--- In arcusers@yahoogroups.com, "tswierkocki" <tswierkocki@y...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the review. I'm interested in hearing about the
> differences between the P and V. Bottom line, which kite do you
like
> better and why?
>
> -Tom


its got to be the venom, i love my p15 but its that and more. much
better turning, better pop for transitions and you dont have to be
riding so fast. im hoping that i will get the same botttom end on the
v13 as i have on the p15, its close now and usually lowers quite a
bit as you get used to a kite. much lighter bar pressure but still
loads of feeling so you know where the kite is. its suposed to be
better relaunch which is a bonus. and thats the comparisons with the
p15 v v13 the p18 v v19 is no contest

i think i will be selling my p15 and p9 soon and adding a v10 or 8

kev


>
> --- In arcusers@yahoogroups.com, "kiteboarderkev"
> <kiteboarderkev@a...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rider 75kgs 165lbs intermediate
> >
> > Board 132 flx
> >
> > Bar 50cm z4
> >
> >
> > I have been mainly flying a phantom 15 for the last 8 months so
> > this is what im comparing it to
> >
> >
> > V13
> >
> > Wind blowing 14-mph gradually picking up through the day to
about
> > 25/28 then ½ hour at 35 mph
> >
> > Set the kite up and set the internal strap(flight adjuster) fully
> > tight. found the new inflation zippers didn't fill as quick, the
> zip
> > isnt as long but it filled up ok and filled more than with the
> centre
> > zip
> > Never had too many problems with launching but put the lines in
the
> > launch assistant and found you don't have to rush to the bar,
> theres
> > no chance of lines wrapping so that's a plus
> > Launched the kite and found that with the lines in the launch
> > assistant that it dragged the tip over down wind a bit but
launched
> > ok
> > It flew straight to the side so must have been a lot fuller than
> when
> > I launch my p15- it usually sits there and you can see the top of
> the
> > kite fill up
> > I think the front pigtails may be a bit short because on full de-
> > power the rear lines are very slack so I will be loosing a bit of
> > power when fully powered
> > In flight its as fast as the p15 but turns a lot tighter and
seems
> to
> > hold its power in the turns
> > Its got a lot of grunt and I found myself bouncing on the water
> abit
> > butim sure I will get used to this
> > Bar pressure is nice- less than the p15 and I think this decieves
> you
> > into thinking you are a bit underpowered which I was thinking but
> > realised I was way upwind
> >
> > For jumps I used to send the p15 back fast from quite low but
cant
> > do this on the v as it just pulles you off your edge – you've got
> to
> > drift it up a bit then send it, I struggled a bit with my timing
> > redirecting that will take a few more sessions I think. Height
> about
> > the same, float a lot more
> >
> > Later in the day the wind picked up a lot for about ½ an hour so
I
> > was just crusing slow to hold the power with a few small jumps-
> > didn't dare send it hard
> > Ther was only 2 of us left on the water it had picked up that
much
> > and I later found when I came outit had picked up to 35mph but
it
> > never felt that high
> > You don't feel as powered as you are on these kites
> > Powerwise I don't think its quite as powerful as the p15 but its
a
> > lot more grunty, may be missing a couple of mph bottom end but
its
> > very close, a few more sesssions may change this veiw though
> >
> > V19
> >
> > Board 132 flx
> >
> > Bar 50cm z4
> >
> > Wind 12mph gradually picking up to about 20mph with small gusts
> >
> > Strap fully tight again
> >
> > I would say everything the same about the v19 but has even more
> float
> >
> > I tried it on my 50cm bar but would have been better on the 60cm
> when
> > redirecting, if your just crusing though the 50cm turns ok
> >
> > Yep I think peter lynn have cracked the low end on my p18 I used
> to
> > need 13/14mph on my 142 flx to stay up wind and it was hard work,
> > this was easy
> > Again very grunty- even more so than the 13 but this is
comparing
> to
> > the p15
> >
> > Pigtails may stand being 50mm longer, I will have to experiment a
> bit
> >
> > These are two cracking kites, ive been thinking what could they
do
> > now to improve them and I honestly cant think of anything, they
> have
> > got enough power and turn plenty fast enough, the only thing I
can
> > think of is give us more depower so we only need one kite.
> >
> > Anyone flown the 10 yet? How does it compare with the g10 for
wind
> > range? Think that may be next on the shopping list
> >
> >
> > kev