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Bruce Harper
bruce_h@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:19 pm
I've had positions where I'd have liked to do this myself! It raises a related issue, though, which is whether massive British navy forces in the Far East were...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 4:55 pm
... That's a funny way to spell "simplify". :-) Martin...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 5:05 pm
... I'm glad to hear you're enjoying your game, but I wonder whether the situation you describe is the result of a Allied blunder. It seems likely the British...
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Joby Walker
zorloc@...
Nov 1, 2000 5:09 pm
Actually it doesn't make much sense to go after Ethiopia unless you want to pressure British Sudan/Kenya. The Ethiopia (Abyssinia) of 1934-6 was landlocked by...
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Edward John Schoenfeld
ejschoenfeld@...
Nov 1, 2000 5:38 pm
... It is not as easy for the Wa to conquer Ethiopia as you seem to think. Usually there will not be enough units available until after the Fall of France. If...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 6:18 pm
... If the British player sees Italians going to Ethiopia in 1939, I would expect him to react by putting 3x4s in Kenya right away, ready to move into Ethiopia...
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Edward John Schoenfeld
ejschoenfeld@...
Nov 1, 2000 7:06 pm
... Since there are only 5 3-4's on the European board in 1939, this is not a practical move by the British player, unless that player wants to guarantee ...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 7:43 pm
... I disagree. Two 3x4s plus a 2o5 or two is a reasonable committment to France. Germany can't airdrop on London until the turn after the Low Countries...
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Edward John Schoenfeld
ejschoenfeld@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:10 pm
... You will find that in a well-coordinate Axis Med strategy that uses additional troops sent to Ethiopia, it is not often the case that the only opposition...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:36 pm
... I'm thinking the following pattern may emerge. 1939: Britain stations enough troops in Kenya to conquer Ethiopia. Axis Sp40: Italy declares war Allied...
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DonMoody
donmoody@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:42 pm
... Why would the Italian player DoW in Spring 1940 when Ethiopia is certain to fall and especially when Italy is tying up as many British units while neutral...
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Edward John Schoenfeld
ejschoenfeld@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:57 pm
... This has happened in exactly 0 out of ca. 20 games in the 4 years I have been playing Gw2K -- It has not happened even in those games in which Britain made...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:03 pm
... I would think Italy would declare war in Sp40 so as to be able to lend a 2o5 and 5 Iaaf to the French campaign, and also to allow access to the French...
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DonMoody
donmoody@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:24 pm
... certain to fall and especially when Italy is tying up as many British units while neutral as if it was in the war? ... lend a 2o5 and 5 Iaaf to the French...
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Edward John Schoenfeld
ejschoenfeld@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:05 pm
... For British units to enter Ethiopia on the turn Italy declares war, they have to be in Kenya or Sudan the turn before, while Italy is still neutral. If...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:17 pm
... If the Axis are making such a strong push in the Med (extra Italians in Ethiopia, Germans in Libya and Sicily, a partisan in the Sudan), I would think it...
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Paul W. Stoecker
pwstoecker@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:20 pm
Martin, I really don't see it as a WA allies, because in a game there are decisions that must be made for the good of the whole. I think in our game, the ...
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Markus Kaessbohrer
M@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:30 pm
... It will still tie down Britishers that could otherwise give Italy a rather hard time. - Markus. <M@...> The above is my opinion and/or invention....
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:31 pm
... Right. ... I wouldn't think Britain would need those units to defend against a 1940 Sealion because I don't think the Germans would get to the beach. In my...
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Markus Kaessbohrer
M@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:34 pm
... Didn't they send a sizable task force after Pearl Harbour - several of the old R class battleships, one or two carriers, a bunch of cruisers and fluff? -...
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Stephen Ede
s.ede@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:34 pm
... I think the one thing this tread has shown is that there are enough options and variability that is at least partially dependant on the Ethiopia option...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:38 pm
... I'm not sure I understand. Aren't British attacks vs. Libya (surely you're not talking about 1940 invasions of Italy) more limited by brp costs than...
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ara@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:38 pm
... I ... conquer ... do ... Ethiopia ... turn ... around ... Ethiopia ... I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with Martin on his 'opinion' concerning the value...
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DonMoody
donmoody@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:39 pm
... If they can afford it. IMHO, Britain conquering Ethiopia means something else the British aren't doing. If the Brits can afford to not do whatever that is,...
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Markus Kaessbohrer
M@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:41 pm
... Great! So Britain can decide whether to set up to attack Italy in Lybia, or in Ethiopia, or to try for Greece diplomatically, or just hunker down in...
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Martin Smith
mcs@...
Nov 2, 2000 12:00 am
... If, in 1939, Britain puts in Kenya/Sudan enough forces to guarantee conquest of Ethiopia (Italian factors +2), then they can go in on the turn of the...
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DonMoody
donmoody@...
Nov 2, 2000 12:20 am
... Actually, it is Italian factors +1 plus one unit for attrition losses. True, this is often Italian factors +2 but the WAs do not always have the right...
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Demetrios Rammos
drammos@...
Nov 2, 2000 2:04 am
Just a few thoughts on the air combat DRM. At this point all minor countries apart from Finland Sweden and Australia have a -2 DRM. Still for certain cases...
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Edward John Schoenfeld
ejschoenfeld@...
Nov 2, 2000 4:33 am
... Yes, conquering Ethiopia is easy once the units are available. The problem is that Britain has a lot of other things to do that are a lot more urgent. ......