From the Author:

   Dear Blackjack Player,

         As someone who plays Blackjack, you may be interested in a new novel on
card counting. Casino, volume Three of The Spawater Chronicles by Barry Tighe.

   This book is for all who love blackjack, for all who want to
know how card-counting actually works and for all who want to be cured of
gambling addiction. It show both sides of the gambling world.
                   Casino is volume three of The Spawater Chronicles, a
series of seven, relating the adventures of a group of friends, descendents
of the Romans, in the old Roman town of Spawater.
   It tells how the local Health and Safety zealots have torpedoed that hitherto
unsinkable
institution, The Lifeboat Club. By bottom-of-the-pack dealing the council
intend to purchase it for peanuts and flatten it to make the car park for
a government approved supercasino - Unless Jady and his friends can turn up
trumps.
   Odds on a good, dirty fight.


   Casino is available from:

   http://www.amazon.com and

   http://canwritewillwrite.com/shopus.htm - giving further details.


   Casino is available in the UK from:

http://www.amazon.co.uk and

http://canwritewillwrite.com/shop.htm - giving further details

   I hope you do not mind me emailing you; I obtained your email address from the
Yahoo groups website.

   If you have any comments, please send them to: barrycwww@...

   Regards,

   Barry Tighe



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How do you achieve tracking the slugs for the next show
while at the same time properly counting and betting the present one?

look for sudden drops or rises and cut those into or out of play usually a swing
of + 10 or - 10 is a trackable segment on a single round of play

cis

fishthecompany <fishthecompany@...> wrote:
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  while at the same time properly counting and betting the present one?






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Is it still possible to join a game in progress after the shoe has been shuffled
on the strip
or downtown?

Thanks in advance
angelwen99

Listowner,

At the moment, this list is mainly spam and as you can see from the
posting made by regular members of the list, people are getting sick of
it.

The easiest way to curb this would be to set moderation on the list to
the setting "New members only" as this is where the vast majority of
your spam will come from. Spammers are opportunist thieves, they see a
window open, come in and rob you. These guys do not lurk or sleep on
the list, its pretty much, sign up and spam away. Its easy to set up
new mail addresses and then subscribe to your selection of unmoderated
lists when you ban them after the event. Moderate them before hand and
they never get a chance to spam and then the list becomes unpopular for
them.

The rest of the membership would not be affected by this as they would
not be moderated, unless of course you manually set the individual for
being offensive etc.

My own vote on this will be to give the list another week and then walk.

Ross

Yes, very much so, but the tables that do allow it
will have a maximum bet cap for mid-shoe entry.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogr
>oups.com]On Behalf Of Sarah
>Sent: 15 April 2007 04:48
>To: blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [CCCafe] jumpingin in las vegas
>
>
>Is it still possible to join a game in
>progress after the shoe has been
>shuffled on the strip
>or downtown?
>
>Thanks in advance
>angelwen99
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, email:
>blackjackcardcounterscafe-unsubscribe@yah
oogroups.com
>

No kidding !! There is so much useful info on this list and I still
enjoy reading and searching old posts, some of which are mine. This
game is not completely dead yet. Let's keep this forum moderated for
new users while blocking the spammers and once again make it a top BJ
forum just as Rob would have wished.

and ... Gino Polkamouse where are YOU ?  ,,, Slag ,,,

--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, "drrossi2000"
<drrossi2000@...> wrote:
>
> Listowner,
>
> At the moment, this list is mainly spam and as you can see from the
> posting made by regular members of the list, people are getting
sick of
> it.
>
> The easiest way to curb this would be to set moderation on the list
to
> the setting "New members only" as this is where the vast majority
of
> your spam will come from. Spammers are opportunist thieves, they
see a
> window open, come in and rob you. These guys do not lurk or sleep
on
> the list, its pretty much, sign up and spam away. Its easy to set
up
> new mail addresses and then subscribe to your selection of
unmoderated
> lists when you ban them after the event. Moderate them before hand
and
> they never get a chance to spam and then the list becomes unpopular
for
> them.
>
> The rest of the membership would not be affected by this as they
would
> not be moderated, unless of course you manually set the individual
for
> being offensive etc.
>
> My own vote on this will be to give the list another week and then
walk.
>
> Ross
>

The reason why I'm reluctant to go to moderation was that it was
tried before, and traffic slowed to a crawl. New members have to come
here, sign-up with a yahoo id, join the group, then wait for the
message to appear when I get a spare moment, which could be more than
a day. Its in the nature of the forum to have a flurry of activity
from new members who then go dormant.
That said, the situation has patently got out of hand. Somethign will
change in the next few hours.

