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#31 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Re: On evil and perception and a question.
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On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:27 AM, dracomicron wrote:

> I will keep my eye out for this young warrior Chrittian; we could
> certainly use more Guardians (though I have been considering
> changing that group's name to "Constables," what do you think?).

Constables seems like a police force, and that does not seem quite
right. It seems to me we are in we are in a sense politically
anarchists. The ruling force seems to be inconsequential, but we will
fight to uphold what we view as right. But as far as semantics, I am
quite awful.

tul

#30 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: On evil and perception and a question.
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I will keep my eye out for this young warrior Chrittian; we could
certainly use more Guardians (though I have been considering
changing that group's name to "Constables," what do you think?).

As for Zv and his journal, I will be sure to change the message of
the day to divulge this posting-place's location the next time I am
able.  That should resolve that issue.

Sincerely,

High Proctor Sesobael

--- In WoWPoorSages@yahoogroups.com, ironic_glass@m... wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2006, at 6:17 AM, dracomicron wrote:
>
> > I am curious as to who would say such a thing about the Sages,
and
> > would like to hear their reasoning.  Lord Harrier Tul, could you
> > point me in the correct direction to get some answers?
>
> This was misinterpretation of something written by a young warrior
by
> the name of Chrittian. When discussing various organizations of
folks
> in our world, he was quoted as saying:
>
> "I'm looking for a generally good-willed group, either along the
> lines of "Strength and Honor" types, or "Magically Mysterious,
but
> not evil" (Such as The Poor Sages of Lordareon)"
>
> And for some reason I read that he was looking for groups with
> "Strenght and Honor", and "Magically Mysterious", as opposed to
an
> evil on such as The Poor Sages of Lordareon. I was shocked by
this,
> but on further reading I saw how I misconstrued his words.
>
> The warrior Chrittian seems to be a fascinating young forsaken,
and
> after my comments, we spoke briefly in the world about the sages.
I
> mentioned that if I were walking the world today, I would try to
meet
> with him to discuss things in person. Perhaps if the High Proctor
is
> roaming Azeroth, he might wish to speak to Chrittian.
>
> Lord Harrier
> Tul
>
> ((ooc This was from the realm forum with the title "((OOC:
Seeking
> heavy - medium RP guild))".
> Chrittian has also  posted a journal of his stories along the line
of
> Zv. It appears I was forum trolling more than I should have
yesterday
>
> Speaking of which, Zv, perhaps we could convince Zv to post his
> journal here.... not sure if he has logged on to here yet ))
>
> >
> > On the whole, I see many Forsaken as innately amoral but
> > intellectually interested in righteousness.  We generally do not
> > have the warm fleshy feelings that some warmbloods associate with
> > goodness... But the Sages look beyond biological capability into
the
> > realm of greater insight.
> >
> > The warlocks in the service of the Poor Sages understand, like
most
> > warlocks and shadow priests, that control of so-called dark magic
> > and the infernal is crucial to ending the threat of the Burning
> > Legion in our world.
> >
> > I would rather not we be viewed as evil, but if that is to be our
> > lot, then so be it.  It does not change the mission of the Poor
> > Sages one bit.
> >
> > High Proctor Sesobael
>
> (( it is late, but what is good and what is evil is quite
> interesting. I would comment on your writing above, but I think I
> must get going ))
>

#29 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: On evil and perception and a question.
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On Jan 27, 2006, at 6:17 AM, dracomicron wrote:

> I am curious as to who would say such a thing about the Sages, and
> would like to hear their reasoning.  Lord Harrier Tul, could you
> point me in the correct direction to get some answers?

This was misinterpretation of something written by a young warrior by
the name of Chrittian. When discussing various organizations of folks
in our world, he was quoted as saying:

"I'm looking for a generally good-willed group, either along the
lines of "Strength and Honor" types, or "Magically Mysterious, but
not evil" (Such as The Poor Sages of Lordareon)"

And for some reason I read that he was looking for groups with
"Strenght and Honor", and "Magically Mysterious", as opposed to an
evil on such as The Poor Sages of Lordareon. I was shocked by this,
but on further reading I saw how I misconstrued his words.

