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3x3 edges - sighted BLD style - time ?   Message List  
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How long do you need to solve the 3x3 edges, sighted but using your
blindsolving method? I.e. same thing as Chris and I recently did with
4x4, now with 3x3.

Cheers!
Stefan
Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:24 am

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How long do you need to solve the 3x3 edges, sighted but using your blindsolving method? I.e. same thing as Chris and I recently did with 4x4, now with 3x3. ... 		Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
1:26 am

Stefan, Who are you speaking to? And which example scramble, for instance?...
kyuubree
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4:46 am

... Generally everybody, but the faster you are, the more interesting the data :-) I'm preparing some scrambles now, will post them here then. Cheers! Stefan...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
1:12 pm

... the ... Ok... I have finished preparing the scrambles. I generated random cube states with a Java program and fed them into Cube Explorer's Web Server...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
3:20 pm

Ok, I just did the first dozen for an average of 45.92: (1:04.04) 38.17 44.44 53.20 34.70 54.51 56.44 29.49 36.20 1:03.33 (28. 97) 48.76 The big inconsistency...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
3:47 pm

Stefan, For F2 R2 U2 R F2 B2 L D2 R2 L2 B2 D F2 B2 R2 F2 R2 U' F2 D2: 35.05 seconds...
kyuubree
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
4:27 pm

... Ok, thanks. Would you say that was about average for you? Cheers! Stefan...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
6:04 pm

... (28. ... The next dozen resulted in 36.50: 30.82 30.00 55.45 42.15 31.04 50.85 (57.31) 31.39 (25.32) 25.67 33.18 34.40 I still waste a lot of time, I hope...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
6:23 pm

Hey Stefan, Here is my average. Although I solve like Tyson and Leyan and crew I would venture to guess that this is still a bad average for cycles+orient...
cmhardw
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
6:33 pm

Scrambles 13-24 19.90 32.91 32.58 32.27 25.60 37.80 29.60 (47.25) (17.02) 25.00 28.88 29.23 = 29.38 Chris...
cmhardw
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6:48 pm

... 88 ... Great, thanks :-). My best rolling average of the remaining 26 scrambles is 27.82: 26.77 21.48 (21.43) 23.74 29.20 33.40 25.95 29.93 (DNF) 28.27...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
6:57 pm

Hey Stefan, Two more averages here: Scrambles 25-36 35.41 28.87 32.29 32.26 30.09 20.87 (38.99) 29.45 (20.51) 28.52 24.45 32.80 = 29.50 Scrambles 37-48 25.24...
cmhardw
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
7:12 pm

... Wow, those are really awesome fast. Can you tell me which scrambles they were? ... Here you go :-) L' F2 B2 U2 F2 U2 R L2 U F2 B2 D2 R2 L2 U' B2 U2 L2 F2...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
7:15 pm

... scrambles ... Scramble: y' D L2 B2 R U2 F2 B2 U2 R D' R2 D2 F2 L2 D2 B2 y Solve time: 13.99 Solution: x' R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 x L2 U F' B L2 F B' U...
cmhardw
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
7:37 pm

... Ok, I see... a 5-cycle and two 3-cycles... pretty much optimal for you. Not so nice for me, though. Tried it again now that I have more practice, got...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
8:11 pm

Hey, I think I know where I messed up in my scramble. Anyway here is a sample solve from me using a standard 3-cycle system: D B2 D L U2 D2 R' L2 F2 R2 D B2 U...
kyuubree
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
8:24 pm

Very nice, thanks a lot! I like the short 3-cycles everywhere, especially the first one with no setup moves. Do you work with S-slice only? I tried finding...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
8:48 pm

Hey Stefan, That move would be great too :P Certainly shorter. I just tend to stick with things that rely on my right hand because I am not very good with...
kyuubree
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
9:02 pm

Aaaaaah!!!!! 2:11.12 with what looked like sub-60 memorization (I didn't see the 1:xx.xx format but a shorter one as I put on the blindfold) but with a...
cmhardw
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
9:10 pm

Stefan, After doing this exercise of timing 3x3x3 edges I think I know how a sub-2 is possible for me. Me memorization is always 1:10-1:30 so in order to get...
cmhardw
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
8:25 pm

Hey, On a sidenote I just tried another BLD solve for 3x3x3 using 4-5 edge cycles (and two three-cycles) and got 1:25! So close!...
kyuubree
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
8:43 pm

... edge ... Can you show some algs for these longer cycles? Cheers! Stefan...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
8:53 pm

... Hey, Sure -- I tend to break up the permuting algorithms into "groups" like, an alg for two adjacent edges with an edge on the D layer, etc. For 4 and 5...
kyuubree
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
9:18 pm

... Alright, thanks. Is there some understandable idea behind this, too? The 3-cycles tend to be easy understandable commutators, but I don't see yet how to...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 23, 2006
12:02 am

Hey Marcus, How fast do you memorize and solve usually? I've been working on memorizing a lot lately and have improved, but I still have plateaud off at...
cmhardw
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
9:00 pm

Haha! I was reading through this thinking... holy cow, those times are ridiculous! Then I realized you were only permuting edges :-P. I'll give it a try in...
Tyson Mao
psycho_tycho
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
9:34 pm

All right, so I wasn't able to do 12 solves in a row. Because the orientation isn't correct, I stopped the timer a few times before actually finishing it, but...
Tyson Mao
psycho_tycho
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
10:04 pm

... You might have to orient the cube as a whole by y before scrambling, then I'm fairly sure it'll work for you. Cheers! Stefan...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
10:37 pm

Hey Stefan, Oh, that was allowed?!? That'll make it MUCH easier... I'll have to give it another shot. Tyson Mao MSC #631 California Institute of Technology...
Tyson Mao
psycho_tycho
Offline Send Email 		Jan 22, 2006
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