
seemingly improve on it, as well as produce many long lost templates with little
effort, is going to make the Adeptus Mechanicus drek sideways and cause all
sorts of headaches between the Twin Empires (Holy Terra and Holy Mars
respectively) back in The Sol Sector.
>
> The Jewel Sector is more of a Mega-Sector and easily matches the Tau Empire in
sheer size, if not technological might. Which Leaves the Imperium in a rather
odd position as to what to do with them. The Locals aren't disloyal as far as
can be really called out on. Devotionals to The Emperor and His Archangels, The
Loyalist Primarchs are common Iconography, and membership in The Imperial Guard
is a much sought after social mobility enhancer. They just seem to be quite
guarded about the Ecclisiarchy and the Adeptus Mechanicus, but trust the Offices
Of the Departmento Munitoriam almost implicitly (Almost being the keyword, as
the aren't sure about how the Outside may have changed in the last few thousand
years, and they aren't impressed by what they've seen so far).
>
> Cultural oddities to keep in mind: The Local Version of the Imperial Guard,
while polite and has followed it previous orders to the letter, doesn't
recognize the Ecclisiarchy (With the exception of the Sisters of Battle) or the
Adeptus Mechanicus as having ANY Authority over them. they are polite, but firm
in this regard, and attempts with threats will result in subduing of the
offender in question and Permanent Ejection from the Cluster....under pain of
Death.
>
> Other Issues: Asking them about Eldar will get a rather strange look from a
local as they ask, "Um, tall Xeno's right. With pointy helmets?" Some sections
of the local guard Would shudder slightly at the name and want to switch to
another conversation (They've run into the Dark Eldar on occasion as they've
dropped through the warp storm by accident).
>
> Local grasp of Technology and how to repair it is about equal to 21st century
acceptance level of such things and literacy is very high. Translation:
technological knowledge is not considered a bad thing, it's only the improper
application of it that is considered tech-heresy. Which the Adeptus Mechanicus
can help but agree with...and remain non hypocritical. the are might even be a
great recruiting center for them....if they could get past the fact they aren't
particularly trusted.
>
> The Ecclisiarchy faces a problem of Dogma: Namely the local dogma that is so
ingrained into the people that asking if they Believe in The Emperor will get a
strange look (of the sort of one expecting a coo-coo bird to pop out of their
head). Any attempt to bring them over to the Imperial Dogma (with the
Ecclisiarchy in the middle) will geta distinctly unfriendly look and mutterings
of "Symoni" or "Tithe-Thief" will be heard.
>
> And now the conspiracy nuggets:
>
> Any relatively sane Inquisitor is going to ask, "How did this place get this
way without self-destructing? " Well, there is a reason. And it's one best left
to the imagination of the GM. My take on it is that the Illuminati and the
Sensei were behind the shearing off of the Cluster (still working on that bit).
>
> again...thoughts are welcome
>
> --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Chad" <calico_jack73@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > You know... if I were playing in this I'd guess that the whole cluster was
actually ripped through time by the warp storms from the period immediately
following the Horus Heresy. It would explain their technology and ignorance of
some of the more newly discovered xenos races. It would also explain the crossed
lightning bolt symbol. The revrence of the Emperor as a Divine Being could have
come from the early imperial cult spread from the words in the Lectitio
Divinitatus.
> >
> > "SUFFER NOT THE WITCH TO LIVE"
> >
> > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Saul William Schimek" <julianxsj@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, it's more of a confluence of several issues that will keep the
players busy in the area.
> > >
> > > The first and most obvious to those who skimmed over the Disciples of the
Dark Gods is that The Jewel Cluster (more accurately a MegaSector with thousands
of inhabited, well developed worlds) has for it's version of the Ecclisiarchy a
rather perverse variation on the Temple Tendency with a significant portion of
it's beliefs that The Emperor is Divine in Nature much like the Temple Tendency.
Unlike the Tendency which has the power rooted firmly in the Ecclisiarchy, The
Jewel Cluster variation of the Ecclisiarchy has the Power rooted firmly in The
Emperor and The Inquisition.
> > > As to the exact reason for this, can be left for GM's to develop, but a
pronounced distrust of Ecclisiarch Authority will be evident, but strangely not
the Inqusition.
> > >
> > > The Adeptus Mechanicus's response to the level of technology in the
Cluster will caus esimultanious consternation and the closest thing it's felt to
fear in millenia, As the cluster appears to have lost none of it's technology
base from the time of the Heresy and appears to have preheresy technology within
it's grasp (from first glance). To further frustrate things, the Adeptus
Mechanicus will be kept under surveillance while in the area and the local
version has been subordinated to the local IG (A perversion of the Natural
Order). On the other hand, The locals seem to be more than willing to share
tehcnology, but not relinquish it as they can spot the obvious hunger in the
AdMec.
