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cleared out Atlantic transports in 1940, is that typical?   Message List  
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Re: WA Research

--- In aworldatwar@yahoogroups.com, donmoody@... wrote:
>
> Bruce Wallace wrote:
>
> > Should the Allies have put RPs into some other air project
> > in 1939 to have available to switch into a bad air range
> > research roll in 1939?
>
> About as much as any alliance faction, the Western Allies have research
> choices.
>
> I have no idea what the long term WA research plan was in your game.

I guess I should mention I am playing a solitaire game to get a feel for the
latest rules.

>
> But, in general, the WAs need to weather the storm (i.e. survive) before
> they can go on the offensive.

This may be a principle I neglected.
The Allies put 3 RPs into general atomic research in both of 1939 and 1940, and
1 RP into radar in each of those years, as well as the RPs into air production
and SAC production.

Maybe 2 RPs could have been put into another air category in 1939, and only 1
into general atomic research, and those 2 RPs switched to the air range roll.

> IMO, producing SAC is more of an offensive research allocation -
> especially in 1940 after a poor roll for Air Range in 1939.
> If I had rolled well for Air GR in 1939 (i.e. achieved an Air GR result in
> 1939 or am assured of achieving an Air GR result in 1940 on a roll of 1 or
> 2 with only 1 RP allocated), I might assign an RP to SAC production so as
> to take advantage of that Air GR result (and if I rolled the '1' and
> needed a '2' for the Air GR, I'd reassign that RP allocated to SAC
> production so as to get the Air GR result).
>
> But even so, I'd wait until all my other Air research projects (or at
> least Air Range) had been rolled before producing the SAC (same as I'd
> likely wait until Summer 1940 to produce any interceptors, in case I
> needed the RP assigned to Air production for reassignment).
>
> Similarly, in 1939, as the WAs (and most other Alliance factions), I
> either put 1 or 3 (or no) RPs in a GR category.
> Because reassignment of RPs can guarantee the equivalent of having rolled
> a '3' (but not higher), I generally only use an allocation of 2 RPs in a
> non-high tech project when a roll of '3' would achieve a result with 2 RPs
> allocated but a roll of '3' would not achieve a result if only 1 RP was
> allocated.

I do that same thing for projects I most want to get.
I now realize that getting air range should be a "must want" result by the end
of 1940.

>
>
> But like I said, there are a lot of options and choices for research.
> And hindsight is always 20/20.

As I mentioned to Eric T., this is a solitaire game, I am trying to learn all
the latest rules. I may go back and retroactively fix some things (don't even
know what or how much at this point!) to make this more playable for the Allies.

Thanks for your comments, wisdom, and advice!

Bruce Wallace

>
> DonMoody
>





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I am playing a game under the latest sub, transport, and ASW rules. The German subs and raiders cleared out the Atlantic SW box of transports in the winter...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
6:06 am

... Could you post the BotA information? ... Did the Allies reassign any RPs after a research roll of “1” or “2”? How bad were the raider engagement...
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Jul 11, 2009
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... Germany produced one sub card in Sp40. Germany got a torpedo result in Sp40. Allies got one ASW tech level in Su40. Ireland had a '7' diplomacy result in...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
7:32 am

... Oh, and the Allies put 2 RPs into General Air in 1939, and 1 in air range. A '1' was rolled for air range, no RPs to switch. In 1940, the Allies had 1 RP...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
7:41 am

... I am not sure why the WAs are producing SAC in 1940, let alone doing it in Spring. As your game shows, Air Range is an important project for the WAs. A...
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Yes, Air Range is important -- it affects the sub warfare modifier, and it affects the modifier for interception of raider groups. Should the Allies have put...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
7:58 am

... About as much as any alliance faction, the Western Allies have research choices. I have no idea what the long term WA research plan was in your game. But,...
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Jul 11, 2009
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... I guess I should mention I am playing a solitaire game to get a feel for the latest rules. ... This may be a principle I neglected. The Allies put 3 RPs...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
1:02 pm

I would describe your game as close to worst case scenario as possible. In Wi40, Britain perhaps should not have deployed transports in the Atlantic in order...
Eric Thobaben
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Jul 11, 2009
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... I am getting the idea that not getting an air range result by 1940 is almost disastrous all by itself. Add to that the combination of getting only one...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
12:48 pm

... No, not all by itself. But when your roll craps out you need to change you strategy going forward. Like, say, putting more thwan one RP in Air Range in...
Ed Schoenfeld
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Jul 11, 2009
4:57 pm

... I think Ed's math is off - he is forgetting the Western Allies begin with a result of "5" [+3] for Air Range research. ... First, a "No effect" result is...
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Jul 11, 2009
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... Ed, under the new rules, transports can not be produced until 1941. And there would never have been a chance to have build out any transports produced in...
Bruce Wallace
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Jul 11, 2009
5:40 pm

I agree that it is not typical. However, Britain will suffer in Fall and Winter 1940, precisely because the raiders may get out, and the German sub count goes...
Mike Crowe
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Jul 11, 2009
5:03 pm

That air range is really huge. In a recent game with Raf, as Allies he rolled a 6 in Fall 1939 and got the air range right away! That helped him a LOT! Not...
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