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Re: Corner Perm.

--- Ron van Bruchem wrote:
> ... Another thing is this: without looking at the cross, just orient
> all edges. This is much easier than for blindfold because you can
> do F to flip 4 edges. I think the maximum depth for edge
> orientation is 7 moves...

In case you cared to know for sure, you're correct. I had written
this into a program a bit ago and this is from the output - # of edge
orientation states at each depth:
depth 0: 1 0.05%(solved)
depth 1: 2 0.10%
depth 2: 21 1.03%
depth 3: 178 8.69%
depth 4: 592 28.91%
depth 5: 914 44.63%
depth 6: 327 15.97%
depth 7: 13 0.63%
Total : 2048

After that, corners can be oriented in at most 7 more moves, though
I'm sure us human solvers won't always see the optimal solution when
it's 5-7 moves away.

- Grant





Mon Apr 5, 2004 4:30 pm

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Hey everyone. So yeah, I just felt like posting some of the algs I use to see if anyone has any better ones, and also to see if anyone likes any of these. I...
cmhardw Offline Send Email Apr 2, 2004
7:26 am

Hi Chris, I don't have much to offer for corner orientation algs. I really only use one alg plus a multitude of inverses/reflections for all my CO needs. It...
Rob Butler
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Apr 2, 2004
4:49 pm

I seem to use an alg that I haven't seen anywhere....It may be long but super easy to memorize and super fast to execute: (L2 U) (B2 U')*2 (L2 U) (B2 U B2 U') ...
Brent Morgan
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Apr 2, 2004
9:53 pm

Hi friends, So which do we have? Corner permutations: R'FR'B2RF'R'B2R2 (basic + inverse) (L2 U) (B2 U')*2 (L2 U) (B2 U B2 U') [RB'R'B]x3 (13)(27) UL2UR2...
Ron van Bruchem
ilovemycube Offline Send Email
Apr 3, 2004
8:59 am

One algorithm that I often use is from Richard Carr's document: R'D'LDRD'L'DUL'UR2U'LUR2U2 You hold it so there's a corner with orientation 2 in position UFR, ...
Michael Atkinson
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Apr 5, 2004
12:59 am

How fast can you execute this? Some time ago I found that you can get the same using a "double Sune", i.e. (L' U' L U' L' U2 L) (R U R' U R U2 R') This will...
Stefan Pochmann
stefan_pochmann Offline Send Email
Apr 6, 2004
12:31 pm

I agree, all these algs are fast... but I think, ... the fastest way is just looking and planning ahead w/ nonstop, as ron says: "just simply looking ahead...
Brent Morgan
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Apr 7, 2004
1:42 am

... In case you cared to know for sure, you're correct. I had written this into a program a bit ago and this is from the output - # of edge orientation states...
Grant Tregay
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Apr 5, 2004
8:59 pm

... Can you tell us what these 13 states are? ... though ... when ... Hmm, maybe a simple greedy algorithm could work... but I haven't tried it yet, this is...
Stefan Pochmann
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Apr 6, 2004
11:23 am

... Hmm... I sent a response to this yesterday, and it doesn't appear to have gone through - I'll repost. Not surprisingly, the 13 states are superflip along...
Grant Tregay
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Apr 8, 2004
8:24 pm

... I didn't say that right; the summaries of 2-13 indicate which edges are not flipped in each state. - Grant...
Grant Tregay
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Apr 8, 2004
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