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Re: Game Reset?

Hey Exile,

Is there any update by chance of the progress of XR2.. or the modified version
that you've been working on?

Thanks,
juice

--- In crossroadsoftheelements@yahoogroups.com, "Robert \"Exile In Paradise\"
Murphey" <exile@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 02:55 -0700, Duckbreath wrote:
> > I think the question of a reset actually has underlying causes, such
> > as "endgame" (a more recent term used by MMO developers these days).
> > Mote in the old days was a winning condition, but now-a-days probably
> > looks more like a rite of passage to be able to "start" endgame life.
>
> One thought I had was that there are maybe 4 different measures here...
>
> 1. The top 5 slots in scoreboard.
> It confuses when people all get the maximum XP and the code sorts
> by name. This generally triggers the "can we reset?" discussion.
> A better display might be all people with max XP shown in
> an "honor roll".
>
> 2. so-called Master of the Elements
> This is when someone unites the elemental talismans.
> This event typically marks the start of the level 30 wars...
> and eventually people wonder when all the level 30s can be
> cleared out and the race to 30 started over.
>
> 3. The true master of the elements
> Someone who has level 30 in all 8 element/class combinations...
> *without multi-playing!*
> If you have beaten the game as fighter and mage each, in each of
> the 4 elements, then you've truly solved the game. Using multiple
> characters to level or as pack mules and whatnot undermines and
> cheapens this, so I wouldn't really count that.
>
> 4. Never end the wars, just retire the heros.
> Instead... when a character reaches "the end" - retire it, and
> leave the game running, but clear them off the active, usable
> list and mark them as a hero of the element or whatever.
>
> Lots of end-game possibilities here... for specific characters
> or for that game run.
> >
> > There is also the matter of the fastest and most active players
> > hitting level 30 first and griefing everyone else with summoned
> > creatures and not receiving proper karma adjustment, since the
> > "creature" gets the kill. I believe when karma goes sour is when the
> > net level difference adjustment reaches a point where Queyan appears
> > and kills you :)
>
> Yes, the karma loophole is one that works to only penalize
> fighters, so I have always left karma disabled.
> The solution here is factions/teams/clans who defend smaller
> player <of their element>.
>
> > I'd almost rather see a beta XR2 run on another server port, with
> > classic XR on the original, and we'll call that our reset :) Of
> > course, the beta would be subject to lots of resetting at one's own
> > risk for obvious reasons pertaining to the nature of the development
> > cycle.
> >
> The intention was to have a choice between "regular" and
> "extra crispy" (no Peter, I don't mean extra you!)
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >
> --
> Robert "Exile In Paradise" Murphey
> What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.
> -- Thomas Hewitt Key, 1799-1875
>





Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:36 pm

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It's probably been a decade since the last time the game was reset.. I think it's about time to start everyone off on common ground and see what happens....
skoofman
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Jul 12, 2009
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... I'd like to also know what "events" cause people to think its better to reset than keep playing level 30 wars? I always thought "when someone gets Master...
Robert "Exile In Para...
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mote is earned...peroid ... From: Robert "Exile In Paradise" Murphey <exile@...> Subject: Re: [crossroadsoftheelements] Game Reset? To:...
david keller
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Jul 13, 2009
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... So can I interpret this to mean you agree that when someone becomes MOTE, the game is over and that should trigger a reset? ... -- Robert "Exile In...
Robert "Exile In Para...
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Jul 13, 2009
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mote is earned...i got mote with no help.  before....the game should be set up as to get mote (ask to get mote)then once accepted no help can or will be...
david keller
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Jul 13, 2009
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Oh, jeez, no way!!! Just create new characters and challenge yourself that way. I don't want to lose all the level 30 mages and fighters I made. I just...
Sahar Husseini
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Jul 12, 2009
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NO. the game is designed to never reset I've seen MOTE of 4 different players in the same day, you gonna reset for each of those? ... From: Robert "Exile In...
wayne
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Jul 13, 2009
11:38 am

... Of course not. The idea was "when someone makes MOTE, is that when to trigger the discussions about resets" ... not "MOTE = automagic instant reset". ...
Robert "Exile In Para...
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Jul 13, 2009
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The issue is that it is very reasonable that if someone wanted to start from scratch, they could build two level 30 characters and make MotE in 2 weeks. I...
skoofman
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Jul 13, 2009
6:15 pm

I don't like the idea of losing all the work. If people want a challenge, why not start a whole new character. Once my air mage finished, I started an earth...
Sahar Husseini
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Jul 13, 2009
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my man juice.. I couldn't agree more! This particular game has gone beyond understanding. You have motoman who is 3rd in Earth but is top fighter, though I...
mike
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Jul 14, 2009
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A reset would be OK I suppose. It would be kind of a bummer to lose my level 30s. I spent a lot of time getting a wizard for each element, but it really...
Gregory Bragg
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Jul 14, 2009
7:47 pm

Why not just do away with the high score list altogether Just use the MOTE as a seperate item That way no reset is needed and if you want your name to shoe, go...
wayne
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Jul 14, 2009
10:32 pm

I know MotE is TECHNICALLY winning the game.. but let's be realistic.. it can be done with an earth lord and air wiz (the two easiest characters to make mind...
skoofman
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Jul 15, 2009
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I think the question of a reset actually has underlying causes, such as "endgame" (a more recent term used by MMO developers these days).  Mote in the old...
duckbreath
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Jul 15, 2009
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... One thought I had was that there are maybe 4 different measures here... 1. The top 5 slots in scoreboard. It confuses when people all get the maximum XP...
Robert "Exile In Para...
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Jul 15, 2009
11:13 am

Hey Exile, Is there any update by chance of the progress of XR2.. or the modified version that you've been working on? Thanks, juice...
skoofman
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Jul 15, 2009
3:37 pm

... Chase is the real brains around here. I think he's working on an other teaching book, so it may be a bit, but I know he's had some good progress into some...
Robert "Exile In Para...
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Jul 15, 2009
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I was actually making a lot of progress before this month when work got in the way. I may not be able to pick it back up for any real work until October. To...
Chase
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Jul 16, 2009
2:52 am

The XR2 would be a better choice. If the current game gets reset froom the complaints of a few, I wonder how many of the players with a lot less time to play...
wayne
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Jul 15, 2009
10:24 am

We always did it after 4 people "won" the game, sometimes we did it when one of each element "won" the game, but that's up to you...it was never when "one"...
Shane Mitchell
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Jul 16, 2009
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If you guys are shorthanded in meeting your developmental goals, I am willing to offer my aid.  However, to submit patches, I'd need source codes :)  This...
duckbreath
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Jul 20, 2009
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And of course, my punishment for not finishing the rest of the list and replying to an earlier post first. :) It sounds like you're doing a fantastic job!!!! ...
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