--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, "drrossi2000"
<drrossi2000@...> wrote:
>
> Listowner,
>
> At the moment, this list is mainly spam and as you can see from the
> posting made by regular members of the list, people are getting
sick of
> it.
>
> The easiest way to curb this would be to set moderation on the list
to
> the setting "New members only" as this is where the vast majority
of
> your spam will come from. Spammers are opportunist thieves, they
see a
> window open, come in and rob you. These guys do not lurk or sleep
on
> the list, its pretty much, sign up and spam away. Its easy to set
up
> new mail addresses and then subscribe to your selection of
unmoderated
> lists when you ban them after the event. Moderate them before hand
and
> they never get a chance to spam and then the list becomes unpopular
for
> them.
>
> The rest of the membership would not be affected by this as they
would
> not be moderated, unless of course you manually set the individual
for
> being offensive etc.
>
> My own vote on this will be to give the list another week and then
walk.
>
> Ross
>

Ok, new list members are now moderated.

FWIW, I'm happy either way.  The spam hasn't been so horribly bad, and my
delete button still works.

<O>

>-----Original Message-----
>From: sys381
>The reason why I'm reluctant to go to moderation was that it was
>tried before, and traffic slowed to a crawl. New members have to come
>here, sign-up with a yahoo id, join the group, then wait for the
>message to appear when I get a spare moment, which could be more than
>a day. Its in the nature of the forum to have a flurry of activity
>from new members who then go dormant.
>That said, the situation has patently got out of hand. Somethign will
>change in the next few hours.

--
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4:43 AM

Does somebody winning in Baccarat by counting cards? How possible is
this?

There are only three playing decisions that you
can make in baccarat

1 Which table to sit at
2 How much to bet on each round
3 Where to bet (banker, player, draw)

The house edge on the banker bet is about 1.06%
and everything else is downhill from there. I
would have some serious doubts that counting could
offer any advantage to the player as there is less
meaning to them in baccarat than in in blackjack
and indeed what are the point values worth? The
game works on no play decisions once you have all
put your chips on the appropriate spot. Any game
you play against the house with a commission
structure does not bode well for the player. I
suspect that any 'winning strategy' around this
game will be around cheating, progressive betting
or comp hustling.




>-----Original Message-----
>From: blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogr
>oups.com]On Behalf Of
>getman_ukr
>Sent: 18 April 2007 13:49
>To: blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [CCCafe] Card counting in Baccarat
>
>
>
>Does somebody winning in Baccarat by
>counting cards? How possible is
>this?
>

Dear Blackjack Player,

   As someone who plays Blackjack, you may be interested in a new novel on the
subject. Casino, volume Three of The Spawater Chronicles by Barry Tighe.

     From the Author:

This book is for all who love blackjack, for all who want to
know how card-counting actually works and for all who want to be cured of
gambling addiction. It show both sides of the gambling world.
       Casino is volume three of The Spawater Chronicles, a
series of seven, relating the adventures of a group of friends, descendents
of the Romans, in the old Roman town of Spawater.
   It tells how the local Health and Safety zealots have torpedoed that hitherto
unsinkable
institution, The Lifeboat Club. By bottom-of-the-pack dealing the council
intend to purchase it for peanuts and flatten it to make the car park for
a government approved supercasino - Unless Jady and his friends can turn up
trumps.
   Odds on a good, dirty fight.


   Casino is available from:

   http://www.amazon.com and

   http://canwritewillwrite.com/shopus.htm - giving further details.


   Casino is available in the UK from:

http://www.amazon.co.uk and

http://canwritewillwrite.com/shop.htm - giving further details

   I hope you do not mind me emailing you; I obtained your email address from the
Yahoo groups website.

   If you have any comments, please send them to: barrycwww@...

   Regards,

   Barry Tighe



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--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, "Ross Boardman"
<drrossi2000@...> wrote:
>
> There are only three playing decisions that you
> can make in baccarat
>
> 1 Which table to sit at
> 2 How much to bet on each round
> 3 Where to bet (banker, player, draw)
>
> The house edge on the banker bet is about 1.06%
> and everything else is downhill from there. I
> would have some serious doubts that counting could
> offer any advantage to the player as there is less
> meaning to them in baccarat than in in blackjack
> and indeed what are the point values worth? The
> game works on no play decisions once you have all
> put your chips on the appropriate spot. Any game
> you play against the house with a commission
> structure does not bode well for the player. I
> suspect that any 'winning strategy' around this
> game will be around cheating, progressive betting
> or comp hustling.
>

Counting is possible at baccarat but should only be practiced by the
truly dedicated mind.
You do get favourable end-deck subsets with baccarat that can be very
favourable, on the tie wager. For example a deck remainder composed
entirely of ten-value cards is a certain tie and pays off at 8-1. You
could make a lot of money in that situation.