The warrior Chrittian seems to be a fascinating young forsaken, and
after my comments, we spoke briefly in the world about the sages. I
mentioned that if I were walking the world today, I would try to meet
with him to discuss things in person. Perhaps if the High Proctor is
roaming Azeroth, he might wish to speak to Chrittian.

Lord Harrier
Tul

((ooc This was from the realm forum with the title "((OOC: Seeking
heavy - medium RP guild))".
Chrittian has also  posted a journal of his stories along the line of
Zv. It appears I was forum trolling more than I should have yesterday

Speaking of which, Zv, perhaps we could convince Zv to post his
journal here.... not sure if he has logged on to here yet ))

>
> On the whole, I see many Forsaken as innately amoral but
> intellectually interested in righteousness.  We generally do not
> have the warm fleshy feelings that some warmbloods associate with
> goodness... But the Sages look beyond biological capability into the
> realm of greater insight.
>
> The warlocks in the service of the Poor Sages understand, like most
> warlocks and shadow priests, that control of so-called dark magic
> and the infernal is crucial to ending the threat of the Burning
> Legion in our world.
>
> I would rather not we be viewed as evil, but if that is to be our
> lot, then so be it.  It does not change the mission of the Poor
> Sages one bit.
>
> High Proctor Sesobael

(( it is late, but what is good and what is evil is quite
interesting. I would comment on your writing above, but I think I
must get going ))

#28 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: On evil and perception and a question.
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I am curious as to who would say such a thing about the Sages, and
would like to hear their reasoning.  Lord Harrier Tul, could you
point me in the correct direction to get some answers?

On the whole, I see many Forsaken as innately amoral but
intellectually interested in righteousness.  We generally do not
have the warm fleshy feelings that some warmbloods associate with
goodness... But the Sages look beyond biological capability into the
realm of greater insight.

The warlocks in the service of the Poor Sages understand, like most
warlocks and shadow priests, that control of so-called dark magic
and the infernal is crucial to ending the threat of the Burning
Legion in our world.

I would rather not we be viewed as evil, but if that is to be our
lot, then so be it.  It does not change the mission of the Poor
Sages one bit.

High Proctor Sesobael


--- In WoWPoorSages@yahoogroups.com, ironic_glass@m... wrote:
>
> I was browsing the official realm web site, and someone mentioned
we
> sages as being an evil guild. I was shocked. Is our mission evil?
Do
> we present ourselves as evil? I see nothing of the sort.
>
> Certainly there are undead among us (looks in the mirror), and we
> have our share of warlocks, but it does not strike me that we are
in
> the slightest bit evil. In fact, I would say the leanings is the
> opposite and is quite good. The views of some I have talked to
have a
> twist, but I see the intent behind the words to be good, generous
and
> true.
>
> Am I deluded?
>
> Tul
>

#27 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:37 am
Subject: Re: On evil and perception and a question.
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I would like to blame my reading comprehension on the party last
night...

For future reference, not evil does not mean evil. The not was thrown
in there just to confuse me, and I am sure that that was done out of
spite. Still, the idea of what is evil is an interesting subject, but
for another day I expect.

Tul


On Jan 26, 2006, at 4:15 PM, ironic_glass@... wrote:

> I was browsing the official realm web site, and someone mentioned we
> sages as being an evil guild. I was shocked. Is our mission evil? Do
> we present ourselves as evil? I see nothing of the sort.
>
> Certainly there are undead among us (looks in the mirror), and we
> have our share of warlocks, but it does not strike me that we are in
> the slightest bit evil. In fact, I would say the leanings is the
> opposite and is quite good. The views of some I have talked to have a
> twist, but I see the intent behind the words to be good, generous and
> true.
>
> Am I deluded?
>
> Tul

#26 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:15 am
Subject: On evil and perception and a question.
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I was browsing the official realm web site, and someone mentioned we
sages as being an evil guild. I was shocked. Is our mission evil? Do
we present ourselves as evil? I see nothing of the sort.

