Jake, still in a calm, detached manner at this end; I haven't brought avionics into the discussion simply because it's irrelevant. Only _one_ of those grav...
Not covered in the rules of course, but I suspect 'street legal' grav vehicles will have dedicated 'grav brakes' powered by either rechargeable batteries or...
But NOE flight is not about flying down the streets of a European city. NOE flight is a military tactic to avoid enemy fire by flying low enough to put...
Jake, NOE is not a military invention. It owes its history to crop dusters, and came into military use only with the acceptance of helicopters for service...
... You call NOE, NOE, but you create a rigorous definition and then abide by that definition with the rules through abiding by physics. Matthew Bailey...
And, this is a complete Strawman argument... A red herring, a non-sequitur. The use of "Streets" was just an example, and the fact remains that ANY terrain in...
I have that issue of the Adjutant. Lots of interesting designs, and more in the orbital assault vehicles issue. Not much description of how they are used...
Interesting to see that we have got up to 100kph as perfectly acceptable for NOE all of a sudden! ;-) I acknowledge that the speed attainable will depend on...
... That's because we've now moved on to talk about vehicles with 5G thrust, not 0.5G. ... The speeds probably need to be reduced by more than half, but yes,...
... Well, thats a non-answer. Whatever definition you arrive at is vehicle or terrain specific. And even with this definition your attempt to use physics has...
... Which terrain? For the game I want to know if flying NOE across open ground is limited to a particular speed, and if so why. I know that flying through...
... Which terrain? As I said above, the principle applies to ALL terrain. I'll attempt to explain: Flying NOE in a STRAIGHT LINE over FLAT terrain, (say a...
For vehicles dependent on aerodynamic performance the NOE is determined by two parameters: the wind gradient turbulence height and the height of the tallest...
Given sufficient power a CGV can fly quite comfortably in the urban areas on the assumption that its avionics anti-collision system will SCREAM at its...
Well, issues such as this can put a whole new light on NOE movement. To date, my arguments (for want of a fluffier term) have been based on the figures in...
... Agreed. IF your vehicles have enough Gs available, they can weave through streets with no worries, likewise Low G vehicles IF they are travelling slowly...
You're still adamant that vertical G's have no role? Can't agree sorry because it seems clear that in avoiding obstacles the grav craft could and would use a...
... Yep, absolutely. The vertical G holds you up. Period. As I've stated before: IF you're high enough above the ground that falling for a few seconds doesn't...
I spent about a week compiling the spreadsheet from various military and civilian, European, USA and International guidelines, regulations and other documents...
... You have to fly safe, and presumably that will depend on the grade of your avionics and the amount of power you have available. ... Now this is what I...
... Yes, the Pop-Up rule is broken as well. It was looking at this rule that first caught my attention that something was strange, but it was not until talking...
... I thought that I already commented... I was there... They have done several tests on several different laser packages. It is another DARPA Project, and the...
... Ooohhh, kay... I see that we need an education in how NOE travel really works and the difference between NOE and Terrain following. First, even if you are...
Thank you for that Matt, its called 'establishing a common intellectual framework' and will save your palms having to contact your face if you practise it more...
Matt, I can't speak about CGVs, but conventional aircraft and chopers always fly around anything that pops up on their visual or radar :) However, I take your...
PPS. Of course there is no need or a CGV to have a "forward" or a "back" modes of movement. Indeed, the optimal shape for a CGV would be circular in the plain...
Greg's summary below seems to be a good description of our position. :) I'll see if I can answer a couple of the queries below. ... It is my belief that the...
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