My first book was actually on baccarat and covered this topic. It got
some good reviews, though most agreed baccarat was not an easy game
to attack.

Thanks for your patience Omnedon, it is appreciated.

I can see how annoying this is for other members though. Although the
CCCafe was never originally intended to be an e-list, the tidal wave
of crap going into people's mail boxes of late must have been
unendurable.
For those of you who have listed de-listed in protest and now wish to
subscribe again, I suggest waiting a few weeks while I identify and
remove the remaining spammers from the exsting network, as only new
members posts are moderated. Moderation does already seem to be
having an effect though.

On a more positive note, I'm amazed that after eight years this forum
is still getting interesting posts from its members even after all
the problems we've had in the past, and serious competition from
four, major, commercial blackjack forums with fantastic content.

--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, "Omnedon"
<Omnedon@...> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I'm happy either way.  The spam hasn't been so horribly bad,
and my
> delete button still works.
>
> <O>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: sys381
> >The reason why I'm reluctant to go to moderation was that it was
> >tried before, and traffic slowed to a crawl. New members have to
come
> >here, sign-up with a yahoo id, join the group, then wait for the
> >message to appear when I get a spare moment, which could be more
than
> >a day. Its in the nature of the forum to have a flurry of activity
> >from new members who then go dormant.
> >That said, the situation has patently got out of hand. Somethign
will
> >change in the next few hours.
>
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - Release Date:
4/17/2007
> 4:43 AM
>

well that is nice to know.so where are you from? me i am british colulmbia.
canada



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--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, gwenda joseph
<gwenda_joseph@...> wrote:
>
> well that is nice to know.so where are you from? me i am british
colulmbia. canada
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
garland, tx

it is a lil town called Oliver. so are you into the games o

gwenda joseph <gwenda_joseph@...> wrote:          well that is nice to
know.so where are you from? me i am british colulmbia. canada


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so what is your name and your location. My name is gwenda

walthamster <walthamster@...> wrote:          Thanks for your patience
Omnedon, it is appreciated.

I can see how annoying this is for other members though. Although the
CCCafe was never originally intended to be an e-list, the tidal wave
of crap going into people's mail boxes of late must have been
unendurable.
For those of you who have listed de-listed in protest and now wish to
subscribe again, I suggest waiting a few weeks while I identify and
remove the remaining spammers from the exsting network, as only new
members posts are moderated. Moderation does already seem to be
having an effect though.

On a more positive note, I'm amazed that after eight years this forum
is still getting interesting posts from its members even after all
the problems we've had in the past, and serious competition from
four, major, commercial blackjack forums with fantastic content.

--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, "Omnedon"
<Omnedon@...> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I'm happy either way. The spam hasn't been so horribly bad,
and my
> delete button still works.
>
> <O>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: sys381
> >The reason why I'm reluctant to go to moderation was that it was
> >tried before, and traffic slowed to a crawl. New members have to
come
> >here, sign-up with a yahoo id, join the group, then wait for the
> >message to appear when I get a spare moment, which could be more
than
> >a day. Its in the nature of the forum to have a flurry of activity
> >from new members who then go dormant.
> >That said, the situation has patently got out of hand. Somethign
will
> >change in the next few hours.
>
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - Release Date:
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> 4:43 AM
>






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Now I'm intrigued. You must be looking at some
pretty high counts to go for the tie bet.

A couple of additional questions then;

1 Is the tie bet purely a playing decision at a
certain positive count?
2 Do you also bet proportionately on the tie as
well?

On it's own the game does not appear to offer any
advantage for a counter, but now stand corrected.
Given the house edge on bankers bet and also the
etiquette around baccarat, would there be any
other advantage plays? I can safely assume that
wonging into a game would not be allowed in most
high roller areas.




>>
>
>Counting is possible at baccarat but
>should only be practiced by the
>truly dedicated mind.
>You do get favourable end-deck subsets
>with baccarat that can be very
>favourable, on the tie wager. For
>example a deck remainder composed
>entirely of ten-value cards is a certain
>tie and pays off at 8-1. You
>could make a lot of money in that situation.
>
>My first book was actually on baccarat
>and covered this topic. It got
>some good reviews, though most agreed
>baccarat was not an easy game
>to attack.
>
>

Ross Boardman <drrossi2000@...> wrote:          Now I'm intrigued. You
must be looking at some
pretty high counts to go for the tie bet.