Certainly there are undead among us (looks in the mirror), and we
have our share of warlocks, but it does not strike me that we are in
the slightest bit evil. In fact, I would say the leanings is the
opposite and is quite good. The views of some I have talked to have a
twist, but I see the intent behind the words to be good, generous and
true.

Am I deluded?

Tul

#25 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Profile: Verzhanzi
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Dear Verzhanzi,

Thank you for posting your information.  This breakdown allows me to
understand where to place initiates.  Indeed, I believe your skills
will be of most use within the Harvesters.

As a Harvester, of course your duties will be to provide raw
materials for our other members as they continue their studies.  Of
course, this is not a one-way road, and we will share the fruits of
our labors with you.  I am pursuing the potential of finding an
enchantment that improves herbalism currently, for example.

Do well, and you will find promotion to High Reaper or Master
Treasurer fairly quick.  Perhaps the latter role would suit your
more observational tendencies.

Sincerely,

High Proctor Sesobael

--- In WoWPoorSages@yahoogroups.com, "Nik" <nlandauer@g...> wrote:
>
> Proctor,
>
> Pursuant to your request to new members, I am providing my relevant
> personal information.
>
> . Name: Verzhanzi
> . (( Class/Level: mage 13 ))
> . Specialties: As my memories begin to return, I find myself
> unsurprised by my professional selections. I am an herbalist and
skinner.
> . Interest: At present, I am merely trying to collect and collate
> observations, to discover more about this world I have so recently
> awakened to, and about myself. To that end, I would very likely be
> best suited as a member of the Harvesters. Once more of my lost
memory
> has returned, I may be interested in a position in the Proctors.
>
> My thanks for the opportunity to continue to serve Lordaeron.
>
> ~ Verzhanzi
>

#24 From: Nik Landauer <nlandauer@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Profile: Verzhanzi
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Tul,

Late in the party last night, Sesobael and I found time to speak, and he did invite me into your ranks.

I must admit that I am significantly more articulate in written form than in person, though. I get impatient with my newly weak vocalization capability, and sometimes cannot phrase myself correctly. I do look forward to meeting you, though.

(( This is for IC reasons, not OOC; I have no problems with speed-typing RP during play, as I'm a tech writer professionally. ))

~ Verzhanzi

#23 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: Profile: Verzhanzi
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On Jan 26, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Nik Landauer wrote:

> Tul,
>
> My thanks for your comments.
>
> I do not feel there even *can* be an end to collecting and
> collating observations. This is a task I recall performing through
> as much of my adult mortal life as I can remember, on behalf of the
> Kirin Tor of Dalaran, and those memories seem tinted with a
> pleasure of discovery. It is somewhat gratifying to discover that I
> can continue to do so on behalf of those like me, mostly abandoned
> by our former brethren, and taken in as allies by our former enemies.
>
> To further complicate matters, even were we, as a race, or even
> considering 'we' to represent all of the Alliance and Horde races
> as a whole, to complete the task of collecting and collating
> observations, our task would be less than half complete; we would
> then face the even more daunting task of re-collecting and re-
> collating confirmations of those observations, and recording the
> changes since the times the observations were made.
>
> While beneficial in its expansion of knowledge for all, this
> selfsame tendency was the impetus behind the fall of the Kirin Tor
> and Dalaran. Had the politicians in the Six and Twelve been more
> circumspect in confirmation, they would have discovered, perhaps
> even in time, the treachery that awaited them.
>
> Alas, I seem to have falled into a pattern of lecture. My
> apologies. Be well.
>
> ~ Verzhanzi


Oh Verzhanzi, if you are able to join our ranks, I hope we will hear
many more such lectures. Thank you for the edification.

Tul

#22 From: Nik Landauer <nlandauer@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Profile: Verzhanzi
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Tul,

My thanks for your comments.

I do not feel there even *can* be an end to collecting and collating observations. This is a task I recall performing through as much of my adult mortal life as I can remember, on behalf of the Kirin Tor of Dalaran, and those memories seem tinted with a pleasure of discovery. It is somewhat gratifying to discover that I can continue to do so on behalf of those like me, mostly abandoned by our former brethren, and taken in as allies by our former enemies.