> > >
> > > The Imperial Guard will be in the odd position of commanding attention
from the locals that is usually reserved for Church members. Astute players will
be able to parlay this for information and any reasonable request will be met
with efficency. Adeptus Munitorium members will have records request provided
upon request, but requests of the Sectors production capacity will be
fragmanetary at best (Which should raise a red flag, but smart officers will be
able to spot distrust faily quickly). Also, any form of threats from the
Munitorium will result in information drying up like water ona red hot gridle.
> > >
> > > The Imperial Navy and Rogue Traders will positively cry when they see a
local version of a naval yard, as it will match those near Holy Terra or Holy
Mars easily. The impression that should be given is that the Cluster has not
lost any of it's technological might.
> > >
> > > more ot come
> > >
> > > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "David" <daveolloyd@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Well, in order to qualify as Warhammer 40K, there must be a conspiracy
somewhere :-) The church is too obvious, so I'll guess that the Tech Priests are
secretly supplying the Chaos Space Marines. Or maybe the Sisters of Battle have
degenerated into a heretical cult. Hmmm. Further investigation are careful
monitoring are clearly needed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > David.
> > > >
> > > > --- In dark_heresy@ yahoogroups. com, "Saul William Schimek"
<julianxsj@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > this is some rough notes on a place I call the Jewel Cluster in the
40k galaxy (called as such as the worlds have managed to miss most of the sheer
chaos of 40k), but here are the highlights:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jewel Cluster is actually a exceptionally large amount of worlds
(as Yet unspecified) that had been hidden behind warp storms since the Horus
Heresy, with occasional people from later on dropping in and getting stuck there
(a convent of Sisters of Battle in one notable area), and only recently have the
storms fallen away for them to poke thier heads up
> > > > >
> > > > > The cluster is under the Unified Command of the Supreme
Commadant-Militant (a locally evolved Imperial Guard over-structure coordinating
military production and levies) that controls the local IG and Imperial Navy
forces. Troops from this area are exceptionally well versed in maintenance and
repair of equipment, but most tech-preists would be horrified by the level of
knowledge the average IG solider, not to mention local knows.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Imperial Navy is exceptionally well maintained and is highly
professional, not to mention vast in numbers (comparitively speaking).
> > > > >
> > > > > All equipment is well maintained and the local Forge-Worlds are
excpetionally efficent in turning out new equipment. More importantly, the local
version of the Adeptus Mechanicus has FAR more STC's intact....and seemingly
replicated ones than the Imperium and the AdMec would like. Plasma Tech is
common and seemingly easy to have repaired. In short, while not the lost age of
technology, the Jewel Cluster's manufactories can roll out anything that can be
thought of, including new IN vessels that cannot be produced elsewhere as well
as Titans
> > > > >
> > > > > All Jewel Cluster hardware is designed to be reliable and of good to
exceptional quality.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jewel Cluster worships the Emperor and the Omnissiah as one and
trying to tell locals otherwise is a good way to start a fight. But they are
loyal to The Emperor with out question.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Peculiarites that players may notice: The Iconography of the Cluster
harkens back to the Time of The Emperor and the Primarchs, with Dual Crossed
Lightning Bolts, instead of the Skull-Cross commonly seen elsewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > The locals tend to look askance at members of the Ecclisiarchy and The
Adeptus Mechanicus, and are more differential to Imperial Guard troops and
Commissars (which are treated like royalty).
> > > > >
> > > > > The vaulted spires of the Church are nowhere to be seen, and Church
functions are heald in massive ampetheatres (which double as gladiatorial
areas). however, Sisterhood temples are common in most cites.
> > > > >
> > > > > Forgeworlds are run by local administrators, and the AdMec seems to
serve an almost advisory position. AdMec PC's from outside the Jewel cluster
will be politely ignored and if needed escorted away (at plasmagun barrel if
needbe) to keep them from interfering with operations.
> > > > >
> > > > > The locals have NO knowledge of the Eldar (fairy tales), the Tau
(would sound close to Eldar Description) , or the Tryanid (would not really
comprehend the idea until they face it), or Necrons (sounds like Men of Iron to
them). Orks and the Forces of Chaos, they have been made painfully aware off and
they hate them with a zeal that is wholely appropriate.
> > > > >
> > > > > An notably low incidence of psychers. but also a high amoutn of Nulls
for no readily apparent reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > They also tend to look upon 'Nobles' with disdain and area ruthless
meritiocracy when it comes to honoring those who deserve it. And punishing those
that don't.
> > > > >
> > > > > That being said, they seem to have a favorable disposition towards the
Inquisition.
> > > > >
> > > > > This isa light once over. comments are welcome
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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