A couple of additional questions then;

1 Is the tie bet purely a playing decision at a
certain positive count?
2 Do you also bet proportionately on the tie as
well?

On it's own the game does not appear to offer any
advantage for a counter, but now stand corrected.
Given the house edge on bankers bet and also the
etiquette around baccarat, would there be any
other advantage plays? I can safely assume that
wonging into a game would not be allowed in most
high roller areas.

>>
>
>Counting is possible at baccarat but
>should only be practiced by the
>truly dedicated mind.
>You do get favourable end-deck subsets
>with baccarat that can be very
>favourable, on the tie wager. For
>example a deck remainder composed
>entirely of ten-value cards is a certain
>tie and pays off at 8-1. You
>could make a lot of money in that situation.
>
>My first book was actually on baccarat
>and covered this topic. It got
>some good reviews, though most agreed
>baccarat was not an easy game
>to attack.
>
>



          I know some internet casinos where you can wonging and play with live
dealers. Also you can put several hundreds dollars in one bet. I don't know is
it high rollers bet for you, but I think that isn't so bad.


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--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, Igor Getman
<getman_ukr@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ross Boardman <drrossi2000@...> wrote:          Now I'm intrigued.
You must be looking at some
> pretty high counts to go for the tie bet.

Like you wouldn't believe.
>
> A couple of additional questions then;
>
> 1 Is the tie bet purely a playing decision at a
> certain positive count?

Yes, to say the least.

> 2 Do you also bet proportionately on the tie as
> well?

Yes.
>
> On it's own the game does not appear to offer any
> advantage for a counter, but now stand corrected.

I wouldn't go far as to say "corrected".

It is extraordinarily difficult to get a long-term significant edge
at baccarat. It is difficult to even explain how to do it. You are
emphatically *NOT* looking at the type of one-month study involved
with blackjack. The bankroll, mental toughness, and memory recall
requirements are extreme. You are really looking at the type of
application neccessary to become a doctor or lawyer-a six-year time
frame of complete and total dedication.

> Given the house edge on bankers bet and also the
> etiquette around baccarat, would there be any
> other advantage plays? I can safely assume that
> wonging into a game would not be allowed in most
> high roller areas.

Yup, though you can often get away with it at mini-bac. Getting down
enough money at mini-bac is a serious problem though.
>
> >>
> >
> >Counting is possible at baccarat but
> >should only be practiced by the
> >truly dedicated mind.
> >You do get favourable end-deck subsets
> >with baccarat that can be very
> >favourable, on the tie wager. For
> >example a deck remainder composed
> >entirely of ten-value cards is a certain
> >tie and pays off at 8-1. You
> >could make a lot of money in that situation.
> >
> >My first book was actually on baccarat
> >and covered this topic. It got
> >some good reviews, though most agreed
> >baccarat was not an easy game
> >to attack.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>          I know some internet casinos where you can wonging and
play with live dealers. Also you can put several hundreds dollars in
one bet. I don't know is it high rollers bet for you, but I think
that isn't so bad.
>

Unfortunately, you need a 1-50 spread with play-all baccarat to get
a .5% edge. You really need to be able to put down thousands of
dollars. That doesn't neccessarily mean you have to be a high-roller-
the type of edge you are looking for, while infrequent, is so huge
very large Kelly bets can be mathematically justified.


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--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, sys381
<no_reply@...> wrote:>
> It is extraordinarily difficult to get a long-term significant
edge
> at baccarat. It is difficult to even explain how to do it. You are
> emphatically *NOT* looking at the type of one-month study involved
> with blackjack. The bankroll, mental toughness, and memory recall
> requirements are extreme. You are really looking at the type of
> application neccessary to become a doctor or lawyer-a six-year
time
> frame of complete and total dedication.

  But if you are playing in online casinos it shouldn't de so
difficult,isn't it? Because you can use some software, chatting with
other players, or at least pen and paper.

> > Unfortunately, you need a 1-50 spread with play-all baccarat to
get
> a .5% edge. You really need to be able to put down thousands of
> dollars. That doesn't neccessarily mean you have to be a high-
roller-
> the type of edge you are looking for, while infrequent, is so huge
> very large Kelly bets can be mathematically justified.

I can't understand why it's should be so huge bets? If you playing
BJ and true count is +2, so with 3000$ bankroll you should bet like
20$ . Why in Baccarat is not the same formula?

--- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, "getman_ukr"
<getman_ukr@...> wrote:
>
> --- In blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com, sys381
> <no_reply@> wrote:>
> > It is extraordinarily difficult to get a long-term significant
> edge
> > at baccarat. It is difficult to even explain how to do it. You
are
> > emphatically *NOT* looking at the type of one-month study
involved
> > with blackjack. The bankroll, mental toughness, and memory recall
> > requirements are extreme. You are really looking at the type of
> > application neccessary to become a doctor or lawyer-a six-year
> time
> > frame of complete and total dedication.
>
>  But if you are playing in online casinos it shouldn't de so
> difficult,isn't it? Because you can use some software, chatting
with
> other players, or at least pen and paper.

Counting would be easy, yes. But it isn't possible online because 1)
even when the cards are not reshuffled every hand no onloine casino I
know of deals deep enough for you to get a meaningful edge, and 2) I
don't think any online casino has a large enough max tie wager to be
able to beat the game significantly.

>
> > > Unfortunately, you need a 1-50 spread with play-all baccarat to
> get
> > a .5% edge. You really need to be able to put down thousands of
> > dollars. That doesn't neccessarily mean you have to be a high-
> roller-
> > the type of edge you are looking for, while infrequent, is so
huge
> > very large Kelly bets can be mathematically justified.
>
> I can't understand why it's should be so huge bets? If you playing
> BJ and true count is +2, so with 3000$ bankroll you should bet like
> 20$ . Why in Baccarat is not the same formula?
>

The mathematics of the baccarat are fundamentally different from
blackjack. With blackjack you play a lot of small bets with a lot of
small advantages. With baccarat you will be very lucky to place more
than half a dozen adantageous wagers in a year, but you might
quadruple your bankroll with those wagers.
(Note: this puts a lot of people off. They get worried about placing
a huge bet on a single hand. It is important to understand that you
really do the same thing st blackjack. You might have an 80% chance
of doubling your bank and a 20% chance of losing it. Mathematically
it amounts to much the same thing as betting your entire bankroll on
a single-hand with an 80% chance of winning, except that it takes
longer. )

With baccarat what you are looking for is very unlikely end-deck
subsets at extremely deep penetration (usually the last hand to be
dealt). For example, if you 8 tens remaning in the pack on the last
hand, you have a certain tie outcome. If you bet tie, forgetting
table limits for a moment, you can bet your entire bank and increase
your total wealth by 800%.
Such subsets are extremely rare, but obviously most people would be
willing to wait around quite a while for such an opportunity.

Laughlin has been good to me through the years, though there are at
least two casinos I will still probably have to avoid there.  I will
make an appearance in the area for a few days sometime this year (how's
that for vague?)  If the conditions are juicy, I will stay.  If not,
I'll run to Vegas.  Two questions:

1) Is that casino that starts with an "R" still as paranoid as they
always have been?

2) What kind of games will I find in Laughlin?


wisereyes

--- "cis2006_1" <cis2006_1@...> wrote:
>
> Is any of you familar with some AP techniques such as
> tracking or sequencing
> is it possible in all situations and which are the best
> ways to distinguish a good game ...

Check out the "imbiciles" seriese here:

Shuffle Tracking for Imbeciles:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=1919
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=1920

Shuffle Scouting for Imbeciles:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2140

Sequencing is usually a bit tougher. You have to look for a shuffle
with three or fewer riffles and minimal stripping. In some cases you
can use tracking and sequencing together to help locate the cards
you are sequencing.

> I am thinking of attending a seminar in boston
> given by one MIT former players, read about it on
> www.blackjackscience.com has any one
> attended these seminars or have any insight on these seminars

One of the guys on this website has:

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=5223

Hello all,

     I've been training at blackjack for the past 3 months learning my
counting system etc.... Now, I'm working on counting and using location
play as well.  I will continue to train for the next year before I even
think about hitting the casinos.  I was kicking around the idea of
using huge bet spreads for a limited amount of time and tnen leaving
the game pretty quickly.  I know the beachmark for most six deck games
is 1-12 spread but I have a counter friend who uses 1-30 when the table
limits allow for it and hasn't caught any heat yet by doing so.  I
don't really care if I get kicked or banned from play because I have
numerous other sources of income.  So I guess my question is, since I
have never counted in a casino and don't really care about getting the
heave ho do you guys think that this aggressive of betting spread is a
wise idea?

hey all

Just curious if there are any players around chicago that  I can talk
shop with Im looking for some playing partners.  Pretty good counter
here and have some ap skills like tracking and cutting and sequencing

best

  CIS

I'm in Chicago and would be interested...
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: cis2006_1
   To: blackjackcardcounterscafe@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:06 AM
   Subject: [CCCafe] chicagoland


   hey all

   Just curious if there are any players around chicago that I can talk
   shop with Im looking for some playing partners. Pretty good counter
   here and have some ap skills like tracking and cutting and sequencing

   best

   CIS






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