To further complicate matters, even were we, as a race, or even considering 'we' to represent all of the Alliance and Horde races as a whole, to complete the task of collecting and collating observations, our task would be less than half complete; we would then face the even more daunting task of re-collecting and re-collating confirmations of those observations, and recording the changes since the times the observations were made.

While beneficial in its expansion of knowledge for all, this selfsame tendency was the impetus behind the fall of the Kirin Tor and Dalaran. Had the politicians in the Six and Twelve been more circumspect in confirmation, they would have discovered, perhaps even in time, the treachery that awaited them.

Alas, I seem to have falled into a pattern of lecture. My apologies. Be well.

~ Verzhanzi


#21 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: Profile: Verzhanzi
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Verzhanzi

First of all, I would like to wish you well on the state of one's mind.
Though the mind is but a tool, if it is not functioning properly,
much of ones being is in turmoil. As to your desire to collect and
collate observations, I empathize, although I come to think that I
will never reach the end of such.

I look forward to greeting you in the world, although I never am
certain when i shall be about.

Tul


On Jan 26, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Nik wrote:

> Proctor,
>
> Pursuant to your request to new members, I am providing my relevant
> personal information.
>
> . Name: Verzhanzi
> . (( Class/Level: mage 13 ))
> . Specialties: As my memories begin to return, I find myself
> unsurprised by my professional selections. I am an herbalist and
> skinner.
> . Interest: At present, I am merely trying to collect and collate
> observations, to discover more about this world I have so recently
> awakened to, and about myself. To that end, I would very likely be
> best suited as a member of the Harvesters. Once more of my lost memory
> has returned, I may be interested in a position in the Proctors.
>
> My thanks for the opportunity to continue to serve Lordaeron.
>
> ~ Verzhanzi

#20 From: "Nik" <nlandauer@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:20 pm
Subject: Profile: Verzhanzi
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Proctor,

Pursuant to your request to new members, I am providing my relevant
personal information.

. Name: Verzhanzi
. (( Class/Level: mage 13 ))
. Specialties: As my memories begin to return, I find myself
unsurprised by my professional selections. I am an herbalist and skinner.
. Interest: At present, I am merely trying to collect and collate
observations, to discover more about this world I have so recently
awakened to, and about myself. To that end, I would very likely be
best suited as a member of the Harvesters. Once more of my lost memory
has returned, I may be interested in a position in the Proctors.

My thanks for the opportunity to continue to serve Lordaeron.

~ Verzhanzi

#19 From: "tulunspoken" <ironic_glass@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:31 pm
Subject: OOC: Oh the irony
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I just noticed the sponsors listed at the bottom of our main page. All three are
gold sellers.

Pardon for the ooc message, but the irony I thought was quite delicious.

tull

#18 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:10 am
Subject: Regarding odd fish recipes
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High Proctor,

You should not worry about those fish recipes, as I have procured
one. I am afraid I was robbed at the auction house, but at least that
should make me much more suitable for the order.

As to the alcohol, I will need to leave that for others. While the
presence of alcohol is not why I will not be at the party, I can
think of better things to be around drunk folks eating tainted fish,
smelling quite questionable. Though on further thought, I guess the
alcohol may help deal tolerating those issues.

The poor priest Tul

#16 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: Help the Party Effort
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Friend Tul,

We are not called the Poor Sages for nothing.  I myself would be
penniless but for a donation made by Empathica of the Coffin Hunters.

If you are able to gather some alcoholic beverages, or find a still
and mix up some yourself, please package them carefully and send
them to me through the mail.  I will not be available tonight, as
I'm attending the Conference on the Vampiric Transference Theory all
evening.

Thank you again, friend Tul.

Sincerely,

High Proctor Sesobael

--- In WoWPoorSages@yahoogroups.com, ironic_glass@m... wrote:
>
> Sesobael,
>
> What I have is yours.
> I am a bit poor at the moment, but if 20 gold or so is of help,
then
> let me know.
>
> Tul
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2006, at 6:17 AM, dracomicron wrote:
>
> > Dear Sages,
> >
> > I spent much of last eve fishing and hunting dig rats for my
famous
> > dig rat stew, but we are still short one very important
ingredient
> > for the party on Wednesday night: liquid refreshment.
> >
> > I am given to understand that there may be quite a number of
orcs in
> > attendance.  I am also given to understand that orcs like their
> > liquors.  I propose that we accomidate our friends and bring as
many
> > stout liquors to the event as possible.  Any help that can be
given
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > Also, I managed to catch a good number of the rare Deviate fish
last
> > night; I am told they make excellent party favors.  I wanted to
get
> > the recipe for Savory Deviate Delight, but sadly to purchase
such a
> > thing at the auction house is beyond the means of even a
fiscally-
> > minded Poor Sage.  If anyone knows this recipe, or has access to
it,
> > let me know.
> >
> > Travel safely, especially around Tarren Mill.  There was another
> > attack last night, led by quite a number of sixtieth-seasoned
> > veterans.  Still I am uncertain of what they believe they will
> > accomplish there.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > High Proctor Sesobael
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#15 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: Help the Party Effort
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Sesobael, 

What I have is yours. 
I am a bit poor at the moment, but if 20 gold or so is of help, then let me know. 

Tul


On Jan 24, 2006, at 6:17 AM, dracomicron wrote:

Dear Sages,

I spent much of last eve fishing and hunting dig rats for my famous
dig rat stew, but we are still short one very important ingredient
for the party on Wednesday night: liquid refreshment.

I am given to understand that there may be quite a number of orcs in
attendance.  I am also given to understand that orcs like their
liquors.  I propose that we accomidate our friends and bring as many
stout liquors to the event as possible.  Any help that can be given
would be appreciated.

Also, I managed to catch a good number of the rare Deviate fish last
night; I am told they make excellent party favors.  I wanted to get
the recipe for Savory Deviate Delight, but sadly to purchase such a
thing at the auction house is beyond the means of even a fiscally-
minded Poor Sage.  If anyone knows this recipe, or has access to it,
let me know.

Travel safely, especially around Tarren Mill.  There was another
attack last night, led by quite a number of sixtieth-seasoned
veterans.  Still I am uncertain of what they believe they will
accomplish there.

Sincerely,

High Proctor Sesobael





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#14 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:17 pm
Subject: Help the Party Effort
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Dear Sages,

I spent much of last eve fishing and hunting dig rats for my famous
dig rat stew, but we are still short one very important ingredient
for the party on Wednesday night: liquid refreshment.

I am given to understand that there may be quite a number of orcs in
attendance.  I am also given to understand that orcs like their
liquors.  I propose that we accomidate our friends and bring as many
stout liquors to the event as possible.  Any help that can be given
would be appreciated.

Also, I managed to catch a good number of the rare Deviate fish last
night; I am told they make excellent party favors.  I wanted to get
the recipe for Savory Deviate Delight, but sadly to purchase such a
thing at the auction house is beyond the means of even a fiscally-
minded Poor Sage.  If anyone knows this recipe, or has access to it,
let me know.

Travel safely, especially around Tarren Mill.  There was another
attack last night, led by quite a number of sixtieth-seasoned
veterans.  Still I am uncertain of what they believe they will
accomplish there.

Sincerely,

High Proctor Sesobael

#13 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: Toast to the Poor Sages! Wednesday, 1/25, 7:30 pm Server Time
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Priest Tul,

By no means is this event manditory.  We love to see you when you are
around, but understand that you have many important things to take
care of in your life.

May the Dark Lady watch over you.

High Proctor Sesobael

--- In WoWPoorSages@yahoogroups.com, ironic_glass@m... wrote:

> I fear that I will not be able to make this.
> Unfortunately i will rarely be able to do so. If I am around when
an
> event happens, I will gladly be there, but I cannot schedule my
time
> awake. I feel it is my duty to support the sages when I am able,
but
> alas in these issues I cannot.
>
> Tul
>

#12 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: Dear Sirs and Madams
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Yoji

It is good to hear of you joining us, though myself, I feel wonder if
I am truly us, or something rather separate. Still, if I am included
in the group called us, then let me grant a welcome from us, or we or
some such designation.

tul the confused

(( ooc personally I try not to join ooc channels, so please whisper
me if needed out of character ))

#11 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:02 pm
Subject: Scribbles from the priest Tul
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Dear sages

A few days ago I was allowed to join your company, but I fear I gave
but a feeble introduction. My resume is sorely out of date, and my
references are not quite speaking yet. When I spoke to the High
Proctor Sesobael, I am afraid I was in a melancholy mood, though he
humored me by letting me in despite this. With this in mind, I
thought it best to try to let you know who I am, much to your boredom
I am sure.

I am a priest of most humble ambitions, though my age is on the elder
side. Due to this obscene lack of drive, I have eschewed most calls
to join the ranks of others. I was attracted by the High Proctor's
words, though I am not sure why. I am quite ignorant of our world. I
fear even when people speak to me, my ears glass over.

For example the other day Tauren in Thunderbluff was humoring me by
asking for some seeds from the crater down south, and I gave them. I
paid little attention why he wanted such things, be it for evil or
good made little matter. The seeds were neither good nor bad, while
he promised me a thing i think if I did so, I did not pay attention.
An action was asked of me, and so I figured why not. Actions must
happen, let us do so and observe. It makes little difference.

I am not a sage, a sage is wise, and I am anything but. I am a mind
that sits and watches this world through this skull and limbs. I am
interested in watching people's words, their futile ambitions, their
angst and their torment.

Perhaps it is best to think of me as an Observer.

the priest Tul

(( ooc
Tul is an undead shadow priest of 49 seasons.
I am an alchemist/herbalist closing to my peak of training.
I am a casual player with sporadic times.
I will rarely go into dungeons as I dislike playing when I cannot
immediately leave, and I will not allow the game to intrude into my
life. Even though I approach the proper age and I am a priest, I will
not be involved in end game, though smaller dungeons it is possible I
may occasionally enter.
What I have, other are welcome to. I have decided that the race after
the pretty things in this games is a fools errand.

I have found due to my sporadic playing times, continuity is lacking
and I do do well with long story lines, especially scripted. I enjoy
spontaneous repartee. I hope my character is amendable to the other
sages.

tul

))

#10 From: ironic_glass@...
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: Toast to the Poor Sages! Wednesday, 1/25, 7:30 pm Server Time
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On Jan 23, 2006, at 6:55 AM, dracomicron wrote:

> The Poor Sages of Lordaeron have finally recieved their charter, and
> begun to recruit.  Now is the time to celebrate the dawning of a new
> age... hopefully one of sanity and peace in our beloved homeland of
> Lordaeron.
>
> This Wednesday, 1/25, we will be gathering the Poor Sages, thier
> friends, and prospective members at the Gallows End tavern in Brill
> for an evening of good times and comraderie.  We will begin the
> festivities at half past seven bells by the old town hall clock
> ((That's 7:30 pm server time)).

I fear that I will not be able to make this.
Unfortunately i will rarely be able to do so. If I am around when an
event happens, I will gladly be there, but I cannot schedule my time
awake. I feel it is my duty to support the sages when I am able, but
alas in these issues I cannot.

Tul

#9 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:55 pm
Subject: Toast to the Poor Sages! Wednesday, 1/25, 7:30 pm Server Time
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The Poor Sages of Lordaeron have finally recieved their charter, and
begun to recruit.  Now is the time to celebrate the dawning of a new
age... hopefully one of sanity and peace in our beloved homeland of
Lordaeron.

This Wednesday, 1/25, we will be gathering the Poor Sages, thier
friends, and prospective members at the Gallows End tavern in Brill
for an evening of good times and comraderie.  We will begin the
festivities at half past seven bells by the old town hall clock
((That's 7:30 pm server time)).

Though I do not personally crave food or drink much anymore, I am
given to understand that many do, and will be buying comestibles for
everybody in attendance, thanks to a donation made by Guildmaster
Empathica of the Coffin Hunters.  Those looking for specialized eats
should bring their own

I hope for a substantial turnout, and a joyful time.  Alliance: I
would invite your more diplomatic members, but I do not think that
the guards will allow you into the tavern.  Any who gather outside
town under a banner of peace, however, are welcome to the feast as
well.

Sincerely,

High Proctor Sesobael of the Order of the Poor Sages of Lordaeron

#8 From: "cursedyoji" <cursedyoji@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: Dear Sirs and Madams
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((Nope they are both correct.))

Long live the Poor Sages and may our knowlage travel far and wide
across the land!

Greatfully yours,

Yoji

#7 From: "cursedyoji" <cursedyoji@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:05 pm
Subject: Dear Sirs and Madams
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First let me wish you all a good day.

I am new to your ranks and humbly thank you for taking me under your
patronage.  Do pardon my spelling, I seem to have lost that ability
when I was struck with the Plague.

((I also wish to tell you that there have been two channels created
for the guild, The first being an OOC channel called PoorSagesOOC, to
join this you simply type /join PoorSagesOOC  , the second is
friendsofpoorsages, a place where those who are not in the guild or
have left the guild for reasons beyond their control may come to keep
in contact with the guild.  I do hope that you all join and incourage
your friends to join the friends channel.  I might have spelled them
wrong, in what is capitalized and what is not... if so I will fix
this issue as soon as possible.))

I look forward to meeting you all and to learn and to share what
little knowlage I have with you all.

Greatfully yours,
Yoji

#6 From: "iyathehunter" <iyathehunter@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:56 pm
Subject: I's thank ya for takin' in dis one.
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Poor Sages,

I's be young ands don'ts have much to offer as the ways of knowlage,
buts I's be willin' ta learns and ta be's as much help as I's can.

When I's be findin' I's some good writin' paper I's be settin' I's
story for ya so's ya be better ta understands me, and I's hope ta hear
your stories as well.

Spirits be with ya.

Iya

#5 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:48 pm
Subject: Recruiting guidelines
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As a new guild, we must seek out new members.  This is a given, if
we want to survive and thrive.

What we don't want to do, however, is recruit indiscriminately.  We
must spend time analyzing each applicant, and make sure that they
are truly intereated in the ideals of the Poor Sages before we
extend an invitation.  It is quality, not quantity, that we're
looking for.

We will not discriminate based on race, gender, career path, or
profession, though, for now, we must of course only recruit those
who understand orcish and/or gutterspeak.

Titled members: it is up to you to recruit your teams of underlings
for the purposes of doing your job well.  See me for potential jobs
that need to be filled.

High Proctor Sesobael

((OOC: Make sure everybody joining the guild understands that we're
a heavy RP guild that is not tunnel-visioned on dungeons, loot, or
endgame raids.  Other than that, bring your friends!))

#4 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Dean of Students
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Lady Aliserie,

I see no reason not to name you Dean of Students.  I will update the
appropriate paperwork when I get a chance.

High Proctor Sesobael


--- In WoWPoorSages@yahoogroups.com, "aliserierune"
<aliserierune@y...> wrote:
>
> Dear Proctor Sesobael
>
>     I would like to be considered for the Dean of Students. I look
> forward to speaking to you on this.
>
>                                      Lady Aliserie Runetouch
>                                     The Wytch of Lordaeron
>

#3 From: "aliserierune" <aliserierune@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:14 pm
Subject: Dean of Students
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Dear Proctor Sesobael

     I would like to be considered for the Dean of Students. I look
forward to speaking to you on this.

                                      Lady Aliserie Runetouch
                                     The Wytch of Lordaeron

#2 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:16 pm
Subject: OOC: Order protocol and behavioral guidelines
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Chances are, if you're interested in the Poor Sages, you're not a
twinked out powergamer who only lives to denegrate others to improve
their own ego, but I thought it prudent to establish some protocol
and a code of conduct for members of the Order.

OOC Code of Conduct

1. Be an example of good roleplaying to other players.  When
speaking in /say or /yell, always be in character.  Try to stay IC
in other situations as well, but if you need to speak OOC, then use
((double parenthesis)).

2. Conduct yourself honorably.  It hardly needs to be said, but
don't "scam" or try to cheat other players.  If you have alts, don't
twink them out... it's okay to send your alternates stuff , but try
to keep reasonable roleplaying reasons for such (if they're also
fellow guildmembers, that's a pretty good reason, though I'd like it
even more if you did the whole thing IC, giving the item to another
player and having them "deliver" it to your alt later), and NEVER,
when in a party, roll "need" on something that you will only use
with your alternate characters.

3. Respect other players.  This goes with the above two items, but
bears it's own entry.  The entire point of the Poor Sages is to
spread civility into a realm that is often sadly lacking it.  This
includes the Alliance... Even if they're raiding the heck out of
Brill, don't stoop to griefing.  If I can finagle some way of doing
it, I think it would be neat to have an Alliance-side chapter of the
Poor Sages, or at least an allied/respected Alliance guild.

4. It's okay to camp their corpse if they're attacking your city.
Hey, they brought the lightning, they'll have to deal with the
thunder.  The last thing we need is some powerful mage respawning
and blowing away youngling quest NPCs.  Camping somebody's corpse in
other situations is not tactful, however.  Don't do it.  If they
flee, let them go as long as they aren't heading to another area we
protect to cause trouble.  Pursuing enemies from a defensive
location into the field is a recipe for disaster anyway.

5. Remember that it's just a game.  We're all playing to have fun,
so don't sweat the jerks or setbacks.  Report heinous abuses or
childish behavior, and names that violate the naming policy if you
feel like it, but do it quietly.  Don't get into heated arguments.
We want a reputation for being reasonable, both in and out of
character.

I'll post an IC list of guild duties and protocol next.

#1 From: "dracomicron" <dracomicron@...>
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:33 pm
Subject: Ranks and Titles within the Poor Sages
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PROCTORS

High Proctor - This is the head of the guild.  Also... it's me.  For
now.

Master Librarian - this is the Proctor in charge of upkeep on our
books of lore, and organizing their collection with the Harvesters,
particularly the Lore Hunter.

Dean of Students - The Dean is the Proctor of contact with all those
who are learning from the Poor Sages.  Lower-ranking members of the
guild will typically report to the Dean or the High Proctor.

Lord Ambassador - The Lord Ambassador is the Proctor who handles
relations with governments, the army, other guilds and, if
necessary, the Alliance.

GUARDIANS

High Warden of Lordaeron - The member of the order responsable for
the security of the roads from Deathknell, Tristifal Glades,
Sephulcre, Tarren Mill, and finally Hammerfall.  The duties will
generally be distributed among the High Warden's subordinates
(Warden of Brill, Warden of Silverpine, etc).

Master-at-Arms - The members of the Order of the Poor Sages of
Lordaeron must often travel out of their homeland into the rest of
Azeroth.  The Master-at-Arms is responsible for making sure that
those who need a sturdy shoulder to lend assistance.

Lord Harrier - Sometimes diplomacy fails and a threat develops that
must be sought out and taken care of.  The Lord Harrier defends the
Poor Sages by proactively removing these threats.  This is not carte
blanche to start trouble with the Alliance!

HARVESTERS

High Reaper - The High Reaper is the Harvester in charge of
organizing the aquisition of materials for the Sages' research.  The
Reaper and his or her underlings will seek out herbs, skins, ores,
minor trinkets for disenchanting, and other items to make sure that
the Sages are well-stocked.

Master Treasurer - Though the Poor Sages are not intended to be a
profitable order, money will be necessary for our projects, and for
the purposes of charity when such becomes necessary (a fund for the
victims of the Scarlet Crusade may be in order).  The Master
Treasurer will handle the Order's money and organize the selling of
unneeded items.

Lore Hunter - The Lore Hunter and his or her subordinates are
charged with seeking out tomes of knowledge and forgotten codexes.
More importantly, they need to educate themselves as to the
wherabouts of the items and books important to the various callings,
to facilitate class advancement of our members.

I believe that this list of founding members will be able to handle
most all of the challenges presented to a new guild.  New
subordinate positions will be distributed as they become necessary.

Those interested in a position should contact me here or through the
mail.

Sincerely,

Proctor Sesobael

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